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Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on December 15, 2023, 10:28:27 AMWhen comes to the morality of sampling things; many people misunderstand how the AI Art generation works and just assume it directly copies the sampled works when in truth it merely adapts the styles and techniques from said samples. Like any real person is doing and that is the most amazing part of the system that it mimics just that tiny part of human intelligence. Naturally, if AI copies someone's work, it's plagiarism, but I haven't seen so far any AI that had done a 'perfect copy' of existing work by accident (unless AI Art generator user had wanted a perfect copy). You cannot copyright styles, so naturally some artworks created have similarities to some artists styles.
Quote from: rhev on January 10, 2024, 07:31:49 AMI'd also like to add a video counterpoint to the video above. While it strays slightly from the topic of if AI is problematic or not, it does a lot to dispel the notion that AI art is just 'copying' or 'theft' that seems to be prevalent. This isn't a black or white issue, there isn't a correct answer.Shad is a well-known YouTuber who had built his career with his knowledge of medieval weaponry. In this video, he goes over the process of how he used AI to create an image that got a lot of hate on Twitter.https://youtu.be/OdnAd6-vWns?si=djKjhWofyVo7fQ3AIf you watch this video you see the amount of time and effort that he puts into the image generation and how many steps it takes to go from the original concept to the finished piece. In this video you see how AI is a 'tool', it is a brush that he uses to create his artwork. I think this is an important part of the discussion because there seems to be, quite often, a misconception that people just go to their AI and say "Give me this image in this style," and generate a perfect image. AI is a tool that allows more people to create images that they could not have done on their own, and breaks away the gatekeeping that often comes in the artistic world.Generally speaking, I still stand on the side of 'artists' who have their work stolen from them. But it's not a simple issue, it's not art theft, trying to classify this argument as such ignores the nuances and complexities of an emerging phenomenon.
Quote from: Oniya on February 08, 2024, 10:52:08 PMSo, didn't see this coming.There are apparently rising concerns about how the computational resources of generative AI (which includes both art and text 'bots') are impacting carbon emissions and fresh water resources. Simply training GPT-3 can evaporate 700,000 liters of fresh water - and it has to be fresh, clean water so that bacteria, detritus, and other inclusions don't gum up the cooling units.
QuoteJudiciously deciding "when" and "where" to train a large AI model can significantly affect the water footprint. As shown in Figures 2(a) and 2(b), the water efficiency has spatial-temporal diversity - on-site water efficiency changes due to variations of outside weather conditions, and off-site water efficiency changes due to variations of the grid's energy fuel mixes to meet time-varying demands (Figure 2(c)) [44,65]. In fact, water efficiency varies at a much faster timescale than monthly or seasonably. Therefor, by exploiting spatial-temporal diversity of water efficiency, we can dynamically schedule AI training and interference to cut the water footprint.
Quote from: LostInTheMist on February 10, 2024, 08:15:03 AMThere is some use to AI image generation, and that's getting EXACTLY what you want for a character model in a role-playing game without learning to draw yourself. As someone who can't draw a straight line worth a damn, and who can't afford paying an artist to draw characters for me, I really appreciate having such a tool available. I usually do use actors or models, but with AI, I have, on occasion, been able to generate (for example) elves or cardassians or andoorians or [etc.] without having to rely on the few examples of such exist in art or television/movies. (Even elves run up against a difficulty when you're looking for a brown-skinned, green-haired wood-elf dual wielding a dagger and a hand-axe wearing green and brown clothing and riding boots.)As someone who really wants a picture, I'm used to compromise. AI art allows me to eschew the compromise in many cases....
Quote from: Darwishi on February 10, 2024, 12:16:49 PMThis is why, I think, most traditional artists (illustrators mostly) get irritated with AI art. A lot of people go in saying "I'm not an artist, but look at this amazing piece of AI art I generated." If you generated a piece of art with a tool... then you are, in fact, an artist. =P For example, for the most part I'm more of a graphic designer/animator. I use computer programs to come up with designs and/or animations. I do not illustrate with a pencil and paper nor do I animate with cells and a peg board. Traditional animators from back in the day (talking about before Flash or After Effects existed) may consider what I do not "animation" or not "graphic design"... all because I use different tools. What's interesting to me, is this thought that because you do art with AI that you are not an artist. You even said it yourself (more or less), when you ARE an artist, you just use a different tool. I find that it's not that you're "not paying an artist" but you have the vision in your mind and would rather create that vision yourself. Since you can't use pencil and paper, you are using the tools that you have available. You're an AI artist, wear the artist badge proudly.
Quote from: CriminalMindsFan on February 11, 2024, 11:38:22 PMWhen I can't tell difference between a female model with a real heart beat and an AI generated model on social media, there is a problem with society in general.
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