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Started by Yorubi, May 01, 2011, 09:51:49 PM

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Yorubi

Just took them how long before they finally got him?

Sorry I knew this thread might come so i decided to beat others to the punch. XD

I would link an article but it is breaking news.

Major Major

And do they have complete, total, and irrefutable proof?

Belle33

Obama is supposed to make a statement shortly.  This is welcome news.  Perhaps we can get out of Afghanistan now.

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Ryven

Supposedly they have his body.

Marikir

They'd have checked, double, triple, quadruple checked the body against his DNA. 

Supposedly it was done face to face, in a mansion, near Islamabad, Pakistan.



Marguerite

I want to see everything covered to make sure they are 169% percent confirmed.
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Saerrael

I'm with Marg on that one >.>

Marikir

Agreed.

I'm pretty sure they would not let the President get anywhere near making this claim without proof beyond proof.


I'm still curious to see what they say, what the statement is.


Yorubi

I say to confirm its Bin laden, we need to get his birth certificate. A short version of it won't work either. We will need to double check that and triple check it. We will then need to find his mother and have her come and confirm who it is as well. A panel of observes will need to all be around when this happens to make sure its true and cameras need to be rolling. We need to get that one guy with the ability to bring a dead man back to life for a short period of time to zap him and confirm that he is bin laden himself by providing all his valid information and giving his place of birth as well.

Then I'll be sure.

Noelle

Bin Laden has probably been dead for years and this is obviously another government conspiracy to get Barack Hussein Obama re-elected. Silly sheeple.

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TheGlyphstone

Color me skeptical - and even if he is dead, it'll be a week or two at most before the jihadists find a suitable look-alike and have 'Bin Laden' air a video that 'proves' he is still alive.

Marguerite

Obama is on now and I wonder what he truly thinks.
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Marikir

*finishes watching the statement*

Well, supposedly the US forces took custody of the body.

It will probably be shown, etc.  They cannot let there be any doubt about this.


According to Al Jazeera, senior officials in Pakistan have confirmed it as well.


TheGlyphstone

Well, I just came off watching the live feed of Obama's speech, and if CNN is lying, Obama is also lying (or at least they're all wrong, and got trolled by Al Queda again).

Yorubi

Is it bad I had a funny image of someone complete different from Bin laden being used by Al Queda in some comedy sketch trying to pretend he is him? >.<

TheGlyphstone

Nope. I was almost secretly hoping that at the end of the Prez's speech, he would stop walking away from the podium, turn around with a Trollface.jpg picture in his hands and yell "PSYCH! JUST KIDDING LOLZ!"

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Quote from: Yorubi on May 01, 2011, 10:19:42 PM
I say to confirm its Bin laden, we need to get his birth certificate. A short version of it won't work either. We will need to double check that and triple check it. We will then need to find his mother and have her come and confirm who it is as well. A panel of observes will need to all be around when this happens to make sure its true and cameras need to be rolling. We need to get that one guy with the ability to bring a dead man back to life for a short period of time to zap him and confirm that he is bin laden himself by providing all his valid information and giving his place of birth as well.

Then I'll be sure.

I was going to put up a similar post...

Trouble

Man, I never really thought this would actually happen. I was just starting high school, freshmen year, when 9/11 happened. Even after hearing the speech, I'm still a little in shock.

It's a relief that he's dead. I just hope we didn't make him a martyr.

And that's terrible, Glyph. XD Hilarious, but terrible.

But I'd definitely like to be absolutely certain that this really is bin Laden.
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Marikir

You know, it's kind of interesting watching the crowds outside of the White House.  I am reminded how similar it was that people in the Arab world would hold demonstrations of joy at attacks on the US and other countries.

Not that I think either are justified.  It's very odd seeing people of my country behaving in such a way.

I don't know if it's warranted and feel it's not really in good taste. 

But apparently it's human nature, since it's a reflection of other "celebrations" of similar nature. 

Very chilling, frankly.

Yorubi

Well those kind of attacks are different. Not like we are holding celebrations of joy for attacking Arabs, people are doing it for one individual who is responsible for terrible attacks and leading an organization bent on causing terror.

AllieCat

You know.. I want to be all America Fuck Yeah, but more and more I think the people killed on 9/11.. trying to convince my sweetie to go on a midnight drive with me to NYC.. it'd be nice to see the sun coming up over Ground Zero.. Irresponsible I know :)

Marikir

Supposedly along with Osama, three men and one woman were killed.

2 male couriers and one of his adult sons.  The woman was supposedly being used as a human shield and lost her life due to that.



All of this is still being speculated on, of course, but I'm quite curious to hear what comes out over the next 24 hours.

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Whatever, congratulations to everybody, that was great news!
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Quote from: Yorubi on May 01, 2011, 10:19:42 PM
I say to confirm its Bin laden, we need to get his birth certificate. A short version of it won't work either. We will need to double check that and triple check it. We will then need to find his mother and have her come and confirm who it is as well. A panel of observes will need to all be around when this happens to make sure its true and cameras need to be rolling. We need to get that one guy with the ability to bring a dead man back to life for a short period of time to zap him and confirm that he is bin laden himself by providing all his valid information and giving his place of birth as well.

Then I'll be sure.

That was very funny comment I laugh like a drain.


My two cents when I heard it over here in Australia. I am a little skeptical I figured he had been dead a few years, they did know where he was all along, and that they only released the news that he was dead because the American people needed some good news to feel good about. because times are hard at the moment and people need a cathartic release

Any way I hope that means that Australian troops will get out of Afghanistan too. Our Prime Minister made some speech mainly rhetoric but no confirmation of whether he was dead and we are letting the troops out of there. But it's good news. Yet sadly some new mad man, or mad woman terror will take his place.

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Morning news said Bin Laden was buried at sea. I have no idea if this true.
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Quote from: Marguerite on May 02, 2011, 10:43:22 AM
Morning news said Bin Laden was buried at sea. I have no idea if this true.

Makes sense.. take enough evidence to prove he is dead..and who they claim he is..Then wrap the chains around him and toss him into the water at 100+ fathoms. No body for the 'cause' and no place for folks to come and venerate/desecrate.


Oniya

QuoteAfter bin Laden was killed in a raid by US forces in Pakistan, senior administration officials said the body would be handled according to Islamic practice and tradition. That practice calls for the body to be buried within 24 hours, the official said. Finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, the official said. So the US decided to bury him at sea.
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Looks like it was more than just a way of keeping the crazies away.
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Noelle

This is a definite triumph in the way of careful, calculated intelligence gathering and application and cooperation between departments. TV5Monde out of France was describing it as "surgical", which I think is very appropriate.

Pakistanis are asking that America leave Afghanistan now since we got what we were after essentially, but I think we all know that finding bin Laden is not the end of the line. Killing one man doesn't mean the rest suddenly go away; I wonder if al-Qaeda planned for this day or if they've become at all complacent in a decade of our manhunt. My bet is that they already have plan B -- it would be stupid not to when the world's superpower is hunting you down. I am wary of official statements that seem assured that this is a downturn for Al-Qaeda. You don't become a threat to the US by being a band of utterly incompetent fools.

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Quote from: despickable on May 02, 2011, 05:21:58 AM
My two cents when I heard it over here in Australia. I am a little skeptical I figured he had been dead a few years, they did know where he was all along, and that they only released the news that he was dead because the American people needed some good news to feel good about. because times are hard at the moment and people need a cathartic release

Its almost funny that you said that Despickable, even as an American Im skeptical. Of course I would add, that Its a bit iffy for me because ..Well its an election year, Obama isnt really that popular in some poles, the gas prices are f*cking ridiculous..If it is a ploy, though I hope its not, its a good way to distract us from all the things thats are scewed up with our economy at the moment.

But we shall see, I heard today that There are supposed to be pictures of his dead body that Obama is unsure of if they should be released or not. Because hes not sure the public can handle the graphic nature.

TheGlyphstone

Has Obama seen a Saw movie lately? ???

Not that releasing pictures would help much. The Photoshop lines would be obvious to anyone who knew where to look. ;D

Marguerite

In Mexico and on some Spanish news channels, the bodies of criminals or casualties of criminals are put on display for everyone to see. Whether the individual's face is blurred, you see everything from charred bodies to a mass grave. If Obama is afraid to show the images, then he has not seen the Spanish news. Either way, someway, somehow, those images are going to be leaked to other media sources whether or not they may be photoshopped or given permission. There will be communities who will want visual verification of a dead Bin Laden and knowing a lot of things are being leaked out from the Navy Seals to the process of burying Bin Laden at sea, the images will come out either now or later on.
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TheGlyphstone

The Photoshop comment was more a poke at the die-hard conspiracy theorists who will never believe he's dead. You know they're out there somewhere. -_-