Ultimate marvel interest check

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fallensaviour

I have an idea or two for a serial comic book style story set in the marvel 1610 (ultimate) universe set after ultimatium (around curent time frame (death of spider-man)), i would prefer original characters. and i will more than likely be using the mutants and masterminds 3rd edition system unless people prefer free form.

JDrew Spider

"Congratulations, you are no longer the most screwed over person on the planet". JD

Spider Hole
Apologies

1SAZ

I'll take a crack at it. Been a while since I kept up with the Ultimate story line, but still interested in it.

Angel Fire

I have not read the Ultimate storyline and I would not mind a system game (if someone can teach me the rules) but I would like to play my own version of Firestar (she would be a OC) if that is all right with you all.
Can you capture this fiery Angel and make her yours?!  Try before she slips away into the night... If you wish.
May we spread our wings and soar the heavens together for all time - Angel
My Theme Song - Can I be your Heart's Desire?

Kolbrandr

what would the power level and point totals you have in mind be?

fallensaviour

power level 10,
storm was last seen alive cradling a dead/dying cyclops (he was assasinated on the white house steps at the end of ultimatium)
and liz allen is alive and well... in california last time she was seen former mutant hating person till she found out she was a mutant...and she'd been going to school with spidey...and dated johney storm 2x


but again i'd prefer original characters to canon ones...

Muse

  I'm quite fond of original character superhero games with systems and quality roll players.  I am not, however, well versed in this setting, and I'm still learning M&M 3rd.  (I did fine in second.) 

  If you'll bare with a newb, I'd love too. 

  A few things you might want to address include what kinds of sexual content you want too include and how often you'd like too post. 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

fallensaviour

true, hmm i believe sex shouldnt be the focus of the game, but if it happens i'm not going to stop it...random villians might break it up but yea :P and for those not versed in the setting...

this should be able to help people with backstory on ultimate verse

1SAZ

Well, keep in mind that sex does occur for plot reasons in the Ultimate storyline, so there is that.

Also, I have a few ideas for characters rattling around in my noggin, so I'll hold off on picking one of them till everyone else has tossed in their concepts.

Callie Del Noire

#9
Don't suppose I could play Spidergirl?

I'd prefer M&M 2e though. :(

fallensaviour

...again i was looking for original chars, not the ones from the universe already...

and you want to play peter's genderswapped clone?

JDrew Spider

Oc's are fine by me, but I'm not familiar with systems..
"Congratulations, you are no longer the most screwed over person on the planet". JD

Spider Hole
Apologies

1SAZ

I'll be happy to help anyone who doesn't know 3e with character building if Fallen can teach the gameplay bits.

fallensaviour

i can fake my way through it enough :D

1SAZ

Fair enough sir, fair enough.

So, would you like to put up a character sheet of some sort? Something to either help us figure out our OCs or to actually build our OCs. I know I have a general idea now that I've worked through my collection of concepts till I figured out which one would actually fit in the Ultimates-verse. :P

fallensaviour


1SAZ

I meant a sheet to post on here. Or a template of how you would like us to set up our characters for you to go over. Whichever. haha

fallensaviour

 actually apparently one of the tabs on there outputs in a template for posting on forums

1SAZ

Oh, well that's convenient. I normally use Hero Lab's demo mode to make my character, but I'll give that a shot.

fallensaviour

hero lab is easier, but not free ;p

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: fallensaviour on June 19, 2011, 01:01:10 AM
...again i was looking for original chars, not the ones from the universe already...

and you want to play peter's genderswapped clone?

Always felt she was under utilized. 

Hero lab I have all the 2nd edition stuff, never got 3rd edition.

Foxy DeVille

When you say original as opposed to canon, would that be completely original or would Ultimate version of mainstream Marvel characters that don't have an Ultimate version yet be acceptable? Also, are we all going to be heroes? Will we be an official team? Where do babies come from? Does this outfit make me look fat? Why do you hate me when I show you nothing but love?

Callie Del Noire


Hmm.. how about one of Otto's other experiments? Someone he cobbled together from 'borrowed' samples for the  CIA but got lost during the Ultimatum event. So you got a supersoldier with no recall of her past and the power of someone with the supersoldier formula in her veins. :D

I got the MM3e stuff unlocked on my copy of hero lab but I'm NOT sure of the system as I am with 2e and as a result not sure if I can cobble up a Ultimate super soldier.

fallensaviour

Quote from: Foxy Oni on June 19, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
When you say original as opposed to canon, would that be completely original or would Ultimate version of mainstream Marvel characters that don't have an Ultimate version yet be acceptable? Also, are we all going to be heroes? Will we be an official team? Where do babies come from? Does this outfit make me look fat? Why do you hate me when I show you nothing but love?
foxy, i like the way you think who'd you have in mind? and remember to push the orgin story so they'd be getting started around 2000-2001 cause thats about where the timeline is. also no scarlet spider or ms marvel...they're secret identity names are in universe already as dr conners then dr octavious's reasearch assistant and head of shield respectivly... i'd prefer heroes, and if you're an official team i'm thinking more defenders level than xmen or ultimates level ie, you may individually have skills, but you havnt really had time to practice the teamwork bit yet

and callie i'm interested in your idea, pm me some more details

Callie Del Noire


fallensaviour

i think foxy is still interested

Foxy DeVille


1SAZ

I'm still interested too, just trying to work out how I want to handle my character concept.

Muse

  Oh, lordy, here I go again. 

  Hm...  Vorpal or Witchblood? 

  Do we need a guy more or a gal? 

  I have other ideas...  Bajillions.  :) 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

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fallensaviour

well i personally dont care cause i dont see the sexing being a major plot element, but i'm not going to stop you guys from doing it, just know i'm REALLY bad at rping girls, and i've never tried during sex...so

Callie Del Noire

Still not sure what sort of codename to give my character. :D  thinking something like the label she was under when she woke up. :D

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Foxy Oni on June 20, 2011, 07:15:46 AM
Damn skippy!

So.. skippy.. what do you want to play ?

I'm thinking that mine falls under the 'Combat Monkey' category.

Foxy DeVille

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 20, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
So.. skippy.. what do you want to play ?

I'm thinking that mine falls under the 'Combat Monkey' category.

A young speedster that's eager to please...  O:)

Callie Del Noire


Foxy DeVille

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 20, 2011, 09:06:53 PM
Oh? Do tell! :D

She's a rather demure German fraulein that thinks she isn't good enough for the big leagues and feels the need to prove herself. She tends to be subservient to strong personalities.

Callie Del Noire

Well we need a few more folks.  :d

Foxy DeVille

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 20, 2011, 01:32:45 PM
Still not sure what sort of codename to give my character. :D  thinking something like the label she was under when she woke up. :D

Biohazard!

So concept-wise we have a speedy chick and a super-soldier chick, with Muse and 1SAZ sounding like they're ironing out ideas.

Foxy DeVille

So what's the status on this puppy?  ???

Callie Del Noire

Awaiting more players I suspect. 

fallensaviour


Callie Del Noire


Muse

*Chuckles*  Can someone help me with the system? 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

fallensaviour


Muse

Construction and the first little bit of playing 'til I'm confident in the new system? 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

fallensaviour

hmm..that reminds me i should start statting villians :P


easiest way would be to take one of the templates :P but from what i remember from dc adventures its not that bad

Foxy DeVille

Yeah, I just tinkered with a template to make my character. What sort of supe were you shooting for, Muse?

Muse

I tend to be really creative with them.  Sometimes too creative. 

We have a supersoldier (Captain America style) and a speedster? 

Okay: 

Gabrial Roland
Codename: "Legend"
Powers:  Tall, muscular and fit, Gabriel summons golden and silver energy that he believes to be byproducts of the world's stories.  He forms the golden into armor, shields, and blunt weapons that strike with supernatural force.  He forms blades form the silver that slice with seemingly beyond momo-molecular sharpness. 

Despite the energy source Gabriel taps into, he is a mutant, and has no shame in the fact.  He aspires too be an x-man and to write fantasy novels.  He learned swordplay in the SCA and from studying Kuk'sul'wan.  His family are social workers, and he has liberal--if strangely naive--political views. 

The destruction of books in his presence causes him physical pain.  He was incapacitated for the duration of a church book burning and suffered migrains the rest of the week, but was only knocked prone by the bombing of a library, leading him too believe that his weakness isn't particularly reactive too the number of books destroyed, but rather the rate over time. 
A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

Callie Del Noire

Hmmmm

Name: Valerie Hobson
Codename: Wartoy
Powers: Engineered supersoldier, Using DNA from two survivors of the Erskine experiments of the 1940s by Doctor Otto Octavian. Heightened physical abilities and resistances.

Background (still working out with GM)

fallensaviour

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 25, 2011, 05:13:14 AM
Hmmmm

Name: Valerie Hobson
Codename: Wartoy
Powers: Engineered supersoldier, Using DNA from two survivors of the Erskine experiments of the 1940s by Doctor Otto Octavian. Heightened physical abilities and resistances.

Background (still working out with GM)

octavius

Muse

Name:  Gabriel Roland
Codename: “Legend” 
Height:    6’3”
Weight: 222lbs
Skin: Olive
Hair: Raven in a shoulder length pony tail. 
Eyes: Storm cloud

Drawbacks: 
--Motivation:  Doing Good: Gabriel’s parents are social workers, his grandfather a retired priest.  In his up bring, his reading, and his politics, he has never wanted to be other than be like his heroes.  He has a long list of them, fictional, historical, and eminent.  Mahatmas Gandhi, Jesus of Nazareth and John Paul II.  Druss the Legend, Malcom X, and his own parents.  Charles Xavier and Hank McCoy. 
--Social Status:  Gabriel is an unregistered mutant. 
--Weakness:  The destruction of stories—particularly books—within his awareness is painful too him.  If the destruction is prolonged, it can be debilitating. 

Strength   4
Stamina   4
Agility      2
Dexterity   2
Fighting   4
Intellect   3
Awareness   3
Presence   3

Dodge      2+2   =
Fortitude   3+4   =d20+7
Parry      4+4   =d20+
Toughness   -+4+8   =d20+12 (Impervious 8)
Will      10+3   =d20+13

Acrobatics         2+2   =
Athletics         6+4
Close Combat: Swords   4+4
Close Combat: Unarmed   3+4   
Deception         2+3   +2
Expertise: Creative Writing   4+3
Insight            2+3
Intimidation         0+3
Investigation         4+3
Perception         4+3
Persuasion         4+3   +2
Ranged Combat: Throwing   4+2      
Slight of Hand         0+2
Stealth            0+2
Technology         ----
Treatment         ----
Vehicles         3+2

Advantages: 
Assessment
Attractive
Benefit: Wealth (Well off)
Connected
Equipment
Improved Critical: Swords X2
Improved Disarm
Improved Initiative X2
Interpose
Languages X2
Leadership
Power Attack







Powers: 

(10)   Copper Constructs: Create Rank 5


(16)   Silver Armor: 8 Impervious Protection (Sustained)


(12)   Damage Powers (Strength Based): 
Golden Shinai:  (STR+8 Damage)
   Alt Power
Silver Blade   (Str +2 Piercing Damage)
   Alt Power
Golden Rod   (Strength +7 Damage at Close Range) 
   Alt Power
Silver Spike   (Strength+1 Piercing Damage at Medium Range) 


A link for all of us who ever had a shouting match with our muse: http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

How to set this Muse ablaze (O/Os)

When the little angel won't appear no matter how many plum blossoms you swirl:  https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=135346.msg16474321#msg16474321 (Major update 5/10/2023)

Callie Del Noire


fallensaviour

i was hoping for more than 3...:/

Corinthi

How would you feel about an Ultimates version of Hellion (Julian Keller)? As far as I can tell, he's not turned up in the Ultimate Universe.

Hellion's an arrogant, entitled mutant with a serious superiority complex. He's got the standard mutant Telekinetic suite of powers. Telekinesis, flight, force fields, and kinetic energy blastiness. Seems like a flying blaster could round out the group a bit, and with the Telekinesis, he could help serve as rapid transit for the non speedsters.

fallensaviour


Corinthi

Codename: Hellion
Name: Julian Keller
Motivation: Responsibility

Abilities - 20pts
Str: 0 Sta: 0 Agi: 0 Dex: 0
Fig: 0 Int: 4 Awa: 4 Pre: 2

Defenses - 20pts
Dodge: 6
Parry: 6
Toughness: 0/14*
Fortitude: 0/8*
Will: 12
* w/ Forcefield

Combat
Initiative: +0
Telekinesis: +8, 12 damage. 

Advantages - 10pts
Attractive x2, Benefit (Wealth Rank:4), Connected, Languages(Cantonese, Spanish), Well Informed

Skills: Ranks(Bonus) - 25pts
Ranged Combat (Telekinesis): 8(8)
Intimidation: 8 (10)
Perception: 6 (10)
Persuasion: 8 (10)
Expertise (Business): 10 (14)
Expertise (Architecture & Construction): 5(9)
Expertise(Politics): 5(9)

Powers - 75pts
Telekinesis
     Move Object 12 Ranks (Damaging, Precise) 37pts

Force Field
     Protection 14 ranks (Sustained)
     Fortitude 8 ranks (Sustained) 22pts

Flight 8 ranks 16pts

Complications
Motivation: Responsibility
Fame/Bad Reputation: Celebrity Mutant Bad Boy - Think River Phoenix as a mutant back in his day.
Responsibility: New CEO of Keller Construction
Temper: Hellion has a short fuse and a small tolerance for frustration, which can be bad for a guy who can toss a bus with his mind.

Total points: 150

Biography
Spoiler: Click to Show/Hide

Julian Keller has always been a black sheep and a bit of an embarrassment to his hard working parents. He was born with both a silver spoon, and a chip on his shoulder and takes pride in being kicked out of some of the best private schools money can buy. His attitude was made worse by his powerful mutant ability, which his parents begged him to conceal. He refused, claiming that it was bullshit that he should try to pretend to be fucking normal when he was so much more. So, his parents sent him to Emma Frost, hoping that she could teach Hellion some discretion.

Well, that was a big, fat, failure.

After being cast out by Emma, Julian was basically turned lose to do what he would. His father hoped that he'd burn out those wild oats and learn a bit of maturity. He didn't. In fact, it seemed as though Julian had a neverending stream of wild oats, and was seen spending time with some of the most notorious starlets Hollywood had to offer. His antics were some of the most popular clips TMZ had to offer.

All that changed when the Tsunami hit Manhattan. Julian was in Boston when he heard the news and flew straight to New York, flying faster that he'd ever managed before and leaving sonic booms in his wake, but it was too late. His parents, along with millions of others, were dead. He found their waterlogged bodies still holding each other. For once in his life, he didn't throw a tantrum. Oh, he wanted to. With tears blurring his vision he wanted to break the world in half so everyone could feel the pain in his heart. But in a rare moment of self realization, he realized that people did already know. So many people were dead or missing that the world knew the pain of this moment. And maybe, if he was lucky, he could rescue others and spare their loved ones.

The rescue effort was equal parts jubilation and heartbreak. He threw in with the XMen and other superhumans to work search and rescue, using his telekinesis to clear rubble shore up damaged structures. A lifetime of training to one day take over the family business came in handy, for while he couldn't triage the wounded, his understanding of structures came in very handy. Where many people had lost their lives that day, Hellion was reborn. For the first time in his life, he saw past his own petty concerns and took stock of something larger than himself.

The Keller Construction board was very surprised when Julian didn't just sell the company. They never believed that he'd be interested or even able to carry on his parent's life work. But he was determined, and is using his company's resources to rebuild the city. The work isn't as profitable as the Board would like, which is a constant struggle, but as he owns nearly 60% of his company's stock, Hellion doesn't really care what they think.

So, with a bad self image, a ferocious temper, a grieving heart, and a corporation to run, Hellion is out to make the world a better place, even if he has to bust some heads to get it there.

A Picture

Callie Del Noire

Teaser- Got bored and trying to get a feel for the super solider of the group.


The drug deal was going down right beneath her. Twenty five feet of sheer drop lay between Val and her latest target. The result of two weeks of stalking, shadowing and making note of who was getting what from whom. The comic books made it seem to be the easiest thing in the world to find the bad guys but it was hard work, a lot harder than the stuff the other kids at the shelter did. Of course most of them could claim to things she couldn't. Like a social security number, a real name and a past. She didn't have any of that.

Nico told her what was right to wear, Gert was the one that explained the slang and stuff the others said, and Chase didn't freak out when she broke the weight machine in a fit of pique. So she was learning the socialization stuff, slowly but surely. The GED course was a joke, she had the books read and down pat in a week and was bored out of her mind doing the stuff at the pace the others were doing. It was like she was a sponge soaking up information. Truth be told if she hadn't wanted to fit in a little, she'd have bailed on the shelter by now.

Of course no one knew that she had woken up after the Ultimatum wave in a pile of metallic pods that held a variety of bodies. She had been the only one to survive and by the time she had come to her senses and tried to find the building again she had run straight out for 4 hours. Which gave her a search radius of several hundred miles all considered. Most of which didn't look anything like it had that terrible night.

Her thoughts came to a close as the car pulled into the warehouse and the men stepped out to meet the ones she had been shadowing. She pulled on her gloves as she shifted her position on the beam. The biker's helmet slid on next as she tensed up, preparing to move. Muscles coiled like steel springs as she swung under the beam and held on while she watched. In the darkened warehouse, she watched as the men pulled out a gym bag that turned out to contain a mound of white bags and a brief case that showed the tell-tale flash of green she'd been looking for. She shifted to pull the heavy lib she had pulled up from a nearby alley and let it go. The rounded disc whistled towards the parked Escalade as she dropped twenty feet to the car beneath her.

The manhole cover tore through the driver side of the Escalade while she flattened the car's roof top and kicked off towards the first man to turn towards the sound of her landing. Her kick hit him square of the sternum and drove him across the warehouse floor as a hand snapped out to spin her around towards the two men in front of the ruined Escalade as they turned to see what happened as she flicked the downed man's gun at the last man. The last man took the 9mm to the temple and dropped like a bag of turnips.

Then she landed among the last two men and exploded into action.

Two hours later.

"What do we have?" The detective asked as he walked over to the wreckage of the drug deal. The patrolman covering the scene looked around with a 'are you joking' look.

"Well Detective, this is the fifth deal we've seen broken up in the last year. Central says that the Narcotics had these gents here." He pointed to the four men tied to a nearby column with a wave of his hand. "are some of the newcomers that came out of the mess of the tsunami. Big men in the new drug world. We found what must have been Twenty grand in product doused in lighter fluid and those." He pointed to the ruined cars.

"Someone is very very angry." The Detective said with a whistle.

"And the folks in the bay are asking if they can take over." He said pointing in the direction of the Triskelion.

"Grand.. they are being 'diplomatic'." The Detective grumbled as he looked at the imprint on the hood. If it was larger a size 6 boot print, he'd eat the hood.

Outside.

Val watched from the shadows as she took in the crime scene investigation team working the sight. Her boots would have to go, again, she noted as the detective pointed to the hood. Perhaps it was time to find a new money making scheme, she thought to herself as watched the forensics team work. They didn't have all the toys the ones on TV had and it seemed they weren't as sharp as the ones on those shows either, but they had numbers and time on their hands.

"Maybe it's time for Wartoy to move on, Manhattan might be getting a bit too hot these days." She murmured. It was kind of risky playing in the Ultimates backyard, she noted as she looked skyward to see a line heading out towards the Triskelion. Word was that Queens was the stomping ground of Spiderman and a few others these days, the Bronx had some guy kicking the shit out of gang members and the Punisher had been seen all over town. Boston was beginning to look more and more attractive, she thought as she considered how to spend the twenty grand in her backpack. Time to look into getting the tattoo on her neck covered again and leaving down, she thought grumpily as she scratched at it. Her metabolism blew off most tattoos in a few weeks and the barcode on the back of her neck was something she didn't want anyone to find.


Foxy DeVille

#56
Some stuff on my character idea...

Blitz-Beine (German for "Lightning Legs")
Real Name: Angelika Marie Gauss
Date of Birth: 28 May, 1982 (age 17-19 in the campaign)
Place of Birth: Munich, (then-West) Germany
Height: 5'4"  Weight: 116 lbs.
Hair: Blonde  Eyes: Blue
Measurements: 34C-24-35

History: Angelika Gauss is the daughter of a Bavarian State Police officer killed in the line of duty when she was very young. As a child, Angelika became interested in gymnastics and had hopes of going to the Olympics. When she was 16, she was involved in an automobile accident when the car she was in struck a power pole. Rushed to the hospital, it was discovered that the exposure to electricity had given her superhuman speed. Angelika was recruited into Spezialjäger ("Special Hunters"), Germany's small but official superhuman team. After a period of training, Angelika was given a costume and the codename Blitz-Beine. Due to the high cut of her outfit's bottom, some members of the German media dubbed her Blitz-Backen ("Lightning Cheeks") much to her chagrin.

Recently, Blitz-Beine was chosen was selected by Germany as a liaison to SHIELD following the Ultimatum tragedies. While honored to be part of such an international gesture of goodwill, Angelika worries if she is somehow underperforming and is thus expendable. So far she has mixed feelings about her mission, having already acquired another unwanted nickname from some SHIELD agents... Chicksilver. Meanwhile back in Germany, a young reporter has uncovered some discrepancies in Blitz-Beine's origin tale. For one thing, there is no sign of an accident occurring where it is said to have happened. The leadership of Spezialjäger is aware of his investigation and relocated Angelika while they consider their options.

Appearance: Blitz-Beine is a young blonde with long hair she wears braided. She has a small scar on her face near her chin she says is from the accident that gave her the powers she has. Her uniform consists of a sleeveless long-sleeved tunic that leaves her muscular legs bare. It also exposes a great deal of her buttocks, much to the delight of aficionados of female super-heroes. Blitz-Beine has the dubious honor of being voted "Ultimate Ass" according to one popular lad's mag. Her uniform varies in color, usually it is white but she also has versions in green, pink, blue, and black. She wears either a garrison cap or a beret, which gives her something of a military look, and protective bracers on her forearms. She also paints lightning bolts on her legs as a nod to her alias.



Personality: Angelika tries to always come off as a no-nonsense professional. She tends to follow orders from superiors with little question. A big reason for this is that she is a fairly insecure person and doesn't think she is taken seriously. As a result, Blitz-Beine is always eager to please in hopes of getting some sort of validation.

Callie Del Noire

'Chick-Silver'.. bwahahahahahahha. I like it. :D

Callie Del Noire


fallensaviour

rl is bein kind of a bitch with the joblessness and the main computer going out to be repaired

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: fallensaviour on July 12, 2011, 08:03:01 PM
rl is bein kind of a bitch with the joblessness and the main computer going out to be repaired

Ick..I know about the joblessness bit. :( Been out of work and living off my disability/GI Bill while doing school. Only Avionics Job I've been offered in the last 12 months is the one in town I'm blacklisted for the length of the current contract.

Callie Del Noire

Come on folks.. I'm sure there is SOMEONE out there who wants to join in. :D