Lucas changes Star Wars..again.

[Wolfy]

Darth Vader's 'Nooo!' in Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (ACTUAL Blu-Ray Clip)

Yep, so for the new Blu-Ray DVD release of all six films, George Lucas has decided to make even more changes to the Star Wars Films.

The one being most talked about is above, where Darth Vader says "No. NOOOO!!!" before betraying Palpatine. <3

Thoughts, oh Nerds of Elliquiy? :D

[Brandon]

Seems at best unneccessary and at worst a strange idea. There are other scenes in the movies that could use a change but this isnt one of them. I mean ok the first no, Im fine with because presumably its his first defiance against the emporer since he became Darth Vader. Thats fine, thats cool, it fits for the scene

However the second no just seems to be there for no real reason and makes Vader less of a badass IMO

[Slaven]

Seems at best unneccessary and at worst a strange idea. There are other scenes in the movies that could use a change but this isnt one of them. I mean ok the first no, Im fine with because presumably its his first defiance against the emporer since he became Darth Vader. Thats fine, thats cool, it fits for the scene

However the second no just seems to be there for no real reason and makes Vader less of a badass IMO

..Yeah, slashing Vader's badassness so was not cool.

[Oniya]

I am so glad I bought the un-edited version when it was available.  Han shoots first, Jabba doesn't show up until Jedi, and that one stormtrooper did clonk his head on the door.


Edit:  One more thing:  'Yub yub.'  (Anyone who gets that has definitively seen the originals.)

[Slaven]

..Ewoks ftw.

[Silverfyre]

My life's purpose is now to fire Lucas into the sun.

[HairyHeretic]

http://www.dorktower.com/images/comics/DorkTower979.gif

;D

[Will]

..Yeah, slashing Vader's badassness so was not cool.

After the prequels, I'm not sure there's any baddassness left to slash.

The whole reason the originals were great was because Lucas had people to second-guess him.  People to say, "Listen, George, that doesn't make any sense."  There's no one to do that, now.  And despite how hugely popular the originals were, he clearly still thinks they weren't "right."  He's a self-absorbed, deluded nutjob with a shit ton of money and no original ideas to spend it on.

[Oniya]

I pretty much gave up on the prequel trilogy.  The animated one wasn't so bad, but seeing Vader as a snot-nosed kid was like someone breaking out Vlad Tepes' baby book. 

[Slaven]

After the prequels, I'm not sure there's any baddassness left to slash.

The whole reason the originals were great was because Lucas had people to second-guess him.  People to say, "Listen, George, that doesn't make any sense."  There's no one to do that, now.  And despite how hugely popular the originals were, he clearly still thinks they weren't "right."  He's a self-absorbed, deluded nutjob with a shit ton of money and no original ideas to spend it on.

...I don't consider the prequels in my calculations. They are not Star Wars, they are just made by the same person. >.>

[Brandon]

I know I probably speak blasphemy here but I didnt think the prequels were that bad. They werent as awesome as the originals sure but they werent really bad besides a few plot holes. The only thing that really limited them was the fact that the 3rd one really should have been two movies. One dealing with the war for Kashyyk and general Grevious and one that handled his fall to the dark side. It was pretty clear they tried to fit to much into one movie and it made the entire prequels not work as well

[Oniya]

My problem with the prequels is mostly the sequencing.  If you go into them not knowing that the whiny kid grows up to be Vader, it's probably not as jarring.  The 'reimagining' done in the DVD and now BluRay releases is the real heresy.

[Slaven]

I know I probably speak blasphemy here but I didnt think the prequels were that bad. They werent as awesome as the originals sure but they werent really bad besides a few plot holes. The only thing that really limited them was the fact that the 3rd one really should have been two movies. One dealing with the war for Kashyyk and general Grevious and one that handled his fall to the dark side. It was pretty clear they tried to fit to much into one movie and it made the entire prequels not work as well

..I actually kinda agree with the third movie thing. Still, all the whining and the cry baby moments kinda ruined Vader. Had they removed the tears, it could have been acceptable.

[Silverfyre]

This sums up the third movie pretty well for me:

Star Wars in 5 seconds

[Slaven]

..That was pro.

[Telivi]

Sometimes those "in 5 seconds" and the other things like it are way better than the originals.  That one was one of 'em.

Eh, it's sad that he keeps adding new things, yes.

I think of the "prequels" as fanfiction, to be honest.

[Keelan]

This sums up the third movie pretty well for me:

Star Wars in 5 seconds

...am I the only one who watched this and her first thought was 'wait, that was longer than five seconds!' >.>

But yeah, aside from the aforementioned problems with them - and that sin against all things good and decent named Jar Jar Binks - the 'first' three are not so bad.  I do wonder what the hell happens to Ahsoka Tano from the animated series before Episode III... can anybody answer that?

[Slaven]

..Sadly enough, I thought Jar Jar Binks was the only redeeming quality of the three. Gave me a slight little fulfillment despite the obvious lack of Ewoks.

[Sabby]

I love not being a Star Wars fan ^^ I know I'm parroting Yahtzee here, but only because he worded it so much better then I could. Star Wars has been steadily falling apart after the second movie and the level of denial from hardcore fans is just fun to watch.

And people who claim Jar Jar is racist have their racism filter all wonky. Yes, he looks, acts and talks like an illiterate black slave, but they kind of missed the asians in the Trade Federation and the flying Jew ripping Anakins mum off...

[Xanatos]

This is what happened to Ahsoka Tano. See Spoiler.

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Love that "5 sec" vid -laughs-. "Boy did I bet on the wrong horse."

Well just play devil's advocate for a split second, Lucas owns Star Wars, so he can do as he likes.


Back to reality! Lucas really does need to quit jacking up Star Wars. The shit he lets happen to such a glorious universe makes me cry. I could go on down a list of rants I have against things he has allowed/done, one of them the tragedy that is the recent Bioware KOTOR MMORPG. I will now begin a severe rant. Anyone who isn't a strong SW nerd like me, might not want to read.

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For gods sake, SITH DO NOT GET FUCKING BULLRUSHED BY BLOODY EFFING MUDANE AS HELL CLONE TROOPERS THAT DID NOT EXIST!! Why in the hell are they wearing crappy looking stormtrooper armor? Why ARE THE SITH using Star Destroyers and TIE Fighters?! WHY DID THE TROOPER AND THE SITH LORD NOT GET ATOMIZED BY A POINT BLANK GRENADE BLAST?!?!

My lord, the lunacy alone in the that KOTOR trailer, is maddening! Then you add in the prequels, the crap-tastic Yuuzhan Vong (me and my friend thoroughly picked that race and its pathetic over powered self to bits and tiny pieces. We found ways, within Star Wars tech limits/possiblities, to beat the Vong without much effort). No Force signature? Fine, I still see a void in the Force which is the Vong and just hack and slash at the black shape within the Force energy... Force Vision anyone? Kill the thing that I can't see through! Besides, since the Force is essentially the life essence of the entire Galaxy, the Vong could not exist, so that solves everything right there. But blowing their World ships to bits and pieces, and just simply (guess what), cutting their FREAKING heads off with a lightsaber or a precise sniper shot, kills them too and is so much more fun!

Why in all that is creative and enjoyable, is Star Wars merely a damned circular occurrence of the same events that happen over and over and over? Sith attack Republic, kill Jedi, Jedi survive, retaliate, drive Sith away, Republic grows back with Miracle Grow, rinse and repeat. I kid you not... Look at Wookiepedia and read the history in chronological order. Its Sith versus Jedi/Republic without fail. They added in some Mandolorian for some spice but then the fans and now Bioware beat that one to death (I loath Mandolorians). One of the wars is Sith wannabes, but eventually even they get subsumed by the Sith. -gags- Why can the Jedi not learn from over TEN THOUSAND years of mistakes and STOP making them?! The Jedi are supposed to be wise beyond compare thanks to the Force. Even an idiot could tell that the Jedi pretty much bring about the Sith every time. They feed the ranks by causing their pupils to spurn their teachings in disgust, somehow becoming evil in the process.

That is another thing! Suddenly just because people don't agree or make life mistakes, they turn evil? How many bloody times has that been used in SW cannon? I'm evil! No I am not anymore, I decided I was being stupid and want to be good again, just because someone told me I was stupid and now I suddenly realize I was such a goober.

Now we have Bioware doing the same damn thing -sighs-. Can anyone be semi-original? Is Star Wars a universe only populated by Sith, Jedi and their Republic lapdogs? Is there not a diverse minagerie of aliens and cultures? Zeltrons, Whiphids, Lorridians, Gand, Zabrak, and the list goes on! What ever happened to new and cool star ships that aren't knock offs of the originals? Why is the SW universe technologically stunted? Why do they call particle weapons lasers? Lasers are a constant stream of energy, while particle energy is a burst of energy that hits equally like a solid object as well as energy. They are not using laser cannons, they are using Particle cannons. Only in Clone Wars did they actually show an honest to god laser cannon, but it was a minor secondary weapon.

Star Wars has Killer Whales for aliens, Werewolves, squid, octopusses, an over abundance of insectoids, and so much more! Does anyone feel like going into a Gothic styled Zoo where the animals might rip your heads off or just bite you and cause you to reawaken later as one of them? There was even a Vampire! Created by the Force in some freak experiment gone wrong! -cringes-

Having vented many of my frustrations with the EU, I still am a diehard Star Wars fan. It is an awesome universe, and of course ORIGINAL first three movies. It captures my imagination like nothing else, and probably like nothing else ever will. In my Graphic design classes, I have used Star Wars to give me inspiration for a few projects, saving me from a previously stalled inspiration.

So as not to bore people with my SW nerdom, I have spoilered more of my ranting, good ranting this time.

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Many of the SW novels are great. Thrawn Trilogy was good. Thrawn was such an awesome bad guy. They should have kept him around. Yes, he was powerful, but they should have created a counter to him which kept the Empire and Republic duking it out, or with Thrawn causing havok, and the Republic having to struggle (not as much as the books though), to keep up with his brilliance. The thing about Thrawn, though, was that it was all logical and reasonable. He was not a god complex character. If anyone analyzes his tactics, he was not doing anything impossible. His greatest strength was to see patterns in behavior and predict outcomes. Even I do that! To a lesser extent, yes, but anyone can do it really, even if they don't realize it. He thought outside of the box, equal in value to his behavior prediction, actually.

Starfighters of Adumar of the X-wing series was great! Wedge and his self proclaimed merry band of reprobates were hilarious. Wes Janson and Wedge himself had be laughing so much. Besides the Humor, the book was very well written.

All said and done, I just wish Lucas would leave SW alone, leave it to the people who do it justice, or be more selective in what he allows to become cannon. Is that too much to ask for?

[Slaven]

*Bows at Xanatos' feet and praises him for his knowledge and obvious frustrations of the subject as a whole.*

Actually, I pretty much love everything in your ran spoiler, including the information on Bioware..My gods did they make me hate Mandolorians.

[MarkFischer]

As far as I can tell, George Lucas created something grand, then proceeded to carefully ram it into the ground.

[meikle]

Star Wars has been steadily falling apart after the second movie and the level of denial from hardcore fans is just fun to watch.

o_O

Most hardcore fans I know are at the front of the line to let everyone know that Lucas is doing his best to 'fix' something that nobody thinks is broken (and breaking it in the process).

[Xanatos]

Thanks Slaven. Good to hear someone else agreeing with my sentiments. Its frustrating to love SW and yet hate it at the same time. Its just one of those love hate relationships. Alas!

[Sabby]

I've met hardcore fans who say that "Force Unleashed 2 actually fits quite nicely between episodes 3 and 4" >.>

[Xanatos]

Those fans are heretics... And that is putting it kindly.

[Will]

As far as I can tell, George Lucas created something grand, then proceeded to carefully ram it into the ground.

The problem is that he didn't actually make it.  Not alone, at least.  He had tons of creative input for the original trilogy, and people to challenge him on things.  More and more, I come to believe that everything that I loved about Star Wars actually came from someone else, and that Lucas argued against it every step of the way.

[Sabby]

Never argue with a man who looks like he built his own log cabin in the winter while wrestling bears. Your going to lose.

[Xanatos]

Well if its true, which I don't doubt, Lucas actually wrote the idea out before making the movie. Thus he actually did come up with the grand ideas himself. Those "others" merely helped bring his ideas to the visual screen. Its not beyond plausibility that he started out great but just degenerated into the crap he gives now. Its not at all impossible for one person to think up amazing things all by oneself. Any author worth his or her weight in salt, has to do it by necessity.

As much as I dislike Lucas, I think its unfair to bash him to a point. Everyone knows his original movies are great. I do believe everyone accepts, as well, that he tried his damndest, and succeeded, in keeping the original three as close to his vision as he could for the technology constraints of the time.

I think what is happening is that Lucas is being like any author - seeing things he doesn't like or thinks he can improve upon. The difference is he has the power to do so. Does that make it right? Not reallt. Ret-conning is not something done lightly like he seems to be doing. Especially since he seems to be pissing people off while doing it, heh.

[Oniya]

I love not being a Star Wars fan ^^ I know I'm parroting Yahtzee here, but only because he worded it so much better then I could. Star Wars has been steadily falling apart after the second movie and the level of denial from hardcore fans is just fun to watch.

And people who claim Jar Jar is racist have their racism filter all wonky. Yes, he looks, acts and talks like an illiterate black slave, but they kind of missed the asians in the Trade Federation and the flying Jew ripping Anakins mum off...

The really hardcore fans are too busy pounding their heads against their desks to deny that Lucas is botching it...

And actually, I never saw Jar Jar as racist - just annoying as all get-out.  Stupid, clumsy, shrill, barely comprehensible, not even cute and fluffy - does that creature have any redeeming qualities?

[Sabby]

Yeah. He's a general and a senator.

[Callie Del Noire]

I thought, aside from adding things like the dewbacks and mechs, that the redoes of the first trilogy were pretty much a waste of time. (Greebo shooting first still causes my blood pressure to spike. HAN SHOT FIRST.. )

That being said, I found a cure for it.. don't buy the new stuff. :D

Of course I thought the monologues in Blade Runner were cool.. so what do I know?

[Brandon]

For what its worth I would still like to see movies about the new Jedi order (after return of the Jedi) but thats probably a pipe dream at best. It seems like the only creative direction he could take the setting.

[Sabby]

It's been done.

http://www.cracked.com/article/167_5-reasons-star-wars-sequels-would-be-worse-than-prequels/

Luke Skywalker, again demonstrating his complete and total dementia, forgets every single detail about his father's life and builds a new Jedi Order that encourages emotional ties and marriages. Han Solo and Princess Leia have three kids, one of whom turns into a Sith, and Luke has a son with some redhead.

[Brandon]

I said movies, not comics, books and other stuff and lets be honest cracked is a lot like wikipedia. It is not a reputable source of information

Edit: One other point, the one video game for the new jedi order that I played was actually pretty good IMO

[Sabby]

I said movies, not comics, books and other stuff and lets be honest cracked is a lot like wikipedia. It is not a reputable source of information

Edit: One other point, the one video game for the new jedi order that I played was actually pretty good IMO

If by 'not reputable' you mean unprofession and hilariously honest, then amen. I'll believe Cracked over Wikipedia any day. It has roughly the same level of quality with none of the bullshit.

[Slaven]

It's been done.

http://www.cracked.com/article/167_5-reasons-star-wars-sequels-would-be-worse-than-prequels/

..So,I now can't stop laughing. I'm going to go crawl away and hide now until I stop snickering.

[Inkidu]

I honestly don't care. Lucas is just your classic perfectionist. In his mind his work is somehow lacking and he will change it to something he thinks is more suitable. Fans really shouldn't be up in arms about it, they really shouldn't.

[Xanatos]

Fans have a right to be up in arms. If anyone releases their work out to the public for their enjoyment and criticism, what on Earth do you think the fans are going to do? They will praise or rail against it. There will be those who find it okay, and then there will be those who are zealously hardcore. Its basically the whole reason anyone releases work to the public. They want fan reaction. Any sane author might even make alterations to further iterations of their novels based off fan reactions. Not all, but I've heard of a fair amount that do.

I am hardcore, I but I am still not zealous. I don't go to the lengths that many fans do. I'm still sane and willing to debate (though I freely admit, it won't be an easy debate as I have my SW biases).


And Oniya is right, Cracked is not worth listening too. Obviously the people have no clue what caused Anakin to fall and thus put out that clueless statement about the Jedi Order books. Jacen's fall to the dark side was a pathetic attempt by an author to create drama. It made no sense at all, especially since he had had a brush or fall to the Dark side previously and had been rescued from it. He had already been redeemed. Why would he suddenly fall so easily now?

Getting back to, Anakin; he fell not because of emotions, but because the Jedi Order (chiefly Yoda) failed to recognize how dangerous controlling emotions was; and Yoda told him to accept the loss of his wife and children... (big fat red flashing warning lights anyone?) The Old Order assumed emotions (a normal Human and alien aspect) was dangerous, when in reality emotions are helpful more often than not. Controlling emotions only leads to desperate angry outbursts.

Then you add into the mix Palpatine skillfully (although poorly written in the movie) manipulating those emotions to his advantage. Anakin had lost faith in the Order and turned to someone he thought actually understood him. Its not beyond the realm of belief. I certainly would have told the Order to go screw themselves if they told me to leave my wife and unborn children to oblivion. What sane husband wouldn't try and save his wife and children?

Luke's new Order is actually a vast improvement over the Old Order. If you take the time to read about it, Luke made some smart changes. I won't get into details, as it will get lengthy. I point to Wookiepedia.

[Oniya]

To be fair, that was Brandon, not me.  I still wouldn't use Cracked as a 'reference', seeing as I remember the dead-tree versions of it and Mad magazine (which was vastly superior - Viva Aragones!).

[NotoriusBEN]

there are some interesting fact fillings from cracked though..

Like the leinholder of the deathstar(s) for one...

[Inkidu]

Fans have a right to be up in arms. If anyone releases their work out to the public for their enjoyment and criticism, what on Earth do you think the fans are going to do? They will praise or rail against it. There will be those who find it okay, and then there will be those who are zealously hardcore. Its basically the whole reason anyone releases work to the public. They want fan reactiheon. Any sane author might even make alterations to further iterations of their novels based off fan reactions. Not all, but I've heard of a fair amount that do.

I am hardcore, I but I am still not zealous. I don't go to the lengths that many fans do. I'm still sane and willing to debate (though I freely admit, it won't be an easy debate as I have my SW biases).

Well, yes and no. Do fans have any rights to the work? Eh, no. As much as I love a lot of stuff out there, It's not going to work. This is why Bioware gets as much flak as it does. Fan input is typically like design-by-committee. What one group of fans want is not what they all want. The author thing goes both ways. Sure, he might change something based on fan input (not likely at all), however, a creator has the right to change his work without fan consent. That's just kind of how it works. It's actually quite common for an author to change things based on what he thinks needs changing. That's why books go through editions (more so in the past than now). This is just Lucas popping out edition number 3 (made up number) of Star Wars. Work hard, find a first edition.

Sadly childhoods aren't usually sufficient considerations for courts . Just remember it the way you want too.

[meikle]

Just because fans can't sue Lucas doesn't mean we aren't allowed to comment that he is making his works of art worse.

If you create a work of art and show it to people, people get to criticize it.  That is the nature of publication.

[Inkidu]

Just because fans can't sue Lucas doesn't mean we aren't allowed to comment that he is making his works of art worse.

If you create a work of art and show it to people, people get to criticize it.  That is the nature of publication.

I didn't say they couldn't not really, but he doesn't have to listen to them.

[Oniya]

The only way for the fans to get him to 'listen' to them is by making it unprofitable for him to do it.  I.E., if you don't like the remakes, don't throw money at them in any way.

[Missy]

Agreed with Oniya. Demand the classic originals!!!

[Inkidu]

The only way for the fans to get him to 'listen' to them is by making it unprofitable for him to do it.  I.E., if you don't like the remakes, don't throw money at them in any way.

I'm pretty sure that would be difficult. That's why I went with the suing route at least it was honestly impossible. I think Lucas could make tons in world-wide sales not just American. :\

[Slaven]

Well, yes and no. Do fans have any rights to the work? Eh, no. As much as I love a lot of stuff out there, It's not going to work. This is why Bioware gets as much flak as it does. Fan input is typically like design-by-committee. What one group of fans want is not what they all want. The author thing goes both ways. Sure, he might change something based on fan input (not likely at all), however, a creator has the right to change his work without fan consent. That's just kind of how it works. It's actually quite common for an author to change things based on what he thinks needs changing. That's why books go through editions (more so in the past than now). This is just Lucas popping out edition number 3 (made up number) of Star Wars. Work hard, find a first edition.

Sadly childhoods aren't usually sufficient considerations for courts . Just remember it the way you want too.

Actually, one of the oldest rules in sales ever is "The customer is always right." So, if he wants to keep up his sales, the customer is always right..

[Oniya]

Ah, but I never said it would be possible - just that it was probably the only thing that would be effective.  :P

[Inkidu]

Actually, one of the oldest rules in sales ever is "The customer is always right." So, if he wants to keep up his sales, the customer is always right..

That's what the salespeople tell you to get you to buy things. "The real adage is more like Make the customer think they're right." I still think the majority of people are going to buy it.

Actually, knowing what a damnably shrewd business man Lucas is this will be his strategy:

Slowly over various releases change small things to see what fans like and don't.
Do this over several years and then release the remastered but unchanged "classic" edition for ruinous amounts of money.

Despite what his fans think Lucas is not stupid. Not by a long shot.

[Chris Brady]

Actually, one of the oldest rules in sales ever is "The customer is always right." So, if he wants to keep up his sales, the customer is always right..

As anyone in the service industry will tell you, that's something no one believes or even enforces.  As Indiku says, it's there to make you, the customer, feel better about the purchase.

The only thing you can do is, not buy the product.

I love Star Wars, but the changes, not so much.

[Slaven]

That's what the salespeople tell you to get you to buy things. "The real adage is more like Make the customer think they're right." I still think the majority of people are going to buy it.

Actually, knowing what a damnably shrewd business man Lucas is this will be his strategy:

Slowly over various releases change small things to see what fans like and don't.
Do this over several years and then release the remastered but unchanged "classic" edition for ruinous amounts of money.

Despite what his fans think Lucas is not stupid. Not by a long shot.

My only point was, you said fans shouldn't complain..Customers always have the right to complain. :)

[Will]

Red Letter Media's reviews of the prequels pretty much sum up my feelings on those movies, as well as the changes made to the originals in the re-releases.

Here's the review for Phantom Menace.  It's pretty long, but also entertaining in its own right.  Lots of good points.  I think my favorite is when people were asked to describe Amidala's character without mentioning what she looked like, what her profession was, or her role in the movie.  Tough question.

Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Review (Part 1 of 7)

[Slaven]

Actually, Will, that's perfect for me as well.

[Sel Nar]

SaveStarWars.com has found a brilliant ally in the crusade to stop George Lucas from monkeying with the Star Wars movies: George Lucas, himself. http://savestarwars.com/lucasspeechagainstspecialedition.html

Notable quotes include the following.


"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society."
** He's the copyright holder, they're his movies, but I'd have a hard time believing that "profit" and "an exercise of power" are alien concepts to LucasFilm.

"Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control."
** This is from the guy who can't seem to find the original negatives of Episode IV and who replaced Sebastian Shaw's Jedi-ghost with Hayden Christensen's.

"In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten."
** I'll be right back; I have to go buy the unaltered original trilogy from Best Buy.

"The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests."
** Who shot who first?

"And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work."
** George, your adopted kids' cybernetic great-grandchildren will somehow still have a death grip on this franchise, we all know it.

(Shamelessly 'borrowed' from Aaron Williams' blog)

[Sabby]

I'm not caffienated enough to read all of this, but... couldn't they just release unedited but remastered editions of the movies right next to the new ones with the silly pointless CGI alien strippers? I mean... maybe I lack the fire in my chest that is fanboyism, but that just seems like a no brainer solution. No one will buy the shitty edits if the old stuff is on the same rack for half the price.

[Oniya]

It's not even that the old ones are available for half-price.  They aren't available at all, unless you find them in a garage sale or eBay.

[Sabby]

Thats so stupid. He knows people generally don't mesh with his 'creative additions', he must realize that the market for remastered original releases is somewhere along the value of crude oil in golden barrels with a doggy bag of cocaine.

[Brandon]

It's not even that the old ones are available for half-price.  They aren't available at all, unless you find them in a garage sale or eBay.

or torrent...just saying

[Callie Del Noire]

I think you'll only see the originals if you find them moved to DVD by hard core fans or.. a new version given out after George moves off this mortal coil. I'm sure the original negatives are hidden DEEP in a vault at Skywalker Ranch and only after George has moved on will someone else find it.

[NotoriusBEN]

That's what the salespeople tell you to get you to buy things. "The real adage is more like Make the customer think they're right." I still think the majority of people are going to buy it.

Actually, knowing what a damnably shrewd business man Lucas is this will be his strategy:

Slowly over various releases change small things to see what fans like and don't.
Do this over several years and then release the remastered but unchanged "classic" edition for ruinous amounts of money.

Despite what his fans think Lucas is not stupid. Not by a long shot.

my god, its the coca cola ''classic'' fiasco all over again.

[Inkidu]

my god, its the coca cola ''classic'' fiasco all over again.

I don't think you're supposed to use fiasco in a situation where Coke-a-Cola made tons of money, but yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm waiting for that to happen.