Employers, colleges demanding facebook logins

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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Trieste on April 03, 2012, 11:02:06 AM
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, in a job interview I don't have a Facebook, a Twitter, or any other social media save perhaps LinkedIn (which I never use).

If I have to give something its' my LinkedIn account (I like wise don't use) or I'd set up a Google+/Facebook from my 'biz' email. Then scrub my 'personal' one for connections. (I already have taken all my personal images off of it.)

I got to admit till I read the 'faux' resignation letter, I didn't see the 'liability' side of things. Till then it was an 'invasion of privacy' thing. You could use damn near anything as 'just cause' for suing for not getting a job. It was actually kind of mind-boggling.

Cythieus

I have had a Facebook since late 2004 or very early 2005 (I think it was January) we were one of the first schools in the world to have the ability to use the site back when it was students only and back when you had to have a registered campus email to access the place. I think the biggest mistake they made was not just building off of the college platform and keeping the site like that, looking back I doubt the site would be where it is now. But by the time they made the biggest changes, Myspace was already going under.

My Facebook as it stands today is a place for me to share my blog posts, pictures I find funny and just make comments in general. I'm trying to be a writer so it's somewhat important on that side of things since I use it to get my name out there. I've never been asked to put people from work on my page, but I do have some including my supervisor. I don't really get very offensive on my page for the most part and I try to keep the politics down to a minimum because I get tired of seeing 80 pictures in a row about Political Party X doing Y. The thing when it comes to jobs and the like, I don't think they should have a right to punish you for stuff you do off the clock. There was a woman working for the newspaper here in Houston who was a college professor and a stripper too. The paper fired her for being a stripper.

I found it mind boggling, but not just that. It's wrong.

TheGlyphstone

She got fired from the newspaper, but the college didn't object? That adds a whole new level of Whut to the wrong-ness, there.

Cythieus

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on April 04, 2012, 06:08:47 PM
She got fired from the newspaper, but the college didn't object? That adds a whole new level of Whut to the wrong-ness, there.

When I first heard the story I was kind of shocked it was the paper and not the college too.

TheGlyphstone

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Quote from: Azrael, Archangel of Death on April 04, 2012, 06:09:40 PM
When I first heard the story I was kind of shocked it was the paper and not the college too.

Is it wrong of me to wonder what the effects were on signups for the courses she taught after the news broke?

EDIT: Or seeing "Employers, colleges..." as the header for this thread and wanting to cap it with "countrymen, lend me your ears"?

Tiberius

I find it pretty appalling that Americans living in the supposedly "land of the free" would so freely and openly violate what is supposed to be the no.1 thing Americans are supposed to have, free will and privacy. It sickens me that these assholes think that they have the right just because the job market is so tight they can threaten people with that. Its good though that state lawmakers are going to make this illegal but the point is, it should never have come to this.

Personally I think Facebook is evil, there is not anywhere near enough moderation on the site to keep the filth off it and keep it properly moderated and secure. There are just somethings you don't want out there. I'm not a very openly confrontational person so if I was asked for the details I'd make it up a fake account really, they'd never get my real one which I don't use much at all. Just to keep up to date with the group I'm in.

Cheka Man

**** employers who want to know what I do online. As long as I don't look at child porn, visit known terror sites or plan/incite rl crimes, what I do online should be MY bisness. I don't want to be blackmailed or worse due to what I do online. I have no use for Facebook or Twitter,as I'm not a celeb and have nothing interesting to tweet that would not get me in trouble with the  law.Mind you with me it's a moot point, only scammers want me for a job.

Izzie Aditi

*laughs* Don't have to fear that with my current job. My boss doesn't even understand e-mail that well *rolleyes* and our organization's Facebook account is connected to my boss's account...I manage the "business" account and have insight in her so-called private one..which she's never used before. Nevertheless, 1984 all over again indeed ???
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Solstice

On the one hand, this bothers me in the sense that I am, in many ways, an extremely private person. On the other hand, I'm so much of a private person that I decided facebook was a bit more than people needed to know about me and in the past two years I believe I've only used it to play Words With Friends with my family members.

That's just on a personal level, of course; the precedent it sets is extremely troubling. If this is "okay" (and apparently it is, in the eyes of the law) it makes me wonder where the line is drawn. If your employer can log into your facebook, can they change your preferences, etc.? If that information gets leaked, or "leaked," what then?

And, of course, when do they start asking for your e-mail name and password?
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Vekseid

Under the law, it probably falls under 'unauthorized computer access'. Coercing someone for their login information is a very common technique. Just because 'movie' hacking techniques are not used to not magically make it legal.

Solstice

Mm, perhaps I should clarify what I meant by that.

I was referring to the content of one of the links Callie Del Noire posted (the second one), specifically the line "Just days later, the US House of Representatives shot down legislation that would restrict employers from requesting your Facebook password" within said article.

Although, that being said, having done a bit of googling about the issue it seems that particular quote may be misrepresenting it, or rather, oversimplifying the circumstances around the piece of legislation in question.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Solstice on April 06, 2012, 01:32:06 PM
Mm, perhaps I should clarify what I meant by that.

I was referring to the content of one of the links Callie Del Noire posted (the second one), specifically the line "Just days later, the US House of Representatives shot down legislation that would restrict employers from requesting your Facebook password" within said article.

Although, that being said, having done a bit of googling about the issue it seems that particular quote may be misrepresenting it, or rather, oversimplifying the circumstances around the piece of legislation in question.

It's something that various states have started addressed. On the national level Congress is still twitchy about the words 'internet' and 'privacy' in close proximity.

Tiberius

I"d just walk out if they wanted that, they have no right to it, unless its a professional page. If personal details were asked I'll tell them to get lost. And haven't there been people suing their bosses for privacy breaches?