An Eternal Kiss [ Sabbat oWod-FILLED]

[Hellion000]

Stupid Sabbat.


Everyone with two lukewarm braincells knows that the Camarilla is better, and the Followers of Set are the best.

[Blitzy]

*Snickers.*

Serpent of the Light it up, Hellion!

[Nykteus]

At least we've uncovered the Twilight fans among us. Let us join together in prayer, and the tactical use of flamethrowers.

[Blitzy]

Who's a Twilight fan? o_O

[Winterborn]

I think he means me, which is totally false.

Nyk, I meant that what you said was the best thing ever. Not Twilight.

[Nykteus]

Anyone who loves Camarilla can't love vampires. Even Dracula is a Tzimisce. You wouldn't see a Sabbat vampire turning up in Anne Rice's "Lestat And Armand Go Shopping For Kinky Boots". It's been a few years since I read Blackwood Farm, and I still haven't recovered. It's be like finding out that R.A. Salvatore was a pseudonym for J.R.R. Tolkien.

I should point out that I was skitting the Setities. I know that no one could possibly find a flaw in the idea of Van Helsing with a chainsword.

[Blitzy]

...Man I think you might fit right in with this crowd, Nyk. Sarcastic bunch of fuckers. LOL

Camarilla can be good... if played right. *Shrug.* As with most things WoD.

[Nykteus]

I have to admit that my first introduction to the WoD came with Werewolf. Much as I love vampires, I'll take a Fianna Ahroun any day of the week. There's simpy something magical about a character that will rip the piss out of you one minute, and rip the lungs out of you the next.

Granted, I do intend to have my Tzimisce boyo emulate a certain Liverpudlian sorceror, just because I do love mocking authority.

[Blitzy]

My first introduction was with oWoD VtM. But I moved on to nWoD, where I love most of the splats... Werewolf and Changeling being my two personal favs. I'm a horrible person for saying this but, I didn't really care too much for oWoD Werewolf.

*Ducks and hides.*

[Nykteus]

Maybe it's a gender thing. I, personally, couldn't find it in myself to turn down a nine foot tall killing machine with deep animistic beliefs. Granted, I'm also the sort of Storyteller who had my players face down Abominations and Predators, so I might not be the most reliable source. Still, it was rather fun when the Malkavian was the only person who noticed that the red dots on the coterie leader's back formed an equilateral triangle.

[Hellion000]

Twilight? *snickers* You're not a fan of politics, are you, Nyk?

See, the Sabbat is perfect for mindless brutesquadding with religious overtones thrown in. So... in a lot of ways its a lot like the Crusades. Fitting, no? After all, the Sword of Caine is engaged in a millenia long crusade against the (allegedly mythical) Antideluvians and their Elder pawns. The problem with the Sabbat is two-fold.

One- Players. The typical Sabbat player (sadly) couldn't politic himself out of high school with a copy of Mean Girls in one arm and the entire series run of Beverly Hills 90210 in the other. The typical Sabbat player is as two dimensional as his PotenceCelerityObfuscateFortitudeSerpentisProtean having character is.

Two- Characters. Not only the characters themselves, but the concept as viewed through the setting. The Sword of Caine is supposed to be comprised of brainwashed Neonate and Ancillae grade Licks who passionate and deeply believe in the legends taught to them by the True'd Shovelheads who survived a decade or so of being cannon fodder; the aforementioned (almost) Elder Shovelheads who are True (finally) and are now in positions like Priest, Ductus, and if they're extremely lucky maybe the odd Bishop, Templar, and Black Hand member; a smattering of Vampires literally old enough to remember that the Sabbat was not a religious movement at first; and lastly the obscenely powerful bastards like Moncada who are EXACTLY THE SORT OF CREATURE THEY'RE CLAIMING TO BE FIGHTING AGAINST. However, 90% of the characters (both PC and NPC) are designed to be, at best, two dimensional mockeries and at worst min maxed combat wombats that were designed to 'win the game'.


Now, I'm not Trolling you or anyone else in this thread just to be a dick. Phyr and I are very close rl friends, and I was just messing with her, buuuuut accusing me of being some sort of Twilight junky because I prefer a game where you have to think (like the Camarilla or a FoS game) is exactly the sort of gauntlet throwdown I just can't resist.

I'm not mad, by any means, but I just couldn't NOT reply!

[Blitzy]

Oh. OH. Oh oh oh.. I see. You're friends with -Phyr- IRL. Aaaah. But not me? I see, I see.




And I hate politics so I dislike the Camarilla for that reason. A -good- Camarilla game is hard to find, as is a good Sabbat game. But it's why I know that this one will be different. ;)

[Hellion000]

It's Phyr's thread, hooker. *smirks* So she got special mention.


Edit to Add:

In order to appease her Blitziness, I must not append my comments to include the following.

Blitzy is so awesome that when I look at her my eyes bleed love. She's my rl friend too, and not just that- she's the mother to be of my next child and my next ex-wife.


(Is that better, woman?)

[Blitzy]

Much better. Even better if you kiss my boots.  ::)

[Hellion000]

Shit. I love you like a fat kid loves cake but you know damned well THAT ain't happenin'.

[Nykteus]

I barely caught something involving wombats, and a Texan telling me that I didn't understand politics. I'd be inclined to give a smart answer, but unfortunately it seems as though the Troubles are starting up again, and it'd be remiss of a Catholic Irishman to pass judgement on another when sectarian grumpiness is wrapping it's filthy claws around that dream of a Socialist Britain.

Anyone else remember Kindred: The Embraced? All I can recall is the Bruhas and the Alien Bounty Hunter from the X-Files being a rather scary chap. Oh, and a Ventrue using Protean.

[Winterborn]

Dammit. I think this guy is a better Texan Bastard than I'll ever be...

But I can try to beat 'im!

[Hellion000]

Being the decendents of Catholic Irishmen, I'll join you in solidarity, and give you a pass this time.

Descendent. I'm one person. Usually.

[Blitzy]

*Just giggles softly.*

[Phyrfaerie]

 So lets get down to brass tacks, shall we? I thought my initial post was very clear regarding my simple idea. I would run a Sabbat Pack. Im pretty sure that means Im going to do it. I appreciate that you want to start your politicking, however, I will be posting opening posts when I get time to not half-ass it. I dont need to tell you all that I have kids that are under 6 and need monitoring or that I have a family life that I make run smoothly, but I have, so I will thank you to keep your enthusiasm in check. That may seem a bit harsh to some that dont know me, but I not here to be pressured into posting before I am ready. If you dont like it, there are always other places to play. Yes, Im a bitch. Im okay with it.  Now, I will have my posting up for the setting soon, hopefully sometime tonight, so please, I will ask nicely for some patience from my players and some slack. I will bring you a game that is the best that I can offer, and not some halfass job.

[Blitzy]

Phyyyyyr... <3

[Winterborn]

Catholic Scotsmen here. Though we were supposedly MacNeills, so the line there is blurry.

Anyway! While I won't contest that Sabbat is very easy to combat-wombat for, take a look at my character. (Second Sabbie, btw.)

So, sure, he's a biker with a reputation for killing, right? He's also a Pander, who are well known for resorting to violence, and most of them are born in the midst of it. He's also a follower of the Path that says "You're an animal. Hungry? Go eat." and eschews the trappings and morals of humanity. His Disciplines are planned to be Celerity, Potence, and Awe. Does this sound 2D?

@Phyr, sorry if it came off like I was saying "GOGOGOGOGOGO--". I really wasn't trying to goad you into posting any faster, just throwing out some suggestions for something that might get the story rolling. Notice I quit when Blitzy said you'd probably have something worked up already? Apart from that, consider me prostrated on the floor, head raised in both hands.

[Rishon Tam]

We love you, Phyr! Some of us even in a fashion that could be discussed in polite company.
I apologize if I inadvertently said anything offensive. I'll wait nicely -- promise.

[Nykteus]

Scots are different, everyone knows that they're Godforsaken. Your average Glaswegian makes the Tzimisce look like the inhabitants of Never Never Land.

Besides, as the only Fiend in the group, cross me and you'll spend the next week trying to intimidate Ron Perlman. I just found out that he was Harry the sasquatch today. It's nearly as shocking as when I realised that the Third Doctor was also Wurzel Gummidge.

[Blitzy]

In case it's missed on the update... We haz OOC room!

(I say that cuz I missed it. >_> D'oh!)

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