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Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« on: December 17, 2015, 02:47:11 PM »
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Confirmed Players
looking for 5-10

1. Yugi006
2. Strangefate
3. Remiel
4. Assassini
5. Blythe
6. Madame P
7. BAMF
8. Verasaille
9. James Moriarty
10. persephone325
11. Der
12. Red Pheonix
With apologies, we are at max player count.

In deception, players take on the role of a team of investigators, trying to figure out who among them committed a murder by interpreting clues given to them by a forensic scientist as a team. Figuring out the culprit isn't enough on it's own, as the detectives also have to decipher how the murder was committed, and what key piece of evidence was left at the scene that ultimate got them caught.


At the beginning of the game, each player will receive a role, sent out randomly by the GM. The forensic scientist will be publicly revealed to the entire group, as their role is different than the other players. All other roles are kept hidden during the game. For the rest of the round, the only posts the forensic scientist can make is to reveal clue cards used, detailed below.

The remaining players will each receive 4 potential murder weapons (The 'means' cards, which was changed in murder weapon in the final translastion), as well as 4 pieces of 'key evidence' that potentially solved the case (originally just called clue cards, changed as well.). These cards as a whole represent the potential weapons and clues that could have been left behind, but only one of each is the actual evidence. Once this setup is complete, the game is ready to begin.

Step one; revealing the murder.
The GM will send out a group PM to the forensic scientist and murderer, asking the murder to select one of their weapons and one piece of key evidence from their own cards. The forensic scientist will learn this information, as well as the GM, as well as who the murderer is. This information is to be kept secret between them during the duration of the game.


Step two; Giving clues

The forensic scientist cannot openly communicate with the players. Instead, they have a series of clues they are able to give. They have one board (the pink one in the picture above) that shows how the victim died (Such as blood loss, severe injury, illness or poisoning, an accident. Many of these are vague by design.). The scientist picks one of those possibilities and declares that to be the clue they are giving. They also have 4 boards that show potential locations the crime took place. The scientist will pick one of those boards, and then announce one possibility from that board as their location clue. Once the first clue has been given, other players may begin to post and discuss their suspicions as well.

Example of play.

Scientist: The cause of death options are Suffocation, Severe Injury, Loss of Blood, Illness/Disease, Poisoning, and Accident. The victim died of Blood Loss.

Alice: Well, that rules out Mary's drowning card, but not much else.

Sam: It's too early to know much...

Scientist: The location board I'm putting into play has the Vacation House, Park, Supermarket, School, Woods, and Bank. This crime took place at the school.

Sam: Looks like I'm off the hook. I have a chainsaw, acid, axe, and blades. None of that fits in a school!

Alice: Nice try, Sam! Sulfuric Acid is super common in school labs.

Sam: But the victim died of Blood Loss! If it were acid, wouldn't Madame Professor told it was a severe injury, or maybe poisoning?

Alice: That's a good point... none of us has a weapon that would cause blood loss and fits in a school though....

Mary: Well, maybe the school is pointing to the key evidence rather than the weapon, like Sam's notebook....

Players are free to make as many posts as the like to discuss the game or their thoughts, though each player only gets one guess to solve the crime (explained later).

After the cause of death and location boards are player, the Forensic scientist is given 4 additional clue boards. Each board will contain a description of the type of clue, and 6 options to give players. Like ever other board, only one option may be picked. The scientist can play the 4 boards, one at a time, in any other they choose, allowing as much discussion as they like between each placed board.

Example:
Scientist: Noticed By Bystander - Sudden Sound, Prolonged Sound, Smell, Visual, Action, Nothing; The bystander noticed Nothing.

Alice: Well, that doesn't help us any.

Sam: Yeah...

Mary: Actually... what if there's a reason he noticed nothing. We're at the school, and the bystander didn't see anything, what if that's because they were wearing that drama mask card that Alice has? That certainly fits in a school...

In the interest of keeping the game moving, I will likely ask the scientist to play a new board every 48 to 72 hours, if necessary. This rule may change, I won't know the sweet spot for timing this game until we try it.

Making Guesses
At any time after the first clue is given, players can make a guess as to who they feel the criminal was, and how the crime was committed. If they are correct, the investigators win the game! If they are incorrect, game play continues. Each player gets only one guess. Once you have incorrectly guessed, you can not try to solve the murder again. This does not mean you are eliminated. Deception has no player elimination. Players who guessed incorrectly are still able to discuss and play through the round, they just cannot guess again. They can, however, try to convince another player to use their guess on another hunch. A player will only ever learn if they are correct or incorrect. They might have the right person, they might have the right weapon, but if they don't have all three, the only response they will get is incorrect. They will not know if they are partially correct. If at any time the players run out of guesses between them and the murderer is not found, the murderer wins.

Sam: Alright, I think we've got this figured out. It was Alice, who did it with the Razor Wire, and the key evidence is the drama mask.

GM: That is incorrect.

Sam: Dangit, I was so sure! Her only other possibility is the box cuter and mask, Mary, you wanna try that for me?

Mary: I dunno Sam, how do I know you're not just trying to waste everyone's guesses so you can win?

Redacting Information
After the first 4 clue boards are placed, the Forensic scientist will be given two more. They can use these clues to cover up one of the clue boards that was already put into play. It's a good idea to use this to 'cancel' information that has been sending the players down the wrong path.

Sam: The trace left at the scene was a fingerprint! Doesn't it make more sense that Mark's broken bottle was used? That carries a way cleaner print than an axe.

Scientist: I am covering up the 'Trace at the scene' board with "Evidence Left Behind - Natural, Artistic, Written, Synthetic, Personal, Unrelated". The Evidence left behind was written.

Alice: Well, that kills your argument, Sam. And about that notebook...

The final word!
If the crime is not solved and players still have guesses after all 8 clue boards have been placed (the original 6, followed by the replacement 2), then the final round begins. Each player will get to make one post making their case. At any time, players can make their guesses. After the last guess is spent, or after 72 hours from the declaration of the final word, if the murderer has still not been found, they automatically win!

Mary: I've already used my guess, but I really feel like it has to be Sam at this point. His blades are the only thing that fits since I already guessed the axe, and I'm really sure about that notebook, especially after the written clue we got last.

Alice: You know what? I agree, I'm going to use my guess that Sam did it with the Blade, and left the notebook behind.

GM: Correct! The investigators win!

A note on Private Messaging

First and foremost, the ability to receive PMs is required to play. Apologies to unapproved members, but you'll need approval before you can join. When it comes to PMs, especially in social gaming, I don't like to restrict players from chatting with one another, but I do ask that you keep anything that has to do with the current investigation public.

Social PMs are always okay!

"Hey, it's great to be playing a game together again! Are you having fun?"

"I've enjoyed getting to meet you in deception. Man, guy is such an awesome GM. Anyway, you seem really cool, do you have any time for an RP?"

"Jeez, this round is getting crazy. If you end up being the murderer, I'm never trusting you again!"

Please don't do this!

"I didn't wanna say this to the whole group and make Sam suspicious of me, but I think that last clue MP gave was about his notebook. What do you think. Should we guess him?"

"Hey, do you think acid would be more likely to be shown as poisoning or severe injury?"

"Pssst, hey Forensic Scientist. Can you give me a hint? At least which player to look at?" This is straight up cheating. Please don't get caught doing this.

tl;dr

The game is played by guessing who committed a crime by guessing which cards were used in a crime. Everybody gets one guess to solve the murder.

The murderer wins if everyone uses their guesses incorrectly.

The investigators win if, at any time, they correctly guess the cards used in the crime.

Original Post
So this is something I played recently at a gaming convention and absolutely fell in love with. Those of you that live in the eastern continents may have already played it as "CS Files", but I've got a reprint named Deception coming in on the 20th that I'm interested in running here on E.

Until I get my copy and make sure I have everything correct, I'm not going to post any rules, but the basics of the game go something like this; I believe it runs anywhere from 4-10 players. 1 player is always going to play as the forensic investigator, who knows everything that happened, but is unable to communicate other than giving specific clues by placing markers on a series of boards that are played. Some of the board's may suggest the nature of the death (if it looked like an accident, or if it was clearly an attack, where it took place, etc.). Every other player is going to have a set of four cards in front of them; 4 potential weapons, and 4 potential items that were found at the crime scene (whether as a calling card, accidentally dropped, part of the scene, etc.) one of these players is the murderer; he'll reveal to the forensic scientist which of their cards they used as the weapon, and what was found. The scientist then uses the clues he can give to help the players figure out who among them holds the true murder weapon and evidence.

I'll need to go over the rules when I get it and figure out a fair way to run/time the game on a forum, but if we've managed it with One Night and Resistance, I'm sure we can for Deception as well.

Anyway, I'd like to get a general interest lost for when I run the game. I'm looking for anywhere between 5 and 10 players.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2016, 10:56:59 PM by ThatRPGuy »

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 02:48:56 PM »
In theory interested, but it would kinda depend on the specifics.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 03:43:19 AM »
Mark me down for interest.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2015, 04:45:51 AM »
Definitely interested.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2015, 01:07:39 PM »
In theory interested, but it would kinda depend on the specifics.

^ This. I'm sorta kinda maybe interested, but need a bit more about the game before I can 100% say for sure.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 01:41:31 PM »
Got my copy in today, so after going over the rules and figuring out the best way to translate them to a forum setting, I'll be putting up a more detailed version for your guys!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2015, 01:24:58 AM »
Oh man.

Yes.

Just.... Yes.

This game is so amazing.

Would you be including the Witness and the Accomplice, or keep it simple for the first go?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2015, 07:33:57 PM »
For the first round, I want to keep it basic. I'll be adding in more after that, but it's nice to get the basics before introducing alternate win conditions.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2016, 05:06:32 PM »
Well, it's finally up! Took me a bit with the holiday rush and RL and whatnot, but I've got a good feeling about running this! Please let me know if you want to be added to the player list.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2016, 05:31:03 PM »
Definitely interested.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2016, 07:47:42 PM »
*waves*

Hi everyone!  It looks fun, I'll definitely give it a try!  :-)

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2016, 07:58:45 PM »
Sign me up!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2016, 07:59:34 PM »
Keen.

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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2016, 08:03:58 PM »
Yeah, this looks good now that I've gotten a read-through of how it works. Count me in!  ;D

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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2016, 08:52:25 PM »
I'm totes in!

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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2016, 09:04:29 PM »
Sweet, that's 6 right there, more than enough to give this a run!

Also, I just realized that there's really no conflicting information sharing that would stop the GM from being the forensic scientist, so if nobody minds, and since it's the only role I could fairly play, I might just go ahead and play the forensic the first round to ensure everything plays smoothly in an online setting. Yes, that's the excuse I'm going to use.  :P

Seriously though, anyone mind if I play the forensic this first round?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 09:07:04 PM »
Since we have enough, and I want to keep the momentum going, I'll go ahead and start the game in a little less than 48 hours. The first round will begin Wednesday afternoon, January 6.

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2016, 10:34:01 PM »
HM. Even though I'm still fairly confused, I'm pretty sure I wanna play. So count me the hell in.

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2016, 10:34:48 PM »
I promise, one round and it will all make perfect sense. That's how I felt going through the original rulebook too.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2016, 10:35:06 PM »
Mark me down for interest.

Just noticed my name wasn't up there.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2016, 10:56:31 PM »
I would love to play!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2016, 10:58:15 PM »
Well, shoot, that's 10 if you count me. I guess we'll go ahead and start tomorrow once I get off work. Before I begin, does anyone have an objection to me being the first forensic scientist?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2016, 11:03:05 PM »
I have no objection to you running the game however you like personally.  The forensic scientist seems fairly important to keeping the game running smoothly from what I understand, so probably best that it's someone a little familiar with the game IMO and not apt to accidentally spill the beans.   :-)

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2016, 11:07:39 PM »
Yeah, also have no problem with this. Smoother it can run, the better, imo.

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2016, 11:16:19 PM »
My thoughts exactly. I mean, running ikt smoothly is a convenient reason that I get to play with you guys, sure, but it'll also give me a chance to show you guys one of the more key roles in action before turning it loose. That way, this round you guys can focus on accusing one another *snickers*.

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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2016, 11:17:52 PM »
....Uh, what are we talking about?

I was distracted by BAMF's avatar. >.>

Oh! Right! No objections from me.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2016, 11:20:25 PM »
I am here!! Yes! It looks like fun.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2016, 11:26:15 PM »
I am going to make room for one more for perse, so I'll add an additional role to help keep things balanced;

Player roles

The game will have 8 Investigators. You roles is to use the clues to discover the murderer.

The game will have one Murderer. You committed the crime, and will reveal your weapon and evidence to the forensic scientist, who has to try and get the other players to figure you out through clues.

The game will have one Accomplice. You will know who the murderer is, and win if they do. You goal is to spread confusion at the table.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2016, 11:52:59 PM »
....Uh, what are we talking about?

I was distracted by BAMF's avatar. >.>

Oh! Right! No objections from me.

 ;)  ;D ;D ;)

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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2016, 12:06:07 AM »
;)  ;D ;D ;)

lol I'm not a fan of...what the hell was the show? Doctor Who, I think? See. I don't know. Haha.

But I did watch the Fright Night remake because Colin Farrell is a fucking gorgeous Irishman. <3 And David Tennant was just an added bonus in that getup. ^^

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Interest Check)
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2016, 12:28:18 AM »
Alright, so everyone's cards are posted. You guys are free to look them over. It's not a bad idea to give them a look over and think about which ones you'd want to use if you turn out to be the murderer. Which one would be hard to identify? Generally speaking, cards that are similar to other players give you a lot of cover to hide behind as people try to narrow it down, while cards that are more unique (like being worked to death) tend to be harder for the forensic scientist to identify as they give clues.

Another thing to mention is that the evidence cards are very open to your interpretation. The toy card for example, is purposely vague, and could be any toy. Similarly, any means of murder card that references drugs may not necessarily mean an overdose, but a tainted drug that was poisoned or something, so poisoning or illness/disease might apply to those, depending on the scientist's interpretation. Similarly, Machinery could refer to a variety of devices.

The key thing to remember here is that one of you is the murderer, and to win, you need to not only figure out who it was, but also what combination of weapon card they used, and key evidence card they left behind. The murderer is only about to pick one each of their own two sets of four cards.

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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2016, 01:02:14 AM »
Am I missing something? Where are the cards posted? We don't get them PM'ed to us?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2016, 01:03:22 AM »
It's in the game thread as it's public knowledge.

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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2016, 01:07:25 AM »
I found it LOL

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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2016, 01:29:44 AM »
Hate to do this so suddenly, all, but I gotta withdraw. Wishing you folks the best, and I hope y'all enjoy the game! :)

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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2016, 01:47:27 AM »
Can I take sherlock's seat? Didn't get in in time.

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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2016, 02:29:57 AM »
Yes! Give Kythia Sherlock's spot! Doooo eeet!

*totally wants to sass at Kythia*

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« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2016, 02:32:07 AM »
*squints at BAMF's avatar* is that...David Tennant?  Why does he look like Criss Angel?

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« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2016, 02:38:52 AM »
*squints at BAMF's avatar* is that...David Tennant?  Why does he look like Criss Angel?
According to Persephone,
But I did watch the Fright Night remake because Colin Farrell is a fucking gorgeous Irishman. <3 And David Tennant was just an added bonus in that getup. ^^
  it's from the remake of Fright Night, which a quick Google search tells me, came out in 2011.

I've not seen it personally. A gifset came across my dashboard on Tumblr & I had to have it. >.>

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« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2016, 02:53:49 AM »
According to Persephone,
  it's from the remake of Fright Night, which a quick Google search tells me, came out in 2011.

I've not seen it personally. A gifset came across my dashboard on Tumblr & I had to have it. >.>

A lot of people don't like it, though.

I'm one of the weird ones. Like you guys didn't already know that. lol

Colin Farrell and vampires? I couldn't pass that up. He can be MY neighbor... Unf.

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« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2016, 03:34:31 AM »
Is there an order to the play at all? I mean who goes first, etc.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2016, 04:38:32 AM »
Is there an order to the play at all? I mean who goes first, etc.

Never played the game at all, but as I understand: no, there is no order of play. We can all immediately get to chatting.

However, it is currently a pointless exercise as we need the Forensic Investigator (TRPG, yes?) to post the first details about the murder.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but TRPG will post some clues via a board and we then have to discuss what the clues mean. Admittedly, I didn't fully understand the board system from the description given, but I'm sure that'll clear up as we play.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2016, 05:37:59 AM »
Can I take sherlock's seat? Didn't get in in time.

Yes, absolutely! I'll PM you their role!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2016, 05:40:22 AM »
Never played the game at all, but as I understand: no, there is no order of play. We can all immediately get to chatting.

However, it is currently a pointless exercise as we need the Forensic Investigator (TRPG, yes?) to post the first details about the murder.

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but TRPG will post some clues via a board and we then have to discuss what the clues mean. Admittedly, I didn't fully understand the board system from the description given, but I'm sure that'll clear up as we play.

I promise, it's pretty simple in practice. In short, I'll be giving you guys 6 clues selected from possible sets. The clues are set into small boards so that they can be shuffled and drawn randomly, that was the forensic scientist isn't always giving the same type of clue each game.

Once I drop the first clue, discussion can begin. The first 2 clues will always be cause of death and location, but the FS chooses which they give first.
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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2016, 10:13:08 AM »
It's on like Donkey Kong!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2016, 12:12:19 AM »
Wait, I have a question, RPGuy.  Could your clues (Location of Crime, Cause of Death, State of the Scene) refer to any of the Evidence cards as well as the Means of Murder cards?  Because, if so, I've been going about this all wrong.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2016, 08:49:28 AM »
Needless to say, I can't tell you exactly what I'm trying to imply, but ideally, the clues the forensic scientist gives should help the players find both the key evidence as well as the murder means.

Sometimes it all falls into place nicely; say the murderer used a knife and had food ingredients as their key evidence. Playing the kitchen as a location is a great way to indicate both. Other times, the two will be much harder to indicate in a single clue, and the scientist will need to divide their attention. Let's say the cards picked were a pistol and teddy bear as key evidence. The forensic scientist plays a card indicating the victim was young. That tells you very little about the means used (they may use other cards for that, such as an indication the death was sudden), but it does give a decent hint for the evidence card.

One game I was in the murderer thought they had it dead to rights; there were so many blunt instruments around the table. He had a table leg and wrench, other players had candlesticks, hammers, steel pipes, police batons, a baseball bat etc. however, the key evidence they used was "grass". The forensic gave the location as the park. At that point, most of the table was so focused on him for having one of the few pieces of evidence that could fit, that they got him by process of elimination. That was a little lucky though, as the players could have just as easily seen park and focused on the baseball bat. It's really up to the players to keep an open mind about how the evidence could be interpreted.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2016, 04:56:14 AM »
Hey folks. Sorry I've been so inactive in the game over the past couple of days. I started back at work around the same time and so I've been pretty knackered the last few days as I try get back into a normal sleeping pattern. Add the that to the surprisingly rapid pace of the game and I haven't engaged the way I'd normally like to. Hopefully will properly dive in over the next few days.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2016, 05:43:39 PM »
I have a question regarding the accomplice. Would it make sense to look at the evidence and murder weapon, etc, of two people?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2016, 06:55:48 PM »
I have a question regarding the accomplice. Would it make sense to look at the evidence and murder weapon, etc, of two people?

Not really. The investigators, and FS win if the investigators correctly guess the means and evidence cards used in the crime, which will always be the murderer's. The accomplice is there to try and confuse the investigators, and is usually only used in larger games, since more players means more guesses.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2016, 07:25:43 PM »
Thanks for clearing it up for me.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2016, 04:34:14 PM »
How much interaction are we allowed with you guy? Are we allowed to say eg "if the murderer is Kythia then cover up blood loss" ?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2016, 05:38:59 PM »
There's nothing about it in the official rules, but that seems like poor sportmanship, so I think I'd house rule against that.

Unrelated; would anyone like to volunteer to be next round's FS?

The down side is of course, your ability to chat is imited, but it's a fun fun role.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2016, 06:25:21 PM »
There's nothing about it in the official rules, but that seems like poor sportmanship, so I think I'd house rule against that.

Unrelated; would anyone like to volunteer to be next round's FS?

The down side is of course, your ability to chat is imited, but it's a fun fun role.

I'm actually really quite keen to be the FS. I mean, in my experience I'm terrible at this sort of thing (from several games of Mysterium) however I still enjoy it! If anyone else is keen though should we have a vote or something?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2016, 06:38:58 PM »
There's nothing about it in the official rules, but that seems like poor sportmanship, so I think I'd house rule against that.

Unrelated; would anyone like to volunteer to be next round's FS?

The down side is of course, your ability to chat is imited, but it's a fun fun role.

Perhaps whoever is the first to guess the correct solution?  Or the murderer if no one does?  That'd be the most fair, I think.  ;D

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2016, 07:26:54 PM »
Perhaps whoever is the first to guess the correct solution?  Or the murderer if no one does?  That'd be the most fair, I think.  ;D

Inb4 Remiel is the murderer.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2016, 07:48:48 PM »
That's not a bad idea, Remi. I was thinking of just doing a dice between the interested volunteers instead of the full group, then a role for the other roles with the remaining. Sadly, as GM, I can only play roles that know everything, so my options are either forensics or nothing. =(

But that's okay, I got to play a round with you guys, that's more than many GMs can do for games they run here or on CHWB.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2016, 07:54:28 PM »
That's not a bad idea, Remi. I was thinking of just doing a dice between the interested volunteers instead of the full group, then a role for the other roles with the remaining. Sadly, as GM, I can only play roles that know everything, so my options are either forensics or nothing. =(

But that's okay, I got to play a round with you guys, that's more than many GMs can do for games they run here or on CHWB.

Not necessarily.  The Forensic Scientist can randomly pick the murderer and accomplice, and then the murderer can tell the FS what method / evidence he or she is choosing.

And then you can tell the FS what clues he has to choose from, although in the interest of fairness you should probably make this information public.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2016, 08:13:41 PM »
It's supposed to be unseen until the card is played, so I have a feeling I'd have a hard time being impartial.

MP owns the game too, I may ask her to run after a few rounds.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2016, 08:42:16 PM »
After PMing Guy to make sure it was okay, I know for sure I can commit to the game whenever y'all have the next round and would totes love to play now that I've got RL and E more together.

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« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2016, 02:59:53 AM »
Delighted to have you join us Sherlock!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2016, 03:01:04 AM »
With a name like "Sherlock", it's MANDATORY for him to join. lol

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2016, 02:35:21 PM »
Congrats to Remi and the investigators!

Everyone in for another round? Unless anyone tells me otherwise, I'll start a new game with the same group (aside from Sherlock taking my seat) next round.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2016, 02:36:59 PM »
I'm totally in for Round Two!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2016, 02:39:46 PM »
Yep, I'm in!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2016, 02:42:15 PM »
Unless an u one else volunteers as tribute, I'll roll between Assassini (your name is impossible to shorthand politely...) and Remi for the FS.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2016, 02:44:34 PM »
I'll try my hand at being the FS.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2016, 02:45:23 PM »
Definitely up for round 2.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2016, 02:52:49 PM »
And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids! :P

I am most definitely up for another round.

And I am also totally up for GMing (and/or FS) when you want to just play, Guy. :-)

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2016, 03:00:49 PM »
I'll GM a few more so you can play first. I think I've had more chances to play IRL than you have, plus it's fun and I'm still working on a database of cards.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2016, 03:01:50 PM »
Unless an u one else volunteers as tribute, I'll roll between Assassini (your name is impossible to shorthand politely...) and Remi for the FS.

*laughs hysterically* Cry me a river. Everyone says the same thing.

But yes, very keen for Round 2. Obviously.

I have to say though, the Accomplice seems like such a weak addition. Frankly people are too bright to really get confused by any less than obvious ploys to divert attention, so in reality all the card does is take one vote away from the Good Guys...

And we still had FOUR left!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2016, 03:09:11 PM »
Eh, not really. I mean, the wrong focus and people can get waaaaay off point. As I have discovered playing in person. Plus, the accomplice reduces the good guys number of available guesses.

With this size of a group though, it might not be a bad idea to have 5 Means and 5 evidence cards.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2016, 03:21:49 PM »
Well played everyone. I'm out for the next game, but enjoyed this one. Thanks for running it guy.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2016, 04:00:16 PM »
Thanks for playing, Kythia! You're always welcome back in!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2016, 04:01:04 PM »
I'll continue for another round.

Oh, and thanks to ThatRPGuy for running it too!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2016, 07:02:02 PM »
I am in!! This is a fun game.  ;D

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2016, 07:08:08 PM »
I'll play another round as well. :-)

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #77 on: January 12, 2016, 01:01:19 AM »
I'm in for another! 

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #78 on: January 12, 2016, 09:56:39 AM »
So, the die has been cast, and Remiel is our new forensics expert!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #79 on: January 12, 2016, 01:23:07 PM »
Sorry about this, I've I've played and shuffled this game's cards since the last round I set up here, so there's a few repeats. Thankfully, it's not the kind of thing that ruins the game.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2016, 01:32:39 PM »
Does BAMF's card really say "Incest"?

 :o  :o  :o

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2016, 01:40:59 PM »
Alrighty, everything is in place, we're ready to roll!

Does BAMF's card really say "Incest"?

 :o  :o  :o

Ummmm... oops, that's supposed to be insect. Let's not read into that, shall we?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2016, 02:22:11 PM »
Wait what holy shit
no
leave it.

Okay fine we can have bugs
but this is E.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2016, 02:38:56 PM »
But we're in the NA section! You can have all the incest you want over in the RP threads.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2016, 02:47:26 PM »
They're gonna be incestuous bugs in my mind now.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2016, 02:57:23 PM »
They're gonna be incestuous bugs in my mind now.

*giggles*

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #86 on: January 12, 2016, 04:34:35 PM »
They're gonna be incestuous bugs in my mind now.

If that turns out to be the murder card, all Remiel has to do is direct us to it with a card that says "Family" or something and my week will be made.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #87 on: January 12, 2016, 07:00:49 PM »
Hey, RPG, what do you think about this: maybe the first Investigator to correctly solve the crime gets to be the next FS? Or the murderer/accomplice, if no one does?

That way, you introduce a bit of healthy competition among the Investigators.  But you also want to make sure you're correct in your guess, because you only get one shot.

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« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2016, 07:14:49 PM »
I am not sure I want to be the FS. On the other hand I think it should be random, so everyone gets a chance. Whether we roll for it or something like a vote?

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« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2016, 08:17:23 PM »
Hey, RPG, what do you think about this: maybe the first Investigator to correctly solve the crime gets to be the next FS? Or the murderer/accomplice, if no one does?

That way, you introduce a bit of healthy competition among the Investigators.  But you also want to make sure you're correct in your guess, because you only get one shot.

The problem with this though is that people who vote later absolutely get an advantage, which could make the game drag out. Not to belittle your achievement of winning the last game for us, but me and BAMF had ruled out both of the other alternatives you had seemed to be considering :P

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« Reply #90 on: January 12, 2016, 08:19:56 PM »
Does it make me seem selfish if I +1 that, Assassini? ;D

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« Reply #91 on: January 12, 2016, 08:23:11 PM »
Does it make me seem selfish if I +1 that, Assassini? ;D

Well seeing as I said it first... How very dare you.

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« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2016, 09:06:34 AM »
On a sidenote, thanks to all of you for playing with me! It's been a while since I've been on E, it's nice to have a game again. I almost forgot how much I like it here, and how well I feel I fit in. ^^

Anyway, I'm just rambling now, the point is thanks for hanging out with me everyone!

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« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2016, 09:50:14 AM »
On a sidenote, thanks to all of you for playing with me! It's been a while since I've been on E, it's nice to have a game again. I almost forgot how much I like it here, and how well I feel I fit in. ^^

Anyway, I'm just rambling now, the point is thanks for hanging out with me everyone!

We love you too good buddy.

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« Reply #94 on: January 13, 2016, 11:41:01 AM »
Yeah, RPG!  Good to have you back.  You always seem to pick winners, gamewise.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #95 on: January 13, 2016, 12:16:19 PM »
I'm a board game enthusiast, and see a lot between the groups I attend and run. Every once in a while, I find something like Deception that I have to share. If I can ever figure out how to code a darn table, I also want to run Codenames on CHWB. That's a big off though, BBC code eludes me.

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« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2016, 03:10:34 PM »
Hello folks! At the lovely Madame P's invitation, I would like to officially toss me hat into the ring for your consideration if you decide to do another round. ;D

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« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2016, 04:44:15 PM »
Yuuuuusssss... whispers One of us, one of us!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2016, 05:01:03 PM »
Unless I have 7 people drop after this round, I'm definately planning another. Welcome, Derwaysh!

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« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2016, 07:36:35 PM »
I know I'm not dropping--this game is too addictive and fun! ^^

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« Reply #100 on: January 17, 2016, 12:46:51 AM »
Yuuuuusssss... whispers One of us, one of us!

Gooble gabbel! Gooble gabble! ;D

Unless I have 7 people drop after this round, I'm definately planning another. Welcome, Derwaysh!

Thank you! Very excited to be here!

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« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2016, 06:50:38 PM »
Am back to my old username, folks, sorry for any confusion that may result in for the game. >_>;

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2016, 07:21:02 PM »
Ah, that is interesting, did not know you could do that. Whatever makes you happy, my dear!  ;D

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« Reply #103 on: January 18, 2016, 01:58:31 PM »
Am back to my old username, folks, sorry for any confusion that may result in for the game. >_>;

I've always been curious, was there a reason for the switch and switch back?

Did you get tired of people saying "No shit, Sherlock"? (I never did, but I totally should have... :P )

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #104 on: January 18, 2016, 02:05:04 PM »
I'm so lost! Who is this Blythe fellow that's suddenly shown up in my game?!

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« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2016, 03:02:11 PM »
EHEY!!! Blythe is back!! ^^

We can all get "Blythed" again! Haha.

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« Reply #106 on: January 19, 2016, 07:43:06 AM »
GGGGGG!


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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #107 on: January 19, 2016, 08:52:43 AM »
Well, I know I had fun at least?

Whose up for one more? Who would like to be added to the pool of people I draw the FS from?

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« Reply #108 on: January 19, 2016, 08:57:55 AM »
Well, I know I had fun at least?

Whose up for one more? Who would like to be added to the pool of people I draw the FS from?

I'm up for as many more as we can get enough players for! It's pretty good fun.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #109 on: January 19, 2016, 10:03:48 AM »
I figured I'd run 4-5 rounds, then take a break for a few weeks. I don't want burn everyone out with too much at once. I've noticed too much LCS rapid fire lowers overall excitement after a while. Don't want to burn out everyone on something this good, lol.

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« Reply #110 on: January 19, 2016, 10:20:11 AM »
I'm up for another.

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« Reply #111 on: January 19, 2016, 10:28:26 AM »
I figured I'd run 4-5 rounds, then take a break for a few weeks. I don't want burn everyone out with too much at once. I've noticed too much LCS rapid fire lowers overall excitement after a while. Don't want to burn out everyone on something this good, lol.

That's probably legit. Gives most people who wanted to be the FS a chance too.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #112 on: January 19, 2016, 12:56:29 PM »
Well, I know I had fun at least?

Whose up for one more? Who would like to be added to the pool of people I draw the FS from?

I'm still in, and add me to the FS pool! ^^

Also, congrats, Verasaille, and good job on your guess. I was so antsy and nervous every time you, Madame, and Assassini skirted close to the right answer, and I thought I was in teh clear, but you pulled a win for Team Investigator! Well played!  ;D

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« Reply #113 on: January 19, 2016, 01:02:49 PM »
I'm still in, and add me to the FS pool! ^^

Also, congrats, Verasaille, and good job on your guess. I was so antsy and nervous every time you, Madame, and Assassini skirted close to the right answer, and I thought I was in teh clear, but you pulled a win for Team Investigator! Well played!  ;D

"Skirted close"?!??

*Has a tantrum*

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #114 on: January 19, 2016, 01:06:08 PM »
*pats Assassini* You helped me a lot with the chart thing and your reasoning.

You all helped. I love this game! More!!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #115 on: January 19, 2016, 01:19:03 PM »
Alright, so far the pool is Assassini and Blythe for FS. Anyone else?

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« Reply #116 on: January 19, 2016, 01:32:54 PM »
*pats Assassini* You helped me a lot with the chart thing and your reasoning.

You all helped. I love this game! More!!

*Mutters away to self in a corner*

Alright, so far the pool is Assassini and Blythe for FS. Anyone else?

I'm sure there was someone else who indicated interest the last time you asked, but I can't find the post anywhere. It might be in the actual game thread.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #117 on: January 19, 2016, 01:34:16 PM »
I know Remi did, but he just had a turn.

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« Reply #118 on: January 19, 2016, 01:38:48 PM »
I know Remi did, but he just had a turn.

My memory tells me it was a lady...

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #119 on: January 19, 2016, 01:55:43 PM »
I think it was Persephone325?

My vote is for Verasaille (if she wants it) since she had the first correct guess.

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« Reply #120 on: January 19, 2016, 02:20:55 PM »
It was me who voiced interest after the first round. Little ole Sephie.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #121 on: January 19, 2016, 02:28:20 PM »
Thanks Seph! *hugs* So it's between Assassini, Blythe, and Perse at the moment.

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« Reply #122 on: January 19, 2016, 02:35:21 PM »
And I will admit, I'm pretty impressed, Vera. Remi got clue cards so bad he probably thought I was trying to prank him, but you still picked up where he was going with them. Bravo!

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« Reply #123 on: January 19, 2016, 02:39:04 PM »
Thanks Seph! *hugs* So it's between Assassini, Blythe, and Perse at the moment.

No problem. *hugs*

And yeah, Vera. That made my brain explode. lmao

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #124 on: January 19, 2016, 02:48:01 PM »
And I will admit, I'm pretty impressed, Vera. Remi got clue cards so bad he probably thought I was trying to prank him, but you still picked up where he was going with them. Bravo!

Let's not underestimate Blythe and BAMF.  I think they did an amazing job misdirecting people.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #125 on: January 19, 2016, 02:53:07 PM »
Let's not underestimate Blythe and BAMF.  I think they did an amazing job misdirecting people.

Your first three cards were spot on and actually were pretty good cards. I was flailing and completely at a loss what to do until "Decayed" came up. I practically heard a small chorus of "hallelujahs" when that card appeared because I finally had something like a strategy at that point.

I think my biggest mistake was picking 'Electric Current' as a method of death--waaaaaay too specific. If I'm ever the murderer again, I have a much better understanding of what the game needs for the murderer to win now. ^^
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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #126 on: January 19, 2016, 02:58:27 PM »
No argument from me, they certainly did! Next round, we'll be adding a new role; the witness!

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« Reply #127 on: January 19, 2016, 03:00:23 PM »
Let's not underestimate Blythe and BAMF.  I think they did an amazing job misdirecting people.
Oh my god. When I wrote up that list that incriminated myself most of all and then MP ACTUALLY GUESSED ME? I was dying. That was amazing.

I also wouldn't mind being thrown in the pool for FS, but I'm definitely up for another round.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #128 on: January 19, 2016, 03:35:48 PM »
I wanna play! I wanna play! :D

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #129 on: January 19, 2016, 03:37:40 PM »
I wanna play! I wanna play! :D

OHHHHHH SHIIIIIIIII

*cough* I mean welcome aboard, Red.  Glad to have you.

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« Reply #130 on: January 19, 2016, 03:51:40 PM »
YES! RED! :D :D

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« Reply #131 on: January 19, 2016, 04:03:37 PM »
Your first three cards were spot on and actually were pretty good cards. I was flailing and completely at a loss what to do until "Decayed" came up. I practically heard a small chorus of "hallelujahs" when that card appeared because I finally had something like a strategy at that point.

I think my biggest mistake was picking 'Electric Current' as a method of death--waaaaaay too specific. If I'm ever the murderer again, I have a much better understanding of what the game needs for the murderer to win now. ^^

When Decayed came out, I allllllmost spent my guess on Electric Current/Oil Stain. But I thought maybe I'm stretching it and this was just a bad clue (because I am all too familiar with how that happens) so I waited. Then Summer came out and I was like, "let's reevaluate this." ><

And it's tough to decide what to do with it! Especially with a group this size.

I wanna play! I wanna play! :D

One of us, one of us!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2016, 04:09:15 PM »
MP:  between Weekday, Weekend, Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter, what would you have said?

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« Reply #133 on: January 19, 2016, 04:27:44 PM »
MP:  between Weekday, Weekend, Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter, what would you have said?

Honestly, I have no idea. Nothing really helps point to Oil Stain in my mind. ><

Just so you know, I was not in anyway meaning you did a bad job. I was more commenting on the fact that my brain thought I must be on the wrong track, since I was already a bit iffy about my initial thinking. Which turned out to be right. So I'm glad Vera stayed on that track. GG, girl.

Being the Forensic Scientist is hard. Especially when you get clues that you don't find will be helpful in telling the investigators what they need to know. Because you want the investigators to get it right. Sometimes, the clues don't help. I'll have to tell you about my first time as the FS... It was just terrible. I had all manner of clues that didn't help me at all. Luckily, since this is a cooperative game, I don't have to worry too much about my guess being wrong. The guesses are the investigators biggest tool in narrowing down what the FS is trying to them. Waiting for more clues isn't always a good thing... my case in point.

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« Reply #134 on: January 19, 2016, 04:45:53 PM »
With Red, that makes 12, this game's max!

I'd of done weekday, like a work day. Not the best clue though...

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #135 on: January 19, 2016, 04:57:51 PM »
I think my mistake was that I was going Motor Oil for the oil stain, while all of the investigators were trying to form a coherent narrative between all the clues.  Which, if you do that, I can see how they might've been thrown off, as motor oil has no business in a bathroom.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #136 on: January 19, 2016, 05:58:10 PM »
 :-[ Thank you all. Was Bamf the accomplice?

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« Reply #137 on: January 19, 2016, 05:59:16 PM »
:-[ Thank you all. Was Bamf the accomplice?

Yes he was.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #138 on: January 19, 2016, 07:41:40 PM »
I'm still ridiculously proud of incriminating myself & then MP going, "Yep, sounds right. I think it's BAMF."

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« Reply #139 on: January 19, 2016, 07:42:08 PM »
I'm still ridiculously proud of incriminating myself & then MP going, "Yep, sounds right. I think it's BAMF."

Oh like you're hard to incriminate.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #140 on: January 19, 2016, 07:43:55 PM »
Whaddya mean, Red? :'( I'm totally innocent!

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« Reply #141 on: January 19, 2016, 07:44:36 PM »
You were born guilty BAMFy my love!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #142 on: January 19, 2016, 07:48:31 PM »
*siiiiigh*

I knoooowwww.

Offline ThatRPGuyTopic starter

Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #143 on: January 19, 2016, 07:52:44 PM »
When I get home from work, I'll deal out cards, and if I have time do roles, otherwise I'll start the game tomorrow for sure.

We will be adding The Witness! The witness starts the game knowing who the Murderer is! However, in the event of a victory by the investigators, the murderer gets one chance to guess and eliminate the witness before they make it to court, flipping the victory for themselves!

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« Reply #144 on: January 19, 2016, 08:12:41 PM »
When I get home from work, I'll deal out cards, and if I have time do roles, otherwise I'll start the game tomorrow for sure.

We will be adding The Witness! The witness starts the game knowing who the Murderer is! However, in the event of a victory by the investigators, the murderer gets one chance to guess and eliminate the witness before they make it to court, flipping the victory for themselves!

*flails* I am excited about this role--this should make things very interesting!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #145 on: January 19, 2016, 08:16:24 PM »
How superbly interesting!! I can hardly wait!

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« Reply #146 on: January 19, 2016, 08:16:46 PM »
That really does sound fun! :D

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« Reply #147 on: January 19, 2016, 08:22:55 PM »
I'm still game for another.  Also welcome Red, and well done as accomplice BAMF!  I really hadn't pegged you for that.  You certainly got people off scent and on your trail.  :P   

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« Reply #148 on: January 19, 2016, 09:09:16 PM »
When I get home from work, I'll deal out cards, and if I have time do roles, otherwise I'll start the game tomorrow for sure.

We will be adding The Witness! The witness starts the game knowing who the Murderer is! However, in the event of a victory by the investigators, the murderer gets one chance to guess and eliminate the witness before they make it to court, flipping the victory for themselves!

Yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssss.

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« Reply #149 on: January 19, 2016, 09:54:58 PM »
In!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #150 on: January 19, 2016, 10:12:11 PM »
We'll get started tomorrow. I left my game in the car after game night, and it is so damn cold out that no one will ever convince me to run to my car for a game, no matter what you try. Brrrrr....

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« Reply #151 on: January 19, 2016, 10:18:29 PM »
In the meantime, though, I will announce that E's dicebot has picked Persephone to enjoy a free 6 month supply of pomegranates. to be the next Forensic Scientist!

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« Reply #152 on: January 19, 2016, 10:25:33 PM »
In the meantime, though, I will announce that E's dicebot has picked Persephone to enjoy a free 6 month supply of pomegranates. to be the next Forensic Scientist!

*giggles* I'm happy with either! lol

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« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2016, 10:26:30 PM »
We'll get started tomorrow. I left my game in the car after game night, and it is so damn cold out that no one will ever convince me to run to my car for a game, no matter what you try. Brrrrr....

LOL!

This sounds like an excuse I'd use.

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« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2016, 10:39:01 PM »
How far is that car? You can't even run out in a little bit of cold? I would warm you up when you get back!!  ;D

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« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2016, 10:42:57 PM »
I ran outside today in a t-shirt, sweatpants, and socks to help my dad load up his laptop and table for his DJ gig tonight. lol

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« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2016, 10:57:11 PM »
How far is that car? You can't even run out in a little bit of cold? I would warm you up when you get back!!  ;D

Clearly Guy doesn't love us as much as we love him. *melodramatic sniffles*

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« Reply #157 on: January 20, 2016, 03:35:33 AM »
Bugger! Was I late? Nonetheless I shall keep me eye on the thread should you decide to do another run, RPGuy! ;D

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« Reply #158 on: January 20, 2016, 03:37:56 AM »
Bugger! Was I late? Nonetheless I shall keep me eye on the thread should you decide to do another run, RPGuy! ;D

If he runs the game again after this, I will happily give you my spot so you get a chance to play. ^^

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« Reply #159 on: January 20, 2016, 03:42:23 AM »
If he runs the game again after this, I will happily give you my spot so you get a chance to play. ^^

Not an issue in the least. I am having a lot of fun just watching and also learning from how everyone's playing it! ;D

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« Reply #160 on: January 20, 2016, 06:46:23 AM »
You aren't late, Der dear. Guy hasn't handed out all the hidden roles yet. He was just announcing Persephone as the new FS for this round.

Fear not! We will toss you and Red into the frying pan!  >:)

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #161 on: January 20, 2016, 07:15:10 AM »
When I said we have 12, I was counting you as number 11, Der, you're in!

I don't count as a player, I just had out cards unless I'm the FS.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #162 on: January 20, 2016, 09:25:57 AM »
When I get home from work, I'll deal out cards, and if I have time do roles, otherwise I'll start the game tomorrow for sure.

We will be adding The Witness! The witness starts the game knowing who the Murderer is! However, in the event of a victory by the investigators, the murderer gets one chance to guess and eliminate the witness before they make it to court, flipping the victory for themselves!

Basically a Merlin + Assassin combo. Sweet! That's awesome. I suspect this will make things actually harder for the investigators.

Congrats Verasaille!  And a polite hat tip to Assassini as well who also mentioned that possibility.  I have to admit that while I wrote above that I found some merit in the Electric Current/Oil Stain argument, Iím not sure I would have ever actually guessed it myself.  So Iím glad that someone did.  :-)   That seemed like a rather tough round Ė Remiel really didnít get a lot in the way of clues to point us towards Oil Stain.

Someone noticed! Fate is officially me new favourite.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #163 on: January 20, 2016, 12:24:48 PM »
LOL!

This sounds like an excuse I'd use.

You know how cold it is around here, that's not an excuse, it's a totally legit reason. *shivers*

Clearly Guy doesn't love us as much as we love him. *melodramatic sniffles*

Lies, Guy adores you all!

I'm so glad the turnout for this game had been so good. You guys are awesome, and your enthusiasm is infectious.

If only I was having as good luck getting stories started as I am social games...

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #164 on: January 20, 2016, 12:33:42 PM »
Basically a Merlin + Assassin combo. Sweet! That's awesome. I suspect this will make things actually harder for the investigators.

Yeah, when Madame Professor was explaining what the witness does, she was like, "the Witness knows which two players (but not which is which) the Murderer and Accomplice are, but not the murder weapon or the evidence"  I was like "Well, that's dumb.  I hate the witness."

Then she said "but if the Investigators solve the crime, the Murderer and Accomplice get to guess who the Witness is.  If they're right, the witness is killed and they win," I said "Oh, like Avalon? I changed my mind, that's awesome."

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« Reply #165 on: January 20, 2016, 12:50:15 PM »
pah. Texans complaining that it's cold.

it's currently 19 degrees at 1pm.

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« Reply #166 on: January 20, 2016, 12:58:05 PM »
When I said we have 12, I was counting you as number 11, Der, you're in!

I don't count as a player, I just had out cards unless I'm the FS.

You aren't late, Der dear. Guy hasn't handed out all the hidden roles yet. He was just announcing Persephone as the new FS for this round.

Fear not! We will toss you and Red into the frying pan!  >:)

Gotcha woot woo! ;D

And if you can all kindly bundle up your colds and send it Northern California way that'll be faaaaaantastic.

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« Reply #167 on: January 20, 2016, 01:13:08 PM »
You aren't late, Der dear. Guy hasn't handed out all the hidden roles yet. He was just announcing Persephone as the new FS for this round.

Fear not! We will toss you and Red into the frying pan!  >:)

I found the murderer! Mp with the frying pan in the forum!

Guy- Whoops! Hit modify instead of quote! Not used to GM actions being there.
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« Reply #168 on: January 20, 2016, 01:34:13 PM »
I found the murderer! Mp with the frying pan in the forum!

Guy- Whoops! Hit modify instead of quote! Not used to GM actions being there.

But what was the key evidence?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #169 on: January 20, 2016, 01:47:11 PM »
Sauce for the deep fried corpses?

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #170 on: January 20, 2016, 01:55:57 PM »
Lol eww.

For some reason, Red, you avatar makes me think of a fancy futuristic VR headset. It makes me want to go dig up some old threads or mafia games....

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« Reply #171 on: January 20, 2016, 02:04:48 PM »
I keep trying to push people to Mafia but nobody wants to play all vanilla versions!

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« Reply #172 on: January 20, 2016, 02:11:54 PM »
I found the murderer! Mp with the frying pan in the forum!

Guy- Whoops! Hit modify instead of quote! Not used to GM actions being there.

Abuse of GM powers! Silencing the masses now TRPG? :P

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« Reply #173 on: January 20, 2016, 02:22:12 PM »
I keep trying to push people to Mafia but nobody wants to play all vanilla versions!

What do you mean by all vanilla? Just mafia and innocents, no special roles?

I was actually planning on pitching a round of werewolves during the Deception break. Depending on what you're looking for, maybe I can help.

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« Reply #174 on: January 20, 2016, 02:25:23 PM »
I keep trying to push people to Mafia but nobody wants to play all vanilla versions!

Not exactly nobody. A lot of us have shown interest. Just don't have enough people.

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« Reply #175 on: January 20, 2016, 02:28:08 PM »
Abuse of GM powers! Silencing the masses now TRPG? :P

The corruption knows no bounds!

What do you mean by all vanilla? Just mafia and innocents, no special roles?

I was actually planning on pitching a round of werewolves during the Deception break. Depending on what you're looking for, maybe I can help.

Yup, just normal people and maifa, no superpowers, just deduction and lies.

Not exactly nobody. A lot of us have shown interest. Just don't have enough people.

Well, true, not nobody!

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« Reply #176 on: January 20, 2016, 02:29:29 PM »
I have been looking for more games. I don't see many updated for this year at all.

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« Reply #177 on: January 20, 2016, 02:31:08 PM »
Yup, just normal people and maifa, no superpowers, just deduction and lies.

There should be at least some.

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« Reply #178 on: January 20, 2016, 02:31:23 PM »
I posted an interest check back in October...

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #179 on: January 20, 2016, 02:34:18 PM »
I'll run one after the Deception break begins if we get enough interest. I haven't had terrible luck getting them started.

I have to admit, I prefer to play with at least a bodyguard, and love it most with a seer and some roles that cast shade, but I can do a vanilla round if enough people are interested.

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« Reply #180 on: January 20, 2016, 02:42:00 PM »
Nobody wants all vanilla, that's the problem. :P

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #181 on: January 20, 2016, 02:43:24 PM »
So how do people get into the games? Does the GM start sending PM's out to see if they want to play?

Sorry I have no clue how this works. We used to have several games going and now they are done. I am up for any of them.

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« Reply #182 on: January 20, 2016, 02:44:52 PM »
I think it could work with a fun theme and the promise of PMing allowed so people can strategies and power play. Well find out, I just made a sign up sheet.

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« Reply #183 on: January 20, 2016, 02:56:53 PM »
Nobody wants all vanilla, that's the problem. :P

That can get stale really fast asa then it just becomes random guessing.

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« Reply #184 on: January 20, 2016, 02:57:14 PM »
It's the exact opposite of random guessing, but enough talk about that in this game's thread. :)

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« Reply #185 on: January 20, 2016, 04:04:02 PM »
I've run plenty of vanilla games IRL, and it's never come to random guessing, and that's without the PM sneakiness and backstabbery going on.

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« Reply #186 on: January 20, 2016, 08:07:40 PM »
I can see that now.

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« Reply #187 on: January 20, 2016, 10:26:02 PM »
"What am I doing wrong here? I've got all the players involved- why are there only 11 sets of cards?" - A completely idiotic GM who is definitely not me.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #188 on: January 20, 2016, 10:39:30 PM »
I hope you guys realize how much I love you all. Drawing and typing out nearly 100 cards is boring as all get out. Probably why I'm talking to myself right now....

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« Reply #189 on: January 20, 2016, 10:42:28 PM »
Awww poor guy. :(

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #190 on: January 20, 2016, 11:17:01 PM »
Awww poor guy. :(

<3!

Everything is sent out on my end, so now we wait for an initial posting from our Forensic Scientist.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #191 on: January 21, 2016, 08:07:37 AM »
You guys have been busy since I went to bed! I love it! Hope you all are having fun!

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« Reply #192 on: January 21, 2016, 08:48:28 AM »
I hope you guys realize how much I love you all. Drawing and typing out nearly 100 cards is boring as all get out. Probably why I'm talking to myself right now....

Hahaha!

Totally picturing you alone in a dark room going "And Remiel gets this card, he'll like this card Precious, yes he will..."

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« Reply #193 on: January 21, 2016, 09:02:22 AM »
I hope you guys realize how much I love you all. Drawing and typing out nearly 100 cards is boring as all get out. Probably why I'm talking to myself right now....

You don't have to worry until you start having arguments with yourself.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #194 on: January 22, 2016, 10:29:18 AM »
Those of you unfamiliar with me; every other weekend I have family commitments that usually keep me a little too busy for a heavy presence on Elliquiy. This is one of those weekends, and it's a pretty big one, so I'll be a little slower this weekend. That said, our FS has everything they need, so unless a specific rules question comes up, things should be able to flow smoothly.

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« Reply #195 on: January 22, 2016, 04:48:12 PM »
Remi, I have so much respect for you. I thought it was difficult trying to interpret the clues, oh my god! The FS has quite a task... Haha.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #196 on: January 22, 2016, 04:51:37 PM »
I think I have narrowed it down to about two or three possibilities--I'm going to give other people a chance to try to solve the crime first, though.  :-)

And oh, yeah.  Just wait until you get to the Time of Day clue.  You'll be like, "Uh, can I pick None of the Above?"

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« Reply #197 on: January 22, 2016, 04:56:35 PM »
I think I have narrowed it down to about two or three possibilities--I'm going to give other people a chance to try to solve the crime first, though.  :-)

And oh, yeah.  Just wait until you get to the Time of Day clue.  You'll be like, "Uh, can I pick None of the Above?"

lol Are the clues the same every time? Like time of day, witness noticed, etc.?

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« Reply #198 on: January 22, 2016, 04:59:10 PM »
lol Are the clues the same every time? Like time of day, witness noticed, etc.?

They are randomly drawn, so some might show up again.

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« Reply #199 on: January 22, 2016, 06:28:13 PM »
There's less than 20, and we use 6 per game, so repeats are inevitable. I thought aboit setting aside anything that was already seen, but I was worried I'd break the game's balance if every FS didn't have the same chance to draw the same useful clues.

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« Reply #200 on: January 22, 2016, 06:29:33 PM »
Big Kudos to Perse for keeping the game moving while I've been busy! Always feel free to tell someone if they were right if I'm not available.

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« Reply #201 on: January 22, 2016, 09:18:34 PM »
Big Kudos to Perse for keeping the game moving while I've been busy! Always feel free to tell someone if they were right if I'm not available.

I wasn't sure at first, but then was like "Well, I am the forensic scientist. I should be able to confirm, or deny, the accusations since I know who it is." lol

Also, I'm loving the charts and color coding you guys got going on. ^^

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« Reply #202 on: January 23, 2016, 12:15:44 AM »
Agreed, you guys are going all in this round. Love it!

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« Reply #203 on: January 23, 2016, 05:54:31 PM »
I apologize for the delay in the next clue. I had to ask Guy to clear up a few things for me.

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« Reply #204 on: January 26, 2016, 08:04:08 PM »
I'm tempted to make a Venn diagram of all the clues, except that it would be the most complicated Venn diagram in the history of mankind.

I would be really interested in seeing that. lol

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #205 on: January 26, 2016, 09:04:30 PM »
What the hell is a Venn diagram?

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« Reply #206 on: January 26, 2016, 09:07:26 PM »
Um, like one of those things where circles overlap circles to show what is both or just one or some?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venn_diagram

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« Reply #207 on: January 26, 2016, 09:17:45 PM »
man, is it even possible to Venn diagram out all those clues and all those methods/evidences?

That'd be one huge diagram! ^^

...at the same time, I kinda want to know what a diagram with that much in it would look like.  ;D

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« Reply #208 on: January 26, 2016, 10:09:11 PM »
Heyy guys, I apologize for this, but the friends I visited convicted me somehow to have a few drinks with then even though I never drunk. I thought I'd drop a note and let yall know I won't be able to post until tomorrow at lunch. Sorry to both decapitated and mafia groups, I'll get that post up asap, just not tonight.

Love you guys
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« Reply #209 on: January 26, 2016, 10:11:00 PM »
I'm totes fine with a little delay--have fun having drinks with your pals, RPGuy! Try not to drink too many!  ;D

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« Reply #210 on: January 26, 2016, 10:11:52 PM »
No worries. :)

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« Reply #211 on: January 26, 2016, 10:13:08 PM »
No worries, man!  Taking a day off won't break the game. :)

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #212 on: January 27, 2016, 08:25:07 AM »
... Can we pretend that message never happened?

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« Reply #213 on: January 27, 2016, 08:27:44 AM »
Nope! >:D

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« Reply #214 on: January 27, 2016, 08:33:00 AM »
In my defense, that was like 70% autocorrect.

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« Reply #215 on: January 27, 2016, 08:43:59 AM »
Poor decapitated group :(

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« Reply #216 on: January 27, 2016, 09:21:47 AM »
I'm never drinking again.

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« Reply #217 on: January 27, 2016, 12:37:27 PM »
It's not your fault.  Your friends convicted you, after all.

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« Reply #218 on: January 27, 2016, 02:25:13 PM »
I loved the post!! I laughed and knew right away you were either posting on a cell phone and did not really see what the autocorrect was doing, or you were too drunk to pay attention. Either way, it was entertaining!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #219 on: February 01, 2016, 09:53:59 AM »
Given the length of this round relative to the other ones, I fear I may have hit that burnout point I was hoping to avoid that I mentioned at the end of the last game. Once this game wraps up, I'm planning to take a GMing break for a little while to focus on my writing and story hunt.

Hope everyone is okay with that, I promise more Deception early to mid March.

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« Reply #220 on: February 01, 2016, 10:17:03 AM »
I was planning to bow out next round myself.  Thanks for running it though, Guy.  It seems like a fun game.  Maybe next time someone else can GM so you can get a chance to play as well  :-)

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« Reply #221 on: February 01, 2016, 05:48:20 PM »
I certainly don't mind a break; I was also going to bow out after this round.

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« Reply #222 on: February 01, 2016, 06:20:10 PM »
Awesome that you run these Guy. Thanks for your patience. I enjoy the game.

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« Reply #223 on: February 01, 2016, 06:23:42 PM »
Yeah, I certainly enjoyed the fuck out of this particular game and definitely hope to participate again in the future.

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« Reply #224 on: February 01, 2016, 06:48:05 PM »
I'm thinking mid March for another round or two, ideally starting the second round early April.

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« Reply #225 on: February 01, 2016, 06:52:34 PM »
I have had a lot of fun (and angerGGGGRRRR but in a good way! :D) about this game but yeah I am overloaded at the moment and it is distracting me from the writing I actually am here to do, so I feels ya.

Definitely up for playing another round down the road sometime though.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #226 on: February 01, 2016, 07:07:32 PM »
I've already made a list of the original crew to PM when I start another round. That said, it's been a wonderful experience gaming with you all. I came back to E to run this, and I'm sticking around for the new friends I've made and stories I've started, so thank you all.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #227 on: February 01, 2016, 07:13:20 PM »
Let us join hands and sing folk songs!

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #228 on: February 01, 2016, 08:25:37 PM »
Ahhh, I was hoping for another round or two, this is fun! I love a good mystery.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #229 on: February 01, 2016, 09:35:50 PM »
Whenever you decide to run this again I'll be up for it.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #230 on: February 01, 2016, 10:27:11 PM »
I'm really glad you guys enjoyed it so much!

Don't you worry, I promise it will be back soon, in 2 months at most!

In the meantime, I may run a couple rounds of Spyfall or Codenames after the Dungeon Crawl is wrapped up.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #231 on: February 01, 2016, 10:41:31 PM »
Yay. Spyfall is fun. Never played Codenames though.

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« Reply #232 on: February 01, 2016, 10:55:53 PM »
Codenames is great, it's a word guessing game, an the bigger your vocabulary, the better an edge you have.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #233 on: February 01, 2016, 11:05:00 PM »
It sounds fun.

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« Reply #234 on: February 01, 2016, 11:09:31 PM »
I may as well share an awful story. This is from Tuesday, that day I somehow let people drag me out to drink. I may as well mention, I never drink practically. I'm a relatively quiet person IRL who runs a boardgame group for fun. Not one of the cool kids.

Aaaaanyway, so we're playing codenames, and the idea of the game is there are players who are spymasters, and spies. There's a board on the table with a series of randomized words, and the spymasters are trying to get their team to guess as many of their words as possible. They do this by giving a clue that relates to words tagged as theirs, and then a number for how many words it relates to. For example, if I'm trying to get someone guess the words "Dolphin" and "Atlantis", I might give a clue such as "Underwater - 2", being careful that "Underwater" doesn't accidentally make them guess anything else on the board.

So anyway, now that you know the basics, I'm playing this game with my friends, after 2 beers (yes I'm a lightweight, I know), and despite my inebriation, I'm 2 words from winning, and killing it, the other team still has 4 to go. My two words remaining are "Stadium" and "Centaur". You guys may think these are hard words to link, BUT NOT FOR A WORD PRO LIKE ME! I'm so good at this. I confidently give my clue. "Cowboy - 2".

Now, my game group is in North Texas. Even if you have never watched a football game in your life, you've heard of cowboy stadium if you live in the area. They get 'stadium' without any problem. I'm such a good spymaster. The last one is obvious.... so... why is everyone starting at the board, completely confused? Both teams are looking at the available words like I just said something in Martian code. What gives? My team guesses a word. They're so wrong that it's actually the other team's word, meaning they get a point and our turn is over. In some kind of genius power play, they manage to win the game with a 3 word clue. ugh.

So at this point, the entire table wants to know; What was my other word for cowboy?

"Come on guys, it's so obvious." I explain, pointing to centaur.

"How is that obvious?"

"What, are you guys serious? Cow-boy, Centaur, half dude, half cow?"

"That's the wrong taur your moron!" According to a few players, it was the best absolutely wrong reasoning they've ever heard for a word selection in that game. I guess I should feel special. I blame the beer.

And that's why I'm never drinking again. The End.

* ThatRPGuy politely escorts himself to the embarrassed people section.

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« Reply #235 on: February 01, 2016, 11:18:14 PM »
I may as well share an awful story. This is from Tuesday, that day I somehow let people drag me out to drink. I may as well mention, I never drink practically. I'm a relatively quiet person IRL who runs a boardgame group for fun. Not one of the cool kids.

Aaaaanyway, so we're playing codenames, and the idea of the game is there are players who are spymasters, and spies. There's a board on the table with a series of randomized words, and the spymasters are trying to get their team to guess as many of their words as possible. They do this by giving a clue that relates to words tagged as theirs, and then a number for how many words it relates to. For example, if I'm trying to get someone guess the words "Dolphin" and "Atlantis", I might give a clue such as "Underwater - 2", being careful that "Underwater" doesn't accidentally make them guess anything else on the board.

So anyway, now that you know the basics, I'm playing this game with my friends, after 2 beers (yes I'm a lightweight, I know), and despite my inebriation, I'm 2 words from winning, and killing it, the other team still has 4 to go. My two words remaining are "Stadium" and "Centaur". You guys may think these are hard words to link, BUT NOT FOR A WORD PRO LIKE ME! I'm so good at this. I confidently give my clue. "Cowboy - 2".

Now, my game group is in North Texas. Even if you have never watched a football game in your life, you've heard of cowboy stadium if you live in the area. They get 'stadium' without any problem. I'm such a good spymaster. The last one is obvious.... so... why is everyone starting at the board, completely confused? Both teams are looking at the available words like I just said something in Martian code. What gives? My team guesses a word. They're so wrong that it's actually the other team's word, meaning they get a point and our turn is over. In some kind of genius power play, they manage to win the game with a 3 word clue. ugh.

So at this point, the entire table wants to know; What was my other word for cowboy?

"Come on guys, it's so obvious." I explain, pointing to centaur.

"How is that obvious?"

"What, are you guys serious? Cow-boy, Centaur, half dude, half cow?"

"That's the wrong taur your moron!" According to a few players, it was the best absolutely wrong reasoning they've ever heard for a word selection in that game. I guess I should feel special. I blame the beer.

And that's why I'm never drinking again. The End.

* ThatRPGuy politely escorts himself to the embarrassed people section.

* Madame Professor is still laughing.

Best. Story. Ever.

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Re: Deception: Murder in Hong Kong/CS Files (Rules and OOC)
« Reply #236 on: February 01, 2016, 11:24:49 PM »
I'm a relatively quiet person IRL

I thought this was the funniest part of the story.   ;)

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« Reply #237 on: February 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM »
I thought this was the funniest part of the story.   ;)

Our tabletop sessions don't count! I go into them with a plan since I'm the GM, plus I already knew you guys and it's not like we're all sitting at a table. If you guys ever wanted to meet for pizza I'd freeze up. ; (

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« Reply #238 on: February 04, 2016, 05:56:02 AM »
Heyy guys, I apologize for this, but the friends I visited convicted me somehow to have a few drinks with then even though I never drunk. I thought I'd drop a note and let yall know I won't be able to post until tomorrow at lunch. Sorry to both decapitated and mafia groups, I'll get that post up asap, just not tonight.

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I may as well share an awful story. This is from Tuesday, that day I somehow let people drag me out to drink. I may as well mention, I never drink practically. I'm a relatively quiet person IRL who runs a boardgame group for fun. Not one of the cool kids.

Aaaaanyway, so we're playing codenames, and the idea of the game is there are players who are spymasters, and spies. There's a board on the table with a series of randomized words, and the spymasters are trying to get their team to guess as many of their words as possible. They do this by giving a clue that relates to words tagged as theirs, and then a number for how many words it relates to. For example, if I'm trying to get someone guess the words "Dolphin" and "Atlantis", I might give a clue such as "Underwater - 2", being careful that "Underwater" doesn't accidentally make them guess anything else on the board.

So anyway, now that you know the basics, I'm playing this game with my friends, after 2 beers (yes I'm a lightweight, I know), and despite my inebriation, I'm 2 words from winning, and killing it, the other team still has 4 to go. My two words remaining are "Stadium" and "Centaur". You guys may think these are hard words to link, BUT NOT FOR A WORD PRO LIKE ME! I'm so good at this. I confidently give my clue. "Cowboy - 2".

Now, my game group is in North Texas. Even if you have never watched a football game in your life, you've heard of cowboy stadium if you live in the area. They get 'stadium' without any problem. I'm such a good spymaster. The last one is obvious.... so... why is everyone starting at the board, completely confused? Both teams are looking at the available words like I just said something in Martian code. What gives? My team guesses a word. They're so wrong that it's actually the other team's word, meaning they get a point and our turn is over. In some kind of genius power play, they manage to win the game with a 3 word clue. ugh.

So at this point, the entire table wants to know; What was my other word for cowboy?

"Come on guys, it's so obvious." I explain, pointing to centaur.

"How is that obvious?"

"What, are you guys serious? Cow-boy, Centaur, half dude, half cow?"

"That's the wrong taur your moron!" According to a few players, it was the best absolutely wrong reasoning they've ever heard for a word selection in that game. I guess I should feel special. I blame the beer.

And that's why I'm never drinking again. The End.

* ThatRPGuy politely escorts himself to the embarrassed people section.



Incidentally, I've played Codenames and it's actually legit such a fun game to play. Dead simple and straight-forward and no less fun because of it. Playing it drunk is cracking too. I have a similar story of where my friend is trying to make us guess 3 different words, one of which is "Lawyer" (I can't remember the other ones, but they were along a similar vein) and so he says "Argo". Thinking that we'll instantly get the reference to the film Argo. Meanwhile I go on a spiel thinking "Ohshit, he is CLEARLY talking about the Argo from Jason and the Argonauts, so this is some kind of Greek Myth type of reference". Luckily the others told me to shut up and sit down.

Anyway, a few things.

First of all: thanks TRPG for running these games, they've been crackalacking. I'd like to, as always, put my name forward for any future attempts at starting up some games (of any sort really).

Second of all: everyone else, I am sorry for my vanishing act in this most recent game. I've barely been around E the past week and a bit and so I completely lost track of what was going on. It's a bit shit to so blatantly just go AWOL and not provide any input to the game, so I do apologise for that.

It was actually because of that I was going to say that if there were any other games immediately coming up that I felt I would duck out so that it doesn't happen again. But if the next games aren't going to be a for a little while, I'll hold off on making that decision until the time comes!