Sigil Prep

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kongming

Well, two wonderful people are running one on one games for me, so I thought I might offer to run a game here that I find fun and interesting, and see what the response is like.

The game is called Sigil Prep. I once ran it as a tabletop, and there are a few games of it floating around online. This game would of course carry a higher rating than the others.

Premise: Take Planescape (the multi-planar anything-goes D&D world). Add a teen movie. Add Harry Potter. Add a high-school romance/comedy anime. Add a "Let's make fun of D&D!" webcomic. For this one, add a hentai, or regular porn/erotica or whatever. Mix it all together. I did not come up with the game/setting, but it's available for all to view: http://www.sigilprep.com/

Players would all be first-years, starting their new life at this wonderful school/Uni. I figure the rules can be used to make the character sheets, then a fair bit of leeay will be given throughout the game, mostly freeforming it.

What you can expect:

Sex
It's a high school/University. Of course there's sex. People get together for a relationship or quick fling all the time.
-Weird races will quite possibly be featuring, based on what you play and want
-Rape? Well, even without all the tentacle monsters (mind flayers etc.) it could still happen. Let me know if you want that, so I know which category to put the game in.
-Some of the curricular activities (adventures/mini-dungeoncrawls) will be sexually themed, and thus quite bizarre.

Fetishes/Kinky stuff
-If you want to make it happen, then make it happen. If you want me to make it happen, let me know. I'm not setting a "You can't do X" rule
(other than what's outlined in the site rules, naturally)
-Considering it's high-magic, you can easily make the bizarre or impossible occur. Have fun
-In accordance with my Ons, you can expect various uniforms to be described, and adventurers to have stylish outfits
-Likewise, there'll be various "almost human" races, and Succubi, and a few others.
-Once again, because of my Ons, rule infractions will be punished with spankings, and there may even be a spanking-themed dungeon.
-With that said, you may want to really make sure you insert your Ons to make it enjoyable for all

What I'm after:
A few players. I could make this a 1 on 1 game, or we could have a small handful of players. Basically any race or monster is allowed, however the game starts at 3rd level, so if it's a high-ECL monster, you'll need to slowly grow into the finished creature. Throw ideas at me. Heck, for now, just say if you're interested.

Currently gathering interest. It might be a little while before anything comes of this idea, or I might start things really quickly.
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Jeramiahh

... Planescape, Harry Potter, anime, D&D parody, and hentai... Wait, did I write this, or something?

Tis sounds awesome... I'd love to get in on it. =)
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schnookums

Heh, any race or monster is allowed? Does this mean I could play my faerie dragoness character I've been dying to play? ;)

kongming

Why yes, yes it does. In Sigil Prep games I've played, ran or witnessed, I have seen the following races:
Humans
A Cat Hengeyokai (see: catgirl)
A mind flayer
A winter wolf
A multiheaded shadow half white dragon blue dragon
A platinum dragon (clone of Bahamut)
A yuan-ti abomination
A gnome
A halfling
A School Spiritfolk
A tiefling
An aasimar
An awakened cat
A red dragon
A nymph

The list goes on, really. So yes, you can play your faerie-dragoness character. Are you referring to the "Faerie-Dragon" from the Draconomicon?

And Jeramiahh, glad to have you on the team.
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schnookums

I wasn't too happy with how they did faerie dragons in Draconomicon, but that's the only one they've got as far as I know that would be the one I'd have to use. My physical description would probably deviate slightly from how they typically describe, if only because I already have a picture drawn of my dragoness, gosh darn it!

Does this mean I can play too?

kongming

Sure thing!

And there are other options - half-dragon fey creatures, half-fey dragons... Or we could work something out together. I'm pretty easy going, and I enjoy designing stuff.
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schnookums

Yay! I'm sure we'll be able to work something out, character-wise. Since the stats will be pretty secondary and all (at least, that's the impression I got.)

Hmm, I'll admit though that (as anyone who has gone through my on/offs and game ideas can attest to) that I'm keen on rape in these games, but...I don't want my preferences to dictate a game, either. I know you mentioned it as an option, but...well, I imagine it'd be something worked out among all the players and you.

TheAlchemist

Sounds like good fun to me too, though I've not had a chance to check out the rules yet  :) Put me down as definitely interested though, if there's still room.

kongming

#8
Yeah, the stats are indeed pretty secondary, for the most part. You'll have the stats, they'll work as a guide to what you can do, and you can get the joy of leveling up, but generally we'll freeform stuff. Or maybe I'll do all the rolling, and assign bonuses based on how good a job people are doing/how much fun results from stuff.

And in the bedroom, needless to say the rules get left at the door.

Yes, TheAlchemist, there is indeed still room.

I figure the ability scores can be "Choose numbers between 3 and 18, then add racial modifiers, final Intelligence can't be less than 6". I trust everyone to be mature about this.

2,700 GP starting equipment, and if it's not magical, assume it's free - you can have a million waterclocks or tents, and it's not going to really affect things.
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Jefepato

I'm trying to find something about this concept that isn't awesome, and so far I'm failing miserably.

Ixy

Please list me as 'interested'.  I look forward to any discussion/development... what can we do to help this get off the ground? 
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kongming

Awesome, it appears five people are interested!

In that case, the ball is rolling. So, throw character ideas at me and we can start work on this.
Incidentally, if it's a monster race, I'll take a look and tell you what *I* think the actual Level Adjustment is. I consider the WotC ones to be exaggerated to the extreme.

So, just for now, I'd like:
Basics: Race, Class, Sex
Concept: If you can sum them up in a sentence or describe them in a paragraph, that'd be great.
Interests: That is, the Ons you want fulfilled.

Feel free to bombard me with a whole bunch of ideas.
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Jeramiahh

I don't know where the hell this twisted idea came from, but it hit me halfway to class this afternoon... still need a name for him, though.

Race: Half-Satyr, Half-Succubus
Class: If the LA and HD don't keep him in levels until Epic, probably Bard, fitting with the Satyr
Sex: Male
Alignment: CN

Concept: Mommy Succubus and Daddy Satyr, the embodiments of Good and Evil Chaotic sexuality, fall in love and have kids. Their oldest, and the only male of the 11 children they've produced so far, is this character. Unlike the daughters, who emphasize the incredible beauty of both the Nymph and the Succubus, he looks like a fairly effeminate Satyr, a creature that's supposed to exude the same level of rugged maleness that Chuck Norris does.

To make his problems worse, despite being a creature of pure sexuality, he's fairly reserved about sex in general. Or maybe 'desensitized' would be a bit closer; when mommy and daddy fuck wildly at the drop of a hat, it sort of loses it's mystique fairly quickly. In fact, he's so reserved, he's still a virgin at the age of majority; most of his sisters have already been with multiple partners, only further fueling his reservations. His parents are hoping that, maybe, Sigil Prep can bring him to his senses. Or at least get him laid.
I'm not shy. I'm silently stalking my prey.
There are two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not quite sure about the first one.

Jefepato

Wait, is he supposed to be a half-fiend satyr or a half-satyr incubus?  (WotC did publish an article recently on adjusting the half-fiend template depending on the parent fiend's stats.)

I still need to devise my concept, though...hmm...

Jeramiahh

*shrug* Idea came first, practicality came second. I see him in my mind's eye as being more Satyr, but I'll leave it up to the DM to hammer out just what the hell this parentage creates.
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Jefepato

Half-fiend satyr would probably make more sense and be easier to swallow, ECL-wise (depending on how our esteemed DM adjusts the relevant LAs).  The WotC article is here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20060630a  (the half-succubus adjustments are in Part Three)

kongming

Well, four players have already given me ideas. How about the others?

For the record, I like everything I've been shown so far, so this should be fun.
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Muse

Noooo! 

Kong-chan!  You told me you'd let me know when you started this game!  (Or did your sisteR?) 

Anyways, please, please, please don't leave me behind? 
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kongming

Don't worry, there's still room ^_^
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Muse

Yay! 

Kylessa Hollybough.  Fey Kissed Sun Elf Female Swashbuckler 1, Elf Wizard 1, majoring in Bladesinger, minoring in Performance. 

Born in Silverymoon, Kylessa was aprenticed to a master bladesinger at a young age and kind fo railroaded into taking the Bladesinger's oath when she was barely old enough to understand the ramifications.  (60 or so.) 

Sworn to not only aid elves in need, but also uphold the elven way, Kylessa's been looking for the leven way ever since.  She left Silverymoon hafter having to kill a friend of hers because she was murdering moon elves who took human lovers in the name of the Eldreth Veluthra.  More than a little shook up by this, she left behidn the band she loved, and has come here seeking, not only training, but also a better understanding of the elven way. 

Oh, and don't forget new music! 
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Jefepato

Quote from: Muse on April 18, 2007, 09:18:45 AMKylessa Hollybough.  Fey Kissed Sun Elf Female Swashbuckler 1, Elf Wizard 1, majoring in Bladesinger, minoring in Performance.

What's a "fey kissed?"

kongming

IIRC, it's from the Book of Erotic fantasy. A template that represents either having a small amount of fey heritage, or simply being closely associated with fey long enough for some of the magic to rub off.

It's LA +1 and gives you a few nifty benefits.
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Jefepato

Why not use the feytouched race from the Fiend Folio, and just allow Muse to play a bladesinger on the assumption that the non-feytouched/half-fey parent was an elf?  The feykissed template seems pretty painful for a warrior-type, even if you don't object to that book on general principle.

Creeper

I've got a halfling totemist on the way for everyone's tanking needs.

Yes, a halfling can tank. Shut up.
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Jefepato

Of course a halfling can tank.  They wouldn't do so well with the more traditional tanking classes, but they don't lose CON or anything, so a halfling totemist could kick some ass.

Creeper

#27
How are we handling starting HP? Do we just use half hit die for each level?

The spread I'll be using is 18, 16, 16, 12, 12, and 8. Is that alright?

I'll also be using the Halfling Totemist substitution levels on pg 46.



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Creeper

Urg. Anyone know any good magic items for Totemists? A lot of what I want is either too expensive or will vanish when I start binding my chakras.
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Jefepato

But remember that you only get at most 5 chakra binds per day.  Which means only four slots on your body will ever be taken up (because I seriously doubt you'll ever be without a totem bind).

Other than going through the list and figuring out which soulmelds you don't much care for, I would recommend just sticking items in the slots you won't be able to bind for a long time.  Anything you're wearing now will be replaced well before you can bind, say, your heart chakra, so why not a belt of resistance?

Creeper

Fair enough, though my resistances are already pretty good (except will).

What are you thinking of playing, Jef?
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Rayve13

I'd be interested as well, if there's room. It's been awhile since I've done D&D stuff, but I love Planescape and some of the other settings as well. Now, if I can only sift through the ideas and get something figured out...any suggestions/party needs? I've got several books thanks to the Internet, so I'm pretty adaptable.

Jefepato

Quote from: Creeper on April 18, 2007, 05:08:43 PM
Fair enough, though my resistances are already pretty good (except will).

What are you thinking of playing, Jef?

The ninth rule of Fight Club is you do not fail saving throws in Fight Club.

I'm intending to play a doppelganger who will eventually become a cleric/chameleon, but I need to confer with our esteemed GM about handling the racial progression before figuring out exactly how this is gonna go.

kongming

#33
Sure thing, Rayve. As for suggestions: something you'd enjoy. Seriously.

As for Incarnum-users with magic items, I'd probably suggest slotless things, but that unfortunately tends to basically mean "scrolls, potions and wands". Oh, and magic weapons. Other than that, just choose items for the slots you won't likely be binding chakras to.

Hit Points are max for the first hit die, then 3/4 (round up) for the rest. So...
d4 = 3
d6 = 5
d8 = 6
d10 = 8
d12 = 9
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kongming

Remember, the sooner I have all character sheets (or at least decently written up concepts and descriptions), the sooner we can begin the fun and games!
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Jefepato

Sorry I'm not moving faster -- I've got a lot of work due this week.  I might be able to finish my sheet tonight, but if not tonight, sometime tomorrow after I get my paper turned in.

Rayve13

I need to go through my books and figure out what I want to do. I'm trying, I really am!

kongming

Just so all players know, once I have about 4 character sheets I'm going to start the game. The rest will be able to catch up, I'm not going to leave them far behind, but you may still want to keep that in mind.

I currently have two completed characters in.
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MadPanda

#38
Ooo, ooo, still room?

(grins hopefully)

Cranky panda needs distraction...

(scratches head)

And an idea.  Hmmm.  What HAVEN'T I done to death?  Maybe I should play a human this time... ;D
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Jefepato

Quote from: MadPanda on April 20, 2007, 11:22:46 AMAnd an idea.  Hmmm.  What HAVEN'T I done to death?  Maybe I should play a human this time... ;D

Unthinkable!

MadPanda

Well, I've already worked my poor little half-orc thief ragged, and the drow is one I've done almost unto expiration, and I don't have the books to do a ratling ninja-girl...pardon me, a nezumi kunoichi.  ;)

Human sorceress, probably.  If I can remember where I buried my 3.0 books...or at least the DMG, so I can use the NPC templates  ;D  Makes it easier.
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Jefepato

I could give you all the information you'd need on nezumi and ninja if you really had your heart set on that.

MadPanda

Oooooo...tempted.  Very tempted.   ;D  A Weaselly ninja would be better, but there might not be stats for those.
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Jefepato

Hengeyokai come in a weasel flavor, in the very same book.  However, hengeyokai take a hit to Wisdom, which is important for ninja.  Your call.

(Of course, since we're freeforming stats, a -2 isn't really so terrible...)

MadPanda

#44
Heart's not set on Ninja.  But Weasel-girl would be fun.  How 'bout Rogue equivalents?

UPDATE:  Ooo, ooo, I know!  Weasel-girl Sorceress with pet (white) rabbit.  ;D  Whiplash, anyone?
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Jefepato

Rogue, scout, and spellthief are the other main rogue-equivalents.  All are decent enough.

Per the 3.5 update, weasel hengeyokai have the following traits:
-2 Wisdom.
Two alternate forms: a perfectly normal weasel (it's in the Monster Manual), and a hybrid form which gains +2 Constitution and +4 to Move Silently.  The animal and hybrid forms both get low-light vision.
Hengeyokai are humanoids with the shapechanger subtype.  Their favored class is wu jen.  Thanks to the 3.5 update, they have no level adjustment.

MadPanda

Hmmm.  Spellthief?   :)
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Jefepato

Indeed.  If you have no access to Complete Adventurer, I can PM you the details (it's a bit long to clog this thread up with) after I get back from class this afternoon.

MadPanda

No access at all.  ;D
Please PM me the details and I'll get to work when I get the info.

Although, if I make her a Sorceress, then she could be a Magical Girl...  :D :D :D
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Jefepato

One thing I forgot: a hengeyokai's automatic languages are Common and Hengeyokai.  Bonus languages listed are Giant, Goblin, Nezumi, and Spirit Tongue.  (Since the latter two are unlikely to be relevant in Sigil, one might ask our esteemed DM if anything else is fitting.)

I'm working on typing up ye olde spellthief now.

MadPanda

OK!
Any further information you could supply re: hengeyokai would be nice.  Alas, I have only the three ver 3.0 core books to work with.  (and thus wu jen are a mystery to me, barely remembered from the old Oriental Adventures first ed books, which I never owned...)
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Jefepato

Hengeyokai are intelligent, shapechanging animals.  Most of them are chaotic, with a strong independent streak, and they rarely fit into human communities.  They're commonly adventurers, and often display personality traits similar to their animal type.

There's more flavor text than that, but that's the gist of it.

(Don't worry about the wu jen, by the way.  You couldn't really play one without full access to Complete Arcane, since they have so many spells only found there.  If you're not multiclassing, your favored class is a nonissue.)

MadPanda

Coolness.  Thanks for the help.
(Ms. GM?  Can you give this fine fellow a few extra XP for general helpfulness?  ;D  He deserves 'em.)
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Rayve13

Just so you know, I'm pretty sure I'm going with something relatively plain, at least for Sigil. A simple tiefling lad, all red in the skin with little horns and a scattering of black scales...maybe a tail, not sure yet. How are we on character classes so far?

schnookums

Well, all my levels are in race right now myself....I do have a fair amount of skill points though.

Jefepato

#55
Quote from: Rayve13 on April 20, 2007, 06:45:54 PM
How are we on character classes so far?

1st-level cleric (heavily-modified doppelganger) with Practiced Spellcaster.

Creeper

3rd level Halfling totemist (Tank)
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Jeramiahh

I'm all Fey HD and LA until 7th, but I've skills to put all but a rogue to shame. Especially with no combat prowess to speak of... guess it's appropriate to start taking bard levels after that, hmm?
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Ixy

Well, it's going to become obvious soon enough... I'm playing a half-dragon, half-human barbarian.  She's a natural redhead and acts like it.  *grin*
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kongming

And the game is up.

Er, I mean, the opening thread has been posted, along with the "Put your character sheet here" thread. Not "Aha! The game is up! I've figured out your scheme!"

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MadPanda

Woot!
Character sheet will follow.
Again, many kudos to Jefepato for his invaluable assistance.
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Well, I was thinking bard, but maybe something more sorcerer-like would fit better, and still make charisma worthwhile (I like the idea of him as a honey-tongued devil). That or a fighter specializing in something exotic, or a monk if I can avoid the whole lawful requirement ;)

kongming

I watch Hong Kong Action Theatre. There's no way monks have to be Lawful.
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Then that's a distinct possibility, just to throw in a unique sort of fighter. Though I'm looking over the Complete Warrior right now, and a Hexblade might just be the ticket. Spellcasting, sneakiness, and a good run of weapons makes them unique compared to the more straight ahead fighter we're currently looking at. And, with the right cross class skills, backstabbing becomes an option (unless I'm totally forgetting how things work now).

MadPanda

Quote from: kongming on April 21, 2007, 11:59:49 AM
I watch Hong Kong Action Theatre. There's no way monks have to be Lawful.

PROPER monks are lawful.  Rogue monks can probably be whatever the thousand hells they like  ;D

This is actually a good point.  There's that Atlantis/Bronze Age setting published by Avalanche Press, in which the cat-people (Bastati or something like that) favor the class Monk.  Yet CATS are not by nature particularly Lawful little critters.  At the very least, mine certainly aren't (except maybe about feeding time).
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The only time I've dealt with it is in running a game of X-Crawl. For that, I allowed monks of any non-chaotic alignment, since they need to have discipline to deal with monk training, but individual martial arts schools (X-Crawl is a semi-modern setting, so monks represent dojos or academies as often as they do real monk temples) can be any range of good, evil, or neutral, and some are less strict in their discipline, teaching amrtial arts as a fighting style rather than a life style.

But I'm leaning at hexblade right now anyway, since it fits better for a devil-blooded tiefling like myself.

Jefepato

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Quote from: Rayve13 on April 21, 2007, 12:02:57 PMAnd, with the right cross class skills, backstabbing becomes an option (unless I'm totally forgetting how things work now).

Well, you can't gain the sneak-attack ability just by taking the right skills, if that's what you mean.

If all you want is to be able to backstab your friends in a more generic sense (in which case you probably shouldn't be telling us about it), the hexblade should have the right skills.

By the way, kongming, is the Prowess skill supposed to be in use?  I thought the rules were supposed to get left at the bedroom door, and frankly, I need those skill points.

(And given that we're playing D&D, why NCEF and not NCES?)

Rayve13

I'm thinking Attacks of Opportunity, not necessarily the damage multiplies that rogues get. But even just sneaking and stabbing will be fine.

As for my intentions toward my "friends" if you so choose to call yourselves, I would never do anything to directly cause you intentional, severe harm. Unless there was money involved. Or better sex. Or peanut butter M&M's, but who wouldn't slit their loved ones throats for those?

Jefepato

Quote from: Rayve13 on April 21, 2007, 01:44:24 PMOr peanut butter M&M's, but who wouldn't slit their loved ones throats for those?

Well, of course.  When peanut butter M&Ms are involved, not even the primal cosmic forces that are "good" in D&D would object.

Rayve13

Just for a short term, while I get the details worked out, here's the basics:

Name: Vormulak Adder-Tongue (Vorm for short)
Race Tiefling
Class: Hexblade

Concept: Shathrus is, in many ways, a silver tongued devil. While not nearly as manipulative as his bloodline would imply, he has trouble trusting people on more than a surface level. He is quick to make friends and make love, but slow to really trust or be trustworthy. He's mainly at school to have fun, in whatever ways present themselves. He hasn't even declared a major yet, instead taking whatever classes seem most interesting or have the most attractive...beings in them.

Anything else, including perversions needing fulfillment, can be gleaned simply by asking.

MadPanda

Name: Ryoko
Sex: Female
Race: Weasel Hengeyokai
Class: Spellthief

Description: Pretty brown haired, brown eyed freckle-faced lass with a penchant for tight, brightly colored cheongsams (when off-duty) and dark brown-black catsuits (when on duty).  She's basically easy-going and friendly if mischievous and a touch ditzy.  She considers her ability to 'borrow' spells a wonderful joke on the pompous and conceited wizardly types...

Interests: available upon request.
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Quick question: Would a masterwork weapon made of Baatorean green steel (nonmagical +1 to hit and damage) count against my magic item budget?

Rin

Ooo. Is there still room for one more?
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kongming

Ok... answers...

Baatorian Steel: Yeah, I'd call that the equivalent to magic.
Hexblade: Sounds fine to me. Feel free to use "lesser" hexes on people. You know, they don't use your daily limit, and instead of giving someone a penalty, you make something happen to them out of combat like a short-term sex change, or they fall out of the locker room naked or whatever.
Prowess: You can put ranks in it for free. GUCK feats still take actual feats, seeing as some of them have actual combat uses.
More on Rules: When combat occurs, I'll probably use the rules to a degree still. At the very least, I'll get you guys to say what you do, then I'll do some rolls myself, add bonuses for sounding cool, and make it turn out in a semi-cinematic style that still was influenced by the stats, rolls and mechanics.
Rin: Sure, jump right on in.
What section: I think I put it in Heavy (some people have expressed interest in the possibility of violent rape) Exotic (it's D&D) Systems (D&D)? Did I make a mistake there?
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So long as folks who are interested in the violent stuff don't visit it upon those of us who aren't, it's cool  ;D

Yet I suspect we are in Freeform, not System.
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Quote from: kongming on April 21, 2007, 10:36:52 PMWhat section: I think I put it in Heavy (some people have expressed interest in the possibility of violent rape) Exotic (it's D&D) Systems (D&D)? Did I make a mistake there?

If there's going to be hardcore rape, you didn't make a mistake.  If there is, or you don't care, you did.

kongming

Oh, for the most part, those interested in the violent stuff wish to be the receivers. Don't worry, everyone will respect each other's wishes. This is a nice, friendly site where we all get along and don't act like jerks!

And yeah, my mistake. Serves me right for setting it up when exhausted.
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