Strip Poker (old interest thread - general)

[Xillen]

This game idea has been split up into two new threads. If you're interested in either or both games, please reply in those threads. I'm merely keeping this open to give people a chance to speak and give their opinion about the way I dealt with the idea.

The competitive game can be found here: https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=17594;all
The casual game can be found here: https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=17606;all

Note. While neither game ever started, the competitive game was retried at a later date: https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=34030;all





The idea is to play an actual game of poker between fictional characters. One participant would be the dealer, and keep check of the cards in the game, PMing the cards drawn to the actual players. Players would actually have to go through tbe betting, so they would be in control of winning or losing (to some degree, of course).

Of course, to make stuff interesting, all players are restricted to a limited amount of clothes. When someone loses his or her credits, the winning player must suggest them a dare. That player either has to perform the dare, or pay an article of clothing to remain in the game. Players that are already naked have to perform the dare or be out of the game. Various toys would be available to be used in such dares.

The reason as to why people are playing this game could vary. It could be an evening with close friends, or some casino-like game for a small jackpot.

An option would be to make it partnered poker (all players form groups of 2), where the partners can decide who takes the dare (if it only applies to one player). This way, if one of the partners is temporary gone, the other partner could still continue betting/raising/folding. Likewise, the Dealer player could group up with an active partner and be included in the stripping and daring.

Also, the game's open for debate. Poker (either Draw Poker or Texas Holdem) could work, but so could Black Jack, or Liar's Dice.

[TanaSilver]

Hello, Xillen. I'm still reeling from the questions you asked in the Introductions!

This sounds like a cool concept, and I would be interested in jumping aboard. Since you're fishing for ideas, I would go for 5-card draw, in perhaps an upscale setting. Like, maybe this is a special, very private back room of a Vegas casino. The players would be rich and beautiful, but then could find themselves in a compromising situation.

However it pans out, count me in!

[Sherona]

Could be an elite club....you have to be VERY rich or know someone VERY special to be invited...

[Kathadon]

As an avid texas hold'em player I am so interested in this, Xillen.

[Xillen]

Cool, interest! :)

What do you think about the possible partner matchup?

The downside about Texas is that there are so many rounds of betting, though of course you skip the draw phase.

[Ket]

Mmm, poker!  Made even better by the chance for clothes to come off.

I'd like a chance at playing Xillen, if you don't mind.

I think draw might be easier than hold 'em, though taking all the drawing and betting rounds out of hold 'em could work.

[Sherona]

Part of the fun is the actual game though. Not just about the sexytime posts ;) Atleast I would think so.

[Ket]

I agree Sherona, I think seeing reactions to how the hands play out would be quite fun, regardless of whether or not clothes come off.

[Sherona]

I agree Sherona, I think seeing reactions to how the hands play out would be quite fun, regardless of whether or not clothes come off.

*grins* What I meant, and I dont think it came out right, is that removing drawing and elements of the game itself might detract from the story :)

[Allister]

I would be willing to play I just don't know how to play the game itself, so if all possible someone willing to send rules and what not threw a pm would be cool :)

[Ket]

*grins* What I meant, and I dont think it came out right, is that removing drawing and elements of the game itself might detract from the story :)

Ah, gotcha...
The thing is though, with texas hold 'em there are so many rounds of drawing and betting that with a large group of people it could take days just to get through one round of betting....

[Xillen]

Sherona, of course. In no way do I want to totally remove that.

However, some games take much more rounds of betting and calling than other games, which would raise the duration of the game drastically.

Texas Holdem has 4 rounds of betting.

Drawpoker has a round of betting, a round of drawing and another round of betting. It actually doesn't differ that mutch.

[Jeramiahh]

Mm, this does sound fun. While I'm a fan of Texas Hold 'Em myself, I do have to agree it would take a lot longer to get through 4 rounds of betting as opposed to two, even with the draw round (players could easily PM their draw bids early, instead of having to wait for the dealer to ask). But I'd be interested in playing... this sounds like an interesting diversion.

[Xillen]

Well, if we agree on not expecting five paragraphs of text when someone is just raising or folding (though I do expect a little more than just "I raise" or "I fold", then we could still pass through the betting rounds on a reasonable pace.

Of course I'm not assuming anyone waiting for the dealer when it's not time to reveal new cards. If the person in front of you made a bit, you're up next to post. Folding also can be done prematurely if someone put up a high raise which you're not gonna call.

[Xillen]

I would be willing to play I just don't know how to play the game itself, so if all possible someone willing to send rules and what not threw a pm would be cool :)

Nothing personal, but I think such a game would work better with people that actually have at least enough interest in the games themselves to have learned them somewhere during their life. Also, by explaining the game to you, you would be completely unaware of the tactics. This game is not exactly desperate for players, so I doubt it's required to strain ourselves to get everyone in on the game.

I'm thinking about keeping the game open for roughly 24 hours, so we don't penalize anyone on timezones, and then discuss how many and who we take into the game (though we always have the option to split the game over two "tables", bringing them together when around half of the players decided to bail out).

For the nature of this game, I think it's recommended NOT to look at the O/O's of the other players, and instead just pick some dares that interest you. People never ever have to perform the dare. They can buy out by dropping an article of clothing, or quit the poker game if they happened to be naked already (perhaps withdraw to the lounge couch, where they're still available for dares, though some people might want to leave the RP entirely once they're out of the game). If we'd always be considerate of each other's O/O's then there'd be no stripping or surrendering.

Of course we could have a few barred topics, such as scat, watersports, and anything that causes injuries.

There's also the thing about the dealer, which has a few possible solutions:

- The dealer goes round, meaning another player is the dealer every round. The current dealer would sit out the round, as (s)he's aware of the other players' cards. Disadvantage: Not everyone might be interested in keeping track of the required information.

- The dealer does not participate in the game, but can be incorporated into certain dares. This was part of the original idea, where all the participants were ladies, and only the dealer was a guy, basically a tool that the ladies could use on each other. During prediscussion, this idea was dropped to be more acceptable to both genders, making this idea less workable.

- All players play in couples, meaning they're allowed a combined amount of clothing (how this number is divided is up to the players themselves) and when given a dare, they can pick who performs the dare (unless the dare specifies interaction between the both of them), to prevent unwanted MM or FF material. Cards are dealt per couple, with the exception of a single couple where one player is the dealer, and the other player is the only player actually doing the betting/raising/folding.

- We use a pokerroom or a chatbot to play out the rounds. Would require everyone to be online at the same time. Doesn't seem very feasable, and would also rush the betting rounds.

[Allister]

Oh ok got it sorry.

[Xillen]

Sorry about it, and I hope you don't take it personal.

I normally don't have any objection against helping people explain the rules, as I have various players in my D&D games that never played it before. It just didn't seem appropaite here.

Also, there's no need to be sorry. I guess I should've included that in the first post.

Apologies, Xillen.

[Hollin]

I would definitely have an interest in seeing where this goes.  :)

[The Great Triangle]

If this game's still open I'd be willing to join.  (Although if I'd found it earlier I would have campigned for Lair's Dice.)

[Haibane]

I'm interested though poker is quite an intense game needing skills and a certain level of competent role-playing all of its own. On top of that you're asking for a further layer of RP with the social/sexual side. I am keen to play in such games but the poker format puts me off, if a less intense game environment could be used I'd be more eager to ask for a place. Perhaps a much less intense and formal setting, something at a private party perhaps.

[GrinningHound]

I'd like to play.  I am rather interested in card games, I know the rules and have a concept of strategy, I'm just bad at it because I don't play too often.

That's okay though, I don't mind losing. ;D

I hope this is still open, it sounds fun.

Oh, and I didn't express interest earlier just because I don't look in the Players Wanted often, so I only saw it just now. :P

[Xillen]

I'm interested though poker is quite an intense game needing skills and a certain level of competent role-playing all of its own. On top of that you're asking for a further layer of RP with the social/sexual side. I am keen to play in such games but the poker format puts me off, if a less intense game environment could be used I'd be more eager to ask for a place. Perhaps a much less intense and formal setting, something at a private party perhaps.

A casual game would make this a totally different story. An intend to actually see the poker game as a contest is very much what I'm aiming at.

I was hoping the people that originally responded to this thread would have a say in what game they want to see, what they think about the possible party idea, and how we should solve the dealers.

So basically, can those with interest give a reply and answer the following questions:

Setting: Someone's home/Private casino room/Don't care/Other?
Partners: Defenitely no/I'd rather not/I don't care/I'd rather would/Defenitely yes?
Game: Don't care/Texas Holdem/Drawpoker/Blackjack/Liardice/Other? (more than one option allowed)
Dealer: One devoted player/Take turns/Cross table (if possible)/One of one partnership (if possible)/Don't care?

[Ket]

Setting: For me, this would all depend on the game type.  A casual game would be good at someone's home, but a contest type game I think would be more fun in a private casino room. 

Partners: I don't fully understand your concept for this, but I think I kind of get it.  Personally, it really doesn't matter whether it's partners or not.

Game: Drawpoker or Blackjack. 

Dealer:  I'd like to see one devoted dealer.  Maybe as an NPC?

I'm going to go re-read your PM and then add more...

[Xillen]

Dealer:  I'd like to see one devoted dealer.  Maybe as an NPC?

An NPC wouldn't work, unless whoever controls the NPC doesn't also play. That person sends players their cards, so there's no way he or she could also be playing in a fair way.

Partnership is basically having all characters form couples. Each couple has one stack of credits together, one amount of clothes to share, and is basically playing the Poker game (but not the RP) as a single player.

I guess I should include my own answers as well:

Setting: Someone's home/Private casino room/Don't care/Other?

As I said, I'd like the contest, so I'm more in favor of the casino idea.

Partners: Defenitely no/I'd rather not/I don't care/I'd rather would/Defenitely yes?

They might be interesting, and they would fix the dealer problem, but I could do without as well.

Game: Don't care/Texas Holdem/Drawpoker/Blackjack/Liardice/Other? (more than one option allowed)

I favor Drawpoker and Texas Holdem, but other games are ok as well.

Dealer: One devoted player/Take turns/Cross table (if possible)/One of one partnership (if possible)/Don't care?

Partners would provide an easy solution, or otherwise Cross table (if we have 2 games, have on player of each game be the dealer for the other game. This could either be an actual dealer NPC, or just PMing who has what card when the players describe how they shuffle and deal the cards). The take turns sounds unrealistic, so in the worst case scenario, I'd like to go with a devoted player.

[Hollin]

Setting: Someone's home/Private casino room/Don't care/Other?

Don't care either way, as long as its a contest like you say you would like

Partners: Defenitely no/I'd rather not/I don't care/I'd rather would/Defenitely yes?

I would prefer no for partners, going on the feeling that more players would be more fun.

Game: Don't care/Texas Holdem/Drawpoker/Blackjack/Liardice/Other? (more than one option allowed)

I've always found Holdem more fun than Draw...though Draw would certainly move faster.   Blackjack would be ok to (though might be slow as well).  Any of the 3 really....as I can't say I'm very familiar with Liardice.

Dealer: One devoted player/Take turns/Cross table (if possible)/One of one partnership (if possible)/Don't care?

One player would probably make things run more smoothly...but would kinda be unfair to the one as he won't get to play.   Taking turns would be the most fair if everyone is prepared.