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Kaizen

I cannot begin to convey how awesome the first episode was.  This series has great potential.

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Jag

I loved the first episode and I'm excited for the new one tonight. ^^
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Ryven

Yes! Me too!  I can't wait! ;D

Kaizen

I already hate his partner... the douche making moves on his wife.

8 more hours to wait... it can't get here soon enough.




Star Safyre

I hate how I can't watch it when it shows.  Damn you, 5 am wake-up time!

SPOILERS... in case you didn't watch the first hour yet(?)

Actually, I feel sympathetic toward the partner.  Before the dead started walking, he had a girlfriend even if they did have a few minor issues.  She's probably dead or left him during the chaos.  He and the wife are rightfully assuming he's dead, so they've clung to each other for physical and emotional survival, even being self-aware enough to hide their possibly confusing sexual relationship from the son.  I think the partner honestly wants to take care of his partner's wife and son, not really just taking advantage of the situation.

Then again, if they'd been fooling around before the shooting, they're both douche bags.
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Izu

Hm... Am I the only one who is not all that thrilled? I mean... it started like both 28 Days Later and Resident Evil and it had nothing surprising... I know that it is based on a comic book, so no idea who stole from whom the idea, but it's just the next (same) zombie story. I just hope that they will add something interesting to the plot - twists, surprises... You know... Something that will make me remember the series once it's over.

Btw - I read somewhere that it is going to be more of a mini-series - about 6-10episodes. Not sure if it's true though.

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Star Safyre

Quote from: Izu on November 07, 2010, 12:40:38 PM
Btw - I read somewhere that it is going to be more of a mini-series - about 6-10episodes. Not sure if it's true though.

I've heard the same thing.  Hard to imagine them only doing that many episodes with so many pages of material to work from. 
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Kaizen

Quote from: Star Sapphire on November 07, 2010, 12:29:44 PM
I hate how I can't watch it when it shows.  Damn you, 5 am wake-up time!

SPOILERS... in case you didn't watch the first hour yet(?)

Actually, I feel sympathetic toward the partner.  Before the dead started walking, he had a girlfriend even if they did have a few minor issues.  She's probably dead or left him during the chaos.  He and the wife are rightfully assuming he's dead, so they've clung to each other for physical and emotional survival, even being self-aware enough to hide their possibly confusing sexual relationship from the son.  I think the partner honestly wants to take care of his partner's wife and son, not really just taking advantage of the situation.

Then again, if they'd been fooling around before the shooting, they're both douche bags.

I think the partner had the hots for the wife before the outbreak... they very well could have had an affair going.  The guy just has a sleezy vibe about him.  I also think he's trying to be the chief indian among the group of survivors.


Quote from: Izu on November 07, 2010, 12:40:38 PM
I mean... it started like both 28 Days Later and Resident Evil and it had nothing surprising...

I can't argue that, but there is a different story, one other than OMG zombies... RUN away!!!  This story introduces an element most other movies in the genre are missing, character background and development.

Dizzi

1: I've read the first three comics.  I believe that the mini seriesw will end somewhere within there
2: they have already been picked up for a second season
4: The first episode was leaked online like, two weeks early haha.  I saw it and it was goood

Ryven

Where did you see that it was picked up for a second season?  Can you give me a link?

Hunter

It had a nice twist of a beginning but quickly fell into the feeling of 'yet another zombie movie'.

Kaizen

Yep, the partner and the wife are both scuz...

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Kaizen on November 08, 2010, 06:50:40 AM
Yep, the partner and the wife are both scuz...

I get the vibe that when things went to hell the partner took advantage and took off with the wife and left him behind. I mean who leaves a friend in a coma in an hospital to be eaten?

Kaizen

I'm thinking that he convinced her that her husband died. 

Star Safyre

Quote from: Kaizen on November 08, 2010, 01:58:01 PM
I'm thinking that he convinced her that her husband died.

Seeing the state of that hospital, it wouldn't take much to convince me, honestly.
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Inkidu

I have a few qualms with the show. Sure not every zombie fiction has to adhere to the rules but they had a zombie climbing a ladder. I'm pretty sure that's a no-no. Secondly I saw one with a rock. Now, I'm all for they hold onto stuff they had in hand when they died, but who dies clutching a big old two handed rock?

I like the plot now. I hope the partner and his wife and that whole stupid little camp gets eaten? Seriously, how do you call that defensible? I only hope they have the gall to kill of a likable character. That would be unconventional writing.

Spoiler

What I like is when they left the white-supremacist up on the roof to die. Sure it was an accident, but at least it wasn't a stereotypical "Lets kiss and make up" kind of deal that you usually see. That was risky plot development.

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AtlasEros

I thought the first ep was really good, I'm looking forward to watching the second. 


On a related note, I started playing a TT RPG with some friends called All Flesh Must be Eaten which you take on the roll of characters much like those in the mentioned show.
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Kaizen

I think that most of the tough criticism is coming from zombie genre fans... It should be kept in mind that the show is meant for a much broader mainstream audience, so some things gotta give.  I think they have done a wonderful job in finding a good balance of storytelling and other elements (such as makeup/special effects and gore) so far.  I would love to see more horror and suspense.

LIAR

I didn't like the first episode. I thought it was a stupid sort of slow and it set up the same old story (but let's face it, how many ways can you tell a zombie story?) But I kept watching because my main interest was that it was a show! Character development inc, and they'll really delve into the struggles. Yeah, the first episode was same ol' boring thing, but I believe I'll enjoy the series greatly. I totally dug ep 2.

Inkidu

I love zombies and no plot gets boring to me but I would like to see the start of a major outbreak. They never do that. People escaping a rioting city. There's always time skips and Walking Dead is no exception. I would actually like to see more focus on zombies and un-savvy survivors going on instinct but Walking Dead doesn't deliver that either. All the people are zombie survival experts. La sigh...
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MasterMischief

The 28 Days After rip off had me very skeptical to begin with.  I am enjoying the character development though.

ausyandy

I loved the first two episodes.

Quote from: Kaizen on November 08, 2010, 06:50:40 AM
Yep, the partner and the wife are both scuz...

I hate that woman sooooo much. She sure was quick to move on. I can't wait to see what will happen when they meet up.

Ryven

Did anyone else want to pitch the racist off the roof? >.>

I would have.  I mean, they needed a distraction, right?

MasterMischief

Quote from: Ryven on November 11, 2010, 08:57:14 AM
Did anyone else want to pitch the racist off the roof? >.>

I certainly thought his continued existence was a liability to the group.

Kaizen

Quote from: Ryven on November 11, 2010, 08:57:14 AM
Did anyone else want to pitch the racist off the roof? >.>

They could not have found a better actor to fill the role. 

I don't balme the man, I blame his upbringing... (lol)

But he could be a valuable asset to the group.  He's an amazing shot, taking headshots freehand while standing on the edge of a roof (it's always windy on roofs) - one aspect of TV that I despise, everyone can shoot like a pro...

MasterMischief

I believe his faults vastly outweigh his usefulness.  I would be willing to overlook his dislike for non-white anglo saxon protestants if he was willing to put the survival of the group ahead of his own prejudices.  Wasting bullets and attempting to exert control over the others were bigger sins once put in context in my opinion.  He is simply (he's not dead yet) a danger to the survival of the others.  It is pretty obvious his only concern is himself.  His skill with a firearm is pretty much made moot at that point.

Ryven

I'm with the Llama on that.  He already displayed that even during a crisis situation (zombie apocalypse making that a rather mild understatement) he would rather play white supremacist than worry about the well being of the group.  He may be a crack shot at a firearm, but if it's one thing you do not do, it is needlessly waste ammo.  The zombies he was targeting were not an immediate threat.  He would have served better being used as bait than anything else.

Izu

Okay, I liked the second episode more than the first one. And yeah, I too thought that they should/would throw the racist off the roof x'D And somehow I can see him coming after them, having eaten his hand off the cuffs, but not being a zombie x'D  Oh, and I loved the Asian guy. <3 Soooo cute at the end of the episode <3

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AtlasEros

Quote from: MasterMischief on November 11, 2010, 09:25:57 AM
I believe his faults vastly outweigh his usefulness.  I would be willing to overlook his dislike for non-white anglo saxon protestants if he was willing to put the survival of the group ahead of his own prejudices.  Wasting bullets and attempting to exert control over the others were bigger sins once put in context in my opinion.  He is simply (he's not dead yet) a danger to the survival of the others.  It is pretty obvious his only concern is himself.  His skill with a firearm is pretty much made moot at that point.
I didn't really find that character believable.  I could see him wasting the bullets sure but having that outburst just as the copy shows up which allows the copy to go from outcast newcomer to hero was just way too contrived.  I did like how the black guy dropped the key, thought that part was well done.
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Kaizen

Don't forget that he was coked up as well, which would explain some of the aggressive behavior. 

MasterMischief

Quote from: Kaizen on November 11, 2010, 11:52:22 AM
Don't forget that he was coked up as well, which would explain some of the aggressive behavior.

That only reinforces my feelings on the matter.  If he is not normally that aggressive it shows very questionable judgement to allow himself to get into such a posture considering the situation.

Inkidu

Quote from: MasterMischief on November 11, 2010, 02:23:59 PM
That only reinforces my feelings on the matter.  If he is not normally that aggressive it shows very questionable judgement to allow himself to get into such a posture considering the situation.
That's not a really good defense, because lets face it: In the face of a zombie apocalypse some people are going to party like there's no tomorrow.
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Ryven

Quote from: Inkidu on November 11, 2010, 02:33:44 PM
That's not a really good defense, because lets face it: In the face of a zombie apocalypse some people are going to party like there's no tomorrow.

And that is their choice.  Those trying to survive, however, do not have to put up with it.  If you're going to be a part of the group, be a productive part.  Don't endanger the rest because you want to have a good time.

midnight diamond

I just watched the first episode on the AMC website, and I have to say that up until the deputy-sheriff ran out of gas, it was good. After that, there were so many predictable mistakes he made that it was just...anticlimactic. I thought that entering Atlanta on horseback and 1, not leaving right away or 2, not ditching the horse and travelling on foot (which is MUCH quieter than the sound of iron horseshoes on pavement) was once again predictable. I also thought that the introduction of the 'survival party' was much too soon. I would have liked to see more of the deputy on his own before the others were introduced.

I don't normally go in for zombie shows, although I liked the Resident Evil movies. From the hype Walking Dead has been getting, I have to say I was severely disappointed in it. I was expecting some new twist on a zombie theme, so to find that it was 'just another zombie show' was a major let-down.

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Ryven on November 11, 2010, 08:57:14 AM
Did anyone else want to pitch the racist off the roof? >.>

I would have.  I mean, they needed a distraction, right?

I foresee him showing up to make folks regret it later on.

ausyandy

Quote from: Ryven on November 11, 2010, 08:57:14 AM
Did anyone else want to pitch the racist off the roof?

When I first saw him, I was like "oh cool" because I quite like the actor. But then he started talking and I thought "Oh, what a douche" and was disappointed.

Quote from: Izu on November 11, 2010, 10:48:48 AM
  Oh, and I loved the Asian guy. <3 Soooo cute at the end of the episode <3

+1 Totally agree.

Quote from: midnight diamond on November 12, 2010, 01:37:12 AM
I just watched the first episode on the AMC website, and I have to say that up until the deputy-sheriff ran out of gas, it was good. After that, there were so many predictable mistakes he made that it was just...anticlimactic. I thought that entering Atlanta on horseback and 1, not leaving right away or 2, not ditching the horse and travelling on foot (which is MUCH quieter than the sound of iron horseshoes on pavement) was once again predictable. I also thought that the introduction of the 'survival party' was much too soon. I would have liked to see more of the deputy on his own before the others were introduced.

My thoughts exactly. I was shocked that he'd get on a horse, then trot on into a city. What the hell was he thinking.

Ryven

If he did everything perfectly to the letter of the Zombie Survival guide, there wouldn't be much of a show.

midnight diamond

Quote from: Ryven on November 12, 2010, 07:32:53 AM
If he did everything perfectly to the letter of the Zombie Survival guide, there wouldn't be much of a show.

This is true....but do his mistakes have to be so glaringly obvious? He may as well have started shouting in the middle of the street calling for survivors. Something a little more imaginative would have been nice.

Ryven

Quote from: midnight diamond on November 12, 2010, 12:11:42 PM
This is true....but do his mistakes have to be so glaringly obvious? He may as well have started shouting in the middle of the street calling for survivors. Something a little more imaginative would have been nice.

That really depends.  It seems like they're portraying a setting where the prevalence of zombies is not well known.  In the real world, zombies have been in pop culture enough to let almost anyone know the cardinal rules when dealing with them.

If in this world, it looks as if zombies have hardly been mentioned at all, so it's a little more understandable that he didn't have much of a clue of what he was getting into.  Plus, it was never mentioned how wide spread the zombies were though he should have had a clue from the deserted streets upon walking into Atlanta.

They did make a point of mentioning the way that zombies perceive which leads me to believe they didn't have much of a clue about them until the outbreak hit.  It might just be me, but I can overlook some of the mistakes given the other information they've shown.

Kaizen

For some reason I'm thinking the outbreak is isolated to Atlanta (or maybe the southeastern US) in the current storyline.  It would make sense to keep some cities populated for later seasons to develop. 

I would like to see a National Guard vs. Zombies battle...

Ryven

Quote from: Kaizen on November 12, 2010, 12:33:38 PM
For some reason I'm thinking the outbreak is isolated to Atlanta (or maybe the southeastern US) in the current storyline.  It would make sense to keep some cities populated for later seasons to develop. 

I would like to see a National Guard vs. Zombies battle...

Hmm, that's a very good point. 

MasterMischief

Actually, I thought a horse was an excellent choice.  Finding gas will become increasingly difficult.  Care and feeding of a horse may be more demanding than a car, but far more sustainable in a post-apocalyptic environment.  A horse also works well as a second pair of eyes.  Not necessarily, literal eyes, their hearing and sense of smell are better than a human's and could alert you to danger before you see it. 

Also, if he encountered trouble, as he did, it would be (in theory) easier to outrun on horseback than foot.  The angles they used did not satisfy my curiosity on how he got so easily surrounded.  At first sign of a large group of zombies, I would have turned tail and run...er...galloped off.  But then, as mentioned above, if the characters always did the smart thing, there would not be much of a show.

I was sad to see the horse get chomped.  Even then, its sacrificed allowed the deputy-sherrif to escape.  At worst, I think he should have tried to put something over the horseshoes to muffle the noise.  Beyond that, I think the horse was a much better option than a car or going in on foot.

Jag

Quote from: MasterMischief on November 12, 2010, 12:48:54 PM
Actually, I thought a horse was an excellent choice.  Finding gas will become increasingly difficult.  Care and feeding of a horse may be more demanding than a car, but far more sustainable in a post-apocalyptic environment.  A horse also works well as a second pair of eyes.  Not necessarily, literal eyes, their hearing and sense of smell are better than a human's and could alert you to danger before you see it. 

Also, if he encountered trouble, as he did, it would be (in theory) easier to outrun on horseback than foot.  The angles they used did not satisfy my curiosity on how he got so easily surrounded.  At first sign of a large group of zombies, I would have turned tail and run...er...galloped off.  But then, as mentioned above, if the characters always did the smart thing, there would not be much of a show.

I was sad to see the horse get chomped.  Even then, its sacrificed allowed the deputy-sherrif to escape.  At worst, I think he should have tried to put something over the horseshoes to muffle the noise.  Beyond that, I think the horse was a much better option than a car or going in on foot.

I agree. He ran out of gas and needed something to help him carry his supplies and get him through the last length of his trip as quickly as possible. The horse was there. What did people expect him to ride into the city with? A bike?
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Inkidu

Actually I like seeing them make mistakes. Not everyone is going to have there copy of The Zombie Survival Guide memorized. Your average person is going to walk into a city, they're going to ride an animal which would freak at the stench of the necrotic, or they're going to miss a shot (Something no one in the Walking Dead has done yet. Seriously, no on screen misses at all.) if everyone was a perfect zombie slayer the show would be boring.

(On an barely related note, I've found self-contradicting passages in The Zombie Survival Guide and hate how everyone turns to it for anything.)
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: MasterMischief on November 12, 2010, 12:48:54 PM

Also, if he encountered trouble, as he did, it would be (in theory) easier to outrun on horseback than foot.  The angles they used did not satisfy my curiosity on how he got so easily surrounded.  At first sign of a large group of zombies, I would have turned tail and run...er...galloped off.  But then, as mentioned above, if the characters always did the smart thing, there would not be much of a show.


Like the guy and his kid going back to the house rather than staying at the more defensible police station or going up the road to find something like an old national guard armory?

Bentley

I like the show. I'm not bothered too much by the inconsistencies or way the story is unfolding.

A lot of good The Zombie Survival Guide did me. I read it months ago and the most I remember are some odd bits from the chapter about muffling zombie noises.

Kaizen

Quote from: Inkidu on November 12, 2010, 07:07:14 PM
they're going to miss a shot (Something no one in the Walking Dead has done yet. Seriously, no on screen misses at all.)

I noticed that too.

Ryven

World War Z is probably better for learning about how to deal in a zombie apocalypse situation. :P  It describes various (fictional) situations that people were in and how they dealt with them.  I remember a good amount from it.  A pretty entertaining book, and it's written by the same guy who wrote the survival guide.

Inkidu

I think the problem with the show is they're kind of smoothing over all those bits about zombies and making it a show about human struggle and differences in face of disaster. Forget that. I want more zombies.

It's like why I couldn't watch Battlestar Galactica (the new one) the people even admit to it (in both series) that it's not about the zombies/sci-fi it's about the struggles/politics of people. Sometimes we just want to see someone get eaten by a zombie or fly a space ship...
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Ryven

Quote from: Inkidu on November 13, 2010, 05:37:51 PM
I think the problem with the show is they're kind of smoothing over all those bits about zombies and making it a show about human struggle and differences in face of disaster. Forget that. I want more zombies.

It's like why I couldn't watch Battlestar Galactica (the new one) the people even admit to it (in both series) that it's not about the zombies/sci-fi it's about the struggles/politics of people. Sometimes we just want to see someone get eaten by a zombie or fly a space ship...

It's only up to episode 2.  I'm sure someone is going to get eaten at some point.

Inkidu

Quote from: Ryven on November 13, 2010, 05:41:15 PM
It's only up to episode 2.  I'm sure someone is going to get eaten at some point.
I can hold out, and don't get me wrong. I like the character relation. When the guy left the racist on the roof because he didn't want to get left behind and not because of some moral or revenge issue. That was real, it was awesome.

I don't want to see the hero's wife banging his best bud in the backwoods... and I'm straight. I just don't want to see it. XD

Seriously, maybe they should make it less character focused because I haven't seen one mention of any of the characters actual names in this thread. Hint, hint.
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Kaizen

Rick is the main character's names, I couldn't tell you anyone else's though.

midnight diamond

It's only two episodes in...there's hardly been time to learn the characters' names yet. :P

Ryven

Rick, blond survivor, white supremacist survivor, young Asian survivor, black survivor...that's all I know them as right now :(

MasterMischief

Quote from: Inkidu on November 13, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
Seriously, maybe they should make it less character focused...

You mean make it more like every other Hollywood production these days?

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Kaizen

Quote from: Ryven on November 14, 2010, 08:13:30 AM
Rick, blond survivor, white supremacist survivor, young Asian survivor, black survivor...that's all I know them as right now :(

Funny how ethnically diverse the survivors are...

According to the US census records I found, Atlanta's population is over 60% Black.   Shouldn't most of the survivors be black, and the zombies too? 

Ryven

Quote from: Kaizen on November 14, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Funny how ethnically diverse the survivors are...

According to the US census records I found, Atlanta's population is over 60% Black.   Shouldn't most of the survivors be black, and the zombies too?

That would depend on how many people were able to make it out and how many people made it in to the 'Emergency Shelter' that was set up.  Given the packed highway going out of Atlanta, the population would probably have shifted a bit.

Kaizen

I'm a little disappointed at the latest episode... a ton of character development and story, but nowhere near enough zombies.  The end was neat.  I didn't think the guy would cut his hand off, that was a surprise.  I would have cut the rusted old bolt that he was cuffed to, no problem for a hacksaw.

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Kaizen on November 15, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
I'm a little disappointed at the latest episode... a ton of character development and story, but nowhere near enough zombies.  The end was neat.  I didn't think the guy would cut his hand off, that was a surprise.  I would have cut the rusted old bolt that he was cuffed to, no problem for a hacksaw.


Defininitely. Of course having a bunch of zombies screaming at you might make you panic.

Inkidu

Man I don't think I'm going to be watching this series much longer if it doesn't shape up. Rick's wife is an idiot. His friend is an idiot. That whole camp is bollocks. I haven't seen one wall. It's good and on the high ground but come on, you know zombies are coming. Otherwise, it just moves so slowly. There's a reason they only make zombie movies I guess.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Inkidu on November 15, 2010, 02:56:13 PM
Man I don't think I'm going to be watching this series much longer if it doesn't shape up. Rick's wife is an idiot. His friend is an idiot. That whole camp is bollocks. I haven't seen one wall. It's good and on the high ground but come on, you know zombies are coming. Otherwise, it just moves so slowly. There's a reason they only make zombie movies I guess.

I'm sure things will be picking up. Where one walker goes.. many will follow. I'm sure driving a car with an alarm all the way up into the mountains will drag the city walkers out and in that direction.

Inkidu

It probably wouldn't actually because. A.) They probably wouldn't know what direction by sound. B.) He was driving fast. Really fast. They're not going to catch up and lose interest.

Seriously though, I'm mad that they did a total buyback on the racist. Leaving him on the roof out of fear and leaving him to die. Awesome, good writing. Having a bleeding heart go back and try a rescue. Cliche and lame, despite the coolness of the hand cutting off thing (it's jut not cool enough, kind of predictable).
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Star Safyre

Quote from: Star Sapphire on November 07, 2010, 12:29:44 PM

Actually, I feel sympathetic toward the partner.

Quote"You told me he was dead."

I'd like to retract my previous statement.  He takes 3rd place ribbon for douchebaggary behind the racist and the wife beater.
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Inkidu

Quote from: Star Sapphire on November 15, 2010, 05:09:57 PM
I'd like to retract my previous statement.  He takes 3rd place ribbon for douchebaggary behind the racist and the wife beater.
Actually she's an idiot. Clue for you lady. We left him in a hospital, there are zombies everywhere. I assumed he was dead. People not in comas are having a hard time surviving. Duh!

I seriously doubt that he did it just to get in her pants. Though, there is an inordinate amount of ugly bumping in this series. Yeah, zombies kind of kill my boner.

"Where will you be when the zombies rise?"
"Getting my freak on."

For the love of God.
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midnight diamond

Quote from: Inkidu on November 16, 2010, 08:22:56 PM
"Where will you be when the zombies rise?"
"Getting my freak on."

For the love of God.

*gigglefits*

I'm not sure how much credence I should give to the wife. I'm assuming that his friend told her her husband was dead when they were in the process of fleeing the town and the hospital was being overrun, so she may not have had time to see it for herself. If it comes out that he knew the guy was still alive (that hasn't been established yet) then yeah. Major douchebagery going on. But it's also possible that he didn't know for sure, just assumed he was because of how bad it was getting.

Everything is so conflicted. There are a lot of loose ends, some of which should be starting to get cleaned up soon, considering there are only three episodes left. I don't think he should have gone back for the racist guy, though.

Ryven

Quote from: midnight diamond on November 16, 2010, 11:28:34 PM
*gigglefits*

I'm not sure how much credence I should give to the wife. I'm assuming that his friend told her her husband was dead when they were in the process of fleeing the town and the hospital was being overrun, so she may not have had time to see it for herself. If it comes out that he knew the guy was still alive (that hasn't been established yet) then yeah. Major douchebagery going on. But it's also possible that he didn't know for sure, just assumed he was because of how bad it was getting.

Everything is so conflicted. There are a lot of loose ends, some of which should be starting to get cleaned up soon, considering there are only three episodes left. I don't think he should have gone back for the racist guy, though.

Not necessarily.  They've been signed for a second season,so they could hold over some loose ends until then.

Callie Del Noire

They were signed for a second season BEFORE the pilot aired. That told me that AMC is looking to make it part of their line up. Looks to be fairly well backed by the guys at the network. I like Breaking Bad and the Village, not so much into about Mad Men but a lot of my buddies like it. I like Rubicon but still playing catch up. :D

MasterMischief

I am still enjoying it.  I have to disagree with you, Kaizen.  I am tired of mind numbing action without any character development.  Of course, I was a Caprica fan too, so I am obviously not a target demographic.

I have not decided on the partner yet.  I think the biggest tell is that he was obviously not happy to see his friend alive.  Until then, it was possible he simply did not think his partner in a coma could have survived the zombie apocalypse and thought saving his partner's family a higher priority then going back to check.  Also, if they had both come clean immediately, I would be more inclined to forgive.

Neither of them waited for his body to get cold before they were getting it on, so I am leaning toward them both being rather selfish.

Going back for the racist is a poor tactical decision even considering the guns.  Still, following a survival guide makes for a poor story (any gamists paying attention?).

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: MasterMischief on November 17, 2010, 07:18:55 PM
I am still enjoying it.  I have to disagree with you, Kaizen.  I am tired of mind numbing action without any character development.  Of course, I was a Caprica fan too, so I am obviously not a target demographic.

I have not decided on the partner yet.  I think the biggest tell is that he was obviously not happy to see his friend alive.  Until then, it was possible he simply did not think his partner in a coma could have survived the zombie apocalypse and thought saving his partner's family a higher priority then going back to check.  Also, if they had both come clean immediately, I would be more inclined to forgive.

Neither of them waited for his body to get cold before they were getting it on, so I am leaning toward them both being rather selfish.

Going back for the racist is a poor tactical decision even considering the guns.  Still, following a survival guide makes for a poor story (any gamists paying attention?).

What's wrong with Caprica? I like it a lot. Of course I'm all about the virtual world bit. :D

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Quote from: MasterMischief on November 17, 2010, 08:32:18 PM
Character development.

I think it would have gone a bit more interesting if they had kept the bit where the bomber had an avatar as well (that was in the mini-series dvd)

And killing off 'Spike' took a lot of the factionalism out of the monotheists

Kaizen

YES!!

The fourth episode did not disappoint. 

Inkidu

I didn't even remember that the fourth episode was coming on. Not a good sign for what I think about this show, or my continued viewing. Which is sad, because I really love anything zombie. You could make Zombie Kirby and I'd play it. The only reason I didn't buy L4D 2 was because of its multiplayer focus.
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I like a show mainly about character development. The fact that it is not about a family or a group of friends, is a plus to me.  I really liked the fourth epiosode.  :-)

Jag

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Glenn is so adorable. ^___^ I'm glad he hasn't died yet.
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Quote from: Michi No Sora on November 23, 2010, 09:11:28 AM
"What did you do before this?"

"Delivered pizza...why?"


Glenn is so adorable. ^___^ I'm glad he hasn't died yet.
I would say "he should be alive for a long time," but since they're already taking some pretty wide deviations from the comics I suppose that isn't really a sure thing.
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MasterMischief

I thought the fourth episode was the best yet.

Star Safyre

From my limited experience with zombie/slasher films, I learned that characters should NEVER have sex, run blinding, or go to the bathroom.

After watching the first two happen without gory horrific deaths resulting, I let my guard down.  Never again...
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Quote from: LeonSolidor on November 23, 2010, 03:17:36 AM
I like a show mainly about character development. The fact that it is not about a family or a group of friends, is a plus to me.  I really liked the fourth epiosode.  :-)
Yeah, but it's like they threw the zombies in for varnish. I want more zombies.
Though watching this show has made he realize why it hasn't been attempted before. Zombies do not lend themselves well to serial viewing. Movies fine, games fine, hell they even made Pride and Prejudice readable for me; just not in a T.V. show I guess.

The problem is it's pretty much a bad idea to have character development where people are supposed to be human tic-tacs. Now I like seeing beloved and invested characters bite the big one, but A and B T.V. viewer typically don't go for that. I foresee some predictable dying patterns emerging.
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MasterMischief

The problem is it's pretty much a bad idea to have character development on any t.v. show or movie.  More boobs and explosions please.  kthxbai   ::)

Yeah, you are probably right.  It will probably get cancelled halfway through next season.

Star Safyre

I don't think the zombies are so much thrown in as their purpose in the story has changed drastically.  During the initial few episodes, especially when Rick was traveling alone, the zombies acted as antagonists.  Now they just seem to blend into the milieu.
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I like the character development. I agree with Star, I don't think they zombies are just thrown in. They serve their purpose. How much fun would it be to watch a bunch of zombies trudge around an empty city for an hour and catch maybe a stray dog here and there? Unless it was like that zombie love letter comic strip...
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This is after the big die off remember? Folks who are alive know the rules and what to do/not do to draw the attention of the walkers. They, mostly, lay low and scavenge. (Me, I'd be looking for a few police/sherrif stations though)

Inkidu

I think some people missed the point. Of course there are going to be characters and inevitably character development but it seems the zombies swiftly took a back seat to the characters. It shouldn't be characters defining themselves through hardship and struggle. It should be struggle and hardship against zombies that forges people.

Seriously. I have not seen one onscreen missed shot. Everything they do is golden in the end. I haven't seen one person fuck up or drop the ball (zombie-wise). Plus people are screwing all over the place. That just screams to me. Lets make a melodrama and stick zombies in it. Zombies are the new vampires!
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Does anyone else think that Daryl should be using a Irish Brogue. And saying a Prayer with Big guns.
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Quote from: Pellafin on November 28, 2010, 07:38:42 AM
Does anyone else think that Daryl should be using a Irish Brogue. And saying a Prayer with Big guns.

We want him to ask, "What you need fucking _____ for?"
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Decides to drop by.. :o

I saw that they wanna make it a TV show ^^ a friend of mine recommended me a site where I can watch it online xD [since I can't dl >.> damn DL speed] T.T  :-\ with me being a big fan thing..and the Z's :P

I was expecting for this to watch..since  very long time, but never got the chance nor the time..until now : D haha!  I will come back with a better comment at least, after I see 1 episode.
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I still hate the partner and I am waiting to watch the recent episode tonight. I hated what he has done and what he is doing behind the back of his supposed best friend.
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I am with you Marg. >.> Shane still did what he did to his best friend's wife..I am thinking if he really regrets it now that Rick is back.I'm at epsd.4 now, things are looking interesting so far ^.^
-still curious how things will develop from now on.. :P
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Bentley

I'm watching it now. Unless my ears decieved me, they borrowed some music from the 28 Weeks Later soundtrack. This amuses me.

Marguerite

Again, still hating the partner and almost at the end of tonight's episode.
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Bentley

I know I said that I didn't mind how things were going and whatnot, but I don't know now. Scientist guy is like Standard Zombie Media Character #5. I'll wait and see what happens with him next week though.

Callie Del Noire

I like that fact that you see the partner start to melt down. He's still a tool though.

Marguerite

Hopefully the tool is dead by the last episode next Sunday.
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Quote from: Inkidu on November 23, 2010, 09:34:05 PM
I think some people missed the point. Of course there are going to be characters and inevitably character development but it seems the zombies swiftly took a back seat to the characters. It shouldn't be characters defining themselves through hardship and struggle. It should be struggle and hardship against zombies that forges people.

Seriously. I have not seen one onscreen missed shot. Everything they do is golden in the end. I haven't seen one person fuck up or drop the ball (zombie-wise). Plus people are screwing all over the place. That just screams to me. Lets make a melodrama and stick zombies in it. Zombies are the new vampires!
I suspect you'd feel differently about this if zombies were at the forefront of the show. All zombies all the time gets old real quick. Think about horror movies that show their main monster all the time compared to the ones who only bring it out to actually do something. There's more impact behind their appearances if they aren't just constantly around.

That and trying to separate the characters "defining themselves through hardship and struggle" without including that what they're struggling against is the zombie apocalypse seems like cutting hairs pretty thin. They ARE struggling with hardships caused by zombies; part of that struggle is trying to stay the hell away from zombies whenever possible because not being detected by the endless shambling dead is Step 1 of Not Getting Dead.

All that aside, the show seems to be treating zombies much the same way the comic did: they're tidal. There are times when it's just jesus zombies everywhere for long stretches of panic mode, then there are long stretches of relative quiet when the survivors managed to get out of range of the horde and can lay low in something resembling safety for a while. If there hasn't been much zombie activity in a while you can pretty much bet that there will be a lot of it coming up soon, or some other equally violent conflict. It's pacing.

That and the title may be a little misleading. "The Walking Dead" doesn't just refer to the zombies, after all.

I can see your point, I just disagree. ^.^
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Quote from: Bentley on November 29, 2010, 12:41:10 AM
I'm watching it now. Unless my ears decieved me, they borrowed some music from the 28 Weeks Later soundtrack. This amuses me.

It tickled me too. I don't know if it's 28 theme, but it does sound like they took it and made it their own which I've seen happening a lot in zombie movies nowadays. I approve of it, though.

As for the show, I like it. The chance to see characters develop during the zombie apocolypse is interesting. In movies they have the boy meets zombie, boy kills zombie, boy survives, the end. They're good, but they could be so much better. The show hasn't really captured me to the fullest yet, but I enjoy it.

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Kaizen

The previews for the finale episode looked interesting.

And we learned that the zombies have taken over the planet.  The tool is still alive, nubby is still on the loose, and they just got to the CDC.

Overall I am pleased with the series, but I have to say that my expectations were much higer.  I wish there were more episodes.

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The Walking Dead facebook page put up a poll asking:

If you could play one character on The Walking Dead, who would it be?

But the only options are: Rick, Shane, Lori, or A Walker...

What about all the other people? Like Glenn, Daryl, Amy, Carol, etc...I don't really like Rick, Shane, or Lori...so I picked to be A Walker.

Who would you all be?
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Kaizen

I would choose to be one of the Vatos

MasterMischief

Quote from: Michi No Sora on December 01, 2010, 07:13:56 PM
Who would you all be?

I think I would be the Taoist Master Dale.   O8)

Ryven

I'd be Amy because she's HARDCORE!

Marguerite

I would Glenn because he has survived so far even with his antics.
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I would be Daryl because he's Badass, and the only one smart enough to know you have to destroy the brain.
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Envious

Pretty fond of Daryl also.

little princess

I can`t wait to see what happens.this Sunday is the last episode for the season

Remiel

Third vote for Daryl.  Come on.  Hunting zombies with a crossbow?  That's fucking awesome.

Geeklet

I'd have to go with Glenn, personally. Despite the end of the world, guy still knows how to have fun. I would have taken a joyride in that car too!

Pellafin

In the preview for the last episode it looks like the main char and the tool are finally going to fight, did anyone else see that in the preview or was I imagining things?
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I personally did not watch the preview, but I will say its to be expected after what happened in the last episode. Thats all I am going to say on that. While I do agree, they could have done things better, I have to say what they put out was not bad. I will most likely watch the next season.

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Inkidu

Yeah, I think I'm going to write this show off my to-watch list. Lets just say I see why no one's ever done a serial zombie show before.
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I somehow managed to see the first volume of The Walking Dead at Borders and it does stick to the show 80-90% of the time. The ending to the first volume will make me see whether or not they stick to it or go in another direction tonight.
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Ryven

In reference to the season finale (don't worry, no spoilers), my response is....

:o WHAT?! :o

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Quote from: Star Sapphire on November 15, 2010, 05:09:57 PM
Quote from: Star Sapphire on November 07, 2010, 12:29:44 PM

Actually, I feel sympathetic toward the partner.


I'd like to retract my previous statement.  He takes 3rd place ribbon for douchebaggary behind the racist and the wife beater.


I'd like to retract my retraction.


Or wait.  No, I don't.

Screw Rick.  This show's really about Shane.
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Quote from: Star Sapphire on December 05, 2010, 10:23:43 PM

I'd like to retract my previous statement.  He takes 3rd place ribbon for douchebaggary behind the racist and the wife beater.



I'd like to retract my retraction.


Or wait.  No, I don't.

Screw Rick.  This show's really about Shane.

No it's not.  I hate him.  He needs to die for his stupidity.

Marguerite

Wait, so he did not...

-Stops herself-

Damn it, not like the novel at all.
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Quote from: Ryven on December 05, 2010, 10:36:39 PM
No it's not.  I hate him.  He needs to die for his stupidity.

Wait, what?  Stupidity?  How is Shane stupid?  He is a character ruled by his emotions, sure, but I hardly call him an idiot for what he has done.  He's a perfectly flawed human being, a rather refreshing character if you ask me.


Marguerite

Quote from: Silverfyre on December 05, 2010, 10:44:43 PM
Wait, what?  Stupidity?  How is Shane stupid?  He is a character ruled by his emotions, sure, but I hardly call him an idiot for what he has done.  He's a perfectly flawed human being, a rather refreshing character if you ask me.

One who went right after Rick's wife and boned her in the forest.
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Quote from: Marguerite on December 05, 2010, 10:47:54 PM
One who went right after Rick's wife and boned her in the forest.

Yet he honestly thought Rick was dead.  Not to mention, that kind of stress would do things like that.  Combat or any sort of "life and death" scenario like they are facing would trigger those types of reactions.  They both needed someone to cling to and Shane DID get them out of the city alive.  I think that plays out for something.

Don't get me wrong: it's douchebaggery all around but still believable.  Hence why I love the character.


Marguerite

Quote from: Silverfyre on December 05, 2010, 10:51:13 PM
Yet he honestly thought Rick was dead.  Not to mention, that kind of stress would do things like that.  Combat or any sort of "life and death" scenario like they are facing would trigger those types of reactions.  They both needed someone to cling to and Shane DID get them out of the city alive.  I think that plays out for something.

Don't get me wrong: it's douchebaggery all around but still believable.  Hence why I love the character.

I want to know how long before he looked to Rick's wife and thought to lose himself with her.
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Quote from: Marguerite on December 05, 2010, 10:53:10 PM
I want to know how long before he looked to Rick's wife and thought to lose himself with her.

A good question.  We don't have much of a time frame to work with but I'd say it was at least a month or so.  ~Shrugs~ I haven't read the comics yet (working on getting copies, they are hard to track down locally since the series came out and got rather popular) so maybe they have more of an indicator there?  But from the AMC adaptation alone, I still love the character.  His flaws make him great.


Ryven

Quote from: Silverfyre on December 05, 2010, 10:44:43 PM
Wait, what?  Stupidity?  How is Shane stupid?  He is a character ruled by his emotions, sure, but I hardly call him an idiot for what he has done.  He's a perfectly flawed human being, a rather refreshing character if you ask me.

I can't give details without giving spoilers to those who haven't watched.  In my opinion, however, he could have done so much more.  Also, in this particular situation, being ruled by ones emotions isn't the best state to be in.

Silverfyre

Quote from: Ryven on December 05, 2010, 10:58:39 PM
I can't give details without giving spoilers to those who haven't watched.  In my opinion, however, he could have done so much more.  Also, in this particular situation, being ruled by ones emotions isn't the best state to be in.

Hm, mind dropping me a PM?  I'm quite curious! :)

And there is no doubt being ruled by your emotions in that type of situation is not the best state of mind to be in, but that's what makes it so believable.  Not everyone is a hard core survivalist/ex-military/super man who can keep that emotional baggage in check.  I like that they went this route.


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You can find the series on Borders or Barnes and Nobles.
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Quote from: Silverfyre on December 05, 2010, 11:00:11 PM
Hm, mind dropping me a PM?  I'm quite curious! :)

And there is no doubt being ruled by your emotions in that type of situation is not the best state of mind to be in, but that's what makes it so believable.  Not everyone is a hard core survivalist/ex-military/super man who can keep that emotional baggage in check.  I like that they went this route.

Done and done.

Bentley

Just watched the finale. Shane can go ahead and die and I won't mind.

I'm so glad Andrea was talked out of what she was going to do. She's probably my favorite character now.

Kaizen

What about the other unresolved issues?  The helicopter we saw in the first episode - where did it come from?  Merle - where did he go? Will we find out what happens to the vatos taking care of the senior citizens?

Damn you AMC...

Marguerite

Quote from: Bentley on December 06, 2010, 01:13:22 AM
Just watched the finale. Shane can go ahead and die and I won't mind.

I'm so glad Andrea was talked out of what she was going to do. She's probably my favorite character now.

I vote for Shane to die as well.

Quote from: Kaizen on December 06, 2010, 07:06:48 AM
What about the other unresolved issues?  The helicopter we saw in the first episode - where did it come from?  Merle - where did he go? Will we find out what happens to the vatos taking care of the senior citizens?

Damn you AMC...

I doubt the helicopter works if they are running out of gas.
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The Season finale pissed me off. It was totally weak. =/ There was no real character depth added, except for one certain scene, and even that seemed to be pushed aside rather quickly.

I like the series, but I'm not sure for how long they can keep it going doing that stuff.
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Quote from: Kaizen on December 06, 2010, 07:06:48 AM
What about the other unresolved issues?  The helicopter we saw in the first episode - where did it come from?  Merle - where did he go? Will we find out what happens to the vatos taking care of the senior citizens?

Damn you AMC...

That's what the second season is for! ;D


Kaizen

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Quote from: Blitzy on December 06, 2010, 12:37:06 PM
The Season finale pissed me off. It was totally weak. =/ There was no real character depth added, except for one certain scene, and even that seemed to be pushed aside rather quickly.

I like the series, but I'm not sure for how long they can keep it going doing that stuff.

Really? I thought it was a good mix of 'what happened' (sorta) and the beginning flashback added some understanding and depth to Shane... and then the scene where he's drunk and appraches Rick's wife (can't remember her name) which leads me to agree with this:

Quote from: Star Sapphire on December 05, 2010, 10:23:43 PM
Screw Rick.  This show's really about Shane.

Quote from: Ryven on December 06, 2010, 01:06:10 PM
That's what the second season is for! ;D
Indeed, I can't wait... was it November when they're going to start again?  Too long to wait.

But overall, I thought it was great how they were given complete safety, and then it was taken away the next day. And the grenade... I totally forgot about the grenade.  Good stuff.

Envious

I don't understand the Shane dislike. If anything, the wife should be getting the shit. She's acting a total bitch to the man who saved her life and her sons life, because lets face it: she'd be dead if it weren't for him. So what if he said her husband was dead. Did you guys not see the hospital on the first episode? That place was a wreck. Who could have thought someone hooked up would survive alone in that situation? Yeah, she's using the whole 'you said my husband was dead' as an excuse, but really? She's acting this way out of fear that he'll tell her husband that they had relations. Who can blame Shane for acting so emotionally crazy when the wife is being such a bitch. His emotional strength during such a difficult time just did a 180 on him.

Jag

'The Walking Dead' finale breaks ratings records.

QuoteThe ratings for "The Walking Dead's" just-ended first season have been such that perhaps AMC is wishing that it had lasted more than just six weeks.

The anticipation for the season finale garnered six million viewers, according to the network, and it received the highest ratings of any basic cable show, ever, in the all-important 18-49 demographic.

To put those numbers into perspective, October's season finale of "Mad Men" had an audience of 2.44 million, according to TVbytheNumbers.com.

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Quote from: Envious on December 06, 2010, 02:34:42 PM
I don't understand the Shane dislike. If anything, the wife should be getting the shit. She's acting a total bitch to the man who saved her life and her sons life, because lets face it: she'd be dead if it weren't for him. So what if he said her husband was dead. Did you guys not see the hospital on the first episode? That place was a wreck. Who could have thought someone hooked up would survive alone in that situation? Yeah, she's using the whole 'you said my husband was dead' as an excuse, but really? She's acting this way out of fear that he'll tell her husband that they had relations. Who can blame Shane for acting so emotionally crazy when the wife is being such a bitch. His emotional strength during such a difficult time just did a 180 on him.

He could have done more to save his friend.  The man is clueless and turning into an emotional wreck which is not what the group needs.  Rick's wife owes him nothing.  Her debt has been paid in my opinion.

rustytiger

I love this series, my roommate and guys in my dorm got me hooked on the show. I was kind of disappointed in the final episode, but I mean now I want to watch the series even more! It the ending explained everything then I'm sure I would get bored with the series soon. What I want to know is what the Lab guys whispered into Rick's ear.
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Quote from: rustytiger on December 07, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
I love this series, my roommate and guys in my dorm got me hooked on the show. I was kind of disappointed in the final episode, but I mean now I want to watch the series even more! It the ending explained everything then I'm sure I would get bored with the series soon. What I want to know is what the Lab guys whispered into Rick's ear.

I'm willing to bet that whatever it was, it had something to do with where they should try going next.

rustytiger

That's what I was thinking too, but my roomie thinks that he told Rick that his wife is pregnant or something.
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My girlfriend and I have gotten absolutely hooked on this show, and we can't wait to watch the season finale this weekend. XD  We don't get AMC at school, so we have to wait until it gets On Demand.  *has been diligently avoiding spoilers, for the most part*

I must say, Merle's brother has grown on me considerably.  That crossbow is just frickin' awesome.
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Newest poll from The Walking Dead facebook page:

Which episode from the first season of The Walking Dead was your favorite?

1. Days Gone Bye     
    
2. Guts     
    
3. Tell It To The Frogs     
    
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5. Wildfire     
   
6. TS-19 

I picked 4 (Vatos). What about you all?
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Jag

Oh, and for all the Shane Haters...they did an interview with Jon Bernthal (Shane) and this is what he had to say:

QuoteQ: Having read the graphic novel? Were you surprised Shane made it through Season 1?

A: We're trying to create a world here where at any second you could get eaten by a f---ing walker. I think it helps, as an actor, to never know when you're going to get that next script and you're done. I remember people talking about that on The Sopranos: You never knew when you were going to get whacked, and there is something similar here. All I hope is that he earns his death. I think he's gotta go, but I hope we get as much out of this character as we can.

So apparently he thinks Shane needs to die too...:P

Here is the full interview if you all want to read it.
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Ryven

*snerks*

That's saying something.  BTW, I like whichever episode had Merle hacking off his own hand.  I can't wait for him to show up again...because you know he will.

Jag

I think that was Vatos, Ryven.

I read through the whole interview and they asked him who is favorite Walker was...he said that one of the walkers outside the CDC was the executive producer's daughter and he got to shoot her right in the head. He thought that was funny. :P
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Quote from: Michi No Sora on December 07, 2010, 11:51:36 AM
I think that was Vatos, Ryven.

I read through the whole interview and they asked him who is favorite Walker was...he said that one of the walkers outside the CDC was the executive producer's daughter and he got to shoot her right in the head. He thought that was funny. :P

LOL.  I want to be a walker. :-)

Jag

Me too. Didn't they have a contest going to be a walker? I wonder who ended up winning that.
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 I tried but didn't win...

They had multiple contests I think one for each episode.

rustytiger

Ohh I think it would have been great to be a walker. The makeup and everything is amazing.
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Quote from: Michi No Sora on December 07, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
Me too. Didn't they have a contest going to be a walker? I wonder who ended up winning that.

Yeah.  My roommate scrambled to enter it each week.  Have the announced winners yet?

Marguerite

For the wife part: I think she owes something and I do hate her, do not get me wrong since I mention my loathing for Shane more often than now. However, I think she already is given her punishment of having her husband coming back, showing her still loves her, went through many perils to find her and now she has to deal with the fact that this man could potentially push her away but not his son should her infidelity come to light. I keep wondering how long the affair went on. Did it go on before the accident? After she was told by Shane that he died?

As for Shane, that man was like a brother to Rick, best friends and to see him go right after Rick's wife is a big no-no. I was surprised the graphic novel was changed but I can see why since people would have guessed what was going to happen next. However, I am glad to hear the actor who plays Shane also wants his ass dead.

My favorite episode was Vatos.
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Ryven

I'm willing to bet that they were having an affair before the zombie outbreak even happened.

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Quote from: Ryven on December 07, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
I'm willing to bet that they were having an affair before the zombie outbreak even happened.

My friend, Vi, and I thought the same thing especially with Rick explanation of how his wife has been more moody and withdrawn from him.
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I don't think an affiar was going on before the zombies took over.  If it had, then she would not have been so combative against Shane.  But then again, she did seem happier when Rick was thought to be dead.

Ryven

Quote from: Kaizen on December 07, 2010, 01:43:26 PM
I don't think an affiar was going on before the zombies took over.  If it had, then she would not have been so combative against Shane.  But then again, she did seem happier when Rick was thought to be dead.

That doesn't mean anything.  Having an affair does not negate feelings for another person.  I think the reason she became so combative to Shane was because she still thinks that he told her Rick was dead for his own benefit.  The fact that Rick not only survived but actually risked his own life to seek them out speaks high of the love and devotion he has for his wife and child.  Granted, the same might be able to be said for Shane, but Rick didn't have a possible ulterior motive for finding his wife and child like Shane does.

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Quote from: rustytiger on December 07, 2010, 10:00:17 AM
I love this series, my roommate and guys in my dorm got me hooked on the show. I was kind of disappointed in the final episode, but I mean now I want to watch the series even more! It the ending explained everything then I'm sure I would get bored with the series soon. What I want to know is what the Lab guys whispered into Rick's ear.

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Ryven

Quote from: Remiel on December 07, 2010, 03:26:41 PM
"Save the cheerleader, save the world."

*falls over dead*  I can't believe someone went there.

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I saw episode 6...and it was awesome! O:

so much tension and messed up stuff around there..my heart was like moving from the left ot he right with the tension in there and that damn Doc. not opening the door >__>
I am glad that they did managed to get out, except the black Lady. ): well, it was her choice after all, more adventure for the others in fighting the Z's and trying to find a better way out in all that crappy hell..setting loose with the "undead" and the Walkers..

can't wait for the next episode!  8-)
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While I love Walking Dead, I truly hated the final episode!

Nothing really happened::
-Everyone gets trapped in the CDC by some psycho, suicidal scientist
-With the group pissed off and the doors closed, they try to smash the weirdo's head in.
-Rick saves the day by blowing a hole through supposedly "impenetrable" glass. Oh, yeah. That lady and the crazy guy die.

Where is one-handed Merle? That's what killed me! o-0 Must they keep me waiting?

Yuppers, my favorite episode was "Vatos", except for the part when Andrea sits, sobbing over Amy for, like, five minutes of screen time.  ;)

Lisabeth

I have to Disagree Jobe. I didn't think he was a weirdo at all. He was a man morning his wife and wanting to join her. He locked the group in the CDC with him because of what Rick told him and he felt it was more humane to let them die in a instant then suffer and slowly die off one by one on the outside. They didn't become violent with him and only threatened to hit him twice. It didn't take much to get him to open the door and let them out. he wasn't a bad guy just a man that lost all hope for the human races survival.
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Ryven

I agree with Lisabeth.  Also, the series was only scheduled for 6 episodes.  There's only so much they can do in that time.  Probably that short due to trying to figure out how well the series would do, and behold, its ratings went through the roof.  I can only assume that the second season will have more episodes in it.

I think their plan is to keep people waiting.  With the anticipation of the first season, the second will surely show as much if not more enthusiasm from viewers than the first.

MasterMischief

I was still holding my hate for Shane until the final episode.  Knowing that he tried to save his buddy redeemed him in my eyes only to loose that redemption by trying to force himself on Rick's wife.  Both of them should have come clean when Rick first showed up.

I am not really sure what more he could have done with soldiers walking around shooting anything that moved and walkers around each corner.

Whatever the doc whispered in his ear better be Earth shattering.  They are all 10 seconds from dying and whatever he whispered got a visible reaction from Rick.  If it is something lame like your shoe is untied, I am going to be pissed.

Jag

Quote from: Ryven on December 08, 2010, 04:05:32 PM
I can only assume that the second season will have more episodes in it.

I believe it is set for 13 episodes. So standard season size for season 2.
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Quote from: MasterMischief on December 08, 2010, 04:27:48 PM
I was still holding my hate for Shane until the final episode.  Knowing that he tried to save his buddy redeemed him in my eyes only to loose that redemption by trying to force himself on Rick's wife.  Both of them should have come clean when Rick first showed up.

I am not really sure what more he could have done with soldiers walking around shooting anything that moved and walkers around each corner.

Whatever the doc whispered in his ear better be Earth shattering.  They are all 10 seconds from dying and whatever he whispered got a visible reaction from Rick.  If it is something lame like your shoe is untied, I am going to be pissed.

I think i know what he whispered to Rick. He told him Lori's Pregnant. 
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MasterMischief

Quote from: Lisabeth on December 08, 2010, 08:40:11 PM
I think i know what he whispered to Rick. He told him Lori's Pregnant.

Yeah, that certainly would make sense and I think that would warrant the look Rick gave him.

Marguerite

Along with the fact Shane and Lori were together, etc.
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My thoughts exactly. So on top of having to deal with starvation and the undead Poor Rick has to be messed up with thoughts of his wife having his best friends baby without medical aid. Makes for some good drama.
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Kaizen

Quote from: Lisabeth on December 09, 2010, 03:12:57 AM
My thoughts exactly. So on top of having to deal with starvation and the undead Poor Rick has to be messed up with thoughts of his wife having his best friends baby without medical aid. Makes for some good drama.

Not yet, Rick probably thinks the baby is his at this point in time (if indeed pregnancy is the case) That is I'm assuming they had intercourse after he returned.  But if he does the math, and she's been pregnant for weeks... then that is a different story.

Bentley

I just finished the first volume of the comic. I may dislike Shane but I'm now more appreciative of his presence in the show.

Mathim

I've read up to the current place in the comics, and it's pretty depressing. It almost made me want to stop reading it altogether, to be honest. I haven't seen the show but from what I've read, it deviates pretty heavily from the graphic novels. Which can be a good thing; I'd have to see it to give a real opinion. But be prepared for some pretty big downer moments in the future.
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i hope it gets a second season.

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I really enjoyed it.  I wish they'd had more than 6e for the first season though.
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Awesome indeed :O

but..why we gotta wait 1 freaking year for season 2?! >__>
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Quote from: Bubbles on December 18, 2010, 03:29:54 AM
Awesome indeed :O

but..why we gotta wait 1 freaking year for season 2?! >__>
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Probably because they fired the entire original team of writers. >.>

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Quote from: Ryven on December 18, 2010, 10:41:38 AM
Probably because they fired the entire original team of writers. >.>

nyyu..Noes!! D:: -you..r-ruined my dreams..- sniffles..-

really now, did they?! >.< Can't be true!!
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Quote from: Bubbles on December 18, 2010, 11:34:48 AM
nyyu..Noes!! D:: -you..r-ruined my dreams..- sniffles..-

really now, did they?! >.< Can't be true!!

Last I heard, yeah.  The producer I think did it.  I can't figure out why given the hype and ratings they got, but they fired the entire writers group which included a guy who wrote for Dexter.

EDIT: I just checked up on it, and it appears that it's not as bad as all that. 
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/12/03/robert-kirkman-says-the-walking-dead-writers-werent-fired/

Bubbles

Quote from: Ryven on December 18, 2010, 11:47:47 AM
Last I heard, yeah.  The producer I think did it.  I can't figure out why given the hype and ratings they got, but they fired the entire writers group which included a guy who wrote for Dexter.

EDIT: I just checked up on it, and it appears that it's not as bad as all that. 
http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/12/03/robert-kirkman-says-the-walking-dead-writers-werent-fired/

sniffles..~ thanks for the info still, hopes that season two will still be out cause it's a great show.I really am tired and sick fo GOO TV Show coming out with few episodes and then poof from the TV industry still..for being so damn good.
I'd hate to see that. -.-'
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undisclosedtoyou

I think this thread deserves some love, especially since the second season is about to end.  Does anyone know if there will be a third season?
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There are various sites who say that there will not only be a third season -- it was officially renewed in October'11-- but that there also will be 16 episodes, apparently a reaction to the show's excellent ratings.
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Hefftcinchsak

Couldn't agree more undisclosedtoyou, not enough love for the show.

Last night's episode was great! This show rocks!
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Very nice Shiny, thanks for the info!

And Heff, hell yeah last night's show rocked.  I was waiting for all that to go down for so long!
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A scene from last nights episode, now with the appropriate music attached:

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Quote from: Geeklet on March 12, 2012, 06:15:05 PM
A scene from last nights episode, now with the appropriate music attached:

The Walking Dead - Office Space Special

Fucking win!

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Quote from: undisclosedtoyou on March 12, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
Very nice Shiny, thanks for the info!

And Heff, hell yeah last night's show rocked.  I was waiting for all that to go down for so long!

Haha, me too. I was actually saying "YES!" when it happened.

The season finally teaser looks like a zombie lovers dream come true. I'll drop the rest of my life to make sure I don't miss it :)
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Quote from: Geeklet on March 12, 2012, 06:15:05 PM
A scene from last nights episode, now with the appropriate music attached:

The Walking Dead - Office Space Special
LOL! I hadn't made that connection...hilarious, and right on the money!  ;D

Enjoyed the latest episode awesomeness ~ but..but...!!!  *claps hands over her mouth to prevent spoilers from escaping*  >.>

undisclosedtoyou

Quote from: Hefftcinchsak on March 13, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
Haha, me too. I was actually saying "YES!" when it happened.

The season finally teaser looks like a zombie lovers dream come true. I'll drop the rest of my life to make sure I don't miss it :)

Same here, I was definitely happy by the end of the episode.  The next one just looks so awesome, I'll definitely make time to watch it.
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Shjade

I still like the characters more or less the same as I did when the show started. They're going through hard times. Most people aren't very appealing to watch while in hard times. :|

It probably helps that I attribute characteristics to them that aren't really there because of my familiarity with the comics.
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undisclosedtoyou

Mother F**cker, the season finale was just filled with craziness and surprises!
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WHO THE FUCK IS THAT CHICK WITH THE CHAINED WALKERS!

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I Don't know!  I'm sort of thinking that she has to be from some small colony of survivors, who are just bad ass like that.  Than again, is there such thing as survivors, now that we know that everyone is infected and they'll turn once they die?  Also, that prison, I can't wait to see what's up with that.  Next season is just going to rock so much, I can't wait!  Dude, I have to read the comics now!  Also, Talking dead just revealed that the chained chick is a fan favorite, and is played by a black chick, awesome!
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WHO THE FUCK IS THAT CHICK WITH THE CHAINED WALKERS!
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Her name is Michonne. And honestly? You should worry more about her sword than the leashed meat if you see her coming at you. Oh, and no, she's not from a small colony of badasses; she is a small colony of badasses. As in by herself.

I'm a little surprised. With as much deviation from the comics as this series was doing, I didn't expect them to divert the AMC series back into the comics.

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undisclosedtoyou

Thanks for the info dump Shjade.

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I am curious though, how does chopping off their arms stop them from just trying to bite her?  That's definitely something I can't wait to find out in the third season.
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"I was so proud of myself I almost stopped being sad for a second while I hacked off your arms and lower jaws."

That's how.

If you're asking about the show version, I didn't take a close look at the zombies' faces to see if she'd done it - since I knew who it was as soon as I saw her I just sorta assumed.
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Ooooohhhh, that actually makes a whole shit load of sense!  Can you imagine the walkers trying to bite you without their lower jaws?  That would crack me the hell up.  I can't wait to see what they find in the prison, that's going to be exciting.
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Shjade

I'd still keep their mouths well away from me, to be honest.
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undisclosedtoyou

Agreed!

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But to be honest, it's not like if they nicked them with their teeth it would make any difference; they're all already infected anyway, right? 
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Shjade

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It still matters. Bites don't infect you with zombieism. They infect you with all the bad shit in their mouths.

The zombie virus isn't what kills you. It's what brings you back.

Alternately, you can think of it sorta like the jump from HIV to AIDS: you can have HIV all your life and it won't matter...unless it becomes AIDS. Zombie bites give you that bump.
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Okay, I see what your saying.  Still some fucked up shit though, being infected and all.
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Shjade

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When you think about it, nothing is any different, really. It isn't killing them any faster than they were already dying; people don't live forever. It's not as if they're sickly now. It's basically the same as carrying a recessive gene for some horrible condition that's only triggered when you die. I'm sure the shock of first hearing about it is unsettling, but if they'd turn off panic/betrayal mode for a minute and just think about it they seem intelligent enough to realize that it doesn't change anything.

Unfortunately, people are prone to panic and hysteria, so they're undoubtedly going to make a bigger deal about this than need be. Oh, silly people.
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Oh I agree that they need to get off the betrayed train.  But I still think it's fucked up; not that Rick knew, but that it's there at all.  Sure it doesn't change anything physically, with the exception that they'll now have to be careful around anyone in their party dying, even from mundane reasons.  But I have to disagree about it's impact.   It does change things on a different level.  Now they know that it's not just simply passed on by physical means, but that it could be something in the air, or water, or whatever.  It's information, and I think, in a situation like that, the more info they have, the more secure they'll feel; which is important in a group setting.

Before this revelation, they thought they had the whole zombie thing down pat.  You get bit by a walker, you become one.  But now this opens up a whole new web of possibilities.  Is it in the water, the air, the food.  It's pretty fascinating actually, I hope it's explained somehow in future seasons/episodes.
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Shjade

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*shrugs* Maybe I'm overly pragmatic about death, but I don't see it as any different. If nothing they do can change what happens, then it's as good as not being infected for most intents and purposes. The goal is the same: don't die, what they've been trying to do all along.
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teddybone

Have read the comics and watched the TV show. I am glad they are linked in some ways, but not joined together. They can riff on the same themes with different characters and angles...   I am glad to see some characters popping up in the show from the comic though.

Dragondancer

Never read the comics, but am having fun with the show for the most part - I'm at least looking forward to the next season, see what happens! They surprised me with a few twists so far!  :D

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I agree with both undies (*giggles*) AND Shjade...the knowledge changes everything - and matters not one bit as well!  :P

Although, didn't the sister (Andrea's sister Amy) take like hours to turn after being bitten, but now they are turning in under a minute when not bitten?

And what's up with Rick's wife Lori hating on him now after it was a long-time-coming forced "him or me" situation? Guess rogue dude did it for her more than she let on, lol. And the rest of the (no longer a democracy) group too? Jeez. And like y'all said...I don't care if the zombies don't have arms OR legs, I'd be staying as far away from the teeth as possible, hehe.


Shjade

Meh. Lori's a girl, you can't expect their decisions to make sense.

... What? >.>;

Srs though: she was in the middle of it, she knows she was basically aggravating the situation on both sides every time she opened her mouth, I'm sure she's as mad at herself as she seems to be at Rick. Dat guilt, yo.

As for the other thing, how fast you turn into a zombie has always been dependent upon one thing: dramatic tension. If a scene works better with a fast revive, they'll revive faster; if it'll work better with a slow turn, they'll turn slower. Creative license, you could say. ;p
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Starlequin

Um...
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Actually, I think what Lori is pissed about is that Rick told her that Carl was the one who put zombie-Shane down. She probably hates herself -- and Rick, no doubt -- for not being able to protect their son from that aspect of their new reality.
...Or am I the only one to think so?
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Shjade

Oh, right, I forgot that happened.

Yeah, that's a major contributing issue.
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