The DC Universe Online Thread

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AllieCat

Well, we seem to have enough interest in the game for at least a small thread:

DCUO is an action RPG, not only do you have to work with movements (standard W,A,S,D), button presses for actions (1-6 for standard, 7 for gadgets), mouse buttons also do attacks. Your left mouse button taps do b asic attacks, right do ranged/stronger attacks (and you can do combos when learned by either a combo of button presses, or by holding down the button.. It defaults to fullscreen, you can do windowd, but so far I've had to reset it up EVERY time *grumbles*

Social.. I'm not to pleased about, it's a very.. busy outlook. But before I go into all the details of my likes and dislikes, I wanna know who else is playing..

I've created two characters so far on server 8 BRAVE NEW WORLD, AllieCat and Thera.

Lyell

I wanna join ya, but I think I'm on another server. Thankfully it's early enough that starting over won't be a huge pain.

I too am displeased with the social aspect of the game, but only because the UI is sooo clunky. Considering all the other MMOs SOE has deployed, this is disappointing.
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HairyHeretic

How does it compare with the other supers MMOs, City of Heros / Villains or Champions?

Free to play, monthly fee, or hybrid?
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Heaven Sent Blossom

Monthly fee, it compares poorly in most areas with the other super games. Customisation is very, very limited (especially when you compare it with Champions) both in power sets and in costume selection. Granted costume selection is improved via loot drops that you start picking up from the very start of the game, however that kind of defeats the purpose of a super hero costume frankly.
It does has it's selling points though, the voice acting is solid and the inclusion of recognisable DC heroes and villains as NPCs is pretty damn swank. Also it's basic combat system takes its cues more from God of War than World of Warcraft, which is an idea that more MMOs need to consider frankly.

The UI seems to me to be mostly a hold over from it's cross development with the PS3 to be honest.
Personally if they fixed what they broke during the closing stages of beta (No Sony, a trash mob should NOT be a threat to my super hero no matter what level I am at, this is not up for discussion.) then I would be sorely tempted to pick this up. I might grab it when it drops on Steam, or alternatively see if the PS3 copy is region free and look into importing it.
Honestly though with Champions going free to play at the end of the month (and who knows, it might even have content by now) I may just jump (back) on that bandwagon instead.

Hemingway

I have to wait until I get paid, which is still almost a month away, but I consider getting it. I've been hearing things I like about it, and the thought of bouncing around Gotham is appealing.

The thing I like the most about it, is the combat system. Basically, I'm of the opinion that WoW has more or less perfected the system they use ( with auto attacks and skill bars ), so any game that tries to emulate that system completely, is going to fall short. I find that in most games like that, the skills are basically the same as in WoW, but usually less interesting versions. Having a combat system that's actually different ... is such a nice touch.

Right now, the main argument against is that The Old Republic is .. well, 3-9 months away ( Q2/Q3, I think ), and I'm definitely going to play that unless it fails completely and utterly - which, of course, it won't. I'm not against playing an MMO for just a few months, but that does make it slightly less interesting.

Sinful Intention

I'm curious about DCUO.  I'm a big DC comics fan, I grew up on Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman etc and so this game has some appeal to me.

I've also been playing City of Heroes for 5 years now and I "love" that game.  It's the only MMO that's been able to hold my attention past a weeks time.  So I'm a bit spoiled by having a game that I feel is pretty deep, has lots to do and lots of customization options.

From what I've heard so far,  DCUO doesn't have a ton of customization and it's not all that deep combat and powers wise, mostly just button mashing and basic skill trees...

Is there more to it than that?  I haven't played it and won't until there is a way to get the game installed and get a trial account without paying money,  I don't have money to waste on an MMO that I'm not going to like.  Though If I could try for free and I liked it, I'd certainly consider it. 

I've heard nothing good about Champions though, I visited their forums and got scared off, it was bad.  but I'll be curious to try it when it goes F2P soon. 

Lyell

Quote from: Sinful Intention on January 15, 2011, 01:39:23 AM
From what I've heard so far,  DCUO doesn't have a ton of customization and it's not all that deep combat and powers wise, mostly just button mashing and basic skill trees...

I'll probably say this more as curiosity grows, but if all you do is mash buttons in an uncoordinated fashion, you will not succeed. It plays like a fighting game and mundane attacks rely on timing, juggling and stun mechanics that must be cycled or suffer diminishing returns. It also requires proper reaction time to guard and dodge effectively.

Skill trees exist in pretty much any MMO with level advancement. No suprize there? o.O

Customization options are limited to two bodies, the iconic male and female in small, medium or large. There IS however a wealth of gear, hair color and style options to choose from to start with. Beyond the starting choices, there are many possible styles that are unlocked through play.

You are also able to retain a specific look. Your appearance is your decision. You can switch to more powerful gear for the stats and revert to another look if you so choose.
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Sinful Intention

Quote from: Lyell on January 15, 2011, 04:46:58 AM
but if all you do is mash buttons in an uncoordinated fashion, you will not succeed. It plays like a fighting game and mundane attacks rely on timing, juggling and stun mechanics that must be cycled or suffer diminishing returns. It also requires proper reaction time to guard and dodge effectively.

Well I didn't say that the button mashing would be un-coordinated, but what you're saying doesn't sound all that deep for an MMO, which is supposed to last for a while.

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Skill trees exist in pretty much any MMO with level advancement. No suprize there? o.O

Yes, skill trees exist in many RPGs, MMO and otherwise, but some are much more basic than others.  My comment was I've heard the skill trees are still very basic, not deep, not terribly interesting etc.

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Customization options are limited to two bodies, the iconic male and female in small, medium or large. There IS however a wealth of gear, hair color and style options to choose from to start with. Beyond the starting choices, there are many possible styles that are unlocked through play.

You are also able to retain a specific look. Your appearance is your decision. You can switch to more powerful gear for the stats and revert to another look if you so choose.

To be honest this doesn't tell me much.  Do you get to have multiple costumes,  are there a lot of different costume options?  Is it just unlocking different weapons in the game like wow, and once you unlock them can you continue to cycle through the different types of swords (or pistols, whatever) Or once you have one look do you have to go back and find that other sword again to get that look back ?

Lyell

Quote from: Sinful Intention on January 15, 2011, 12:27:30 PM
Well I didn't say that the button mashing would be un-coordinated, but what you're saying doesn't sound all that deep for an MMO, which is supposed to last for a while.

No less deep than WoW. Use different skills at different times in cycles and off cooldowns. Actually, that's pretty much all MMOs that involve power resources and health reserves.

QuoteYes, skill trees exist in many RPGs, MMO and otherwise, but some are much more basic than others.  My comment was I've heard the skill trees are still very basic, not deep, not terribly interesting etc.

Welcome to day...5? WoW (pardon me for comparing the two, it's the only similar game I have adequate experience to compare to) wasn't terribly developed either and specs were horribly inbalanced and clunky. Every attempt to improve them was also met with more of the same and tweaks were constantly necessary to bring them in line.

That being said, I've only used the Martial Arts/Acrobatic/Gadget combination. The graphics for the skills are lack luster and basic on the PC, but it was essentially a PS3 port. I'm sure development will make changes. Also, the current level cap is 30. I HIGHLY doubt it'll stay that way. As more content is realeased the cap will likely go up and skills will be added, too.


QuoteTo be honest this doesn't tell me much.  Do you get to have multiple costumes,  are there a lot of different costume options?  Is it just unlocking different weapons in the game like wow, and once you unlock them can you continue to cycle through the different types of swords (or pistols, whatever) Or once you have one look do you have to go back and find that other sword again to get that look back ?

Each gear slot has its own individual setting, not full suits. You can use harmonious sets or individual favorites hodgepogged together. You only need to equip gear once to gain the appearance. Appearance of gear and power of gear can be completely separated. You like Hat A, but Hat B has better stats. Equip Hat B, go to the costume tab and select hats, and every style of hat you've ever equipped will be availible. Hat B can now be made to look like Hat A. So can C,D, or whatever, similarly so for any piece of equipment.

I've seen cheetara and boba fett, as well as hit girl. And you can KEEP te look, ofcourse.
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Zaer Darkwail

I may get DC Universe Online once I get money for it (released in 19th day in my local store but no money). But also Star Wars: Old Republic is coming in this spring so it depends on released vids and comments that do I buy the game or not as I cannto buy two MMO games in single year (nor have money hold two accounts active, so I would need leave WoW after subcriction ends).

But I am curious; How 'Hand Blast' visually looks? Is it blast of energy and can you choose color and shape of the blasts? Also read from talents that you can spec even perform 'melee blasts' with said weapon spec?

Heaven Sent Blossom

DC probably has the most depth of any MMO combat system to date, however that's not really an accomplishment when you stop to think about it.
It lacks the complexity of the type of games that it is actually aping, however it's certainly a step in the right direction for the genre depending on who you ask.

Hand blast is, if I recall correctly from the beta, pretty barren of customisation options as far as visuals though. This isn't Champions, customisation in general is pretty limited out of the box. I think you might be able to change the blast colour, but that's about the limit.
Hand blast is a pretty versatile set though, and personally I would rank it as the best of the "ranged" specs from my beta experience.

Zaer Darkwail

I found dozen Youtube vids and also wiki for DC Champions which answered my questions quite a lot :). I would buy the game if it was not for because I am more hyped about Star Wars: Old Republic which is suppose to be launched in spring.

Also; WoW:Cataclysm is not bad but after six years of gaming in it.....need something fresh.

Hemingway

So, I got the game. I doubt I'll be playing longer than until the release of Old Republic, but with any luck, it'll keep me going until then!

I haven't tried the game itself, because ... I'm one of those people who's an absolute perfectionist when it comes to character creation. I've spent an hour with it already, and haven't even decided on my character's gender. Oh, well.

It would be better if I could turn off the incessant droning music.

Hemingway

Well, I cancelled my subscription already. I spend hours trying to make a character, but there's just not enough options to create anything original. Everything is incredibly limited, in a way that just stifles my imagination, and doesn't let me pull off the concepts I really want.

The gameplay itself isn't bad, per se, but it doesn't even begin to get close to a proper combat system. It's like a mix of Arkham Asylum and WoW, and only succeeds in making me wonder why I'm not playing one of those instead. It would've been so much better if they just scrapped the WoW-like skill system and the quests entirely.

Shjade

Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on January 17, 2011, 02:09:47 AM
But I am curious; How 'Hand Blast' visually looks? Is it blast of energy and can you choose color and shape of the blasts? Also read from talents that you can spec even perform 'melee blasts' with said weapon spec?
Your colors are determined by what brand of power you're using. Nature hand blasts would be green, fire hand blasts come out red, etc. You can't have red ice hand blasts, for instance.
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Hemingway

By the way, anyone else have trouble with the launcher? Over half the time, it won't work.

Lyell

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 10:26:04 AM
Well, I cancelled my subscription already. I spend hours trying to make a character, but there's just not enough options to create anything original. Everything is incredibly limited, in a way that just stifles my imagination, and doesn't let me pull off the concepts I really want.

Just gonna put these here...

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Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 10:26:04 AM
The gameplay itself isn't bad, per se, but it doesn't even begin to get close to a proper combat system. It's like a mix of Arkham Asylum and WoW, and only succeeds in making me wonder why I'm not playing one of those instead. It would've been so much better if they just scrapped the WoW-like skill system and the quests entirely.

It's an action adventure game and I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the WoW-like assessment. There is no auto-attack or block. The skills themselves are mostly combo extenders or enhancers. Using Powers willy-nilly is for the most part discouraged from what I've seen in deeper play, and using something just because it's off cooldown may actually be a really bad thing to do. There's an incredible skill gap as well. I watched one lvl 6 player take out two lvl 11s that were trying to double team him. It hasen't gotten past the DPS/Healer/Tank trinity but it has added a complication in the form of the controller. One is needed as a form of a power battery.
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Zaer Darkwail

Gorgeous chars pics. Indeed, it may lack customization in power sets wise but you can edit lots ways your appearance. Also you can specialize in way you like and also they do plan add more content and additional powers as game gets older.

Anycase how's the League (guild) system in the game?

Lyell

Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on January 23, 2011, 02:16:44 PM
Anycase how's the League (guild) system in the game?

Unfortunately I haven't had time to toy with this function. They only just recently fixed the league chat so I haven't seen a point in joining one till now.
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Hemingway

Quote from: Lyell on January 23, 2011, 02:00:56 PM
Just gonna put these here...

Well, two things.

Firstly, many of the pieces you're using, aren't available when you're creating your character. In anything other than a superhero game, I would've liked the system, but when I'm playing a superhero, I'm creating a concept I'm planning on sticking with. Clothes are only part of it, too. You can't edit your facial structure ( which is especially bad considering how ugly some of the models are! )

Which leads to the second thing, the fact that it's not just limited appearance-wise. The powers you pick are either dull, or are designed for roles I don't care for. The weapons aren't that bad, but things like bows just don't work, in my experience. Apart from that, weapons are pretty limited, but still the best part.

Quote from: Lyell on January 23, 2011, 02:00:56 PM
It's an action adventure game and I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the WoW-like assessment. There is no auto-attack or block. The skills themselves are mostly combo extenders or enhancers. Using Powers willy-nilly is for the most part discouraged from what I've seen in deeper play, and using something just because it's off cooldown may actually be a really bad thing to do. There's an incredible skill gap as well. I watched one lvl 6 player take out two lvl 11s that were trying to double team him. It hasen't gotten past the DPS/Healer/Tank trinity but it has added a complication in the form of the controller. One is needed as a form of a power battery.

The fact remains it has skills in the style of WoW. It would've been a better game without them. In other words, if it played more like Batman: Arkham Asylum.

Which is also the problem with the combo system. It just feels so weak and bland. Arkham Asylum has amazing combat, because Batman jumps around kicking people in the chin and smashing heads, in a way that feels both fluid and powerful. In DCUO, I don't feel powerful at all, and combat isn't visually satisfying, either.

Lyell

You've got me on the model customization, but I don't believe it would play as smoothly as it does if they weren't streamlined.

As far as combat goes, well...what did you expect? You're not only a fresh superhero straight off the chopping block so to speak, you're comparing someone who just became a DC hero yesterday to one who's been a badass for several years (timeline wise). If I were as strong as the DC heroes and able to take on the super villains single-handedly, I would not bother playing with others (a key aspect of a MMO). As for the visuals...it's fresh out of beta. They're going to tune and polish it for their audiences eventually or they wouldn't have kept PC/PS3 servers separate. I'll keep you posted when/if it happens if you're interested.
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Hemingway

Quote from: Lyell on January 23, 2011, 03:25:23 PM
You've got me on the model customization, but I don't believe it would play as smoothly as it does if they weren't streamlined.

They could've given us more choices. Being able to make a big, burly hero doesn't help much when his face is so ugly I couldn't bring myself to playing him.

QuoteAs far as combat goes, well...what did you expect? You're not only a fresh superhero straight off the chopping block so to speak, you're comparing someone who just became a DC hero yesterday to one who's been a badass for several years (timeline wise). If I were as strong as the DC heroes and able to take on the super villains single-handedly, I would not bother playing with others (a key aspect of a MMO). As for the visuals...it's fresh out of beta. They're going to tune and polish it for their audiences eventually or they wouldn't have kept PC/PS3 servers separate. I'll keep you posted when/if it happens if you're interested.

It's not just the visuals. Controls, everything. It feels choppy, sort of like the melee system from Alpha Protocol. Which was not exactly that game's finest point. I would've expected something more polished and dynamic from a game that's more or less about fighting.

As for my character's strength, there's a serious discrepancy. It takes a heck of a lot of punches to kill an enemy, which in and of itself is tedious. But at the same time, I can take way more damage than them, and survive insane falls. I find myself wishing both enemies and myself were more powerful. A few hits should be enough to kill enemies. There's precious little point in being a superhero when even basic henchmen give you a hard time. It's pointless.

Shjade

@Hemingway:

If, as you say you'd like, both you and your enemies were more powerful, you'd be punching them the same amount of times (since they were buffed along with you), you'd just be punching with bigger numbers attached.

Batman's been KO'd by basic henchmen more than once. You seem to be confusing the terms "superhero" and "invincible powerhouse." They're not always the same thing. That said, all superhero MMOs do suffer from that feeling in the early stages - a superstrength hero who has to grapple with mooks? - but hey, it's the early stages. Everyone starts somewhere. Ever read Batman: Year One? Dude gets stabbed by an underage hooker, shot by a cop and almost bleeds out in his first attempt at vigilante work. Not exactly a stellar performance there, Bats.

Basically reiterating Lyell's point that you shouldn't expect to be uber from the start. You're a newbie on the hero scene. If you met the Joker right away, instead of just his mooks, you know what'd happen? He'd cream you. (Probably literally.) How's that for fun?

Solution to ugly faces: wear a mask. It's what I've had to do. Did you see the faces on the CoX characters? Ugh. Masks and/or sunglasses. However, it does suck that there are only three total body types for each gender to choose from with zero customization in that respect (supposedly going to be two more "average" body types in the indefinite future, but hasn't been any word on those models in some time).
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Hemingway

Quote from: Shjade on January 23, 2011, 08:32:11 PM
@Hemingway:

If, as you say you'd like, both you and your enemies were more powerful, you'd be punching them the same amount of times (since they were buffed along with you), you'd just be punching with bigger numbers attached.

I want both myself and enemies to do more damage, while still having the same number of hit points. There's a difference.

QuoteBatman's been KO'd by basic henchmen more than once. You seem to be confusing the terms "superhero" and "invincible powerhouse." They're not always the same thing. That said, all superhero MMOs do suffer from that feeling in the early stages - a superstrength hero who has to grapple with mooks? - but hey, it's the early stages. Everyone starts somewhere. Ever read Batman: Year One? Dude gets stabbed by an underage hooker, shot by a cop and almost bleeds out in his first attempt at vigilante work. Not exactly a stellar performance there, Bats.

Batman is just human. Sure, he's the absolute peak of what mere humans can become, but he's still just human. If my character were an average Joe who decided to wear a costume and beat up criminals, it might make sense. But I'm not. I somehow bust out of the Brainiac ship, and battle alongside Superman, but somehow basic Scarecrow thugs ( little fat men in masks! ), can take more damage than the Brainiac robots.

Also, your argument doesn't make sense, because the game does have gun-toting enemies, and bullets aren't fatal by any stretch of the imagination. No, I don't expect them to be, either, but I would like it better if I felt like my power level was consistent. That's all I'm saying.

I know, I know, it's present in all MMOs. I just find it all that more apparent when I'm playing a superhero.

Lyell

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
Batman is just human. Sure, he's the absolute peak of what mere humans can become, but he's still just human. If my character were an average Joe who decided to wear a costume and beat up criminals, it might make sense.

Okay, makes sense.

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
But I'm not. I somehow bust out of the Brainiac ship,

No, actually, either Oracle or the informant guy hacked into the system and released you.

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
and battle alongside Superman, 

Who one-shots the machines, sometimes several of them, that take you several attacks to down.

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
but somehow basic Scarecrow thugs ( little fat men in masks! ), can take more damage than the Brainiac robots.

You could destroy the brainiac machines. The thugs are misunderstood human beings that need to be incarcerated and rehabilitated. You're subduing them for the police to arrest, not killing them. Trust me, killing them would be easier.

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
Also, your argument doesn't make sense, because the game does have gun-toting enemies, and bullets aren't fatal by any stretch of the imagination. No, I don't expect them to be, either, but I would like it better if I felt like my power level was consistent. That's all I'm saying.

I know, I know, it's present in all MMOs. I just find it all that more apparent when I'm playing a superhero.

Y'know, usually it's understood in MMORPGs with HP bars (or any game with them, really. Final Fantasy for example) that it's not an actual representation of damage you can take, so much as it is how much damage you can avoid directly killing you before you are so battle-worn you actually die. But, whatever.
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Shjade

Quote from: Hemingway on January 23, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
Also, your argument doesn't make sense, because the game does have gun-toting enemies, and bullets aren't fatal by any stretch of the imagination. No, I don't expect them to be, either, but I would like it better if I felt like my power level was consistent. That's all I'm saying.
It is consistent (with the exception of the robot durability, maybe): mooks aren't known for being marksmen. You can get winged quite a few times without it slowing you down much.

But yeah, ultimately it's just a game mechanics thing. Lyell puts it in story terms pretty well.

Also, I'm not sure why you'd find upping the damage while keeping health levels the same an improvement. That means you'd get KO'd by mooks faster, too. How would that be any different from struggling with them the way you do now, in terms of your heroism?
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Arandrocles

I am just getting to play on a friends account but I have had a blast in the character creation so far. So much so I have not actually created a character. Sure, I have imagined plenty of things that are not options (15ft prehensile hair blades) but it still has been a lot of fun. We create a character and my bud and I make up their story. Then start all over again! lol Anyone else having that much fun with char creation?

Yorubi

Not much of a gamer but... admitting... I loved the character customization in Champions online... an inner geek that I have that really I don't even go about pleasing that much haha. Either way It did look interesting but I've heard its lack luster. Its not likely I would pay for it seeing how I don't play any pay to play games really myself (well honestly very few to begin with but thats another story). The biggest sell I have is the joker is in it (I don't know why I like crazy characters but I do ^^;; ) otherwise I don't really know about it. I probably would just wait for champions to go free then to maybe waste some of my Christmas money on this for a month and possibly not play it again.  I'm a sucker for customization and I just probably wouldn't be to happy with it to be worth spending $ on it.

Hemingway

Quote from: Shjade on January 24, 2011, 03:48:51 PM
Also, I'm not sure why you'd find upping the damage while keeping health levels the same an improvement. That means you'd get KO'd by mooks faster, too. How would that be any different from struggling with them the way you do now, in terms of your heroism?

It would be different, because I'm not "struggling", I'm finding it tedious. I think a faster pace would improve it a lot.

That said, at least my newest character, who goes around swinging a big ass hammer, can pretty consistently kill enemies using just one combo. Which is really slow, but at least it feels genuinely powerful.

Cold Heritage

This is free to play now. I've been doing so since Saturday-ish and I had a good time with it. It's pretty simplistic, and I'm kind of let down by only four power types, but eh. The thing though is that it's getting a lot of traffic from free to play, so earlier in the day I was ~5500 in queue to login. Then a couple times I had to leave the game because the game borked itself, so I had to queue again, and then, I got stuck on the post-queue loading screen.

But in-game it was pretty fun wailing on baddies. It's neat going from ALWAYS BRIGHT, ALWAYS SHINY Metropolis to ALWAYS GRIMDARK Gotham.

Flight also seems like the only way to move. I haven't tried super-speed yet, but acrobatics is kind of not enthusing me.
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Sabby

There's more then four powers o.o I haven't tried flying yet, because there's a two character limit and I really don't wanna delete one of mine to make a new one...

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Zaer Darkwail

Oh, nice! But question; if you made lots of chars during the free month period and had one them reach max level, what happens if you apply F2P to it? Or can it apply at all for it?

RubySlippers

How bad is the download I wanted to try Age of Conana for free and it was a HUGE download, Champions Online took 18 hours doing it on and off so this has me concerned with the far richer graphics and the like. Is it worth it to buy the retail box set I suspect its alot cheaper now to play this for free?

HairyHeretic

No idea, but I expect there are FAQs on the site would tell you.
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It was 14 gigabytes for me, which isn't that bad. It was done overnight.

Zaer Darkwail

Ahaa, FAQs said those who were on monthly subscrition (or bought the box really) are automatically on premium account rest of their lives.

Capone

I gave it a try free-to-play, but there were some difficulties. Considering the sudden flux of new players, I'm considering waiting until Skyrim comes out, or the 15th (also known as the day every gamer became homeless because they spent money on games instead of bills).

I have a friend that's inexperienced in MMO's, so he's been quite biased in favor of the game. I tend to shy away from the genre, with the exception of Planetside. I think the games industry is desperate to make me change, because with DC Universe being free to play, Planetside 2 free to play and the new MechWarrior free to play, well, crap.

According to my pal, as you progress through the game you can find new outfits that permanently add to your customization options. He claims that the item is then available for any character you create later. So if one character finds the Mask of Never-ending Awesome, you can customize its appearance to another starting character. I cannot confirm this, though I do know I wasn't satisfied with my first character creation.

I have a second in mind, but I'm not sure if I'm going to try and queue in today.

I think something worth noting is this game's primary development platform was definitely PS3. I don't want to get into a PC vs. Console argument (partly because I'm Console side, and thus I tend to feel like I'm indirectly called an idiot whenever such arguments arise), but many of the flaws in the PC version may be a result of the development team giving it a secondary priority. That's my guess, at least.

Zaer Darkwail

I agree the game suits more console as I got PC and had severe problem to initiate normal chat mode when I needed it most (and no, I was not cyphering, just asking for team up for missions and such).

Also yes, you can discover outfit pieces which become permament part of char's gallery but I never got outfits to new chars I created as I do indeed need collect all of them from scrap. But considering the mentors you get different outfit earn routes and lower level missions so replay value is there (and also experiment with powers).

SinXAzgard21

I downloaded the full DCUO in about 2-3 hours.  I like the game, it is a nice break from WoW and I find it really entertaining.  Main issue is logging on, the sever is always filled up or the pop is always high so you run a big chance of being d'ced.  Other than that I like it so I'm probably going to subscribe to it so I can have the extra shit along with being able to get the expansions.
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Shjade

Decided to try out DCUO mostly to see how its character creation holds up. Answer: ehh, not so well. Not terrible, but not as flexible as I'd like.

And then the world servers all crashed before I even finished trying to set colors. -.-
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Sabby

Yeah, you see your own options, and then you get in the game and see people whose bodies are made of SPACE with robotic laser wings and massive horned helmets. Don't worry, ya didn't miss anything, when you get new loot, and put it on, you always get the stats and bonuses that come with it, but you can choose whether or not to have it show on your body, which is frankly a Godsend, when you consider a super heroes friggen identity is their costume. It takes the worry out of getting new items, and your appearance will only change when you want it to.

Capone

Yeah, I created a new sort of character, though I had to do a bit of a compromise. If you want a more lanky character, you HAVE to choose the "Spark" build...which always looks like some sort of baby-faced child.

That's okay. That's what the gas mask is meant to cover up.

I was disappointed that color customization still relied on a three-color palette. I wanted to have more options, but, well, DCUO isn't having any of that.

And then the servers required maintenance.

Yep, I'll be waiting a while before I finally get around to playing this game.

Shjade

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Quote from: Sabby on November 07, 2011, 05:37:44 PM
Yeah, you see your own options, and then you get in the game and see people whose bodies are made of SPACE with robotic laser wings and massive horned helmets.
Made of space with robotic laser wings that are still one of three colors determined by a limited palate on a body with proportions you cannot change at all.

I know you get more costume parts later. The costume parts weren't what felt limited to me.

Already uninstalled when my second created character couldn't enter the game because it just stayed on the loading screen forever.
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fancyfictions

I've been wanting to play the game but haven't been able to connect to the server since it cut me off in the middle of character creation. I'm thinking I might need to do a reinstall of the software or something to fit that little glitch.
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Capone

It might not be a glitch. It happened to me once when I first had it, using the PS3. It was right before servers went down for maintenance, and they're down for maintenance again today.

Basically, Sony didn't realize how many people were going to be jumping on board once it went free.

fancyfictions

Thank you Capone. Maybe I just keep trying when they have their maintenance periods. I'll just try again another time. I play City of Villains currently but wanted to try this one because I have friends who played it on PS3 and told me they really liked it.
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Cold Heritage

It's pretty common for people to get cut off in character generation or to get stuck in a loading screen.

Quote from: Sabby on November 07, 2011, 03:18:43 AM
There's more then four powers

There's fire, ice, magic, and gadgets, right? Or did I forget one?
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Zaer Darkwail

There is Nature (which is kind of jack of all trades type) and Mentalist (lots nice tricks like turn to look like a NPC to backstab people).

Sabby

Fire, Ice, Nature, Sorcery, Mental, and Gadgets, each with two fields.

Jacqueline

I tried it yesterday and it sucked a lot. The server was lagging so bad that it made the game completely unplayable. I ended up uninstalling it shortly after.

SinXAzgard21

What you have to understand if you are playing on ps3 is that there are only two servers and since it is launched now as f2p everyone and there mother is going to jump on it for a few months then it will die down.  You really can't say the game sucks if you only played for a couple hours and blaming it on lag.  If you are playing it on comp then only thing I need to know is what graphics card you are running.
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Cold Heritage

It's the same way for PC. There's just a PvE and PvP server.

But the game doesn't really do a good job of giving you much incentive to keep playing beyond a few initial hours. The level cap is 30, and the powers just aren't that exciting. I've put in probably 20-25 hours between two characters, and I honestly don't know how I'm supposed to be tanking with an ice guy. I don't even know how the power that covers me in ice armour even works.
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SinXAzgard21

Quote from: Cold Heritage on November 08, 2011, 10:45:05 PM
It's the same way for PC. There's just a PvE and PvP server.

But the game doesn't really do a good job of giving you much incentive to keep playing beyond a few initial hours. The level cap is 30, and the powers just aren't that exciting. I've put in probably 20-25 hours between two characters, and I honestly don't know how I'm supposed to be tanking with an ice guy. I don't even know how the power that covers me in ice armour even works.

If you are doing alerts with random people then it is a pain in the ass, no one heals.  I don't understand why but that is sorta what I've figured out thus far.  If you have a decent group like the one I had earlier today, mostly everyone follows you and waits for you to rush a group and use defensive powers to raise aggro, then then they start damaging the shit around.   As far as the power goes you have to use cold snap an number of times before you transform.  The game isn't really new user friendly, you gotta read and hope for a good team for alerts or just play with people you know so that things can be organized. 
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Jacqueline

Quote from: SinXAzgard21 on November 08, 2011, 10:38:15 PM
What you have to understand if you are playing on ps3 is that there are only two servers and since it is launched now as f2p everyone and there mother is going to jump on it for a few months then it will die down.  You really can't say the game sucks if you only played for a couple hours and blaming it on lag.  If you are playing it on comp then only thing I need to know is what graphics card you are running.

Yes I can say it, I'm on PC and it's not a problem on my side, everyone was complaining on the chat. It sucks because SOE obviously messed up. They can't handle the amount of players that are online and still the area didn't seem as full as I have seen areas in other games, we were only 20 or so people. So yes, the game does suck because it's unable to handle a large number of players. As for content I don't know, but does it matter? If a game is so laggy that is unplayable then you can't see any content.

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Quote from: Elenwe on November 09, 2011, 05:16:59 AM
Yes I can say it, I'm on PC and it's not a problem on my side, everyone was complaining on the chat. It sucks because SOE obviously messed up. They can't handle the amount of players that are online and still the area didn't seem as full as I have seen areas in other games, we were only 20 or so people. So yes, the game does suck because it's unable to handle a large number of players. As for content I don't know, but does it matter? If a game is so laggy that is unplayable then you can't see any content.

I play on ps3, but the game is also graphics heavy so a lot of people playing are probably running mid to low end graphics cards or even integrated graphics cards.  I get issues playing from 5-8 pm any other time I've not had an issue but those happen to be my best times to play games so it has mostly become a weekend game for me when my wife isn't on duty.  They never expected it to take off like this when it went f2p and they are working on fixing the servers... They really should just add more servers but with the rate of people joining and not subscribing it may not happen.  I guess we'll see.
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fancyfictions

I finally got connected today. I'm enjoying it so far. I'll probably bounce between this one and lord of the rings online for a while.
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Cold Heritage

Quote from: SinXAzgard21 on November 09, 2011, 02:05:41 PM
I get issues playing from 5-8 pm any other time I've not had an issue but those happen to be my best times to play games so it has mostly become a weekend game for me when my wife isn't on duty. 

Are PS3 and PC playing on the same servers? Like, when I'm playing on PC and it's 1 pm and I'm 5805 in queue am I waiting along with PS3 users?
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Sabby

We should probably list our characters here, so we can hook up =3

My Hero is Unit 01, and my Villain is Cutcut. PvE server.

SinXAzgard21

Quote from: Cold Heritage on November 09, 2011, 07:25:45 PM
Are PS3 and PC playing on the same servers? Like, when I'm playing on PC and it's 1 pm and I'm 5805 in queue am I waiting along with PS3 users?

No, pc and ps3 run different servers.
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Cold Heritage

I'm kind of lost as to the relevancy of saying you have no problems when you're playing on a whole different server and all then.
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Shjade

Quote from: Sabby on November 09, 2011, 07:29:18 PM
We should probably list our characters here, so we can hook up =3

You probably shouldn't since Off Topic threads are visible to unapproved members.
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Quote from: Shjade on November 09, 2011, 11:51:12 PM
You probably shouldn't since Off Topic threads are visible to unapproved members.

It actually isn't personal information, so you can post it if you feel like. 
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Capone

I think for something like game characters it might be okay. Maybe.

I'm going to wait a while, but will share my character info once I can get into the swing of the game. As I've said before, once Skyrim comes out, as well as everything on the 15th (Halo: Anniversary, Super Mario 3D Land (the two that get my cash), Assassin's Creed: Revelations, Saint's Row: The Third, Need For Speed: The Run, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Zelda: Skyward Sword...). So once those games are all out, a bunch of people will likely drop DC Universe Online, at least for the time being.

SinXAzgard21

Quote from: Capone on November 10, 2011, 03:59:59 AM
I think for something like game characters it might be okay. Maybe.

I'm going to wait a while, but will share my character info once I can get into the swing of the game. As I've said before, once Skyrim comes out, as well as everything on the 15th (Halo: Anniversary, Super Mario 3D Land (the two that get my cash), Assassin's Creed: Revelations, Saint's Row: The Third, Need For Speed: The Run, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Zelda: Skyward Sword...). So once those games are all out, a bunch of people will likely drop DC Universe Online, at least for the time being.

Well with Skyrim having 500 playable hours, I'm sure DCUO will be dropped for a long while.
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