Looking for my first DnD roleplay

[Innocence]

Hi everyone!!

So I must admit I have never played DnD before. *Despair*
I've played the mmo for a bit but never really got all that into it. 
Whenever my friends try to get a group together it's always 'I'll let you know by next week.' then by next week 'I'll let you know by next month.'
>.>
So I figure I should familiarize myself with the game first by trying it out online via roleplay =D
If anyone out there is willing to create a game with me or let me join theirs, I would GREATLY appreciate it

Thanks for reading!!

[Muse]

  *Bows*  Good morning, m'lady.  :) 

  Is there any edition of D&D you're especially interested in? 

  I do best with 2nd, 3.5 or pathfinder. 

[Innocence]

  *Bows*  Good morning, m'lady.  :) 

  Is there any edition of D&D you're especially interested in? 

  I do best with 2nd, 3.5 or pathfinder.

Evening my lord. *Curtsy*
I was told 4.0 is good for getting the hang of the basics and for noobs, but that the regular plays quite dislike it haha.
Whichever is easiest for others to help me going I guess =]

[Marie Reynolds]

Well id like to announce my interest and if i may make a suggestion, Innocence it all depends on  your focus do you prefer fluff(story) or crunch(mechanics) or a good mixture of both or do you prefer more mechanics focused characters. Cause if you like mechanics then fourth edition is not a bad choice if you like more fluff options i would suggest pathfinder or 3.5. that is just my to cents on the matter.

[Ershin]

Mind if I ask what version the group you're trying to get into plays? Third and Fourth are pretty different games, some mechanics (like fortitude, reflex and will) are the complete opposite of each other between versions, along with changes with effects, skills and powers/spells/etc. If you learn to play with one and they're playing with another, you'll end up having to learn two systems and start with them from scratch again.

[Innocence]

Well id like to announce my interest and if i may make a suggestion, Innocence it all depends on  your focus do you prefer fluff(story) or crunch(mechanics) or a good mixture of both or do you prefer more mechanics focused characters. Cause if you like mechanics then fourth edition is not a bad choice if you like more fluff options i would suggest pathfinder or 3.5. that is just my to cents on the matter.

I guess I'd be more fluff based, what is this 'pathfinder' everyone keeps talking about?
I'm so confused D=>

Mind if I ask what version the group you're trying to get into plays? Third and Fourth are pretty different games, some mechanics (like fortitude, reflex and will) are the complete opposite of each other between versions, along with changes with effects, skills and powers/spells/etc. If you learn to play with one and they're playing with another, you'll end up having to learn two systems and start with them from scratch again.

Oh!! Good point!
Well in one group we were all noobs so we were going to learn 4.0
But in the most recent one, which has the most potential of actually happening, the two guys in charge were planning to teach us 3.5

I guess right now 3.5 seems like the best choice

[Marie Reynolds]

Well i think we just wait now on our fearless dm and we can get things rolling and corrupt err i mean educate another about 3.5.

[Innocence]

Oh corruption is always a fun way to pass the time, along with procrastinating and scheming =]

[Ignis]

I am unfortunately a horrid DM but if you wouldn't mind a stereotypical elf of some sort tagging along I would love to play.

I have been told pathfinder is based on the 3.5 rule-set with the biggest differences coming from the starting levels. With D&D you start off as a normal person with some extra training. In pathfinder you start off equivalent to a lvl 20 D&D character with plenty of resources to pull from. At least thats how it was explained to me.

[Patriarch]

Hi everyone!!

So I must admit I have never played DnD before. *Despair*
I've played the mmo for a bit but never really got all that into it. 
Whenever my friends try to get a group together it's always 'I'll let you know by next week.' then by next week 'I'll let you know by next month.'
>.>
So I figure I should familiarize myself with the game first by trying it out online via roleplay =D
If anyone out there is willing to create a game with me or let me join theirs, I would GREATLY appreciate it

Thanks for reading!!

Sure thing. :)

1) Before anything else, look for a great DM/GM. The best tabletop system on earth is worthless without a good DM/GM to craft a great adventure and make the world come alive. I'd look for one who focuses more on stories and less on combat for your first time - as you'll be on a more level playing-field (and frankly, being the stars of your own story is one of the best parts about DnD)

2) If you have several good DMs/GMs available to you across the editions, I recommend 4th Edition heartily. The system is both deep and accessible - much more user-friendly than 3rd edition. It's also incredibly cheap to get into - just purchase a DnD Insider subscription for less than $10 a month and get access to every player-book ever made, most DM content, every DnD Magazine, the compendium with an easily searchable content-base for everything 4e and the great Character Builder which makes building your characters easy, plus takes care of most of the annoying math for you. And you can get three months of all this for significantly less than the cost of the first Player's Handbook (there are three, plus lots and lots of other books and magazines that are all included in the subscription). It's far cheaper to use the DnD Insider subscription than even buying older edition books which are now on-sale... And DnD Insider comes with virtual tools to make your life easier. :)

3) 4e also doesn't have the balance issues of 3e - each class has unique powers and flavor and the powers are balanced enough so that you can choose just about any spells/attacks/whatever you want and still be able to contribute to your party as a valuable member of the team.

4) Finally, since 4e is much more user-friendly for DMs and the virtual tools make setting up encounters and building monsters take much less time than older editions - 4e is highly suited for building great stories (as there's more time to focus on it). My own 4e campaign is entirely story-driven, and 4e suits that better than any other edition I've come across.

5) Another viable option is Pathfinder - which is harder to break into than 4e (and more costly) but is still a solid system. I personally don't enjoy the mechanics as much as 4e - but that's a matter of preference. Either way, unless you have a truly incredible DM and lots of friends who love 3e... Pathfinder/4e are just superior in design and accessibility. Pathfinder was made specifically to patch the many huge flaws in 3e, while 4e is a brand new take on DnD which works a lot, lot, lot smoother than previous attempts.I can attest to its accessibility for new players too, as nearly every campaign I've DMed has featured brand new players to 4e or DnD in general... Who then stay with the campaigns and become veterans. 4e's so smooth that I was able to include a visiting friend in my level 30 campaign despite her never playing any tabletop rpg before and she was able to get into the swing of things.

4e. It just works.

But again, a great DM who will help you learn the game and weave a great adventure is the most important thing of all. Better to play First Edition with a Great DM than 4th Edition with a bad DM.

[Maverick Hunter Cake]

Ignis, I have been playing DnD 3.5 for a couple years and could help you get started. Pathfinder is pretty much 3.5 with some things changed or added on. It's pretty much DnD 3.75.

[Genbu83]

Ignis, I have been playing DnD 3.5 for a couple years and could help you get started. Pathfinder is pretty much 3.5 with some things changed or added on. It's pretty much DnD 3.75.

Agreed, though I'll also say that pathfinder is slightly more streamlined than 3.5

[Ershin]

4e. It just works.

Stairc, you are my favorite.  :-*

[ZameRagues]

I'm game for 3.5 or 4.0

[Miyu]

I might be interested in playing

[Innocence]

Yay sounds like we got a good amount of people interested. Now all we need us a DM.
Anyone up for the job?

[Ignis]

*points at the next person* I am horrible at DMing. I tend to get bogged down in small stuff and skip over some of the more important details. I also play the monsters way to smart most of the time.

[grovercjuk]

Always looking for a D&D game, any ideas on an adventure?

[Ignis]

Always looking for a D&D game, any ideas on an adventure?

As a DM? Well Innocence created the thread and hasnt played before. I dont think we have decided on 3.5 or 4th ed yet. If we could get that figured out and then let the DM get to work devising new ways to kill us we would be set. :P

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[Gary Stargazer]

If I might pipe in with my two cents on something. Innocence D&D isn't the only gaming system out there either.
I love me some D&D and it is my fave system but whitewolf is an interesting system set into a more gothic style world with things like vampires(I don't mean sparkly ones) and werewolves.
If you're into cyber punk style games you may want to look at shadowrun which is a fun system but pretty much dead now, still it would be simple to find the books online.

Also there are hosts of games out there, everything from star trek to sailor moon. >:3

The great thing about game systems though is you can pretty much adapt rules to whatever mood you're looking for, for example D&D can easily be adapted to a cyber punk world if the GM is willing to tweak and prune it's rules a little.


Anyhoo back on topic of the thread. I just recently got introduced to pathfinder and I really enjoy it, I can't recommend it enough but I can't get into 4th, Stairc makes very good points on the system but it just feels like an mmorpg on paper to me. I tried playing it a few times with a group with a very experienced GM and they all hated it. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[Ignis]

I played the 4th ed intro games and died in both. The first time it was just general party stupidness and no big deal. The second time the DM decided in his wisdom for lack of a better word that because we had 6 or 7 players the adventure was to easy and he would total the difficulty it "should" be each adventure and add in a dragon of that lvl with the other dragon at the end of the adventure. Without telling anyone or letting my mage run back up the ramp. It was over quickly, thats the best I can say. So I tend to look upon 3.5 with its over complication with a kinder eye than 4th ed.

I keep hearing good things about pathfinder and have the books somewhere but havnt actually played it.

shadowrun

Where? I have tried to get a game off the ground but I am a horrible DM. It looks like an amazing setting though. You dont happen to know of a game that is looking for another player, do ya?

[Gary Stargazer]

Oh uh ... well I run a shadowrun game in r/l, but I doubt that's gonna help you unless you're near chattanooga TN. :3

[Brandon]

I may be a glutton for punishment but with another game of mine having fallen apart I have some free time. I would be willing to run something simple like a pathfinder adventure path. As a GM I prefer pathfinder for a few reasons, the first is its pretty easy to pick up if the player wants to learn, second you can find most of the information completely free at http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ , third you can find all of the setting information for free at http://pathfinderwiki.com/wiki/Pathfinder_Wiki , fourth it allows for valid characters of nearly all playstyles, fifth it has a huge following on Elliquiy

So let me ask you Innocence, what exactly do you think of when you think of D&D? Is it just fantasy roleplaying with a system to govern success and failure? or something more?

[Ignis]

A road trip is in order then, Kansas City to Chattanooga is only an eleven and a half hour drive. :P

[Gary Stargazer]

*scratches the back of his head* Well I've not tried running anything online, still new to forum based games like this, though I did cut my teeth on the table top stuff when I was 12. I guess I could try throwing together an interest thread to see if anyone would want to play shadowrun here, I just figured no one would care to want to play since it's not a hugely popular system.

I would offer to GM something with pathfinder but I'm still getting used to that system myself and a large group would be too much for me to handle I would imagine.

[Ignis]

You need 4 interested people to run a party, so there have to be 3 more interested people somewhere on this forum. :P

Also sorry for hijacking the thread this much.

[Muse]

Oooh, Garry to the rescue? 

[Gary Stargazer]

Huh? Am I supposed to rescue something? >>

[Brandon]

*scratches the back of his head* Well I've not tried running anything online, still new to forum based games like this, though I did cut my teeth on the table top stuff when I was 12. I guess I could try throwing together an interest thread to see if anyone would want to play shadowrun here, I just figured no one would care to want to play since it's not a hugely popular system.

I would offer to GM something with pathfinder but I'm still getting used to that system myself and a large group would be too much for me to handle I would imagine.

Actually theres quite a few people, myself included, that would be into a shadowrun game. Ive always wanted to play but never had the opportunity. The hardest part is finding a GM for it since so few people are comfortable with the setting.

I think Muse was confusing that idea for an interest in GMing a D&D/pathfinder game

[Gary Stargazer]

Actually theres quite a few people, myself included, that would be into a shadowrun game. Ive always wanted to play but never had the opportunity. The hardest part is finding a GM for it since so few people are comfortable with the setting.

I think Muse was confusing that idea for an interest in GMing a D&D/pathfinder game

Ooooh, Well you already offered to run something as far as pathfinder goes.
As far as shadowrun goes I may very well start an interest thread over it, I think the tricky part would be that here on E when you use the dice bot it only shows a roll total even when using multiple dice, and shadowrun like whitewolf uses multiple dice per roll.

[ZameRagues]

The E dice bot shows the individual results of the die as well as the total of the dice.

[Gary Stargazer]

Oh well don't I feel silly, didn't notice that if you click on the roll ID it shows it. I always only saw the total when you copied the url of the roll.

[ZameRagues]

No reason to feel silly over something small like that.
I've done worse things to make a fool of myself.

[Love And Submission]

I'd be interested  but I ave to l admit I played a 3.5e game though it was a while ago and I've forgotten almost all of the information I learned.

[Gary Stargazer]

This is the last topic I will bring up on shadowrun since I don't want to spam up her thread, however I did notice one major hurdle to cross. As most people have already stated they are interested but don't know how to play, I've found it rather difficult to find online PDF's of the books and such short of using a torrent to pirate them. I own the books in r/l but that won't help with trying to teach over the net. I'm starting to see why no one runs the games now. No way to share material with the players.

[sleepingferret]

Both Pathfinder and 3.5 have online SRDs, which contain the basics..though they aren't necessarily presented in a manner that can help teach new players. 

3.5 SRD www.d20srd.org

Pathfinder SRD www.d20pfsrd.com

They do contain the information the new players will need, to create characters and understand how the game works.  It is just the manner in which the material is presented, that isn't helpful to the learning process for new players.  Some may be able to read through and be fine, others may just be more confused than when they first started.  But as a reference source, and with a good guide(s), the SRDs can be very useful and also make useful tools to even players who own the actual source material.

I own the books, but sitting at the table with my group I found it quicker to find things using my laptop using the SRD.

[Brandon]

I have to be clear on something, if I end up running this game its going to be for Innocence. I always enjoy getting people into the hobby but because its her first time I want to make it special. Thats why its so important that I know what she thinks of when she thinks of fantasy roleplaying, Ive got to create a game that lives up to the imagination

[Ignis]

I have to be clear on something, if I end up running this game its going to be for Innocence.

I couldnt have said it better. *Thinks of something to keep from making this a one sentence reply.* It is more about getting her into the game than anything else IMHO. Now just have to wait for her to reply about 3.5 or 4th (or pathfinder...).

[Brandon]

Acctually Im only running a pathfinder game. Im done with 3.5 and you couldnt pay me enough to touch 4th edition. What Im talking about is I want to understand the ideas in her head when she thinks of fantasy roleplaying. Does she think of dark dungeons with undead or demons plaguing local towns? Does she imagine setting out on an adventure to build her own kingdom to rule as a benevolent queen or dictatorial warlord? Does she see the game as entering the lairs of dragons to slay them and steal their stuff? Does she see it as long expeditions into forgotten ruins in search of magical items?

Everyone has a different idea of what fantasy roleplaying is before they even consider a system. I want to know what her vision is

[Ignis]

I was saying in general whatever she decides on, if she is ok with pathfinder or not.

[Gary Stargazer]

Ah I remember my first D&D game, I played a ranger. :3

[Innocence]

I have school for a few days and suddenly my thread gets spammed [YAY]
lolol ok now to attempt to reply to everyone...

It seems I'd be better off with pathfinder since people seem to recommend it and Brandon provided a link [many thanks =D]
And to answer youre question when I think of DnD I think of a bunch of nerds sitting in a poorly lit, unconventionally small room with the DM telling a story in a hauntingly macabre voice.  And the players shouting 'I pull out my +5 atk sword and slice the goblins hideous head off!!'
Is that right? haha, well in short I think it woudl be playing Dragon Age [?]

In my years of roleplay I've learnt that anything is possible =]

And Gary , thanks for your input =]
But twilight has ruined vampires and werewolves for me, and although I know there's many [MANY] table top systems out there I figure I'd play the one most popular or most heard of, just so I can get a feel of it. 

As a DM? Well Innocence created the thread and hasnt played before. I dont think we have decided on 3.5 or 4th ed yet. If we could get that figured out and then let the DM get to work devising new ways to kill us we would be set. :P

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This is totally going on my facebook XD
BWAHHAAa

I'd be interested  but I ave to l admit I played a 3.5e game though it was a while ago and I've forgotten almost all of the information I learned.

I'm leaning more towards Pathfinder now hehe
so if you havent played that yet we can all learn together yay =D

If I missed anyone I am sorry T.T

Ok so what I think I'm getting from this sea of replies is...
Brandon is willing to DM/GM?
Ignis is willing to play yes yes?

[ZameRagues]

i'm game for pathfinders.
I haven't tried it yet either.

[RubySlippers]

I like Pathfinder also, if you have space I wouldn't mind running a cleric they are a good self-contained class and your likely going to need one, not sure of what diety or power though but one would be fun.

[Marie Reynolds]

I'm willing to play and their is something that will save vampire fantasy watch helsing ultimate

[Brandon]

I dont know about others but this kind of thing has never happened in my games

Dead Alewives Summoner D&D skit

Now that Ive lightened the mood. Yes Im willing to run the game. Im going to make it so that those who are new to pathfinder get garanteed slots for players. So basicly this is a newbie game where people can learn the system, ask questions, etc etc. On that note Im going to be limiting the player count to my usual 5.

Ill have to consider a good story to begin with. I prefer to keep this at 1st level so theres less for you all to learn starting out so Im thinking an adventure path would be best. As for which one, Im unsure at the moment.

[Innocence]

i'm game for pathfinders.
I haven't tried it yet either.

Yay learning together will be great =D

I like Pathfinder also, if you have space I wouldn't mind running a cleric they are a good self-contained class and your likely going to need one, not sure of what diety or power though but one would be fun.

Aws I wanted to be a cleric/ support
I tried being a tank once but I always die hahaa, I'm better at support than anything else I realized =]

I'm willing to play and their is something that will save vampire fantasy watch helsing ultimate

Helsing like the anime?
I will need to watch it some time it's on my 'to do' list

I dont know about others but this kind of thing has never happened in my games
Now that Ive lightened the mood. Yes Im willing to run the game. Im going to make it so that those who are new to pathfinder get garanteed slots for players. So basicly this is a newbie game where people can learn the system, ask questions, etc etc. On that note Im going to be limiting the player count to my usual 5.

Ill have to consider a good story to begin with. I prefer to keep this at 1st level so theres less for you all to learn starting out so Im thinking an adventure path would be best. As for which one, Im unsure at the moment

Thanks so much Brandon =D

Also... I think we should set up a time when we can all be online and stuff.
I figure it'd run more smoothly when everyone is online at once for maybe 2 or 3 hours a week or fortnight
as opposed to just posting when we get online whenever [things get messy]
Does that sound good?

[Brandon]

As in a chat room sort of roleplay? I could use my YIM to set up a private room but this lacks maps and a dice roller. Im open to suggestions though

[ZameRagues]

I dont know about others but this kind of thing has never happened in my games

I act like that periodically when I'm screwing around with my friends while we're playing whatever tabletop they want to DM

[Innocence]

Oh no no I just mean coz everyone is probably in different time zones
so whenever I'm in a group roleplay of any sort we try to find a time when we can all [or a majority of us] will be online
because if one or two players are not online while everyone else is it kind of throws off the balance

[Brandon]

Ah I see. That makes some sense, I live a few feet from the pacific ocean so Im probably in a better position for running the game for mountain, central, and eastern time people. Week days around 5-10 pacific time are best for me.

So innocence, how does being sent on an exploration by the local government and eventually creating/running your own kingdom sound? Its a few extra rules but theres plenty of time to learn the basics of the game before we get to that part

[Innocence]

Ok Because I actually live in Australia so I'm usually 8 - 12 hours ahead of my American counterparts
I'm usually online Mondays to Wednesday, logging on and off between 12pm - 10 pm so those are the best times for me

Exploration sounds good =D
But I don't like the sounds of running my own kingdom D=>
Am I actually being punished by my government and being sent to my death? =D

[Brandon]

Not at all, what I was thinking was just running kingmaker. Basicly the story starts out with a group being sent from Brevoy south to whats called the stolen lands. Their expedition is basicly retake the part of the stolen lands called the greenbelt. Once its been cleared of bandit activity they have the right to start a new kingdom

So actually you would essentially be envoy's for Brevoy's swordlords, not criminals or anything like that.

Alternatively there's another AP called serpents skull which gives the same exploration feel but it starts out with the group being shipwrecked off the coast of Sargava

[Innocence]

Oooo sounds interesting =D
I don't mind which one, whatever is easiest for you I suppose oh great dungeon master. *Bows*

[Brandon]

Alright, lets go with serpents skull then. It's mostly set in the wilderness and has a suitably epic ending to it so assuming people stick it out it should make an excellent game for everyone's first time.

The best thing you can do right now is go http://paizo.com/products/btpy8g6d?Pathfinder-Adventure-Path-Serpents-Skull-Players-Guide and download this pdf. Its completely free and it will give you much more background into the game then I could without an hour of typing.

After you've taken a look at the players guide you should think about what you want to play. Ill be happy to provide suggestions if you like

[Innocence]

Cool cools =D
The link doesn't seem to work though.... sends me to a 'webpage not found' page.
I looked up http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes though
I'm kind of leaning towards a gnome/sorcerer or witch
Since I tend to go for magic users
what do you think? =]

[Brandon]

Try this one http://paizo.com/products/btpy8g6d?Pathfinder-Adventure-Path-Serpents-Skull-Players-Guide

If that doesnt work I can put it up for direct download elsewhere

Magic users can be fun to play. Both have a place in the game so I think it comes down to the theme you want to go with. Spell selection will be important though

[Innocence]

Awesomesauce!
Thanks I'll give it a good read through.
I have to go to my volunteer job right now but I should be back in about 2 hours.
Hopefully we can get enough people online and ready to play by the end of this week? =D

[Brandon]

Yes, when you and the other person whos new to the game has made their decisions on a character and its comfortable with the system Ill put up an add for 3 more players

[Marie Reynolds]

So will the add for other players be in this thread or another. If it is in another thread will you post here to let us know cause I have notifications setup on this topic

[Brandon]

Ill be creating another thread with all the bells and whistles. Right now this thread is only for me to provide assistance to the new players during character generation and to answer any questions they may have.

The best thing you can do is start thinking up a character that you would like to play and put that to paper. What you should not do, and people can consider this a warning if they like, is send me PMs giving me useless information in an attempt to get on my good side. The decisions I make on who gets into the game are completely based on the character they write for the game.

[Innocence]

Seems fair
Should I use the pathfinder character sheet PDF found on the site?
Or just type out a rough draft first?

By the way how is everyone today? =D

[Brandon]

Im doing ok, thank you

How I usually create characters is I get a rough idea of what kind of character I want to play. Then I write out a description or find a picture to represent them. From there I figure out where they came from which is basicly a background and I write that out. Finally if I have an idea of their personality I write that out

Once all that is done I begin the mechanics. The best place for pathfinder character sheets is probably at http://plothook.net/RPG/

At the start of the game the only things Im not allowing include the words of power system, firearms, and the magus, samurai, ninja, and gunslinger classes. Im just not comfortable with that stuff yet but thats nothing you need to worry about. Its more for other people's info

Although a house rule I often add, to your benefit, is each class has an additional 2 skill points per level. Thats to help people make a more rounded party and make some choices that might not usually be made

[Innocence]

Ah ok... well when I play MMORPGs I usually MUST have a male character [not sure why] but this time I feel like playing a female character =D
I can't seem to get Paizo to work for some odd reason... but from what I saw yesterday I wanted her to be a gnome witch.

Hair: Autumn red
Skin: Pale Green
Eyes: Golden Yellow

I will draw up a character picture later on when I figure out more of what I want

For her personality I figure she'd be a sweet little innocent girl, a little cheeky and likes to play tricks on people but never with malicious intent.

How does that sound so far?

[Brandon]

That sounds like a great start

[Innocence]

Woot woot
ok I finally got Paizo running and got the character sheet out
So i'll feel in what i can so far and you tell me what you think =]

Name: TBA
Alignment: Chaotic Good [generally a good person but also a free spirit ^-^]
Character lvl: I assume lvl 1?
Deity: TBA
Race: Gnome
Size: Small
Gender: Female
Age: 40 years is the minimum for adulthood for Gnomes it seems
Height: 3' 3" [100 cm]
Weight: 36 lb
Hair: Shades of Autumn Red
Eyes: Golden Yellow


I think the other stuff I need a die for, and the approval of my GM? Yes?

[Brandon]

Gnomes are small size. Female gnomes tend to range between 3 and 3 1/2 feet tall and weigh 32-38 pounds. A little more or less is fine

Also yes level 1

All of that looks great.

Now on stats (strength, dex, int, etc), I use the point buy system. What this means is you get a set number of points to buy abilities. In this case you get 20 points to spend. Consult the following page for the chart

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/basics-ability-scores/ability-scores

So if you look on that page you note you have 20 points to spend. Now a 16 in say charisma would cost you 10 of your 20 points. However a 10 costs you nothing (on that note 10 is considered average) and an 8 actually gives you more points to work with. This allows you to design a character closer to how you see them. For example if you want to make a charming but oblivious character you would represent that with high charisma but poor wisdom

As for hit points, at first level you get the maximum for your die. So being a sorceress you get 6 plus your constitution modifier

Any other questions?

[Innocence]

Ok then... And I assume the minus points [e.g. 7, 8, and 9 means that you compromise certain attributes for the sake of others?]
And since I'm a Gnome I start off with +2 Con and Cha but -2 Strength
And say I buy 10 points for everything to start off [so that I don't spend any points yet ] my stats will be:

Str: 8
Dex: 10
Con: 12
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 12

The site says Charisma is most important for Sorcerers so if I wanted say 14 Cha I'd deduct 5 points.
Then I'd want to get my Str up so that I can carry more stuff, say 12 STR [-2 for race] I'd deduct another 2 points
It's also be a good idea to get my DEX up since I probably can't wear heavy armour, and being able to avoid attacks would be handy.  So say 13 DEX means deduct another 3 points

so that ends up with...
Str: 10
Dex: 13
Con: 12
Int: 10
Wis: 10
Cha: 14
and 10 points to spare
Not sure what else to do.... what do you suggest?

And what are the modifiers? How do they work?
I'm sorry I'm such a noob lol.

[Brandon]

When I play sorcerers I tend to go with this array of stats before racial modifers.

STR 10
DEX 14
CON 12
INT 13
WIS 10
CHA 16

After your racial modifiers it would look like this

STR 8
DEX 14
CON 14
INT 13
WIS 10
CHA 18

Now as you can see racial modifiers just add or subtract the listed number from that ability score. So in this case the 10 starting strength went to 8 after I applied the modifier. It would be the same if it was higher so say you had a 16 strength to start. That would fall to 14. Likewise it works in the opposite way so starting with 8 strength before modifers would adjust it to 6 strength

Now if you want to take a negative stat before racial modifiers you gain points. So say you start like this before racial modifers

STR 8
DEX 14
CON 12
INT 13
WIS 10
CHA 16

Now you have an additional 2 points to spend before you apply racial modifiers. It still totals out to 20 collective points spent on attributes

[Muse]

*peeks in* 

I can't wait 'til it opens up.  Let me know if I can help out. 

[Gary Stargazer]

I tend to favor clerics and such, if you want a healer for her game let me know, I will happily throw my hat into the ring. I will use my old kitsune one that never got off the ground in another game.

[Innocence]

Everybody wants to be a cleric lol
Brandon I think we should start looking for players now since it will probably take me a while to create my character.

[BraveEarth]

Clerics are fun just due to the sheer possibilities that you can do with them. I'm also rather interested in this game to be honest...

[Brandon]

Fair enough, I probably wont have the time do get a post typed up tonight since I have plans. Ill be sure to write it out tommorrow though

[Muse]

  Do you have an opening for a paladin?  :)