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Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« on: January 29, 2007, 06:00:33 PM »
And then want to play a ninja game? Too much Naruto, in my case, and though the same basic principles will probably apply, it'll probably be placed long before or after the show, so no real foreknowledge of the world is needed...

I'm hoping for a one-on-one for this one... anyone up for it?

Offline Hunter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2007, 07:30:03 PM »
I routinely watch too much Naruto myself.  Might make a good group game....

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 07:40:05 PM »
True, with the emphasis on squads in the show, but, then, it also depends on how many are interested.

Offline Jefepato

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 07:36:45 AM »
I'd be interested in a game like this.  You have any system in mind, or just freeform?

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 08:04:04 AM »
I've heard more than a few people talk about Naruto, but I've never seen it. What's it like?

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 08:34:04 AM »
I'd have to say I'd be interested as well.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 09:46:07 AM »
Freeform, more likely, since I haven't really ever seen any system that adequately covers the insane things that can be done in anime, and the insane amounts of power some of the inexperienced (in system terms, low EXP) characters have.

Naruto is an interesting show. It's difficult to stay interested at first, because the three main characters are all, in their own ways, difficult to like, though that was actually done on purpose. Still, as the show moves on, particularly to the Chunin exam arc, a lot of character growth begins to take place, and the cast begins to widen as previously minor characters take on importance, and, likewise, those minor characters who were once thought to be boring or meant to be disliked actually gain a lot of fans as their characters are developed.

In terms of actual content? A regular mix of fighting and shenanigans, and, while generally percieved as targetted towards younger audiences, the young adult crowd (teens and early twenties) has taken to it quite well, from my experience. Each character has specialties, sort of like a fighting game, though most start out with only basic ninja skills and perhaps one unique skill, though each expands their repertoire as it goes.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 09:48:09 AM »
Freeform, more likely, since I haven't really ever seen any system that adequately covers the insane things that can be done in anime, and the insane amounts of power some of the inexperienced (in system terms, low EXP) characters have.

Have you had a look at Exalted?

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2007, 09:50:43 AM »
I've heard a lot about it, however, with D&D, I haven't had the resources to look into it, particularly since no one seems to know of an online database from which I could get the gist of it.

Offline Jefepato

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2007, 10:16:12 AM »
I've actually seen Naruto conversions for both d20 and Exalted.  The former was pretty bad; the latter looked better, but people are a lot less familiar with the system and I don't believe there's an online reference for it.

(People have also built Naruto characters for Mutants & Masterminds, but although they did a good job, I don't think that system suits the setting well.)

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2007, 10:20:46 AM »
Yeah... judging from that, what's the gernal opinion? If all of you are familiar with Exalted and would prefer it, I have some connections that might be able to get me enough to let us play that way, but, of course, there's always freeform.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2007, 10:40:53 AM »
I like to have some kind of guideline in place for just how able my character is, but there's no real need to learn an entire complex system just for this.

Offline Hokage

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2007, 10:47:29 AM »
I love naruto!!! Except for the fillers that started about a year ago. In my opinion the fillers nearly killed the show. Anyway on  a lighter note, new episodes, non filler start the 15th of february, with the Kakashi gaiden.


On a side note I have switched my anime viewing consumption to Death Note. Now that is an amazing series.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2007, 10:48:55 AM »
Mmm... Not too fond of the filler, myself, truth be told... Still, from what I can tell, they've gotten far enough ahead in the manga that there won't be a terrible amount of filler for some time to come.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2007, 10:50:50 AM »
I have read the manga up to date, I won't spoil anything but it does get a hell of a lot better, especially in anime form the upcoming stuff is going to look amazing. They have almost a year and a half of manga to go through so we shouldn't be seeing a filler for a long time.


And I would be interested in a Naruto game ^_^


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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2007, 11:12:16 AM »
I've heard a lot about it, however, with D&D, I haven't had the resources to look into it, particularly since no one seems to know of an online database from which I could get the gist of it.

Here's a couple of links that might help

http://www.white-wolf.com/exalted/

Thats WWs own home page.

http://exalted.xi.co.nz/wiki/wiki.pl?WelcomeToExaltedWiki

And thats a wiki site that seems fairly popular. Here's the intro blurb from White Wolfs site:

Exalted is a game of epic fantasy set during the Second Age of Man, a time before our own.
It is an age of magic and adventure, when heroes of legend are reborn into a time of woe.

At the dawn of the First Age, the gods gave power to men that they might slay the gods' Primordial enemies. Anointed by the gods, these beings were thereafter known as the Exalted.

The greatest of the Exalted were the Solars, the Chosen of the Unconquered Sun, the mightiest of the gods. So great was their power that, when a Solar died, his power was quickly made manifest in a new individual - a reincarnation of sorts, but into a mature adult rather than a newborn.

The Exalted triumphed over the enemies of the gods, and in reward, the gods gave the Exalted dominion over the Earth. For a timeless age, the Exalted ruled justly over Creation, and their kingdom was invincible.

But the enemies of the gods had pronounced a terrible curse against the Exalted. This dark magic ate away at the hearts of the Chosen. The benevolence of the Solars turned to tyranny, and peace turned to civil war. It was prophesied that the madness of the Solars would bring about the destruction of the world. Seeing no other alternative, the lowliest of Exalted, the Dragon-Blooded, murdered the decadent Solar Exalted and locked their souls away.

And so, a Second Age descended upon Creation.

The greatest of the gods' servants no longer walked the earth, and the Realm of the Dragon-Blooded was but a shadow of the lost old Realm. Solar Exalted whose power escaped to be reborn were slain by Dragon-Blooded inquisitors known as the Wyld Hunt, and the Realm claimed dominion over Creation. For more than a thousand years the Solar Exalted remained imprisoned and defeated - until now.

The Scarlet Empress, the Dragon-Blooded ruler of the Realm and controller of the Wyld Hunt, vanished five years ago. Without her might to enforce order in the Realm, the Great Houses of her Scarlet Dynasty have fallen to squabbling over the reins of power. And in this time of crisis, the Solar Exalted have returned. It is as if a gate was opened and the heroes of old rushed through it and returned to the world.

Your character is among those individuals who have become Solar Exalted. You are a being of legend, as mighty as a demigod and as cunning as an asp. Will you be the savior of Creation or one of the terrible menaces that beset your world?

- - - - -

In short, you're a reincarnated demigod, with powers enough starting to take on a small-ish sized army (especially if you play a combat monster Dawn or sorcerous Twilight).

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2007, 11:19:17 AM »
Hrm... It could be adapted, I suppose, though the fit is somewhat awkward...

Offline Hunter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2007, 11:44:40 AM »
If you want to go with a system style game, we could easily use either BESM or dX.
I'd almost rather go freeform, though.  It'd be easier to do.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2007, 11:45:22 AM »
Hrm... Vote, then, I suppose. Freeform or system, and go from there. Gentlemen?

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2007, 11:48:29 AM »
I'd prefer freeform.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2007, 01:34:19 AM »
I'll even go so far as to play freeform, but I'm actualy far more in favor of etiher an adaptation of Exalted: The Dragon Blooded, with hidden villages for Air, Earth, Fire, Water, and Wood, things like Sand being simple variants, and things like the shadow replciation technique being advanced, high essence, original charms. 

Another VERY good option for a system is Big Eyes Small Mouth.  This is a very simple system, made specificly to emulate anime across the board.  (There's even a popular hentai varient, Big Breasts, Small Waist.)  I have yet to aquire the third edition released just last week, but could digitaly loan the second edition around. 

I am, however, inclined to think that a slightly expanded version of second edition exalted, the dragon blooded, is the best representation of the variety of techniques used in Naruto.  Big Eyes, small mouth might be a bit harder to buy all the tricks you want to buy. 

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2007, 08:36:25 AM »
I am, however, inclined to think that a slightly expanded version of second edition exalted, the dragon blooded, is the best representation of the variety of techniques used in Naruto.  Big Eyes, small mouth might be a bit harder to buy all the tricks you want to buy. 

Slightly expanded?  You'd have to overhaul the Charms entirely to even vaguely fit Naruto.

And although people have in fact done this (see: http://www.thefreedomstone.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2792 ), I'm unconvinced that it's worth going through the learning of a new and sometimes-confusing system just to run this game.  I'll vote freeform.

Offline Hunter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2007, 01:29:32 PM »
If you're going to insist on using a system, I'd recommend dX because there's a power called "dynamic" which pretty much lets you do anything....

I still vote freeform, though.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2007, 01:39:16 PM »
Well, at this point, it depends on Hokage's vote...

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2007, 06:39:23 PM »
Alright, Hokage's been out the past few days, and since he just got back from what looked like a rather extended leave of absence, I'm not sure how likely it is that he'll be able to post with any measure of regularity. If he hasn't posted by Midnight, PST, tonight, then I'll make the executive call here and say we go freeform. Either way, you can probably at least get started working on your characters' backgrounds, personalities, and a general idea of their powers.

Also, gentlement, we have before us a dillemma: do you want to work as a squad, initially? What's the male/female balance in terms of characters (given that we all are, in fact, gentlemen)? Do you even know each other at the start? Are you from different villages?

Regardless of the answers to the above, you'll all be considered Chunin, or "middle ninja" at the start, about where the Konoha Eleven and the Sand siblings are during the Hurricane Chronicles, to give you some idea of where you stand.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2007, 06:42:08 PM »
You'll have to excuse those of us who have only seen the anime and go "huh?"   (like me)  ;)

I'm rather flexible with just about everything suggested, except I'd like to have all the pcs be from the same village.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2007, 06:46:12 PM »
For those of you who haven't read that far in the manga (truthfully, neither have I, but I've heard enough to get a good general idea), wikipedia might be useful here.  ;) Especially the lists of techniques they have for each character.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2007, 12:10:42 AM »
Also, gentlement, we have before us a dillemma: do you want to work as a squad, initially?

Probably best that way.  There's no particular reason we'd need to adhere to the squad-of-three pattern.  Pursuant to this point, it's probably best if we have general areas of skill that complement each other well -- anyone have input on what they're likely to specialize in?  (If nothing else, different areas of focus makes freeform a lot easier to resolve.)

What's the male/female balance in terms of characters (given that we all are, in fact, gentlemen)?

Haven't decided yet.  If the rest of the group is heavily weighted one way or the other, I can balance.

Do you even know each other at the start?

If we're all Chunin from the same village, I think it's almost certain that we would, even if we're only newly organized as a squad.

Are you from different villages?

I'd vote no.  Ninja from different villages are going to have all kinds of friction.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2007, 02:54:37 PM »
It depends on the reason. The characters may be missing nin, or simply a task force from a variety of the governments- depending on what sort of stories we're planning on doing. God knows, though, even in one village there's a great enough amount of diversity- even assuming that the Hidden Leaf has one of the most varied compositions of ninjas, there's dozens of specialties that they have. I'd definitely be interested in such a game, by the way- Either Freeform or system, though I do enjoy systems just because they make combat a lot easier.

And hey, I could get my head around Rifts- I think I can deal with a few new charm trees

>.>

For reference...
Leaf: Shadow jutsu, binding another's shadow. The Sharingan, capable of copying another's movements perfectly, and at higher levels, some really silly shit. Size changing, which usually burns massive amounts of calories. Mind switching- slow, and leaves them somewhat vulnerable, but useful for spying. Byakugan, perfect vision, apparently in distances of hundreds of meters in the stronger users, and high control over their own chakra. At least one character is incapable of molding his own chakra, but has compensated by becoming utterly, frighteningly powerful at Taijutsu- hand to hand combat. Bugs. Dogs. And a rare ability to use Wood jutsu, combining Earth and Water abilities. Lots of possibilities obvious.

Sand: Puppeteers, who tend to fight through proxy, and a high level of control over wind.

Water: People with mother fucking huge swords, and little to no regard for human life.

And in general: Demon-bonded, though they might be a bit overpowered compared to the others, Medical ninjas, etcetera, etcetera.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2007, 03:00:54 PM by Ajoxer »

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2007, 07:13:06 PM »
Alright, gentlemen... Here's the general profile that I'm looking for:

Name:

History:

Personality:

Physical Description (picture optional):

Known Ninjutsu:

Known Genjutsu:

Known Taijutsu:

Known Summoning Jutsu:

Known Kekkei Genkai:

Miscellaneous (Anything you want to include that wouldn't normally be covered in the above, for example, Neji's cursed seal, or precise physical measurements, if you're into that thing):

Obviously, I don't expect any character to have all of the types of Jutsu filled in, or even more than two or three, in most cases. Description of the jutsu listed should go under the appropriate jutsu category, if it isn't covered in the anime/manga.

One I've received at least two profiles, I'll request the board be opened. Do you know where you want to put the game?

Offline Jefepato

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2007, 07:53:14 PM »
We can put it in Light for all I care, but I have no objection if there's a compelling reason why someone would prefer BatL.

By the way, can we agree on a village of origin (or at least, a village around which the stage will be set, even if some decide to play visitors/emissaries from others)?  I tend to think the Leaf is most appropriate, since it seems to have more solidarity and a wider variety of abilities.

GB, may we assume that a young-adult chunin will know a pretty good variety of jutsu (albeit mostly focused in his area(s) of specialization)?

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2007, 08:04:25 PM »
Yeah. I'm thinking somewhere between five and seven total specialized jutsu by this stage, with a little more than half of those learned from a certain discipline, and perhaps one or two personal techniques (Chidori, Rasengan, Hinata's tech, etc.)

Offline Jefepato

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2007, 08:14:08 PM »
And pretty much all ninja (who aren't Rock Lee) have the standard array of substitution, clone, and transformation jutsus, plus the basic movement-related tricks like walking up walls and covering long distances in leaps and bounds?

I'm currently thinking of playing a female character, probably some sort of taijutsu specialist, but I need to hit up Wikipedia and refamiliarize myself with all the oddities of the setting.
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Offline Ajoxer

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2007, 11:35:42 PM »
To be fair, Rock Lee probably could have kicked anyone in the Chuunin Exam's ass, barring Orochimaru and Gaara. Let's face it, the guy was a badass. Poor bastard always ends up as a jobber.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2007, 11:39:34 PM »
And pretty much all ninja (who aren't Rock Lee) have the standard array of substitution, clone, and transformation jutsus, plus the basic movement-related tricks like walking up walls and covering long distances in leaps and bounds?

I'm currently thinking of playing a female character, probably some sort of taijutsu specialist, but I need to hit up Wikipedia and refamiliarize myself with all the oddities of the setting.

Correct. Though Rock Lee-types, I'd imagine, would be capable of the movement-based types, too.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2007, 11:40:32 PM »
To be fair, Rock Lee probably could have kicked anyone in the Chuunin Exam's ass, barring Orochimaru and Gaara. Let's face it, the guy was a badass. Poor bastard always ends up as a jobber.

Probably... But look where going up against Gaara got him.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2007, 11:54:02 PM »
Correct. Though Rock Lee-types, I'd imagine, would be capable of the movement-based types, too.

I'd think so (although I don't know if Lee is really a "type" or if his disorder is unique to him).  Lee still has chakra, he just can't use it for ninjutsu or genjutsu -- and he more than keeps up with his team in overland travel.

Offline Rin

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2007, 03:19:19 AM »
Hmm..

Stil open for new players, or do you have all you want? :)

Offline Ajoxer

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2007, 09:38:06 AM »
Hmmmm... I'm still tossing around ideas... What village are we thinking of coming from? Leaf has more established ideas, so it depends on how much we want to play it by ear.

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2007, 09:49:33 AM »
Hmmmm... I'm still tossing around ideas... What village are we thinking of coming from? Leaf has more established ideas, so it depends on how much we want to play it by ear.

The Leaf Village's major clans may be established, but there's still a lot of ninja who don't appear to be from any of them, and no particular reason to believe that the series has shown us every clan in town.  You can probably still do almost whatever you want.

Besides, Leaf ninja seem to be far less bastardly towards each other.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2007, 05:52:00 PM »
Hmm..

Stil open for new players, or do you have all you want? :)

Still open!

Offline Hunter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2007, 06:12:11 PM »
Dumb question: Is there a somewhat complete list available on wiki or do I have to look somewhere else?

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2007, 06:19:40 PM »
Of Jutsu? More or less complete, as far as I can tell.

Ninjutsu (and damn, are there a lot!): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjutsu_%28Naruto%29

Genjutsu (and damn, there aren't many!): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genjutsu_in_Naruto

Taijutsu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_taijutsu_in_Naruto

Kekkei Genkai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kekkei_genkai

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2007, 08:28:40 PM »
Yah!  I'm looking to play a member of the Hyuuga clan myself.

(Edited to add link) http://www.leafninja.com/
« Last Edit: February 08, 2007, 08:32:57 PM by Hunter »

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2007, 10:05:58 PM »
I think I might try an Uchiha, me.

Question! All those bandages and fishnet the Ninja seem to wear.. Is there a purpose for that, or is it just gratuitous bondage fetish gear?

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Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2007, 10:08:35 PM »
I think I might try an Uchiha, me.

Question! All those bandages and fishnet the Ninja seem to wear.. Is there a purpose for that, or is it just gratuitous bondage fetish gear?

Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if it was gratuitous bondage fetish gear....

Offline Jefepato

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2007, 10:08:44 PM »
Everybody loves weird optical bloodlines, it seems.

Question! All those bandages and fishnet the Ninja seem to wear.. Is there a purpose for that, or is it just gratuitous bondage fetish gear?

It hardly looks like bondage fetish gear to me, but there doesn't seem to be any purpose (beyond demonstrating that Naruto is an idiot for being a ninja who wears bright orange).

Offline Rin

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2007, 10:11:01 PM »
Everybody loves weird optical bloodlines, it seems.

It hardly looks like bondage fetish gear to me, but there doesn't seem to be any purpose (beyond demonstrating that Naruto is an idiot for being a ninja who wears bright orange).

The creators of the manga certainly do.

And I'm not sure what all that stuff. Fetish gear is the only way I can explain it to myself.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2007, 10:28:18 PM »
*shrugs* I don't know about you guys, but I certainly don't mind the bandages...

Jefepato's already gotten his character in, so I just need one more before I can open up a board, gents...

Offline Hunter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2007, 10:30:16 PM »
I'm working on it.  Give me half an hour or so.

Offline Rin

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2007, 11:02:17 PM »
*shrugs* I don't know about you guys, but I certainly don't mind the bandages...

Jefepato's already gotten his character in, so I just need one more before I can open up a board, gents...

Oh, I don't mind them. I'm just confused by them.

And my PC will be done tonight and I'll send her in tomarrow. S'okay?

Offline Hunter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2007, 11:07:53 PM »
I managed to finish mine...Wow, that was difficult....

Offline Jefepato

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2007, 07:36:59 PM »
Hey, GB, what's the word on this one?  Do we have a board in the works?

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Ever Watch too Much Ninja Anime...?
« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2007, 07:38:40 PM »