14 years in the coming.. I wonder..

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Callie Del Noire

Now that it's out.. Who will win the Vaporware awards now?


Wolfy

The Ground-breaking, world changing version of the game.

From what I hear.

Callie Del Noire


Inkidu

I guess you could always hope for Starcraft Ghost.
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Oniya

Hm... To qualify, a game company would have to promise and not deliver, right? 
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Inkidu

Quote from: Oniya on June 14, 2011, 03:57:26 PM
Hm... To qualify, a game company would have to promise and not deliver, right?
Yeah.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Inkidu on June 14, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
I guess you could always hope for Starcraft Ghost.

Ghost was officially cancelled.

Inkidu

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 14, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
Ghost was officially cancelled.
A remake of Final Fantasy VII? Fans want it bad enough it might as well be stalled in production. I think they refuse to acknowledge the fact that no one in Square Enix is working on it. It's like a shady shadow project or something.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Inkidu on June 14, 2011, 06:57:13 PM
A remake of Final Fantasy VII? Fans want it bad enough it might as well be stalled in production. I think they refuse to acknowledge the fact that no one in Square Enix is working on it. It's like a shady shadow project or something.

Wish they would.. HATED the last one.. Most likely will never buy another one.

Inkidu

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 14, 2011, 07:03:29 PM
Wish they would.. HATED the last one.. Most likely will never buy another one.
I know. I rented it because I was still hating on 12. I played it, I thought it was going to get deeper, twenty hours of tutorial later I was wrong. Decided the game was telling me to shut up, sit in the corner, and watch the pretty colors flash by. Wanted to trade it back, but my brother thought he could beat it.

I bet him a new game he couldn't do it. He got to Grand Pulse and said, "Screw it, it's not worth it." Grand Pulse being just a really big, long corridor.

I'm not buying another one. If I'm really curious I'll rent. Plus, does Square-Enix actually think 13-2 will sell? Because that worked so great last time. 
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Inkidu on June 14, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
I know. I rented it because I was still hating on 12. I played it, I thought it was going to get deeper, twenty hours of tutorial later I was wrong. Decided the game was telling me to shut up, sit in the corner, and watch the pretty colors flash by. Wanted to trade it back, but my brother thought he could beat it.

I bet him a new game he couldn't do it. He got to Grand Pulse and said, "Screw it, it's not worth it." Grand Pulse being just a really big, long corridor.

I'm not buying another one. If I'm really curious I'll rent. Plus, does Square-Enix actually think 13-2 will sell? Because that worked so great last time.

X and X-11 were.. OKAY. The last one? I spent three hours trying to beat the 'tutorial end boss' as I think of him (when I'm being polite and not merely stringing cuss words together). I would get him down to the last 20% or so..and he'd cheap shot me . Again and again and again and again.

Inkidu

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 14, 2011, 07:23:52 PM
X and X-11 were.. OKAY. The last one? I spent three hours trying to beat the 'tutorial end boss' as I think of him (when I'm being polite and not merely stringing cuss words together). I would get him down to the last 20% or so..and he'd cheap shot me . Again and again and again and again.
Is that the boss right after you can finally decide who you want in your party?
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Tsenta

They've already announced there isn't going to be a FF7 remake, ages ago.  That little snippet of gameplay/movie people DID see was just a demo of the PS3's capabilities (kinda wish people would just let it go, there's no remake move along.)

Actually 13 has a good following, so 13-2 may or may not be a good seller.
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Inkidu

Quote from: Tsenta on June 14, 2011, 07:30:55 PM
They've already announced there isn't going to be a FF7 remake, ages ago.  That little snippet of gameplay/movie people DID see was just a demo of the PS3's capabilities (kinda wish people would just let it go, there's no remake move along.)

Actually 13 has a good following, so 13-2 may or may not be a good seller.
Not remaking FF VII kind of reminds me of that artist who makes one stellar song, gets rich, but can never produce anything that good again. Seriously, S.E. would not be $150 million in the red right now if they'd just suck it up and remake the game, and VIII and IX while they're at it. Heck maybe even X.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Tsenta on June 14, 2011, 07:30:55 PM
They've already announced there isn't going to be a FF7 remake, ages ago.  That little snippet of gameplay/movie people DID see was just a demo of the PS3's capabilities (kinda wish people would just let it go, there's no remake move along.)

Actually 13 has a good following, so 13-2 may or may not be a good seller.

They've done remakes before if I recall things. Old games ported to new systems and such. (Mostly portables)

Tsenta

The games are pretty good on their own, there's no real need for remakes seriously.  Their games may not be what YOU like but that doesn't mean they're not selling.



Ports aren't remakes on the scale you're thinking of. To have an ACTUAL remake they'd have to rehaul all the graphics, coding, etc.
There ain't no rest for the wicked.

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Inkidu

Quote from: Tsenta on June 14, 2011, 07:43:23 PM
The games are pretty good on their own, there's no real need for remakes seriously.  Their games may not be what YOU like but that doesn't mean they're not selling.



Ports aren't remakes on the scale you're thinking of. To have an ACTUAL remake they'd have to rehaul all the graphics, coding, etc.
If they were selling so well, S.E. wouldn't have bought up Eidos to compete in the Western markets and they wouldn't be so bad in the red.
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Tsenta

To be fair, try to find a business that ISN'T in the red. Especially in this economy.
There ain't no rest for the wicked.

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Callie Del Noire

True..  maybe they are hoping they can get some of the Tomb Raider movie mojo going.. You got to admit Tomb Raider movies are better than the square enix ones to the average movie goers.

Tsenta

I don't even LIKE the Tomb Raider games yet I've seen the movies, pathetic huh?
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Oniya

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And in that endeavor, laziness will not do." ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think we're never gonna win this war
Robin Williams-Dead Poets Society ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think your world's gonna fall apart
I do have a cause, though.  It's obscenity.  I'm for it.  - Tom Lehrer~*~All you need is your beautiful heart
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Wyrd

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Wyrd

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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Wyrd on June 14, 2011, 10:47:04 PM
I... Didn't hate doom.

but it could have been MUCH better.. the 'chainsaw' cam trick was bad bad bad..


Wyrd

*Sigh...* True. Also their making a full length Mass Effect anime movie... Oh... Oh God *Pukes blood*
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Wyrd on June 14, 2011, 10:52:17 PM
*Sigh...* True. Also their making a full length Mass Effect anime movie... Oh... Oh God *Pukes blood*

Don't know about an anime.. could be good.. could be bad.

I know that Uwe Boll has tried to get SEVERAL big projects (or said he wanted to) like Metal Gear and Halo (I'd love to here their designer's replies to that)

Wyrd

#27
Well, anime anything is always bad. So I'll be staying away from that like a blue waffle. And... I'd very much prefer Halo and Metal Gear to be... umm Sacred and not have to be subject to being a joke. *Cough* BlooRayne! *Couch*
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Wyrd on June 14, 2011, 11:04:08 PM
Well, anime anything is always bad. So I'll be staying away from that like a blue waffle. And... I'd very much prefer Halo and Metal Gear to be... umm Sacred and not have to be subject to being a joke. *Cough* BlooRayne! *Couch*

Now now.. BR the game was nice.. I enjoyed it. It was 'par' but fun. (Something about slicing up Nazi's was just fun).. but it takes a special kind of power to KILL a game franchise with a movie. :D

Wyrd

What a bastard. If Halo ever "does" get made, and by That guy. I'm gonna kill myself in a garbage fire. lol!
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Wyrd on June 14, 2011, 11:11:33 PM
What a bastard. If Halo ever "does" get made, and by That guy. I'm gonna kill myself in a garbage fire. lol!

It won't.. the folks at Microsoft know it's their baby.. Peter Jackson of LoTR fame was trying to get it..but no one was happy with a script and it fell through. Everyone involved knows the script has to be right..


Shjade

Quote from: Wyrd on June 14, 2011, 11:04:08 PM
Well, anime anything is always bad.
Mmm, ignorant generalizations. Delicious!
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Wyrd

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Quote from: Shjade on June 14, 2011, 11:45:16 PM
Mmm, ignorant generalizations. Delicious!

Personal view. A delicacy... I don't like anime. :P
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Inkidu

We could give Duke Nukem to Uwe Boll to make a movie out of. I don't think anyone could care. If DNF is any indication it's already set up.
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Oniya

I've only seen the ads for the game, but - are you sure he wasn't involved in the game-writing end of it?
"Language was invented for one reason, boys - to woo women.~*~*~Don't think it's all been done before
And in that endeavor, laziness will not do." ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think we're never gonna win this war
Robin Williams-Dead Poets Society ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think your world's gonna fall apart
I do have a cause, though.  It's obscenity.  I'm for it.  - Tom Lehrer~*~All you need is your beautiful heart
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Inkidu

Quote from: Oniya on June 15, 2011, 03:08:40 PM
I've only seen the ads for the game, but - are you sure he wasn't involved in the game-writing end of it?
Probably not, but Duke has never been known for its stellar story. "Aliens stole our chicks." That's it from what I can tell.
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Oniya

Ah, then Boll would be a good fit for it.  *nods*
"Language was invented for one reason, boys - to woo women.~*~*~Don't think it's all been done before
And in that endeavor, laziness will not do." ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think we're never gonna win this war
Robin Williams-Dead Poets Society ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think your world's gonna fall apart
I do have a cause, though.  It's obscenity.  I'm for it.  - Tom Lehrer~*~All you need is your beautiful heart
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Inkidu

Quote from: Oniya on June 15, 2011, 03:27:28 PM
Ah, then Boll would be a good fit for it.  *nods*
Nah, he'll probably still find some way to screw it up. He's Uwe Boll.

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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Inkidu on June 15, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
Nah, he'll probably still find some way to screw it up. He's Uwe Boll.

He doesn't need to be successful. Here is the secret of Uwe Boll. He produces movies that LOSE money. His investors are looking for a tax break and he gives them one with each loss. I wonder where he works from now since there was word that the Germans were looking to reform their tax code to eliminate that loophole he'd been using.

Inkidu

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 15, 2011, 03:36:29 PM
He doesn't need to be successful. Here is the secret of Uwe Boll. He produces movies that LOSE money. His investors are looking for a tax break and he gives them one with each loss. I wonder where he works from now since there was word that the Germans were looking to reform their tax code to eliminate that loophole he'd been using.
I suppose Kingdom Hearts 3 for the sake of on topic.

Honestly, is that really it? It gives people tax breaks? The man should be brought up on crimes against humanity.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Inkidu on June 15, 2011, 03:42:22 PM
I suppose Kingdom Hearts 3 for the sake of on topic.

Honestly, is that really it? It gives people tax breaks? The man should be brought up on crimes against humanity.

I don't know about his last atrocities, but BloodRayne, House of the Dead, and Alone in the Dark were all 'tax write off' movies. They had to fail for his investors.

Oniya

So why hasn't he produced 'Springtime for Hitler' yet?


(*hopes someone catches the reference*)
"Language was invented for one reason, boys - to woo women.~*~*~Don't think it's all been done before
And in that endeavor, laziness will not do." ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think we're never gonna win this war
Robin Williams-Dead Poets Society ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think your world's gonna fall apart
I do have a cause, though.  It's obscenity.  I'm for it.  - Tom Lehrer~*~All you need is your beautiful heart
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Inkidu

#42
Quote from: Callie Del Noire on June 15, 2011, 03:46:11 PM
I don't know about his last atrocities, but BloodRayne, House of the Dead, and Alone in the Dark were all 'tax write off' movies. They had to fail for his investors.
You know, I could tolerate a man liking video games and making bad movies, but he's making bad movies based on video games because he thinks (and insures) that they won't succeed. Wrong, just wrong.

EDIT, Oniya: The Producers, that's a fantastic movie.
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Shjade

He's trying to actually fail, Oni, not fail at failing. ;p
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Inkidu

Quote from: Shjade on June 15, 2011, 03:52:48 PM
He's trying to actually fail, Oni, not fail at failing. ;p
But if he tries to fail and succeeds then didn't he succeed?
If you're searching the lines for a point, well you've probably missed it; there was never anything there in the first place.

Oniya

Failing at failing is when you try so hard to make something bad that it ends up good.
"Language was invented for one reason, boys - to woo women.~*~*~Don't think it's all been done before
And in that endeavor, laziness will not do." ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think we're never gonna win this war
Robin Williams-Dead Poets Society ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~Don't think your world's gonna fall apart
I do have a cause, though.  It's obscenity.  I'm for it.  - Tom Lehrer~*~All you need is your beautiful heart
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Callie Del Noire

#46
Quote from: Inkidu on June 15, 2011, 03:54:40 PM
But if he tries to fail and succeeds then didn't he succeed?

Have YOU seen his movies? (Being trapped in a space on watch on the boat makes for 'captive' audience)

When your choices are the Platform camera (at night, in blackout conditions), Jaws, House of the Dead and you've seen JAWS 90 MILLION times during workups..

Shjade

Quote from: Inkidu on June 15, 2011, 03:54:40 PM
But if he tries to fail and succeeds then didn't he succeed?
Yes, which is his goal.
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