Senate Candidate attacked for playing World of Warcraft

[TheGlyphstone]

It's making the rounds on the internet rapidly, as expected, but for anyone who hadn't heard already, the Maine Democratic Senate candidate, Colleen Lachowicz, plays WoW. This has been the basis for a surprisingly comprehensive attack campaign against her by her GOP rivals, including a website "Colleen's World" and paper mailers, drawing from comments made on the official forums and her own blog from as far as three years ago.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82043.html


This is in the PR+C section for obvious reasons, but partisan issues aside (and the obvious jokes about poor taste in games), should this sort of attack be kosher even in the mudslinging cesspit that is modern politics? Should politicians or aspiring politicians be forced to maintain constant professionalism in all aspects of their life, private, both physical and virtual? Or is there still a boundary that shouldn't be crossed, using an opponent's preference for entertainment when they're 'off the clock' and not causing actual harm to anyone as a weapon against them in the public eye?

[Callie Del Noire]

Well, I appreciate that she plays an assassination rogue...but she's a dirty evil hordie!!!,


I couldn't possibly vote for her because of that. 


The fact I'm not registered to vote in Maine helps too.

I hope, all joking aide, that she curb stomps the jerk. I'm still pissed how the GOP turned on Snow in the last cycle.

[Beguile's Mistress]

Should we pole the elected officials and candidates and see who believes in sparkly vampires or reads/has read/owns "50 Shades..." and while you're at it how many of their family members have breached the walls of conservatism and ideals the GOP says they hold dear.

It's really stupid to take a person's hobbies like this into consideration on such a deep level.  It's part of her but not all of her.

[Trieste]

I think as the older statesmen (and women, what few of them there are) begin to retire and younger politicians begin to step up, you will see more geeks, gamers, and RPers in politics. It's becoming more mainstream to enjoy digital entertainment, and video games aren't just for nerds any longer.

I think it's hypocritical for the GOP and others to embrace the tool of social media such as Twitter and Facebook as heartily as they have while still pointing fingers at online entertainment. It shows how they think of it as a tool, still, rather than a legitimate way of spending time, seeking out news and entertainment. Youtube and World of Warcraft are both sort of dowager internet by now, and if you're going to embrace one you should really learn to accept the other.

[Moraline]

It's interesting but I would be more inclined to vote for someone that I know plays World of Warcraft. Although I haven't played it for a long time myself. I think it's cool that she's like the rest of us and not to stuck up to play a game.

If I could vote for you, Colleen Lachowicz, I would.

... besides...

FOR THE HORDE!

[Callie Del Noire]

Well I got sneered at being a table top gamer by my co-workers in the Navy.. had one chief actually held it against me. And my rating was a 'Geek rating'. I used to joke you have something like 4 or 5 types of Male ATs (Avionics Tech): they were all at least one of the following: Gamers, Roleplayers, Computers, Musicians and/or Gearheads.

[Chris Brady]

Not my quote, but an acquaintance on the net sent me this E-Mail in response to this:

"The sheer irony of a GOP politician claiming the state needs a representative who lives in the real world is positively mind-breaking."

[TheGlyphstone]

Not my quote, but an acquaintance on the net sent me this E-Mail in response to this:

"The sheer irony of a GOP politician claiming the state needs a representative who lives in the real world is positively mind-breaking."

In the Republican candidate's (tentative, and thin) defense, he supposedly hasn't endorsed the attack ads and doesn't like mudslinging - the Maine GOP just does whatever it feels like without consulting their candidates. Whether that has any truth or not to it is unknown, and doesn't excuse the party itself, but Tom Martin is evidently trying to distance himself from the whole thing.

[Callie Del Noire]

In the Republican candidate's (tentative, and thin) defense, he supposedly hasn't endorsed the attack ads and doesn't like mudslinging - the Maine GOP just does whatever it feels like without consulting their candidates. Whether that has any truth or not to it is unknown, and doesn't excuse the party itself, but Tom Martin is evidently trying to distance himself from the whole thing.

Because it's so easy to turn back on him and he knows it. I mean.. "My opposition has so little substance and merit to his platform on the issues that he has to go after what I do in my casual time rather than my stance on the actual issues at hand." (Or something similar)

And zing..done at the right time..and he torpedoes..

But you're right Glyph.. it's not just the Main GOP.. there is a LOT of problems with attacking outside the party and candidates..

For example, when John McCain was running against Bush.. he was attacked via robocalls in South Carolina about his adopted daughter.. who was portrayed as his illegitimate child.

[Stattick]

That attack was clearly over the line.

It can be hard to tell where to draw the line though. For instance, for right or wrong, a candidate's sexual orientation very much is an issue in American politics because of the current battle for gay and trans rights. Video game playing is irrelevant nearly all the time, but if Congress was debating or thinking about a bill that would impact the computer game industry, her being a vid-gamer is actually quite relevant to the conversation. Politics is complicated, nuanced, and it's not always easy to see where the line between what should be public knowledge and what shouldn't be when it comes to candidates. But attacking because someone has a hobby that you don't approve of is silly, unless there's something that at lot of people would consider troubling about the hobby. You know, that the hobby might show something troubling about the candidate. Now maybe the GOP and/or Congresscritter are out of touch enough to think that vid-gaming is troubling. Or maybe their political calculus indicates that they should attack her on that front so old people are less likely to vote for her, since the elderly are often xenophobes.

It was still a silly attack, but I can think of scenarios where the GOP might have thought the attack was worth the risk. On the other hand, it was almost certainly an attempted ad hominem - instead of attacking her platform, they're attacking her to make her platform look bad.

[luphawk]

It's interesting but I would be more inclined to vote for someone that I know plays World of Warcraft. Although I haven't played it for a long time myself. I think it's cool that she's like the rest of us and not to stuck up to play a game.

If I could vote for you, Colleen Lachowicz, I would.

... besides...

FOR THE HORDE!

That’s a perfect example of what I was thinking when I read about this.  I’m sure this will lose her a few votes but I bet it gets her as many if not more.  I’m sure there will be geeks who weren’t planning to vote but will support her (or at least look into her more) after seeing this.

[Star Safyre]

We all know the real issue at hand is her position on ERP.  Are there screencaps of her in Goldshire?  Where are the chatlogs of that night with the two blood elves?  THE PEOPLE DESERVE THE TRUTH!

[tozhma]

I think that the GOP is making a critical failure here and showing the generation gap in the party. They're still in a "Monsters and Mazes" mindset when the world has moved on.

From an ethical standpoint this is silly, yet people will be people and a good politician will take advantage of whatever they can. That being said, there is a generation of people now who have never known life without the internet, and our adapted notions of self which include our personas online will very likely one day clash with more traditional realms like politics. Will we ever have a senator with a furcadia account? Maybe, though I think it's more of a "When?" than a "Will?"

[Zakharra]

 She is being attacked because she plays WoW?  Hell, as Moraline said, it's more likely to make me vote for her if she was my candidate. Even if she plays a Hordie..  kek.

[Serephino]

They're seriously resorting to attacking someone for playing a video game?  How sad...

[Callie Del Noire]

They're seriously resorting to attacking someone for playing a video game?  How sad...

Every angle they can take.. you'll find someone who will take the shot.

[Ironwolf85]

she should own it... make a joke ad out of it.

"This is Canidate Ragnar, and I want you to vote for me.
I will take a tough stand on the issues (shows him standing atop a dwarf), I have leadership experience (shows a horde raid going on in the background) and a serious axe to grind (sharpening axe) with the way things are done in washington.
If you elect me, ragnar, as your respresentive promise NO NEW AXES!"
(H.O.R.D.E. superpack is responsible for the content of this advertisement)

They should do an Alliance one too! with him basicly promising the same things!

[Scribbles]

Colleen did respond similarly to what some of you suggested...

Link to her Blog


Think she's a secret Elliquiy-er too?  :P

[Callie Del Noire]

Colleen did respond similarly to what some of you suggested...

Link to her Blog


Think she's a secret Elliquiy-er too?  :P

If she is, I hope she keeps that under wraps. But odds are she simply used common sense and a bit of google-fu for her blog post.

[tozhma]

Honestly, if I caught her wearing an angry birds shirt or something that would be enough to make me switch.

[gaggedLouise]

We all know the real issue at hand is her position on ERP.  Are there screencaps of her in Goldshire?  Where are the chatlogs of that night with the two blood elves?  THE PEOPLE DESERVE THE TRUTH!

;D

Next headline coming: "Boehner's son under Investigation for illegal manufacture and peddling of Virtual Swords!"

[tozhma]

INTERNATIONAL ARMS DEALER

[Tamhansen]

Weird thing is. Most of the attack focused not on her playing WoW but on being an Orc Rogue. A bloodthirsty backstabbing pick pocketing chest emptying savage.

Basically aren't those the skills to be the perfect politician?

[Serephino]

Weird thing is. Most of the attack focused not on her playing WoW but on being an Orc Rogue. A bloodthirsty backstabbing pick pocketing chest emptying savage.

Basically aren't those the skills to be the perfect politician?

You've got a point...

[tozhma]

I wonder if this could qualify as racist because she plays an orc?

[gaggedLouise]

I wonder if this could qualify as racist because she plays an orc?

Orcs are supposed to be Asians, mongols, right?

The Vapors - Turning Japanese

[tozhma]

In D&D's official release I thought there was supposed to be a bunch of racism against them. IDK, we usually homebrew it.

[TheGlyphstone]

The default D&D books have prejudice against half-orcs, because full-blooded Orcs are completely evil rape-and-pillage marauding hordes.

Not sure about Warcraft orcs, though.

[tozhma]

I just like the idea of pegging the Republican party with additional claims of racism. Honestly though, the idea of the Republican party getting pegged in general brings a smile to my face.

[Vekseid]

Orcs are supposed to be Asians, mongols, right?

Horde comes from ordu, a collection of two or more tumen, a unit of 10,000 Mongol horsemen. They were also noted for their rapacious behavior, though it didn't spread their seed much if at all.

But the tactics orcs display in just about any fantasy setting are pathetic jokes compared to the Mongols. But that's true for most fiction period.

[gaggedLouise]

*looks up Conn Iggulden, and The Secret History of the Mongols*

(not the history of their genital secretions, though)  ;)

[Stattick]

I just like the idea of pegging the Republican party with additional claims of racism. Honestly though, the idea of the Republican party getting pegged in general brings a smile to my face.

Ehhh..... I wouldn't peg the Republican Party. Most of them would like it, and we shouldn't reward their bad behavior.

[tozhma]

I think Ted Haggad gets a little more honest with each sex scandal, so with him at least, the more pegging the better.

[Oniya]

Horde comes from ordu, a collection of two or more tumen, a unit of 10,000 Mongol horsemen. They were also noted for their rapacious behavior, though it didn't spread their seed much if at all.

However, it has since lost any sort of ethnic meaning, much like 'Goth' no longer has much to do with the folks who sacked Rome.

[Valerian]

I don't know anything about WoW, but if the orcs there are supposed to be based on the Mongols, no wonder the far right doesn't like her.  Genghis Khan was one of the first leaders ever to codify the right to religious freedom for all, and I doubt the Tea Party is really on board with that notion.   ::)

[tozhma]

It's bad enough to be racist, but when you have so much ate it extends to fictional races, that's just kind of sad. *shakes head*

[Chris Brady]

It's bad enough to be racist, but when you have so much ate it extends to fictional races, that's just kind of sad. *shakes head*

Actually, the GOP has gone WORSE.  It's SPECIEIST.  Which is not a word, but they're promoting prejudice against an entire species of creatures.  :P

[tozhma]

Damn!

[Oniya]

I really want to work a pun in here using the word 'specious', but as that involves something being 'superficially pleasing' in addition to being false - yeah, got nothin'.

[Shjade]

I really want to work a pun in here using the word 'specious', but as that involves something being 'superficially pleasing' in addition to being false - yeah, got nothin'.

You've got nothing for that, really? 'Cause it sounds a lot like a description of politicians trying to convince constituencies that when they're doing something for lobbyists they're really doing it because it's the best thing for everyone.

[Oniya]

It's the 'superficially pleasing' aspect that has me hung up.  As a political argument, this is weak even for the worst politicians.

[Trieste]

Really? 'Cause Wisconsin is just ... I mean...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/roger-rivard-rape_n_1956491.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

[Tamhansen]

The default D&D books have prejudice against half-orcs, because full-blooded Orcs are completely evil rape-and-pillage marauding hordes.

Not sure about Warcraft orcs, though.

warcraft orcs were former slaves to humans after they were summoned through the dark portal by the guardian of kharazan. technically they're aliens not asians


And on another note, the senator got ganked by the GOP

[tozhma]

Really? 'Cause Wisconsin is just ... I mean...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/roger-rivard-rape_n_1956491.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

Picking my jaw up off the floor after reading that one.

[Tamhansen]

Really? 'Cause Wisconsin is just ... I mean...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/roger-rivard-rape_n_1956491.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

The way this sir may bring it may sound Vile and discriminating, I give you that.

But it does happen. I know at least one guy who was falsely accused of raping a girl. She had consented, but the next day headed for the cops because her parents found out, and she told them she was forced.
This guy had the luck that there were witnesses to her consenting, but most guys would not be if this happened.

[Ironwolf85]

Really? 'Cause Wisconsin is just ... I mean...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/roger-rivard-rape_n_1956491.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

*golum voice*
ZEE STUPID EEET BURNZ USSSS.
*end golum voice*

In all fairness he was adressing when his father told him about moments where girls will claim to have been raped to get out of trouble because they slept with billy joe out a make out point, and are now carrying a baby.

but the slogan "some girls rape easy" is going to follow that guy to his grave now, think before you speak, lest you wind up chewing leather in a non-erotic fashon.


also interisting bit from a site mod:

The underlying problem with all these comments is the belief that there is an enormous amount of women out there claiming to have been raped but who are lying, which is on it’s own, highly offensive. In every discussion about rape, the example of statutory rape where the two partners are close in age ALWAYS comes up, and it is used to de-legitimize the crime as a whole. Yes, there are grey areas of consenting individuals where a 16 year old has sex with her 18 year old boy friend; however, when taken in the context of all the teenagers out there having sex, even with someone who is of age, a tiny sliver of these will ever be treated as criminal acts. And to use those examples to characterize a heinous crime really shows the backwards attitude of many (not all) conservative men have towards women. It has been shown that rape is no more falsely reported than any other crime, but we don’t here conservative man after conservative man taking umbrage with all the people who falsely report a burglary, as if a few examples would bring everyone’s mugging into the shadow of doubt. As long as they continue to discuss a very large problem under the narrow context of only statutory rape, they will always ignore the real victimization of women. And that is why they are seen as anti-woman.

[tozhma]

I like that last quote. :)

[TheGlyphstone]

If a woman and an anti-woman touch each other, will it create a devastating explosion?

[tozhma]

An explosion of socio-political bullshitting like the world has never seen.

[Tamhansen]

So basically Indian parliament?

[Oniya]

Oh, hey...

http://blastr.com/2012/11/world-of-warcraft-player.php

...have we outgrown the gamer stigma to the point where someone who plays an MMORPG can be elected to high political office?

The answer, it seems, is a resounding yes!—as Colleen won her senate seat last night.

[Stattick]

Kewl. Now maybe she can lead a raid against the GOP.  >:)

[Chris Brady]

Kewl. Now maybe she can lead a raid against the GOP.  >:)

Why?  They don't have any good drops...  Specially not for a Rogue...

[Stattick]

Why?  They don't have any good drops...  Specially not for a Rogue...

Dude, are you kidding? They're full of money. You just whack them them until they burst, and like a piñata, they spill money everywhere. That's why you don't see those guys in poor neighborhoods.

[Skynet]

The GOP made a huge mistake in not just attacking the candidate, but the gamer subculture as well.  Over 100 million Americans have played video games, ranging from elementary school children to middle-aged people.  It shows how out of touch her opposition is with US citizens.

[Moraline]

FOR THE HORDE!

This news makes me happy. It's like a great big F@#$! U to all the old farts in politics that are stuck living in the past.

Congratulations, Colleen Lachowicz.

[Lux12]

This is stupid on so many levels. It's one thing to criticize someone for their political stances which are much more important than someone's hobbies, but to attack someone on something that does not in and of itself have any baring on the political climate of the nation is ridiculous. So what if someone in politics plays WoW? There are people in politics who make a pass time of mismanaging funds, and general abuse of power and they make a fuss over someone playing World of Warcraft. It's not like she's killing people in real life. It's fantasy for God's sake.

[Chris Brady]

Lux, congratulations, you just described the entire GOP general practice.  They can't/couldn't accuse anyone of any of that because it would be all, kettle, pot, black.

[Callie Del Noire]

Lux, congratulations, you just described the entire GOP general practice.  They can't/couldn't accuse anyone of any of that because it would be all, kettle, pot, black.

No. It is NOT the entire practice of the GOP to do this.. it IS the practice of the Party leadership. Please remember that there is a difference.

[Lux12]

Lux, congratulations, you just described the entire GOP general practice.  They can't/couldn't accuse anyone of any of that because it would be all, kettle, pot, black.

I've been studying their methods for quite some time.It's hard not to notice it.They do this every time they catch wind of something they don't like.Their strategy is based around creating smoke screens so that people soon forget the real issue.

[Chris Brady]

No. It is NOT the entire practice of the GOP to do this.. it IS the practice of the Party leadership. Please remember that there is a difference.

I meant the party, not the constituents.

[Callie Del Noire]

I meant the party, not the constituents.

SOME of the elected members aren't total tools either.

yeah.. I'm a RINO Republican these days. (Republican In Name Only.. according the the Tea Partiers who hijacked my party0

[Lux12]

SOME of the elected members aren't total tools either.

yeah.. I'm a RINO Republican these days. (Republican In Name Only.. according the the Tea Partiers who hijacked my party0

I've been seeing a lot more of those as of late. I suspect it has to do with the increasing radicalism within the party.

[Oniya]

Yup.  It's likely going to stay that way until more of the stodgy, old men at the top die off, unless someone comes out of the centrist demographic with enough charisma to pull in the saner Republicans.  I still think it's a schism waiting to happen.

[Callie Del Noire]

Yup.  It's likely going to stay that way until more of the stodgy, old men at the top die off, unless someone comes out of the centrist demographic with enough charisma to pull in the saner Republicans.  I still think it's a schism waiting to happen.

The whole reason I voted for Senator McCain in 08 was I THOUGHT that it would give him leverage to reclaim the party from the idiots. It was a hard call between him and the President. This year I had NO GOP candidates I could honestly respect enough to put in office.

Being a centrist sucks. 

[Lux12]

Yup.  It's likely going to stay that way until more of the stodgy, old men at the top die off, unless someone comes out of the centrist demographic with enough charisma to pull in the saner Republicans.  I still think it's a schism waiting to happen.

Indeed. I've been thinking the same thing for some time.However I don't believe I could ever support that party after some of the things they've done.I'm honestly hoping for one or two of the third party groups to rise  to prominence so at the very least we aren't left with this obnoxious partisan deadlock. So that they might balance things out.

[Chris Brady]

SOME of the elected members aren't total tools either.

Sorry man, as long as the Tea Party nuts are in charge, they ARE the GOP.

yeah.. I'm a RINO Republican these days. (Republican In Name Only.. according the the Tea Partiers who hijacked my party

You have my sincerest sympathies, though.  It sucks when your ideology is under attack by the people who used to represent you.

[Callie Del Noire]

Sorry man, as long as the Tea Party nuts are in charge, they ARE the GOP.

You have my sincerest sympathies, though.  It sucks when your ideology is under attack by the people who used to represent you.

And it's that broad brushing, rather than examining officials individually, that undercuts the social moderates with folks outside the party.  Sorry, I'm a firm judge of judging the person by their own sins. 

Case in point, the complete LACK of backbone that Sen McCain has shown in the last 2 years.  Total lack of respect. The withdrawal of true statesmen (or in this case STATESWOMEN) like Olympia Snow. Regret that service to her country and being a true leader in a party of lackspittle jackasses is rewarded by betrayal and backstabbing. She deserved better.

[Lux12]

This is one of the reasons George Washington warned against the formation of political parties. He believed that factionism would eventually tear the country apart and lead to divides that would create a political climate unfavorable for anyone in the country.

[Skynet]

This is one of the reasons George Washington warned against the formation of political parties. He believed that factionism would eventually tear the country apart and lead to divides that would create a political climate unfavorable for anyone in the country.

Given the way candidates act, we'd do this anyway.  Adams and Jefferson gave birth to negative campaigning, but genuine disagreements of policies and a shared desire to gain the Presidency were instrumental in creating a negative atmosphere and us versus them mentality.

[Lux12]

Given the way candidates act, we'd do this anyway.  Adams and Jefferson gave birth to negative campaigning, but genuine disagreements of policies and a shared desire to gain the Presidency were instrumental in creating a negative atmosphere and us versus them mentality.

True.Humans are bound to band together with like minded individuals no matter what measures are taken to prevent factionism, but I think it begins a much greater problem when we codify or formalize certain groups.

[sirtree]

You play golf how dare you! You rich time wasting scum! Ya just about the same thing.

[Oniya]

You play golf how dare you! You rich time wasting scum! Ya just about the same thing.

Except golf courses have exclusive memberships.  Blizzard only cares if you can fork over whatsit - $20 a month?  And that's only if you want to go over a certain level, if I remember right.  ;D

[sirtree]

Also I fail to see how this is modern.... Been in politics for a while now. Also it's like golf in that your attacking a person that enjoys a certain pursuit if its gambling, playing Wow, or whatever examples you comE up with it is a excuse to attack a persons character regardless if it is golf or... Idk fishing. Or eating sail fish or attacking a bear in skyrim (a much better game)

[Callie Del Noire]

Except golf courses have exclusive memberships.  Blizzard only cares if you can fork over whatsit - $20 a month?  And that's only if you want to go over a certain level, if I remember right.  ;D

Yeah.. they don't care what church you go to.. if your name ends in 'stien' or anything else besides 'your check didn't bounce..welcome..'

[sirtree]

Well 20 bucks form a poor man is worth as much as 20 bucks from bill gates and on the up side you will ne'er meet the person if your blizzard heheh

[Chris Brady]

 

And it's that broad brushing, rather than examining officials individually, that undercuts the social moderates with folks outside the party.  Sorry, I'm a firm judge of judging the person by their own sins. 

Case in point, the complete LACK of backbone that Sen McCain has shown in the last 2 years.  Total lack of respect. The withdrawal of true statesmen (or in this case STATESWOMEN) like Olympia Snow. Regret that service to her country and being a true leader in a party of lackspittle jackasses is rewarded by betrayal and backstabbing. She deserved better.

Personally, I am judging them individually as I am reminded of an old quote:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Edmund Burke
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)   

Until one or some of your claimed moderates do something about the Tea Party leadership, they are, to me, just as culpable.  Maybe I am being overly judgmental, but at the same time, the amount of hate and vitriol spewed by these people during this election was outright disgusting.

I want to point out that I do agree that some of the GOP might be good men and women, but until they do something about the bad ones...

Given the way candidates act, we'd do this anyway.  Adams and Jefferson gave birth to negative campaigning, but genuine disagreements of policies and a shared desire to gain the Presidency were instrumental in creating a negative atmosphere and us versus them mentality.

True.Humans are bound to band together with like minded individuals no matter what measures are taken to prevent factionism, but I think it begins a much greater problem when we codify or formalize certain groups.

What people don't seem to realize or acknowledged is that we're a tribal species, we gather into these little groupings, or we put them into labelled cliques, the Jocks, the Popular Kids, the Geeks, to use High School, but they're totally translatable to mote adult groupings, Sports Stars, Celebrities and...  Well, OK us Geeks never really get away from that label...

And worse we all attribute certain characteristics to these groups, accurately or not.  It's instinctive, which doesn't make it right, but it is incredibly common and will be part of every day life.  No matter how wrong it truly is, it's what humans do.

[LunarSage]

Except golf courses have exclusive memberships.  Blizzard only cares if you can fork over whatsit - $20 a month?  And that's only if you want to go over a certain level, if I remember right.  ;D

Actually, most golf courses are public.  Country Clubs do have exclusive memberships (more a factor of money than anything else), but anyone can golf at the public courses.

Just sayin'  :P

[Oniya]

Actually, most golf courses are public.  Country Clubs do have exclusive memberships (more a factor of money than anything else), but anyone can golf at the public courses.

Just sayin'  :P

Shows how often I play golf that doesn't involve little windmills.  ;)

My experience with golf of the other sort is limited to the sportscasters effusing over Tiger Woods, and a scene in Rising Sun where Sean Connery's character is confronted over accepting a golf membership (over $1,000 value), and asked how it's different from a (couple hundred dollar) bribe that Wesley Snipes' character took in his past.

[Lux12]

I will  have lost all faith in humanity if they start accusing her of using tax dollars to pay for this... The sad part is I think they'd do it.

[Oniya]

But think of it this way:  political backstabbing is now so much cleaner!

[LunarSage]

Well she won, so her DPS was obviously greater than her noob opponent's.   ;)

[TheGlyphstone]

Maybe her budgetary plan involves shoring up revenue shortfalls via gold farming?

[Oniya]

Well, that would at least be money coming in from China!  *rimshot*

[Stattick]

Shows how often I play golf that doesn't involve little windmills.  ;)

That's the only kind of golf I'll play.

[TheGlyphstone]

That's the only kind of golf I'll play.

Wait, there's another kind of golf?

[Stattick]

Wait, there's another kind of golf?

Yeah, apparently there's the "Go fetch" version. You hit the ball really hard. Then you slowly walk around until you find it. Then you hit it really hard again. You do this at a park while wearing really ugly clothes... um... because you hate nature or something? Sometimes you get hit by lightening because nature hates you back.

[Oniya]

'Golf is a nice walk spoiled.' - attr. Mark Twain.

[Avis habilis]

Wait, there's another kind of golf?

Frisbee.

[Stattick]

Frisbee.

There's always disc golf, the unholy marriage of golf and frisbee.

[TheGlyphstone]

If Golf was more like Hockey, it might actually be interesting to watch.

[Oniya]

Two-stroke penalty for fighting?

[TheGlyphstone]

Two-stroke penalty for fighting?

Two strokes with which club?

[Stattick]

Two strokes with which club?

Definitely a wood.

[Lux12]

I was going to say a 9 iron.

[Avis habilis]

If Golf was more like Hockey, it might actually be interesting to watch.

Golf needs more body checks & high sticking. *nod*

[Stattick]

Golf would actually be interesting if it went back to it's origins. It needs more kilts, claymores, screaming Scotsmen, and blood fertilizing the fields.

[Avis habilis]

"They may take our lives, but they'll never take a Mulligan!"

[Lux12]

Golf would actually be interesting if it went back to it's origins. It needs more kilts, claymores, screaming Scotsmen, and blood fertilizing the fields.

*Raises up a goblet of scotch then chugs*Aye! Let us woad our faces, strap our dirks to our hips, raise up our claymores and bring hell to our oppressors brother Scotts!

Seriously though, I am part Scottish and part English.If all my ancestors got put in a room with each other it would not end well. X_X

[LunarSage]

I like to play golf.  Well I used to when I was able to stand for that long (though I suppose I could always rent a golf cart).  I do not, however get the appeal of watching golf on TV.  Or Hockey.  Or Baseball.  Or Basketball.  Or College Football. 

Come to think of it, I only really like to watch pro football, and then only if the Dolphins or the Seahawks are playing.

OT:  The GOP shouldn't have griefed.  Now her opponent got himself a ban until next election.  He's gonna miss out on some epic loot.

[Lux12]

The only sporting event I ever really watch is the Olympics.

[Oniya]

I can 'get' any fast moving sport.  Golf, too slow.  Baseball on TV is even pushing it (although I usually follow the stats), but there are at least those times when someone is racing the ball to the plate.  Cycling is probably the slowest-paced sport that I will go out of my way to watch, but there's a certain... aesthetic factor in play, there.   O:)

[Lilias]

Tight bottoms in tight shorts. :P

On the other hand, I ogle gymnasts all the time, so...

[Stattick]

I'm unusual for a guy; I pretty much have zero interest in sports.

[Lux12]

I'm unusual for a guy; I pretty much have zero interest in sports.

I'm pretty much the same and I get rather annoyed when people go on about it in my presence.

[Avis habilis]

Chess boxing all the way, yo.

[Lux12]

Chess boxing all the way, yo.

This needs to be in the Olympics.

[Lilias]

I know my son would love to do Quidditch at school. ;)

[Skynet]

I'm unusual for a guy; I pretty much have zero interest in sports.

Join the club!  Things like football and baseball just don't grab me.