Ellsberg: “EVERY attack now made on WikiLeaks and Julian Assange made against me

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Oniya

Quote from: Serephino on December 27, 2010, 08:02:13 PM
You can go online and look up what Congress votes on.  I think they even televise things, though I'd only watch something like that if I had trouble sleeping.   


They do.  CNN has a camera on both the House and the Senate.  Unfortunately, it doesn't air when the insomniacs need it most.  ;)
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C-SPAN is the channel.  It's so interesting to the average American viewer that I heard that some cable companies, rather than shut off service for non-payment, make it the only channel available.  Apparently, being only able to watch C-Span is enough to make people pay their bills instead of watch their legislators at work.  Great to know what Americans do with what transparency we're offered.
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Oniya

Gee, that's the one channel I didn't try to pull in when they cut me off the other day (since remedied).
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Quote from: Star Safyre on December 27, 2010, 08:43:34 PM
C-SPAN is the channel.  It's so interesting to the average American viewer that I heard that some cable companies, rather than shut off service for non-payment, make it the only channel available.  Apparently, being only able to watch C-Span is enough to make people pay their bills instead of watch their legislators at work.  Great to know what Americans do with what transparency we're offered.
I always find C-Span fascinating, then again I'm weird.  It's amazing to see what our government at work is like.  All of the unnecessary formality and procedure in the Senate makes the stereotypical mystically-traditionalist Japanese Businessman from American movies look like a fat guy in a stained WWF t-shirt, unkept mullet, neckbeard, and beer-helmet attending a private dinner with Pope Palpatine.

Star Safyre

When I used to teach Government, we would read the Constitution, and it says in the Constitution that all citizens must be granted access to the discussions which take place in the House and Senate.  The students, high school seniors, were always amazed when I told them that that boring channel of the big room with all the guys in suits wandering around is actually their lawmakers and that the Constitution guarantees us access to what happens in there.
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Will

Well, to be fair, most if it IS just people in suits wandering around.  I know they're doing important things, but really, if you have time in your day to watch them stand around and wait for voting to start or finish, I envy you.
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ColdBloodedJellyDoughnut

I've read everyone's opinion (thank god for speed reading) and I've been following the news of wikileaks avidly and there was only one conclusion I could come to: If Mr Assange really had the rights and best intentions of the world in mind he would have remainded anonymous. Instead he has published documents that show nothing more than the fact that American embassadors are incompetent and endangered the lives of troops in a war he has nothing to do with. All the while he lives on a plush estate with his wealthy supporters, bleating about freedom of speech.

It had nothing to do with freedom of speech, and if he was surprised by the rape allegations, he is a bigger idiot than I thought.

What annoyed me the most about his reaction to those allegations was when he said something akin to: 'Silly women getting hysterical over nothing'. Perhaps the allegations are completely untrue, but that reaction just made him look like a bigger pig.
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some documents apparently imply australia's ambassador management also has a few embrassing issues

Star Safyre

Quote from: ColdBloodedJellyDoughnut on December 28, 2010, 09:13:17 AM
If Mr Assange really had the rights and best intentions of the world in mind he would have remainded anonymous. Instead he has published documents that show nothing more than the fact that American embassadors are incompetent and endangered the lives of troops in a war he has nothing to do with. All the while he lives on a plush estate with his wealthy supporters, bleating about freedom of speech.

I think he makes a good foil to Deep Throat.
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Trieste

Quote from: Star Safyre on December 28, 2010, 11:31:44 PM
I think he makes a good foil to Deep Throat.

*wonders how many google hits Star got on 'deep throat' before being able to find the correct one* :P

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Star Safyre

Quote from: Trieste on December 29, 2010, 08:25:33 AM
*wonders how many google hits Star got on 'deep throat' before being able to find the correct one* :P

Actually, my google-fu was strong that day, and I got what I wanted on the first hit.  (Though I think it makes up for the other day when I was looking for "female drow" and found M/M porn.   Seems all roads on the internet lead to buttsex.  ::) )

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on December 29, 2010, 12:09:48 AM
I prefer to think of Assange as 'The bloody Tool'.

My non-phonetically reading brain keeps reading his name as "AssAnger".  I've refrained from mentioning it before, because, well, being mature and all that jazz.   ::)
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