WH40000 - what's your opinion?

[HairyHeretic]

It is a good game. Gets better with the expansions. 

[GUN]

My interest in 40K is really down to just surface level stuff that can be found in other media so I'm pretty indifferent.

Of course, if they can find a way to bring Warhammer's Skaven into 40K that may get my interest. <_<

[greenknight]

They arguably had one, and excised it for 3e. Nothing says beastmen regiments had to only be goatboys. And there's no reason you can't field skaven as some kind of chaos cult mutations.

[Lustful Bride]

My interest in 40K is really down to just surface level stuff that can be found in other media so I'm pretty indifferent.

Of course, if they can find a way to bring Warhammer's Skaven into 40K that may get my interest. <_<

Skaven is best! Yes-Yes!  I've personally always loved the idea of making Skaven another Abhuman species with a little easter egg here and there of their home system being in a civil war between Imperial loyalists and Skaven who have taken to worshipping the Great Horned Rat.

Its too much fun not to imagine ^_^

Thankfully, I am not alone in wanting this to be a thing! 

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[GUN]

Skaven is best! Yes-Yes!  I've personally always loved the idea of making Skaven another Abhuman species with a little easter egg here and there of their home system being in a civil war between Imperial loyalists and Skaven who have taken to worshipping the Great Horned Rat.

Its too much fun not to imagine ^_^

Thankfully, I am not alone in wanting this to be a thing!

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Yeeeesssssss!

Give the rodents shootbangs!

[Norwegian One]

The rats had better watch out for the Felinids!

[Aiden]

What in the heresy is going on here! 


Isnt there a ratlike abhuman in the imperial guard? Are they mutations or an entire species? 

I am aware that rat like does is not the same with Skaven, don’t make me call the inquisition. 

[Revelation]

What in the heresy is going on here!


Isnt there a ratlike abhuman in the imperial guard? Are they mutations or an entire species?

I am aware that rat like does is not the same with Skaven, don’t make me call the inquisition.

There are ratlings but they are basically halflings/hobbits.

[clonkertink]

I keep toying with the idea of playing a shortstack ratling sniper in a game...

But my dance card has kinda filled up of late.

[HairyHeretic]

There was an illustration of xenos races in, I want to say the 3rd ed rulebook, that looked much like a skaven. That got people speculating that the Skaven might be getting a corresponding race in 40k, which never really materialised.

If I was going to do Skaven using the existing codex options, Chaos is probably the best. Orks might do as well.

[Revelation]

There was an illustration of xenos races in, I want to say the 3rd ed rulebook, that looked much like a skaven. That got people speculating that the Skaven might be getting a corresponding race in 40k, which never really materialised.

If I was going to do Skaven using the existing codex options, Chaos is probably the best. Orks might do as well.

That was a hrud I believe and they've changed dramatically since

[HairyHeretic]

So it was. I googled and found the pic here

https://safebooru.org//samples/2560/sample_17c0d399dfa3426f730a2308244b3504fd797339.jpg?5207895

I don't think the Hrud have ever gotten a proper write up, just mentions here and there in fiction.

[MiaKage]

Xenologist Janus Draik recorded a discussion with Kroot Mercenary Dahyak Grekh , in which the Kroot described felinids as cool in the face of the most brutal opposition, and as some of the most efficient killers in an Astra Militarum Regiment. However, he ultimately found it difficult to distinguish one human from another and as such felinids, to Kroot eyes, looked no different from the rest of humanity.  At the mention of felinids possessing claws the length of a human forearm, the interviewer disregarded the whole statement as coming from an unreliable source.
      - Liber Xenologis

I'd like to think the Felinids are like Izutsumi from Dungeon Meshi

[Inkidu]

So, I got one of the Warhammer horror anthologies, and they're not scary. Not because the authors didn't try, but because if it's one genre the setting of Warhammer 40K (and by extension Warhammer Fantasy I guess) really can't deliberately pursue as a genre it's horror. Horror in the grimdarkest of grimdark settings is... lame... 

Horror works because the people subjected to it have what can be empathized with a more or less normal somewhat decent lives at minimum. Danny Torrance is a five-year-old kid. Regular college kids going to have fun, a family getting lost of a road trip, etc. 

They can obviously not be perfect or normal, but that's stuff that's revealed and adds to the horror, but in 40K unless you're new to the setting it's just business as usual at least from the perspective of the reader. Oh, a demon is tormenting you through mysterious artwork because you killed your master and tried to block it out? How droll, how quaint. This might have worked in any other setting but seven people just got killed by a demon called Steve going for their corps-starch coffee last week. 

I think a proper Warhammer 40K horror story would have to try harder. You'd have to show like the how orks actually appear to non-augmented non-military humans, or how the Imperium is the evil spooky thing. Because getting tormented by all manner of specter, spook, and demon is just... banal by comparison to being unfortunately born into the setting writ large. 

[clonkertink]

So, I got one of the Warhammer horror anthologies, and they're not scary. Not because the authors didn't try, but because if it's one genre the setting of Warhammer 40K (and by extension Warhammer Fantasy I guess) really can't deliberately pursue as a genre it's horror. Horror in the grimdarkest of grimdark settings is... lame...

Horror works because the people subjected to it have what can be empathized with a more or less normal somewhat decent lives at minimum. Danny Torrance is a five-year-old kid. Regular college kids going to have fun, a family getting lost of a road trip, etc.

They can obviously not be perfect or normal, but that's stuff that's revealed and adds to the horror, but in 40K unless you're new to the setting it's just business as usual at least from the perspective of the reader. Oh, a demon is tormenting you through mysterious artwork because you killed your master and tried to block it out? How droll, how quaint. This might have worked in any other setting but seven people just got killed by a demon called Steve going for their corps-starch coffee last week.

I think a proper Warhammer 40K horror story would have to try harder. You'd have to show like the how orks actually appear to non-augmented non-military humans, or how the Imperium is the evil spooky thing. Because getting tormented by all manner of specter, spook, and demon is just... banal by comparison to being unfortunately born into the setting writ large.

I think the most effective horror I've seen in 40k came from The First Heretic, and the Word Bearers' first encounter with daemons. These space marines are on what they think is going to be a holy pilgrimage and they are not ready for what they find in there.

[Inkidu]

Yeah, like to be honest the Tau are a better stand in for average horror protagonist. Say what you want about the Ethereals and all that but these are generally the guys where GW said, "Hey what if you had a standard spacefaring race in our setting?" 

One of the more chilling ones is the Tau who comes across a dying dreadnought and realizing that the miserable thing of hatred and rage has hate the fact the Tau exist longer than the Tau have existed. 

[Arkaniel]

Currently:

My group is temporarily not playing outright 40k battles anymore. The current rules feel annoying and ineffective to play with for casual play. Some of the armies we have lost all their flavour and a lot of power unless you play pure meta.

Just a phase.

I'm currently playing more Sigmar again and upgraded my stormcast with a full Bleak Citadel list. Going to try the Bleak Citadel rules of renown soon as so far, Sigmar rules with the new edition work nice and are rather dynamic if you use your CP with the right timing, but some of the armies we have, have become significantly more bland then they used to be, just like in 40K.

Basically, GW is erasing all chapter tactic equivalents in all the armies we have, with only a small hint of flavour in the renown rules.

Besides this, playing a Song of Ice and Fire miniatures game a lot again.

And finally reading the Siege of Terra books! Not the finest writing in existence and a lot of POV from what I call NPCs, but the story is quite epic so far.

[Krayz]

My group is temporarily not playing outright 40k battles anymore. The current rules feel annoying and ineffective to play with for casual play. Some of the armies we have lost all their flavour and a lot of power unless you play pure meta.

Really feeling this as someone who started collecting Thousand Sons, only to watch them take the Psychic Phase behind the barn and put a bullet in it for 10E... 

[HairyHeretic]

I presume everyone has seen this already?

Reminds me a little of Astartes in capturing just how powerful marines can be.

[Samael]

I presume everyone has seen this already?

Reminds me a little of Astartes in capturing just how powerful marines can be.

Hell yes.
This is exactly how Space Marines should be depicted.
These guys are literally walking tanks.

If you're mortal, you best get out of the way. As it should be.
I was actually wondering if the Astartes artist was part of that team, but I think they work for Games Workshop directly now.

[Revelation]

Reminds me a little of Astartes in capturing just how powerful marines can be.

I was actually wondering if the Astartes artist was part of that team, but I think they work for Games Workshop directly now.

The creator of Astartes (Syama Pedersen) worked on the episode as at least a layout artist.

[Rashol]

I tried submitting some writing for black library once. Going back to it four years later even I can see how terrible my writing was.

Aside from that. I'm just out of it at the moment. I'm sure that it will pull me back in eventually, but right now I've been priced out of most of their games.

[Norwegian One]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PREWXzUZC_c

Merry Christmas from the Sisters of Battle  

[Andol]

I am now back into the game... seeing the Eldar preview was enough to draw me back into my favorite faction. I only have about 575 points of their models in a good painted state. Yet seeing they are remaking the Warp Spiders was a big deal to me... especially when they said they are getting a Phoenix Lord big mamma.