[Full] D&D 3.5e game - dungeon crawl

[Combicon]

I wanted a 5 person team for this game, it'd be using the 3.5e books that I have.

Taken/reserved:
1. Goalt (assuming she still wants to play)
2. Xillen (assuming he still wants to play)
3. Inkidu
4. Vandren
5. RubySlippers

Charater development info
The characters will start on level 3, for the ability scores, we will be using a point-buy system, with 22 points.

We will be using the PHB 3.5e, this means the races available are:
>Human
>Halfling
>Half-orc
>Dwarf
>Half-elf
>Elf

and the classes available are:
>Barbarian
>Bard
>Cleric
>Druid
>Fighter
>Monk
>Paladin
>Ranger
>Rogue
>Sorcerer
>Wizard

If you do make a character sheet, You should use http://www.myth-weavers.com/
It doesn't take long to set an account up, does most of the calculations for you, and makes it easier for me to understand. Just link me the url of the character and I'll have a looksee. :P


I reserve the right to refuse any character I see fit, for any reason I wish, however I will probably not use this power unless I deem it necessary (i.e. obvious made up stat rolls, stuff like that).
I would like to thank Ryu, fragile, chris, myrland many others for putting up with my D&D stuff

[Inkidu]

I've always wanted to do this, do I have to know the system intimately or will you take a newb?

[Combicon]

I'll be accepting anyone, as long as their characters are within the limits set above. :]

[Inkidu]

I'll be accepting anyone, as long as their characters are within the limits set above. :]

Okay any classes already taken? I was thinking either human rouge or half-elf ranger.

[Combicon]

You can be whatever class you want in the 3.5PHB.

[Inkidu]

You can be whatever class you want in the 3.5PHB.

I just didn't want the game to end up with two paladins or whatever.

[Combicon]

I wont let the game end up like that, but now no classes have been assigned.

[Inkidu]

I wont let the game end up like that, but now no classes have been assigned.

Off to find a character sheet generator then. To the internet!

[Duncan]

I would like to try this if you still have an opening.

[Inkidu]

What does the repeat mean in the 4d6? I thought you only did it once?

[Duncan]

we make 3 columns and use the best out of three don't know if that is how she does it or not.

[Inkidu]

Could someone help me out with how much a rank in a skill is worth?

[Duncan]

need to check with her on that but I believe its 3/6 or maybe its 5/10

[Combicon]

1 rank usually means 1 skill point, however if it isn't a class skill, 1 costs 2 points.

[Inkidu]

1 rank usually means 1 skill point, however if it isn't a class skill, 1 costs 2 points.

Alrighty so what about that repeat part? How many times?

[Combicon]

Oh, what, are you talking about skills or stats?
Stats are the roll 4d6, skills you have a specific number for.

[Inkidu]

Oh, what, are you talking about skills or stats?
Stats are the roll 4d6, skills you have a specific number for.

Stats.

[Combicon]

For stats, you roll 4d6, (dropping the lowest number and recording that number) 6 times. Once you've got six, you assign them to any of the six stats; STR - strength, WIS - wisdom, INT - intelegence, CHA - charisma, DEX - dexterity, or CON - consistution.

[Inkidu]

Sorry to be a bother but let me make sure I've got this right.

4d6s is four six-sided dice.

Drop the lowest value leaving me with three number values.

Then do it five more times. dropping the lowest value.

So I have 18 numbers (3 x 6 rolls)

Then those 18 numbers are supposed to be placed into six attributes?

[Combicon]

hehe

You roll four six sided dice, and drop the lowest dice number of that roll, making a note of the result.
So if you rolled 3, 5, 6, and 4, you would drop 3, and then total the rest of the numbers, making a score of 15.

There are 6 abilities in total, meaning you have to do the above 6 times.
So at the end you would have 6 different numbers (so you might have 9, 18, 15, 4, 6, 7 as an example), you place each number onto an ability as you see fit (so you could put 18 on strength, 4 on wisdom, 7 on charisma until all the numbers have been used up.)

[Inkidu]

hehe

You roll four six sided dice, and drop the lowest dice number of that roll, making a note of the result.
So if you rolled 3, 5, 6, and 4, you would drop 3, and then total the rest of the numbers, making a score of 15.

There are 6 abilities in total, meaning you have to do the above 6 times.
So at the end you would have 6 different numbers (so you might have 9, 18, 15, 4, 6, 7 as an example), you place each number onto an ability as you see fit (so you could put 18 on strength, 4 on wisdom, 7 on charisma until all the numbers have been used up.)

That makes more sense.
So do I send the rolls to you or should I do them myself?

[Combicon]

You should do them yourself, it's your character after all.

Once you've done it, I'd love it if you could create an account on here - http://www.myth-weavers.com/  and put the characters stuff in it (like this: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120201) it does all the calculations for you, except for racial / class bonuses, but if you need any help with that, just ask.

[Inkidu]

Um... how do I get my HP and what are the mods for a half-elf

[Combicon]

To find out Hp, you roll the hit die.
For sorcerer and wizards, they use a four sided dice.
For bards and rogues, they use a six sided dice.
For Clerics, druids, monks and rangers they use an eight sided dice.
For fighters and paladins they use a ten sided dice.
And for a barbarian, s/he uses a twelve sided dice.

But for half-elves.
> Immunity to sleep spells, and other similar magical effects
> +2 racial bonus on saving throws against enchantment spells or effects
> Low light vision - half-elves can see twice as far as humans in starlight, moonlight, torchlight (general poor illumination).
> +1 racial bonus on listen, search and spot checks
> +2 racial bonus on Diplomacy and Gather Information checks.
> Automatic languages: Common and elven

[Inkidu]

Thanks I'll try and fill out as much as possible and give you the link to go over it. So if you need to give me something so you can access it tell me between now and then. :D

[Combicon]

Well, when you regester and create it, after it's saved I should be able to look at it if you send me the url.

[Inkidu]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120467

That's far from complete but can you tell me what I need to do?

[Combicon]

I realised I made a mistake, thankfully it wasn't too big of one as the stats stay the same.

You need to choose the skills your character has.
To determine how many skill points a character gets at leve one, you usually add a specific number for the class with the intelegence modifier then times it by four. So a ranger would be (6 + int mod) x 4.
For every level above level one, it is that specific class number added to the intelegence modifier, so 6 + int for ranger.

So you'd have to add 6 to 1(your int mod), then times it by 4 to get your starting skill points.
To get your character to level 2 skill points, you add 6 plus your int mod (1) to the previous number.
And to get your character to level 3 skill points, you add 6 plus your int mod again to the previous number.

Once you've worked out how many skill points you have, you can spend them to get ranks in the skills. :D
There are two types of skills per class; class skills, and cross-class skills, the only difference being it costs 2 skill points to get 1 rank in cross class skills, and 1 skill to get 1 rank in class skills.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/Classes/ranger.htm <- Contains class skills for a ranger
http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/skills.htm <- Contains all skills for d&d 3.5

You start with 2700 gp (you'll have to deduct weapons and armor and the like from that) , which you can spend on whatever you want.
http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/magicItems.htm That's a list of magic items, just incase you want to equip your character with some of those.

Aside from that I can't think of anything else. xD

[Inkidu]

Racial mods go to Misc in the skill list right?

[Combicon]

Yeah.

[Inkidu]

Um... is there any list of non-magical items so I can deduct my weapons armor and equipment?

[Combicon]

Non-magical stuff: http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/equipment.htm

[Inkidu]

It doesn't give the price...

[Combicon]

Random gear - http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/goodsAndServices.htm#chain
Armor - http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/armor.htm
Weapons - http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm

[Vandren]

Ok, I'm intrigued.   The last time I played D&D it was AD&D 2nd ed. (ok, back in 1997).  I've picked up the basic 3.5 stuff thanks to nostalgia and a student.  So . . . I guess I'm saying I'd be interested in joining up.  If you don't mind someone very familiar with AD&D 1st/2nd ed. and new to 3.5.  :)

Probably a Human or Half-Elf Cleric/Wizard (2/1)

BTW: I've found this to be a helpful online character creation site: http://www.pathguy.com/cg35.htm

[Inkidu]

Thanks Combi, I know I'm the token yutz. :)

[Inkidu]

I think it's finally finished.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120467

[RubySlippers]

Need a halfling burglar?

A pure rogue.

[Vandren]

Here's a Human Cleric(2) / Wizard (1):

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120595

(Stats only, so far)

[Vandren]

I think it's finally finished.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120467

Need to manually type in your Base Attack Bonus (+3) and Base Saving Throws (F = +3, R = +3, W = +1)

Also, put the Ring of Protection bonus in the AC Bonus part (I'm guessing +1 since those cost 2,000 gp)

[Xillen]

I'm probably interested (after Combi bugging me on IRC), but I'm not sure there's still space. Combi, can you do an update on the slots?

[Combicon]

Yeah, we're full now.
So the party is
Xillen
Goalt
Inkidu
Vandren
Ruby

I've changed it from a 4 party to 5, mostly to fit people in, I was caught between 4 and 5 anyway, I thought 4 may have been a little smalll. :P

I need to know if you'd prefer a fully planned game or one that is looser and more open. :P

[BigBuckBob]

Well since the rules keep changing, I'll toss my hat in. Just in case 5 is too small, or someone needs to back out.

[Combicon]

I can't promise anyone will back out, and unfortunatly it wont be getting any bigger than 5. :P

[Xillen]

I'll be busy tonight, so I'll roll my char on fridayevening.

Combi> what program/site do you want to use for dicerolling? Or do you want to roll the 6x 4d6 for me? ;)

[Inkidu]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120467

There I made the changes. I put the ring bonus in the deflect field because that's supposed to be what it counts as.

[Combicon]

Personally, I use http://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm to roll dice, if not that then I'll do it irl.
I don't know of any other dice roller. xD

[Inkidu]

Personally, I use http://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm to roll dice, if not that then I'll do it irl.
I don't know of any other dice roller. xD

I think I'll use this one. So as long as someone tells me what to roll I should be okay.

[Vandren]

Sounds good.  :)

[Inkidu]

Sounds good.  :)

Looking at your character sheet makes me think I'm going to get my ass handed to me.

[Vandren]

They're about equal in AC, but the ranger's got a better attack bonus and damage.  The HP came from 8 + 7 + 3 + CON bonus (+1/lvl).  And I got a bit lucky on the dice rolls.  I think I focused the skill points a bit more and went for smaller ticket magic items too.  So Durias can "do" less in terms of training, in some respects.

Did you include CON bonus for HP?

[Inkidu]

They're about equal in AC, but the ranger's got a better attack bonus and damage.  The HP came from 8 + 7 + 3 + CON bonus (+1/lvl).  And I got a bit lucky on the dice rolls.  I think I focused the skill points a bit more and went for smaller ticket magic items too.  So Durias can "do" less in terms of training, in some respects.

Did you include CON bonus for HP?

By a rule of thumb no I just rolled it dice.

[Vandren]

Should end up with 3 additional HP then.

[Inkidu]

There it's totally updated.

I think I'm going to end up doing all the climbing.
I wonder what kind of dungeon Combi picked out.

[Xillen]

Personally, I use http://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm to roll dice, if not that then I'll do it irl.
I don't know of any other dice roller. xD

There's no store button, so I can't prove to you that I rolled that. Might as well roll with my actual dice.

There's a dieroller built into the forum, which has a store button, so the DM can check if the players are playing fair.

But yeah, you can roll for my dice IRL :)


Inkidu> Don't forget that you get max HP for your first level instead of rolling it.

As for the skills, it might be easier to see it like this:

Your class gives a number of skills per level.
You add your Intelligence modofier to this value.
You add 1 to this value if you are a Human.
The end value is your "skills per level" value.

Simple method:
Pick a number of skills equal to your "skills per level" value.
You have <your level + 3> ranks in each class skill you picked.
You have half of that (rounded down) in each cross class skill you picked.

Advanced method:
Multiply "skills per level" by <your level + 3> to get your total amount of skillpoints.
Spend them on skills as you desire, but no more than <your level + 3> skillpoints per skill.
Your ranks in class skills are equal to the number of skillpoints spent.
Your ranks in crossclass skills are equal to half the number of skillpoints spent (rounded down).

Of course, all the above assumes you're a singleclass. It get's a little more complex for multiclass.

[Inkidu]

I've got my skill right though I'm going to have to redo my hit rolls. So I get the max (8).

[Xillen]

Going over Inkidu's character sheet:

14 hit points means you rolled a 1 and a 2? (Your total HP should be 8+1 + 1d8+1 + 1d8+1 = 2d8 + 11)

Skillpoints:
6 (class) + 1 (int) = 7/level, for a total of 42. I seem to count 43 skillpoints.

You need to remove 1 skillpoint. You might also consider focussing your skillpoint more. A lot of skills that have 5 or more ranks give a +2 bonus to one or more other skills. In addition, some of your class abilities depend on your Survival and Handle Animal skills, so you might make sure you have enough ranks in there.

Lastly, some skills, such as Knowledge and Open Lock are trained only. You can only use them if you have at least 1 rank in them.

[Inkidu]

Going over Inkidu's character sheet:

14 hit points means you rolled a 1 and a 2? (Your total HP should be 8+1 + 1d8+1 + 1d8+1 = 2d8 + 11)

Skillpoints:
6 (class) + 1 (int) = 7/level, for a total of 42. I seem to count 43 skillpoints.

You need to remove 1 skillpoint. You might also consider focussing your skillpoint more. A lot of skills that have 5 or more ranks give a +2 bonus to one or more other skills. In addition, some of your class abilities depend on your Survival and Handle Animal skills, so you might make sure you have enough ranks in there.

Lastly, some skills, such as Knowledge and Open Lock are trained only. You can only use them if you have at least 1 rank in them.

Varden says I get a +3 con bonus.

[Combicon]

Looking at the character sheets:

Inki - the composite longbows range is 110 ft. :P
Aside from that, I can't see anything else that needs to be changed.

Van - The daggers damage is soley 1d4 I believe, the 1d3 is for small sized characters (I think), and 1d4 is medium sized, the same with the mace (medium = 1d8)
And what class did you choose first? Just making sure the skill points are correct and all that. :P

Should this be moved to another thread? xD

Inki - +3 con bonus? Reading over the half-elf and ranger pages I can't see that, but I might be mistaken.

[Inkidu]

It's a  +1 bonus per level retrospective, and if I had to take a guess it's because of my one +1 in constitution. This is to my HP should have made that clear. Maybe I should just re-roll my Hits

[Vandren]

Van - The daggers damage is soley 1d4 I believe, the 1d3 is for small sized characters (I think), and 1d4 is medium sized, the same with the mace (medium = 1d8)
And what class did you choose first? Just making sure the skill points are correct and all that. :P

Yep.  I put the small / medium as a reminder for myself.

Cleric goes first, there's enough crossover of class skills that only the Knowledges (Arcana, Local, and History) should be affected.

Inki - +3 con bonus? Reading over the half-elf and ranger pages I can't see that, but I might be mistaken.

He's covered that, I think (+1 hp per level for constitution at 3 levels = +3 hp).

[Combicon]

Van - Alright, hehe.
And I wasn't aware that it was +conbonus per level. I am now though. :]
So the max he'd be able to get is 27 hitpoints I believe, and the lowest would be 14.

anyone else spotted any other problems, unless we haven't covered hitpoints enough? :D

[Inkidu]

No I think my Char sheet is finally finished.

[Xillen]

rolling 1 and 1 would give 8+1, 1+1, 1+1 = 13 hp.

rolling 8 and 8 would give 8+1, 8+1, 8+1 = 27 hp.

And yes, it's con modifier (+1) per level, so +3 total.

I also notice a +2 bonus to decipher script. Dunno where it comes from. The bonuses from Agile, and the racial bonus for Sense Motive is missing.

[Inkidu]

rolling 1 and 1 would give 8+1, 1+1, 1+1 = 13 hp.

rolling 8 and 8 would give 8+1, 8+1, 8+1 = 27 hp.

And yes, it's con modifier (+1) per level, so +3 total.

I also notice a +2 bonus to decipher script. Dunno where it comes from. The bonuses from Agile, and the racial bonus for Sense Motive is missing.

I get a racial bonus to sense motive?

[Vandren]

racial bonus for Sense Motive is missing.

Half-Elves don't get a bonus for Sense Motive.  Actually, I can't find any race in the PHB that does get a Sense Motive bonus.

He does get a +2 Sense Motive against Orcs (favored enemy), but that's class based.

[Xillen]

Or was it Diplomacy? It was to 2 skills, I'm sure.

I'll check it out when I'm back at home. Can check on all the stuff then.

[Inkidu]

Or was it Diplomacy? It was to 2 skills, I'm sure.

I'll check it out when I'm back at home. Can check on all the stuff then.

It's diplomacy what do I get for agile?

[Vandren]

+2 to Balance and Escape Artist

[Inkidu]

Anything else?

[Combicon]

The only other thing would be if you guys want the game to be more of an open game, or a fixed one; so a game where the map has been mostly drawn, but things can change, or one where very little can change. :]

[Inkidu]

The only other thing would be if you guys want the game to be more of an open game, or a fixed one; so a game where the map has been mostly drawn, but things can change, or one where very little can change. :]

I vote more open.

[RubySlippers]

Stats for my character Thistlerose, the halfling "um" adventureress thats it sounds nice and pro-fessional.

These don't include racial adjustments.
STR 16, DEX 15, CON 15, INT 17, WIS 16, CHA 12

So her stats are Str 14, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 17, Wis 16, Cha 12 (adjusted) and I will note I rolled and kept these as they came up on the dice roller.

Will be a classic burglar sort of rogue, bluffing and the like isn't her forte' anyway. So how are you doing hit points and money?

[Inkidu]

2700 gold and whatever the hit die for rogues is I suppose.

[RubySlippers]

Hit Points 20.

http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2027251/

Maximum at Level 1 6 Hit Points
Rolled for the next two levels and added 6 Hit Points for Con

So 2d6+12. Simple.

Anyway fighting is for the big strong fighter types they do their jobs and she will do hers.  :D

[Combicon]

Alright, well, the last character sheets we need are Rubyslippers, goalts and xillens.

[Inkidu]

I'm an archer so I'm not too worried about getting in the fray.

[Vandren]

Based on HP and AC, I'm guessing Durias is going to be the front line so far . . . I'm kind of amused that the mage (and cleric) is the probable front line.   :-)

[Xillen]

Well, I hope Goalt wants to be the tank, because my stats (9 11 12 13 14 17) are so underpowered compared to others, that I'm not planning on rolling one myself.

Vandren> anything with an 18 and 2 17s is probably gonna excel at most stuff anyhow... You'd be a 55 point buy character if we were using pointbuy. That's just insane.

[Inkidu]

Based on HP and AC, I'm guessing Durias is going to be the front line so far . . . I'm kind of amused that the mage (and cleric) is the probable front line.   :-)

That's life.

[Vandren]

I dunno Xillen, a pretty good fighter could come out of 9 11 12 13 14 17 . . . or maybe I'm still in old AD&D 2nd ed mode there.

[Xillen]

Vandren, I could roll a decentish fighter with those stats, in a party with likewise stats.

But it doesn't make sense at all if the caster has a better armor ON TOP OF having pretty much max for both his caster stats...

[Vandren]

Dunno.  I just slapped together a pretty good Half-Orc fighter with those stats in about 5 minutes.  Add 2700 gp of gear . . . Full Plate and Heavy Shield (+10 armor) with a little under 1200 left over.  With the 17 in Dex, that's a 23 AC.  (Assuming Human, it's not so good, but depending on race it could be made to work well.)

[Xillen]

I already have much lower stats than the rest of the party, and you suggest I pick the race with the weakest stats?

[Vandren]

No, that's just the one I used.  *shrug*

I'm just tossing out suggestions for working around the roll.  Trying to use a few decades of D&D experience to help.

Just for note, the one's Ruby rolled up come to 53 in point-buy.  And Inkidu's rolled up to 44 in point-buy.

[Inkidu]

I already have much lower stats than the rest of the party, and you suggest I pick the race with the weakest stats?

What are you playing?

[Combicon]

I feel that it would be in the best interests of players if we swapped to a point-buy system instead.
We'll be using 22 points.
For anyone who doesn't know, one point is worth one ability level, so you could have a generic character in all abilities, or a high-leveled character in one or two abilities, and less so in all others.
Hopefully this will nullify most of the problems so far.

[Vandren]

We'll be using 22 points.
For anyone who doesn't know, one point is worth one ability level, so you could have a generic character in all abilities, or a high-leveled character in one or two abilities, and less so in all others.

So a straight one-to-one?  Or the DMG scale?

DMG Scale
9 -14 = 1 pt. / level
15 = 8
16 = 10
17 = 13
18 = 16

[Inkidu]

So a straight one-to-one?  Or the DMG scale?

DMG Scale
9 -14 = 1 pt. / level
15 = 8
16 = 10
17 = 13
18 = 16

She upped it to the answer to the universe and everything (42)

[Vandren]

She upped it to the answer to the universe and everything (42)

Yep . . . so the DMG scale's the way to go.  One-to-one with 42 would lead to straight 15s for stats.   :-)

[Inkidu]

Yep . . . so the DMG scale's the way to go.  One-to-one with 42 would lead to straight 15s for stats.   :-)

I have no idea what you just said.

[RubySlippers]

I feel that it would be in the best interests of players if we swapped to a point-buy system instead.
We'll be using 22 points.
For anyone who doesn't know, one point is worth one ability level, so you could have a generic character in all abilities, or a high-leveled character in one or two abilities, and less so in all others.
Hopefully this will nullify most of the problems so far.

And best interests for who seems most of us like the stats we have and characters. If I rolled worse I would have kept the stats and did the best I can but since my character is great its not in my best interest to drop her great stats to that. I even ran a character that lasted awhile with a total stat bonus of -3, as in of all six stats they totaled -3.

9 11 12 13 14 17 are very decent stats.

[Xillen]

It's more about the difference in stats than the stats themselves. It's no fun having players with 18's and 17's, while others are running around with 13's. 13's on themselves are not the problem.

Also don't link Combi's comment to my stats directly. It's her decision, not mine (I personally wouldn't make such a drastic change after starting).

Anyhow, if Combi insists on using pointbuy, it works like this. You have a certain number of points (Combi seemed to go for low-powered so 22 points total). You use those 22 points to buy 6 scores, and assign each score to one ability stat of your choice. Apply racial modifiers afterwards.

Score 8 costs 0 points.
Score 9 costs 1 point.
Score 10 costs 2 points.
Score 11 costs 3 points.
Score 12 costs 4 points.
Score 13 costs 5 points.
Score 14 costs 6 points. (So up to here it's reasonably cheap)
Score 15 costs 8 points.
Score 16 costs 10 points.
Score 17 costs 13 points.
Score 18 costs 16 points.

[Inkidu]

She raised the total to 42 as 22 was far too low.

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Gah, you're right.
Sorry.
I took one from the DMG.
Lets go with 42 points then. 20 more points. :D

[Vandren]

It's more about the difference in stats than the stats themselves. It's no fun having players with 18's and 17's, while others are running around with 13's. 13's on themselves are not the problem.

They shouldn't be a problem in the first two sentences scenario either, with some creative usage and racial modification.  I've played in that role myself in the past and it's worked out nicely and been fun.  But that's neither here nor there anymore.

Also don't link Combi's comment to my stats directly. It's her decision, not mine (I personally wouldn't make such a drastic change after starting).

Actually, it's directly tied to the complaints.  And indirectly tied to them in that, if the complaints weren't there, the change wouldn't have occurred.

Now, personally, I was happy with the luck that I had.  But that's ok because I like point buy (hey, I'm a GURPS guy by preference and the lack of control in a straight roll was always one of my problems with AD&D, along with classes and alignment) and I'm happy with the redone stuff for the character.

Anyway . . .

The new point buy Durias (single class wizard)
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120595

[Xillen]

Now I'm confused. Is it 22 or 42 points? :P Durias' character seems to be using 38 points :P

So we have Durias as the arcanist, Inkidu as the ranged attacker, Ruby as the rogue, which leaves Goalt and myself. I'll probably go for something with at least some healing capabilities (Cleric or Paladin), unless goalt goes for that.

[Inkidu]

Now I'm confused. Is it 22 or 42 points? :P Durias' character seems to be using 38 points :P

So we have Durias as the arcanist, Inkidu as the ranged attacker, Ruby as the rogue, which leaves Goalt and myself. I'll probably go for something with at least some healing capabilities (Cleric or Paladin), unless goalt goes for that.

Me too :p but I'm the newb...

[Vandren]

Let's spell this out simply . . .

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Inkidu

I'm not sure what happened to the stats on your character sheet, but Everett was at 44 points (by point buy), which means that modification to 42 points is simple.  Basically two of his stats rated 14 or lower would drop one level, one rated 14 or lower would drop two levels, or a stat rated 15 or 16 would drop one level.

In Point Buy, all attributes start at 8 and go up from there on a scale that both Xillen and I have posted here.  (Replies #93 and #88)

[Inkidu]

Let's spell this out simply . . .

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Inkidu

I'm not sure what happened to the stats on your character sheet, but Everett was at 44 points (by point buy), which means that modification to 42 points is simple.  Basically two of his stats rated 14 or lower would drop one level, one rated 14 or lower would drop two levels, or a stat rated 15 or 16 would drop one level.

In Point Buy, all attributes start at 8 and go up from there on a scale that both Xillen and I have posted here.  (Replies #93 and #88)

I'm going to wait to here back for Combi on this one.

[Combicon]

In Point Buy, all attributes start at 8 and go up from there on a scale that both Xillen and I have posted here.  (Replies #93 and #88)

Yeah, that was my mistake there, I wasn't thinking much when I told him that it didn't. Heh...

[RubySlippers]

I'm not fond of point buy, I've done it, but am a purist I like not knowing what I'm getting until I get them. Most of the time I roll in order and keep the stats its just fun to have a character that is like a normal person gifts and weaknesses given to one by nature. Then trying to find your place in the world.

Still its ok I suppose. Lets see stats for my new halfling rogue - Str 12, Dex 20, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 14, Cha 12.

It was a 42 point buy?  ???

[Xillen]

Ruby, assuming Str 14, Dex 18 pre racials, that comes down to 42 points.

Inkidu, I'm not sure what you all changed around, but you're now at 52 points. You'll have to lower some scores.

I'll see if I can bug Goalt on IRC tonight, so I can check on her class :)

[Inkidu]

Ruby, assuming Str 14, Dex 18 pre racials, that comes down to 42 points.

Inkidu, I'm not sure what you all changed around, but you're now at 52 points. You'll have to lower some scores.

I'll see if I can bug Goalt on IRC tonight, so I can check on her class :)

I fixed it I've plugged it into a calculator I checked the numbers seven times. From eight the points I spent add up to forty two. Now I'm off to add my new con bonus to my hit.

[Xillen]

It's not a 1:1 ratio. A 14 costs 6 points indeed, but a 16 costs 10 points, even though it's only 8 higher than 8.

16's and especially 18's cost more, because those really are exceptional stats, and you need to sacrofice a bit to get to them.

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Heh, sorry, yeah, they're right, I misread it.

1 point is 9
2 points are 10
3 points are 11
4 points are 12 on the ability score.

That seems 1:1 to me if you start at eight.

[Xillen]

Oh, ok. That's not the regular pointbuy.

* Xillen will wait for a status update from Combi

[Inkidu]

Oh, ok. That's not the regular pointbuy.

* Xillen will wait for a status update from Combi

Yeah I know. I used to have a Pool of Radiance computer game and it used that other system, as far as I can tell. *Waits for Combi*

[Combicon]

I asked someone on irc if it was 1:1, and they said yes, so I figured that's what it was.

But for point buys -
Ability score                Point cost
    9                                  1
    10                                 2
    11                                 3
    12                                 4
    13                                 5
    14                                 6
    15                                 8
    16                               10
    17                               13
    18                               16

And because of me being stupid and not realising what I had done, lets make it 28 points. :]

[Inkidu]

I asked someone on irc if it was 1:1, and they said yes, so I figured that's what it was.

But for point buys -
Ability score                Point cost
    9                                  1
    10                                 2
    11                                 3
    12                                 4
    13                                 5
    14                                 6
    15                                 8
    16                               10
    17                               13
    18                               16

And because of me being stupid and not realising what I had done, lets make it 28 points. :]

Okay... :\

[Inkidu]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120467

These are up to snuff...

[Vandren]

Looks like that comes to 30, Inkidu.

12 = 4 pts
16 = 10
12 = 4
14 = 6
10 = 2
12 = 4

total = 30

I'm not sure if this makes sense anymore, but Durias v. 4.0.0
http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120595

[RubySlippers]

I asked someone on irc if it was 1:1, and they said yes, so I figured that's what it was.

But for point buys -
Ability score                Point cost
    9                                  1
    10                                 2
    11                                 3
    12                                 4
    13                                 5
    14                                 6
    15                                 8
    16                               10
    17                               13
    18                               16

And because of me being stupid and not realising what I had done, lets make it 28 points. :]

I'm out a DM that can't decide what they want, change once then twice is not the sort I like to play under. I'm sure you can find another person to run a rogue.

[Inkidu]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=120467

There it's all fixed up.

[Xillen]

It's changed again? :o

[Inkidu]

It's changed again? :o

Not so much as changed as I think she fixed a mistake she made.

[Combicon]

Yeah, sorry about all the changes, thanks for bearing with me about it.
Heh...
There shouldn't be any more changes. :D

[goalt]

Okay, I'm playing a Human* Druid.


*Curse the lack of +wis races.  :P

[Xillen]

There's afaik only a single LA0 +wisdom race, and that race is incapable of spellcasting.

I'm going to make something melee'ish then. Maybe a Paladin.

[Inkidu]

There's afaik only a single LA0 +wisdom race, and that race is incapable of spellcasting.

I'm going to make something melee'ish then. Maybe a Paladin.

I love the smell of lawful good in the morning. It smells like... victory.

[Xillen]

Just a bit of a workout. I'll flesh it out more and put it on the requested site later on.

Name: Zoe Clearwater
Player: Xillen
Race: Human
Class: Paladin

Str 14
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 14
Cha 14

HP 2d10+16

Feats:
Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword
Mounted Combat

Skills:
Handle Animal: +7 (+5 Ranks, +2 Cha)
Knowledge (Religion): +4 (+5 Ranks, -1 Int)
Ride: +5 (+2 Ranks, +1 Dex, +2 Misc)

Heavy Warhorse - 400gp
Mw Bastard Sword - 300something gp
Full Plate - 1500gp

Leaves 500gp for mundane stuff.

Hmm, maybe an Everburning Torch...

[Inkidu]

Checking in.

[Vandren]

I suppose I should officially bump myself out of the group.  There're a couple reasons--other E projects that have come up or might, uncertainty about who my character is, others that shouldn't be aired in a public thread--but, there . . . for once I'll follow Ruby (that's probably a sign of the impending apocalypse, just FYI  ;) ).

[Xillen]

Name:           Zoe Clearwater
Alignment:      Lawful Good
Player:         Xillen
Level:          3
Campaign:       Combicon's Dungeon Crawl
Homeland:       ???
Race:           Human
Class:          Paladin
Deity:          Heironeous
Size:           Medium
Gender:         Female
Age:            20
Height:         5'9"
Weight:         155lb
Hair:           Short brown
Eyes:           Dark blue

Strength:       14
Dexterity:      12
Constitution:   14
Intelligence:    8
Wisdom:         14
Charisma:       14

Speed:          30
Hit Points:     31
Initiative:     +1 (+1 dex)
BAB:            +3
Grapple:        +5 (+3 bab, +2 str, +0 size)

Unarmed:        +5 to hit, 1d3+2 damage, 20/x2 (bludgeoning)
Mw Bastard Sw:  +7 to hit, 1d10+2 damage, 19-20/x2 (slashing)
Comp Shortbow:  +4 to hit, 1d6+2 damage, 20/x3 (piercing)

Armor Class:    21 (10 base, +8 armor, +2 shield, +1 dex)
Flatfooted:     20 (10 base, +8 armor, +2 shield)
Touch:          11 (10 base, +1 dex)

Fortitude:      +7 (+3 base, +2 con, +2 misc)
Reflex:         +4 (+1 base, +1 dex, +2 misc)
Will:           +5 (+1 base, +2 wis, +2 misc)

Handle Animal:  +7 (+5 ranks, +2 cha)
Knw Religion:   +4 (+5 ranks, -1 int)
Ride:           +5 (+2 ranks, +1 dex, +2 misc)

Feats:
Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
Mounted Combat
Weapon Focus: Bastard Sword

Abilities:
Aura of Courage
Aura of Good
Detect Evil
Divine Grace
Divine Health
Lay on Hands (6/day)
Smite Evil (1/day, +2 to hit, +3 damage)

Languages:
Common

Equipment:                    pc   lb   cost
Masterwork Bastard Sword            6    335gp
+2 Mighty Composite Longbow         2     10gp
Arrow                         50    7,5    25sp
Full Plate (-6 skills)             50   1500gp
Heavy Steel Shield (-2 skills)     15     20gp

Explorer's Outfit                   8
Silver Holy Symbol                  1     25gp
Spell Component Pouch               2      5gp
Belt Pouch                          0,5    1gp
Backpack                            2      2gp
Sack                          10    5      1gp
Bedroll                             5       1sp
Winter Blanket                      3       5sp               
Whetstone                           1        2cp
Crowbar                             5      2gp
Silk Rope                           5     10gp
Grappling Hook                      4      1gp
Chalk                         10            1sp
Everburning Torch                   1    110gp
Soap                                1       5sp

Heavy Warhorse                           400gp
Bit and Bridle                      1      2gp
Military Saddle                    30     20gp
Saddlebags                          8      4gp
Feed                          10  100       5sp
Trail Rations                 10   10      5gp
Waterskin                     10   40      2gp

Money:          17gp, 7sp, 8cp
Encumbrance:    116lb
Weight Allow:   58/116/175

Appearance:
When riding around the countryside or whenever she feels a fight is at hand, Zoe goes around fully clad in her armor, sword and shield ready at her sides. Her thick brown hair is kept short to prevent it being in the way of combat. The only ornament she wears is a silver pendant hanging on her chest, representing a bolt of lightning, to honor her deity and the temple that raised her.
In calmer times, usually when she strolls around town, she'll leave her armor, weaponry and most of her equipment at home, and goes dressed in a single white robe, lacking any kind of ornaments. Occasionally, when the light of the sun shines through the thin fabric, a lucky bystander could receive a revealing view of her posture.

Background:
Zoe became an orphan at a young age when her hometown was brutally attacked by orcs, after which she was taken in and raised by priests of Heironeous. Growing up trained to do good, while at the same time building up a hatred to the creatures that assaulted her home village. As Zoe grew up, she was gifted with both the lessons of the priests in the channeling of god's power and of the militia in the training at arms and horseback riding. When she considered she was ready, Zoe rode out on a crusade to vanquish evil, but discovered the world wasn't nearly as black and white as she thought it would be in her sheltered home of the temple of Heironeous.

[Xillen]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=122536

[BigBuckBob]

http://www.pathguy.com/cg35.htm

Assuming your message was for me to post my sheet.

[Vekseid]

Personally, I use http://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm to roll dice, if not that then I'll do it irl.
I don't know of any other dice roller. xD

https://elliquiy.com/forums/dicebot.php >_>

[Xillen]

We've already pointed Combi there :)

[Inkidu]

Checking in.

[Inkidu]

I'm sorry I can't just wait around for this thing to start so I'm going to bid you all farewell.