Willing to GM a 3.5 DnD Game of 10th level characters in a homebrew world.

[Darthninja]

I've got all kinds of good stuff for this game.  It's entirely of my creation though - and yes, there is some room for some furries, but only of the feline and tiger varieties.  If I get enough interest here on this message, I'll post some more of the game's information.  Right now though, I just want to see if there is enough interest for a 10th level game.

[Ellyssa]

Mmm. Call me a sucker for D&D games, but a possibly here, though depending exactly on theme. :) I'm sure you will have the numbers though!

[Purple]

I'm a sucker, too!  I personally am not into furries...so that part's not for me.  But I'm definately a sucker.  Count me in if my second sentence doesn't boot me out.  :)

*hugs darthninja*

[indarkestknight]

*raises hand* I'd like to see more info, but I'll probably be wiling to give this a spin.

[Muse]

Ooh!  Ooh!  Count me in! 

[Zaer Darkwail]

I am intrested also. I have idea for Flind gnoll (MMIII) ranger/bloodhound :). So if canine furry does not scare of I would likely play this. Also I could play also a pure Catfolk (a race whit feline looks, found in Races of Wild) rogue/swashbuckler/Dread Pirate.

[National Acrobat]

I might be interested after seeing more info and details on the game.

[Jefepato]

I might be interested.  I do love a good D&D game.

[LadyFox]

Interested here.... love to find out what kinds of other races are available, so as to have a nice set of options.  I like having unusual characters....

[WarDragon]

*raises hand* I'd like to see more info, but I'll probably be wiling to give this a spin.

Ditto here.

Any restrictions on books?  And... how do you feel about "scalies," as opposed to furries?  >_>

[Rin]

I would be interested as well. Mmm.. D&D!

[WarDragon]

...Hello?

[Timiko]

I may be interested.

[Alkahest]

I'm up for it if there's room.

[National Acrobat]

Looks like a lot of interested players so far...

[indarkestknight]

Every once and a while I find it useful to use the "Last Active" part of the profile. He hasn't been on since May 17th. Something probably came up in RL. Mind you, coming back to find lots of interested players is probably nice, but until he comes back (if he's able to, which I hope he is), we should probably leave this thread be.

[Kandice Kaine]

It seems, GlabrezuBane, that you enjoy a good D&D game and so do I. I'd be more than willing to join this game, and probably one or two others I think you're running. Send me a PM or let me know here, either way, ok?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hmmm, I am tempted to start DnD game if there are SO many intrested join one. Anycase I want use diea what everyone likes so give up suggestions what sort fo game you want play in DnD whit touch of sex (but not as main element).

[Lirliel]

I'd be up for it.. adventuring in a party's always nice so I'd pretty much be up for that. Don't matter much what type of party, Evi/Good/Neutral aligned.

[Purple]

I can't play evil at all...but neutral or good is great.  I like all aspects of DnD so I have no preference Zaer.  Fighting, puzzles, RP, all of it...which books would/would not be allowed.  And in the Realms (please, please, please) or homebrew or what?  I'll take any setting, I just love FR. 

[Lirliel]

oh.. FR prefered indeed, probably be playing a Hardy Dwarf, been a while since I played one of the bearded folk ;)

[Zaer Darkwail]

I have alot sources for FR and neutral and good parties (champiosn of Valor comes to mind). You Liriel could be dwarf woman, a Valkyre (the special substitution levels in dwarven paladins) but of course I do not press this, just idea what popped in my mind :). Anycase I cna do FR and I ahve a ongooign FR game but so far everyone is on their invidual threads but I can open new game whit focus as group.

But I tought idea.....how sounds 'Heroic Heroines and Vile Villains'? In that whole 'good party' is women only and bad guys would be men and both are so called 'champions' of the extreme alingment anxis. Of course we can fix this up so that there are both men and female in both good and evil but each side must have same number of male and female characthers. We of course follow DnD rules for conflicts and rules generally but we leave into roleplay the 'sexual encounters' between good and evil.

Also do not forget that a Sune paladin's worst weapon vs evil can be love. No better way defeat evil than seduce it and turn good side XD. While opposite there is evil seductress who does same tactic. This was example how two personality different group behaves similar fashion.

[Purple]

How about a Favored Soul of Sune...that sounds intriguing...

[Lirliel]

Hmmm.. I would play a dwarf woman, and if you'd explain to me what a Valkyre is exactly I'd might be intrested in doing one (que for PM me).

Uh... your ideas sounds fine to me, though considering, I might actually be tempted to switch over to the Vile Villian side. After all.. I tend to be drawn more into the darkside of life, maybe a Bane priest? (after all he did return ;))

Though the evil seducctres doesn't sound bad neither! But whatever your descision Zaer, feel free to write me name up ;)

[Zaer Darkwail]

It does yes and drives same concept ;). Anycase we need see are there willing people to play both evil and good guys to make this work, both sides posting frequently of course.

Anycase I speak of Berronar Valkyrie subsitution levels. They have requirement that PC must be dwarf woman, main deity being Berronar Truesilver and be female. In their religious duty thes paladins go rescue seriously wounded dwarven male soldiers from heat of the battle and have special abilities vs oathbreakers. The levles are taked in 3, 4 and 6lvl and features are;

3lvl: Everbrigth blessing; Valkyrie's armor, shield and primary weapon are treated to ahve Everbright quality (Immune to acid and rust, shine like polished silver and gives Acid Resistance 5 to armor or shield wearer). This feature replaces Divine Health class feature. Of course weapons and armor which valkyrie drops lose this special quality until she picks them up again.

4lvl: Valiant Rescue; Valkyrie can charge 3 + Cha bonus times per day so that she haves (or her mount) haves mobility feat and can perform full attack onto charged target instead single attack. This feature replaces Turn Undead ability.

6lvl: Binding Oath; Once per week (plus one more times each three levels after 6) can do binding oath between two willing inviduals (or legal agreement). This makes all parties involved to know when the oath or agreement is broken anyway. Secondly this makes the oath/agreement breaker fatiqued at 1 day/valkyrie paladin level for breaking the oath/agreement.
Touch of Fatique; Beeronar Valkyrie can use this ability by will and they use it mostly only if someone who plans stray of path, break promise or do morally questionable act. Save DC of this spell-alike ability is 10 + Valkyrie's Cha bonus.

I agree however that Liriel would make excelent villain :). She can be devout worshipper of Shar (fits for dark seductress role), a Gazz'tz worshipping sorcerror (Gazz'tz is called Dark prince and is msot sensual and carnal pleasure approving demon lord) or cleric of Loviatar (mistress of pain) or evne female drow cleric of Lolth or bit roguish cleric of Vhaeraun.

[Lirliel]

*Smiles at the talk of lovitar* I once played a dark knight under her :) But for the most part I think I'll side with a worshipper of Shar. I'd have to get some more information on the goddess, but *looks at her FR book* think that can be arranged fairly easily :)

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, Shar is very well writen goddess and there is alot information and class potentials for that. I have played even Shar worshipping Bard/Dirgesinger/Assassin/Evangelist. Evangelist fits for church drived converters (class is from Complete Divine) and would fit for seductress of Shar.

[Lirliel]

I'd probably pick Half-drow to be a cleric of Shar, going with a Brd6/Ass4

[Zaer Darkwail]

Aha, okay. I myself have gamed often whit half-drow illusionist/Shadow adept :P. Anycase I can recomend some feats for bardic Shar follower, one example being Doomspeak (gives -10 pen to all rolls to foe for 1 round via using bardic music. Will save based).

[Lirliel]

Hmm... on the other hand... Rogue does seem to have its upper points... hmm jup going rogue.. what are the most common Shar followers, humans right?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yep, most common and so are enbittered half-elves/half-drows and of course also the Shade worship Shar.

[Lirliel]

And where are most of her worshippers based?

Wait a sec... there is a monastic order of Shar isn't there?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yep, Darkmoon Monastery of Sorcerror/Monks. Would think Enlightened Fist (a PrC from Complete Arcana which combines sorcery skills and monk traits and be able erupt fists into flames or electricity by sacraficing spell slot and get other arcane skills) would be popular in there.

Also in Power of Faerun is introduced a heretical order called Dark Moon Order which belives that Selune and Shar are merely faces of one same deity. In that Selune is Shar and Shar is Selune. Members can be any neutral (not NG or NE however) and use favoured weapon of any deity and have domains picked from both goddesses domains (not all but some).

[Zaer Darkwail]

Oh, also Shar haves no any centre of worship but cells of worship. it depends what class you pick up because Shar haves it's on specialized shells.

[Lirliel]

Then I'd have to still go with Rogue/Assassin, not that hot on Sorcerers.. or spellcasters of that matter. I tend to find them a bit hard to play somehow :S

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, but is not assassin a spellcaster? It gets list of spells after all ;). Also I allow Beguiler coreclass. A rogue/sorcerror illussion specialist from PHB2 and haves same skill selection as rogue does, same hp and profiency and good will saves. But whit no sneak attack but haves dozen good class features, including to learn silent and still spell metamagic feats in 10lvl.

[Lirliel]

He has a few spells, but not the whole lot that for example a sorcerer or cleric gets to pick from. I find it quite difficult to pick from spelllists, and most of the assasins are normal and you can use them almost every time. Not like some or the cleric spells, which you take with you for just that occasion.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Then you want avoid headache of from picking the spells :). Good side whit beguiler si that they have set spells known and they cna cast any spells what they know like sorcerror but they know automatically all spells form the spell level what they get.

[Lirliel]

Hmmm... well I'll stick with Assasin still.. somehow it just appeals to me. I like sneaking into peoples houses and sliding a knife into there neck. *Needs to play the female version of Artemis Entreri :P*

[Zaer Darkwail]

Argh! Female version of Artemis Enteri would be cold blooded emotionless bitch who takes only release from sex whit no emotional attachment and haves heck big ego about combat skills and kills anyone who threatens her anyway :P. To play Enteri you would need figther levels, at least six and then two rogue levels and then assassin levels if you want follow same concept of assassin what Enteri is. Altough rogue/assassin is fine also.

[Lirliel]

Jup.. perhaps funny encounter walking up to Enteri himself, "I am the world's best fighter!" *my character* "No I am!", *cut in fight sequence :P But I'll not make her the emotionless bitch that Artemis is. And plus, he isn't anymore not when he met Jaraxle.

But I'll stick with the rogue/assasin skills for now, and I'm gonna stop blabbermouthing before we get way off topic ;)

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yeh, anyone else intrested join is? Liriel and Purple so far have intrested to join in :).

[RubySlippers]

Well I'd play. Not sure but no evil people and I'm much more of a role-player than into fighting and all for me gaming is about hanging out with friends.

Not sure about starting at 10th level though its kind of high?

So it kind of depends.

[indarkestknight]

*raises hand*

Good guy. Not sure on build, though. What books would be approved for use? It'd help me narrow it down to fewer concepts.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Well, 10lvl may appear much but in Faerun 10lvl you can actually go some serious dungeons in groups and affect people more in personall power and influence in kingdoms or get assistance for heroic deeds etc. Also many woud be able reach PrC and have levels in it instead being 'beginner assassin this and that'. But to avoid power builds (or too flexible) I would rule only max 3 class combo builds to focus people into certain field (and PrC are included in that count). Only expections are handfull PrC who need mroe than two classes combos like Focluchan Lyrist (or Harpist whatever) whcih needed combination of 3-4 classes to qualify :P.

I have BIG collection of books, list would go;

All core books
PHBII&DMGII
MM II&III
All Complete Series
All race books
Exalted Deeds and Vile Darkness books
Expanded Psionics
Heroes of Battle&Horror
Sword&Fist (some adjustment needed for some classes)
Stronghold Builder's Guide
Spell Compendium

And I have alots Faerun books;
FRCS
Races of Faerun
Player's Guide to Faerun
Faiths and Pantheons
Power of Faerun
Magic of Faerun
Mosnter Compendium; Faerun
Lost Kingdoms of Faerun
Champions of Valor
Champions of Ruin
Lords of Darkness
Underdark

Also I likely forgot a book or two but these are the most what I have.

[indarkestknight]

What's your ruling on the feat requirements for Invisible Blade?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Well, I have always thinked to them be weird for melee specialist so I rule generally that you can use the printed version or Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (Dagger, Kukri, punching dagger) and Combat Expertice.

[Kandice Kaine]

I am soooooo in for this..

But do you have room for a Celebrant of Sharess...? *giggles and swishes tail idly*

[National Acrobat]

I am definately interested, but I like to have a certain amount of combat to balance out the RP at times. Whatever is needed, is fine with me to play.

[Zaer Darkwail]

I will add combat sure, I balance mostly rpg and combat whit egual measure because I like combat challenges and also add tactical posibillity to cobmats (like cut the canderlier rope fall onto the soldiers etc) and also some puzzle solving some cases but not alot. Also we DO use rolls for grapple mods in rape scenes in evil side etc (so there cna be PC vs PC combat but would appreciate more in not killing the other PC but take it as slave or as possible convert). Also I allow GUCK site rules to be used, link is here; http://www.netbook-of-uck.net/online.htm

[National Acrobat]

Alright, sounds good. I'd be interested for sure.

However, I will warn you guys that on the weekends there may be little to no posting from me, as my newborn is a preemie and weekend time is reserved for family and spending time with her.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, at moment we ahve one good guy (Glabrezubane), two good lasses (Rubyslippers&Kandice Kaine) and one bad lass (Liriel). So we need a bad guy and one bad lass for the evil team before I can even start so advertise people and ask around :).

[Purple]

Wait! Don't forget me.  :)  Favored soul of Sune.

[indarkestknight]

Thought you said the good characters would be all female, Zaer? Decided to change that?

[National Acrobat]

I'd prefer to play good myself, so I might reconsider. I'm not all that thrilled with evil characters.

[Muse]

::pounce!:: 

Ooh, ooh, may I play? 

I'm almost back on my feet and ready for normal participation. 

Either a good gal: 

Lusitania Devotion:  Sun Elf Female Ranger 2/Elf Paragon 3/Wizard 1/Harper Paragon 4, Neutral Good, Chaotic Tendencies. 

Or, evil, a worshiper of Bane (Requires Book of Erotic Fantasy, thouhgh.) 
Asheel (Lawful evil half gold dragon, half human, worshiper of Bane):  Barbarian 3, Tantrist 3, Rage Mage 1:

[Zaer Darkwail]

Thought you said the good characters would be all female, Zaer? Decided to change that?

Well, to allow some women play their 'evil sides' (mostly influenced by Liriel ;)) I am opened both sides open to gender but both sides must have same amount of genders and players generally (not including cohorts). Ok, sorry Purple, you can spank me from being such arrogant as forget you :). I welcome more players as it seems this game would seme become crowded. I do not ahve Book of Erotic Fantasy so any material from there must be PM'ed to me and approved but Tantrist is in in GUCK site so if it is similar to one in there then it is okay.

Ok, so far in evil side there is only Liriel and most the rest are good guys, is anyone intrested play evil so that Liriel would not feel so lonely? Or should I make her as 20lvl char whit alot minions which she commands and plans take over the world (joking) :P.

[Purple]

Hmmmm...I would not be so bold quite yet as to spank anyone in a public place.  But the offer is quite tempting Zaer.  :)

[Kandice Kaine]

If it would make it any easier, I'd be glad to play a villainess. *smiles wickedly*

[Zaer Darkwail]

Well it would help ;). Anycase we seem have somewhere a one guy in good side, rest are women and two women in evil side.....

[Kandice Kaine]

Mmm... Something... slutty... I like slutty... HMmm... Maybe I'll do a follower of Mask... a Rake. A spy who sleeps around to get the information she needs from pillow-talkers...

Hehe, I could even seduce a guard or two to allow the villains to get into a tower...
The only part of that I'd have a problem with is killing the guards during or afterwards...

Hmmm... Maybe I'll just play a were-creature and get it over with, Mmm? Something Feral and slinky...

Unless anyone has a suggestion they'd like me to play? As long as it has the potential for absolute wanton sexuality I'd be more than willing to take... all... come... ers.

*giggles* Just lay it on me!

[National Acrobat]

How about an evil follower of the Red Knight, who is trying to reconcile his beliefs with the obvious taint of evil? Obviously that might be difficult to manage, but could provide interesting counterpoint to the campaign and rp opps.

I think I can manage LE as a character, as that would still provide some organization and code to follow.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Bane is good god in Faerun because it is flexible, it only ask you spread your fear of bane to others and obey him and not fail in your tasks. Bit militaristic tough. Another is worshipper of Loviatar who is background wise a corrupted noble who ahves kink for whips and being dominant and also plain rogue follower of Mask or Vhaeraun (later if you are half-drow, drow or VERY bad elf).

Also fey'ri is good for villain who wants do seduction but they are quite aloof folk but some who are more succubus descendent can be naughty, like examply alu-fiend elf. Of course you do not need kill the guards,merely disable or worst convert them into evil (like true corrupter and tempter does) and this alter one can be played whit CE person who uses her 'sexual favoured' followers as cannon fobber. Examply Xena used sex as tool motivate her men and I think when she was evil she was straight out CE whit some moral code not kill children and women when she raided.

CE after all does not mean lack of rules, it is about impulsivness and emotion and CE are impulsive and emotionall and so they cna ahve the rules but they have no obligations keep them but some do whole their lives follow certain code or rule.

[National Acrobat]

So..are you suggesting that I play a follower of Bane?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Well, it is my suggestion and so not a rule ;). But also LE Red Knight follower would not be bad either.

[Kandice Kaine]

Oooo... I forgot I had the PHB 2... Mmm... Could be fun...

Hey, Zaer. Any objections to a Beguiler or Duskblade?

Or if you have the Unearthed Arcana: The Druidic Avenger class alteration.. Could be a -very- fun little honey to play. Ask National Acrobat about my Feral Femme Fatale... he should remember... Right, Aramil? *grins*

Another major option for me: The Warlock. I've never played one before, but call me kooky if demon-trafficking isn't the mark of one evil bitch... And fucking said Demons marks her as Vile, no?

[Zaer Darkwail]

I allow beguilers, duskblades, warlocks and also avenger druids :). I would suggest however that Sorcerror whit demon bloodline feats (tiefling perhaps) would be cool also but tiefling warlock is good also and yes, screwing whit demons willingly and do perverted acts whit them is considered evil and some cases vile. One big ideas for myself is to try oce play a female sorcerror of Gazz'azt whit demon bloodline feats and then take levels as acolyte of skin :D.

[Kandice Kaine]

The tiefling idea calls out to me, too... Moreso than some of the others. But I'd still rather try the Warlock, hehe...

Oh, and definately fucking Demons, too! Maybe I should take the PrC Thrall of Graz'zt?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yep, it could be intresting but note that you can be both tiefling AND warlock ;).

[National Acrobat]

Yeah, I know about your 'Femme Fatale'. Heh, heh.

Alright, how about a Ftr2/Mage5/Elven Paragon 3 servant of Bane?

[indarkestknight]

Tempted to play both on the good and the bad side...

For now, though, my good character will be a male human Rog 5/Invisible Blade 5.

Zaer, how do you want to determine ability scores, items, etc?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yeah, I know about your 'Femme Fatale'. Heh, heh.

Alright, how about a Ftr2/Mage5/Elven Paragon 3 servant of Bane?

I find elf quite bit illogical to be follower of bane so I expect GOOD background story for it and not any normal tragedies change elven nature that much! Mostly elves pay respect to human gods but still they follow elven pantheon in their hearts despite fi theya re cleric of Sune examply.

Hmm, I think gear is according the level but only one item can cost 50% while rest can only cost 25% of starting wealth and everyone gets 3,000 extra XP for crafting or permamency spells and those who do nto use it get it as generall extra XP for quicker level up. Stats would be made by point buy method, 32pts plus two stat point increases iin 4&8lvl plus racial or template modifiers. I can give some LA leeway to either side (if I like the concept) and also LA point buy method is possible.

[National Acrobat]

I dunno, I don't see how hard it would be if one were evil and bitter. There are no elven gods to worship if you're evil and the Seldarine doesn't accept evil worshippers, so I'd imagine being evil and an elf automatically means that you have to find your patron elsewhere. I could be wrong on that account, and perhaps could be a follower of Asmodeous or something.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Elait Craulnober is evil elf as it can go and he even pays attention to Seldarine altough he does not pray at all nor visit churches or is otherwise devoit but the moment of redeeming in moonblade hints that even most dissarray child of Corellon Larethian can be welcomed so long the invidual does not forsake all virtues being a elf and Elaith pays attention and evne enjoys many of elven traditions. One way to make very fallen elf is to make a elf which worships Vhaeraun, a drow god and only drow god who allows non-drows as his worshippers.

Also a fallen Champion of Corellon Larethian (a PrC form Races of the Wild) is possible and I think the evil elves as missguided elves whit storngly unrational views for a elf. Examply the special organization the 'Glorious Blade of the People' (it was Veluuthra something) is evil elf organization and it's sole purpose is to slay so many humans and half-elves and other 'unpure' elves so many as possible and altough Evermeet would ahve resources kill every member of the organization it does not do so. Reason being that in way the organizations goal was intended only for good of the elves but it is very unrational so Evermeet does not support (altough many invidual noble fmailies do so secretly) nor oppose it (altough invidual elves are possible).

So, in a way try think how your characther is still a elf but it is bad to the core. Demon worship is oneway to make elf fall form grace completely, in similar way how Dlargareth house (the fey'ri founder house) did and theya re nto considered 'elves' by right wise and would be killed on sight.

[indarkestknight]

Any requests for villians? Specific kinds, I mean.

[National Acrobat]

I'll go with Demon worship then. I'll probably pick one of the Thrall types from the BoVD.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Well, Liriel is storngly intrested to be rogue, while Acrobat is probally spellcaster (most Thralls either favour or demand spellcasting ability) so plain fighter or somesort evil knight type would be good in villain side :).

[National Acrobat]

It'll be sorceror 7/Thrall of G'rzzat 3. I'll work on it at home tonight.

[Zaer Darkwail]

OK, that sounds good concept. As side note I house rule that Sorcerror's get in 1lvl a bonus feat. Either a Eschew Materials or Spell Thematics (later one from Player's Guide to Faerun) and each 5lvl sorcerror gets heritage feat (draconic, celestial or fiendish like in PHB2 the two laters are introduced). Also in PHB2 you likely know that sorcerror's can get metamagic feat mastery instead of familiar :).

[National Acrobat]

I don't have the PHB2 though. Is there a list of those feats somewhere that I can look at?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Not online but I cna PM details when I am home and I ahve access to comp and books. But generally the fiendish heritage feat firstly gives a bonsu to saves vs poison and fire egual to your fiendish heritage feats, protection from good added to spells known plus +2 CL when summoning evil outsider or fiendish creatures. Then there is options to pick up other heritage feats. One gives number of spells added to your list, one gives resistance vs acid and electricity x2 per heritage feat what you have, other gives access to special sonic attack (30'ft cone, damage egual 2d6 x sacraficed spell slot level, ref save for half) and other gives ability see in mundane and magicall darkness (lasting 10 mins x sacraficed spell slot).

The metamagic feat mastery replaces your familiar whit ability to use metamagic feats spontaneously whitout increased usage of time and allows use Quicken Spell metamagic feat whit no pens.

[indarkestknight]

A dark ranger, perhaps? A... stalker, even? *evil grin*

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, ranger is fine too. Follower of Malar perhaps ;).

[Muse]

Hm...  I'm still torn between hero and villain. 

Do you have a better handle on what you need more of yet, Zaer? 

[Zaer Darkwail]

At moment I am confused how many there are in good side (and who are still intrested) but I think there is two bad girls and one bad guy and I start game after there is three people on either side whit same amount of genders. So can people post now (rollcall) and say waht they want play so I can write up who is who's side and playing what concept :).

[National Acrobat]

Elven Sorceror 7/Thrall of G'rzzt 3

Bad.

[Zaer Darkwail]

The name is Thrall of Graz'zt ;).

[Kandice Kaine]

Mmm... I hate to give up the Thrall of Graz'zt... But as Acrobat's planning it I think I'll go for a Summoning/Evoker focused Tiefling Sorceror or a Warlock.... Probably the Warlock, I really enjoy the idea of the Warlock with supernatural laws applied to it... But your options for the Sorc are great too! *cries* I think it'll be a hit die issue.


Ok.... Do me a favor: Liriel. Decide for me? *giggles* I'm so wishy washy!

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hmmm, thiefling warlock is nice indeed ;). Also some PrC suit well for warlock, examply Acolyte of Skin. Or you cna be different sort of sorcerror, example Sorcerror/Fiend Blood (later PrC is from Heroes of Horror who makes minor mental changes to transform you into fiend and also gives some stat boosts and gives able smite foes to do greater damage).

Also actually Summoner/Evoker concept is better whit Cleric/Thaumaturgist and evil group would be needing a cleric and so you could pick Summoning Domain (wich gives access numerous summon mosnter spells as domain spells, including planar ally, plus cast summoning spells greater CL) and other domain from Diabolical/Demonic domain towards one fo the demon lords like Graz'zt or just generall servant of Abyss or just ambittious summoner. One intresting concept I used ocne was half-dragon thefling who was spawn of Hellfang wyrm and devil and worshipper Tiamat.

[Kandice Kaine]

Actually I've pretty well decided now what I'll do.

Tiefling Sorceror, focusing on Conjuration with some small degree of Evocation. Main use is to bring in Bodyguards for the Party.

Sure, a cleric can heal the party, but how about summoning other targets for the enemies to fight?

"There is no problem that cannot be solved by hurling minions at!"

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, I asume you pikc up the Fiendish Ancestory whcih gives +2 to CL when summoning fiendish or evil outsiders whit summon spells right? Spell Focus; Conjuration and Augment Summoning sound nice combo to such role ;). Extend spell then of course increase the duration of the summoning spells. Also good Conjuration spells are Orb of ??? spells from Complete Arcana and from PHB Melf's Acid Arrow is nice one too.

But I point out that Warlock haves invocation called Dead Walk, which means animated dead spell which cna raise dead fight for you, even whitout costly spell component, for 1 min per level. Also I can allow custom made Warlock invocation whcih allows summon a creature like whit Summon Monster III spell but total HD what you can summon whit spell would be egual to twice your warlock level and you can summon only fiendish creatures or creatures of your alignment only.

But summoning sorc is good too :). Nothing wrong whit that ;).

[Kandice Kaine]

Hmmm Augment Summoning and Fiendish Heritage sound great... Not really focusing on the orb ofs. I'll probably go with AoE evocations. That's more in line with an uncaring bitch who uses her minions as fodder and has no problem sacrificing them... Of course, I could use Energy substitution to alter the damage to something my summoned creatures are immune to.... *giggles*

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yep, Energy Substitution is handy but if you take later on levels as Archmage I would not recomend waste a feat and rather use metamagic wands mimick energy type what your summoned minions ar resistant or immune. Also if you pikc a Domain access (was it Religious Caster or Arcane Schooling feat etc) via using feat and get Planar Ally spell (either summoning domain or other domain) and then you can qualify as ARCANIST into Thaumaturge PrC from DMG. After all planar Ally is one very powerfull spells to use to get outsider as ally.

[Muse]

So that's two badies so far. 

Please sign me up for a good girl: Lusitania Devotion: 
Ranger 2, Wizard 1, Paragon Elf 3, Harper Paragon 4. 

[indarkestknight]

One good, one evil, both male.

CG Human Rog 5/Invisible Blade 5

And a CE ranger of undetermined type. Possibly shifter. Though I'm beginning to lean towards a changeling Rog 5/Cabinet Trickster 5... So much fun to be had with detect thoughts at will and change self powers... Head games... Hrmmm...

[National Acrobat]

I can change my character Kandice if you would rather play the Thrall. I'm pretty flexible.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, THREE bad galls, one good gal and one good/evil flexible player. Hmm, becuase there are so many women I may give flexibillity in genders so that groups do not need be egual gender...but egual number in each side at least lol!

[National Acrobat]

My PC is going to be male, that much is sure. I was just offering Kandice the chance to play the Thrall if that's what was wanted, otherwise I'll keep the same character concept.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Aha, so fiendish ancestory possesed male sorc yes :). Hmm, evil side seems gather sorcs....especially ones who seem follow Graz'zt.

[Lirliel]

I'd be willing to switch! A Dwarf Fighter/Dwarven Defender :) Build

[Zaer Darkwail]

NO! You keep your sexy rogue assassin class combo XD! I have hard time find dwarf women sexuall attractive......even whit my dirty imagination which is well detailed!

[Purple]

Quick question Zaer.  How do you feel about Wood Elves, and do you use the 3.5 stats of +2 Str/Dex and -2 Con/Int?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yes, I use the wood elves whit the above mentioned stats and I allow them :).

[Purple]

Excellent, thank you.  :)

[Kandice Kaine]

Nah, National, I'm already got the character halfway written up, but I'm going purist Sorcerer... Though I've been meaning to ask the DM

In the Unearthed Arcana the give an alternate specialization template for wizards...

It gives the Rapid summoning ability to a wizard in exchange for a familiar. Could I apply that to my sorceror? Give up the familiar for the ability to cast all summoning spells as one action (standard) instead of full rounds?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Nope, sorcerrors cannot specialize. So either you are summoning wizard or sorc. Anycase I checked out the feat what I speaked earlier. It is called Arcane Devotee or something like that. It gives access to one domain's spells and adds them into list of available spells to your spell list. Problem is that you use Wisdom score for save DC's and spells available measurement instead of Charisma. Altough it reads that you cna use them only once per day each spell from each level but I would say sorc can cast more than once domain spell. Anycase good side was you get Planar Ally (lesser) available for 4lvl and so you could become pure arcanist thaumaturgist and so ahve 1-2 levels when you start the game in that PrC.

[National Acrobat]

Alright, just wanted to make sure Kandice. So we're both sorcerors. Well, I'm not all sorceror.

I'm done with my character mechanically, except for the bonus feat that is from the PHB II. And a background, I need to do that also.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Do you have PHBII available from friend or check from store? Just asking so that I can PM the details of the feat via PM :).

[National Acrobat]

No. I don't have access to it.

[Purple]

Do we type in and PM you character sheet, Zaer?  Or do you have an online sheet generator you'd like us to use?

[Zaer Darkwail]

I would suggest use http://www.3edb.com/index.asp but othe ronline sheets are good also. I start Pm details of the heritage feats....

[National Acrobat]

Hopefully I'll have my background to you tomorrow.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Also note that now also Tome of Magic is allowed, and honestly said love it! It haves very intresting spellcasters or rather say users of magic (spellcaster is unfit term becuase none of them use spells expect one but in end spells transform into supernaturall abilities). Anycase one of our players seemed to be intrested to be summoner, well, there is PrC called 'Fiendbinder' who must know Summon IV spell and Truespeak (a new skill) 10 ranks but in end you can bind demons or devils under your will via ceremonies and best of all; The demons and devils stay whit you 24 hours 7 days of the week (henceworth permamently until dismissed) but bad side is that the fiend in question msut stay 10'ft of you nor cannot go farther than 1 mile until it get risks to get loose plus none of the fiends will be your friends. In end of 10lvl PrC you get +7 to any sepllcaster class (which gived the needed summoning spell) and also can get Baatezy or Tanari template for short while or be able summon 1d6 lesser demons/devils or 1d4 greater demons/devils once per day plus you are able to summon whit swift action a extra demon/devil fight for you for 1 min per level.

Also the cheesiest part; There is NO LIMIT how many demons or devils you bind to yourself but demons and devils, altough they do not harm you, they MAY harm anyone else who come 10'ft of you!

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hey, I have got so far only one person a charsheet! Is folks still intrested to this? I can start in tomorrow the actual game thread perhaps.

[Lirliel]

Still intrested! Just have to make my character still :)

[Kandice Kaine]

This character sheet site is easy to use, but higly time consuming! *cries*

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, I know but it is then nice and easy to update it and link is easy to add into post ;).

[National Acrobat]

That's why I love etools and html character sheets...

[Purple]

I love eTools too.  :)  It's a time-saver.

[Zaer Darkwail]

So we stil have at least the WOMEN still intrested but what about the two guys? I will start the thread when I start get more characther sheets PM'ed to me.

[Lirliel]

Still working on it.. though work has slowed down kinda.. I need to get my two corebooks in once more :( My friend still has them and she's away for three weeks..

[Zaer Darkwail]

What books and what info you are needing?

[Lirliel]

Two core ones Players Handbook 3.5 and Dm's handbook 3.5

Also need some of the info for the Rogue and Assassin class.

[Elven Sex Goddess]

I am interested, and have come up with a character  that is a Druid 8th lv and Scout 2nd lv.  She is chaotic neutral to repersent the primal forces. 

I pm the char later today to you to see if accepted.

And for 3.5 character sheet makers.  I would suggest Hero's Forge, or redbud.  Etools holds to many bugs.   

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ouch! That truly needs the books then :P.

Well, I think you fid the most of that in SDR, here is link; http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

It is legal also because it is form WotC site :).

[Lirliel]

Hmmm.. I'll check it out.. but I don't have any of my books here.. lets hope I'll find what I need :)

[Zaer Darkwail]

At least rogue and assassin stats are found there ;).

[Lirliel]

Ok Thanks *Hugs Zaer* I'll see about getting everything worked up..

Oh just one quick Q&A.. when do I take feats again *blush* :P

[Zaer Darkwail]

You take a feat in 1lvl, and then each three levels (3, 6, 9 etc) expect humans and some races get a bonus feat in 1lvl. Anycase I noted a intresting PrC in GUCK site; http://www.netbook-of-uck.net/online_guide/6_prestigeclasses.htm

It is called Seductress and it is badly uncomplete but I can PM you the details of the class if intrested to be a sex killing assassin.

[Lirliel]

Hmnm.. indeed, but I think I'll stick to my normal assassin :)

So that means I've got.. erm 5 feats to take *rubs hands* fun! :D

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, indeed and especially nice if you can take the Mortifying Attack in 6lvl to enchance your Death Attack (ability focus btw works whit in enchancing death attack also) ability. Mortifying Attack I mean Champions of Ruins feat, a one which can result in making all foes shakened after a succesfull death attack and lose also dex for 1 round (and this includes any possible victim who survived your attack).

[Lirliel]

I don't have that book.. but I might just use that feat! :D

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, there is not much requirements to it beside to kow death attack ability and the will save for the people become shakened is egual to the damage dond in death attack. So if you do 20pts of damage in death attack everyone in 30'ft radious from the attack need do a will save DC 20 or else they will be shakened for 2d4 rounds and then lose their dexterity bonus to their armor class for 1 round (so you cna do most cases sneak attacks to victims of this ability). Of course any survived victims of the death attack must roll this same save and this ability is extraordinary fear effect.

I recomend the Champions of Ruin, altough it si FR sourcebook it haves so MANY good feats for evil folk.

[Lirliel]

Hmm, I might get it :) Depends on if I can get some more money, I'm budgetting myself. There's to much stuff out there too buy! :P

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, I agree and my friend of mine we buy books together, at moment around 40% of book collections are buyed by him while I still buy around once a month a book but he also nowadays buys once a month also. That combined we have BIG libary of source books.

[Lirliel]

 :o Dude.. I so wanna visit that library :P with a bookbag, leather gloves and lockpicks! :P

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, well, not actually libary but at least two shelf floors of DnD books plus Exalted books and handfull old Runequest books and also tow or three other rpg books whit different rule set. In overall we have around over 30 3.0 and 3.5 edition books and my friend haves in hardrive around nearly all second edittion source books. Also I have complete War of Spider Queen series and readed Last Mythal (from my friend) and soon I may get Spellfire series as next reading experience borrowed from my friend. I keep the books because I am mostly the DM (a quite privilegde for biing DM ;)). Also I own Elminister in Myth Drannor and plan collect the whole series.

[Lirliel]

Indeed.. 30 books.. now I know where your insane ammount of knowledge comes from :P

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hehe, some of that comes form talking whit my friend who is more realm wise in fluff wise and I oftne read WotC threads for golden droplets of realm lore.

[Lirliel]

Well I'll see about getting started to my character tomorrow, or finishing her I'm partway there on 3edb. Should I sent you what I got already?

[Zaer Darkwail]

You can send so that I can comment already :).

[Elven Sex Goddess]

I take it with two pages having gone by, and no reply.  That it was a no to my request.  Not that it matters, my fill of D&D is filled with  playing in living greyhawk and living arcanis campaigns.   

Thankyou anywhys.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Oh sorry, I did not know I had to approve the concept before you send it :P. I allow a druid/scout in my game and did you think join the good or bad guys (there is after all two sides in the game what I had in mind).

[Elven Sex Goddess]

Either good or the bad group, whichever one needs a body more to round out. 

[Zaer Darkwail]

And a quite a body according your char pic  :o. Anycase I plan start the game thread late tonight (after RL DnD session). I will npc a one male npc in both sides whcih shall work as assistant npc's but shall not take any important decisions or leadership positions (naturally when consider that the the two amles are nemesises thanks alingment).

So anyone who wants to join PLEASE PM me their sheets, I have three characthers in my PM box (one good, one bad and one neutral which can be placed any side).

[Zaer Darkwail]

As heads up I have requested Lilac make the game thread but so far it had not yet appeared nor she replied my PM.

[Lirliel]

You can ask the sirens too!

[Ellyssa]

*peers about*
Actually, I've been pondering a join too but the time hound's been nipping at my heels for awhile and Zaer will already kill me for my sporadic posting in his S&S thing. :)

But yeah, I don't have a character yet, if at all, will wait and see I suppose.

And you're not really supposed to PM Lilac any longer to ask for boards. :P

[Zaer Darkwail]

Well, I did not know ANY sirens so I did know only Lilac and then sended to Soulsemmer (she was online few hours ago and was on when I PM'ed) but even she had not doned the thread yet :P. Can any siren or someone in here create the game thread in NC: Normal Systems whit name 'Valorous heroines and Villanous bitches'.

[Ellyssa]

What, only lady characters, or the men just a footnote. ;)
Anyway done, I hope, and Soulsemmer isn't a Siren.. he's a Lord of the Pen. *points to storywriting competition*

Now put up the rules and backdrop.. please :D

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, OOC thread and characther creation thread has been done. Here is the link to the game; https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?board=262.0

It is late now so I have to go to bed but tomorrow I start move things ahead.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Wohoo! Folks! Give in your characthers via to me in PM! There are only three players signed in actually and all are women so far!