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Started by Galactic Druid, August 22, 2012, 04:21:16 AM

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Galactic Druid

So I was in the middle of a post when suddenly, I got a blue screen. I haven't seen one of those since I started using 7. Anyway, within seconds of bluescreening, it turned off. I turned it back on, and it started through the usual process; Asus logo startup screen telling me I can hit del to go into bios, etc, then someone new.

It told me to please insert a proper boot disc, or something to that effect, I don't remember exactly. I turned my PC off and tried again. Asus screen, black screen. Nothing. Not even the message about using a proper boot disc.

What just happened? Is it a virus? I just started using a new antivirus...
It was running a little noisy compared to normal recently, did something break?
There's no way I can be stuck posting on my phone, I've got to be ale to do something about this...
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Oreo

I had that happen to my HP a few weeks ago. It wouldn't boot up with anything in any of the bootable areas. I had to remove my external HD, my flash drive and the movie DVD from my videotray before starting the pc. It does the same thing any time I have something plugged in. :P I don't know if the fix is that simple or if something broke for you. It might be worth a try. : /

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Galactic Druid

Quote from: Oreo on August 22, 2012, 04:25:21 AM
I had that happen to my HP a few weeks ago. It wouldn't boot up with anything in any of the bootable areas. I had to remove my external HD, my flash drive and the movie DVD from my videotray before starting the pc. It does the same thing any time I have something plugged in. :P I don't know if the fix is that simple or if something broke for you. It might be worth a try. : /

New problem after that. Asus screen, black screen a moment, then the usual Windows loading screen, only it stopped halfway through, turning black, with white letters that just say "Error loading Operating System".
Does this sound like a virus or a HDD error to you guys? I'm slightly more fucked with one than the other, I don't have a backup of anything on my HDD.
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AngelicFaith

Ok, first: If you have your windows 7 disc, try starting it up using that.
Second: this looks to be a HDD error, seeing that it had an error loading your operating system.
If starting it up with the original windows 7 disc doesn´t work, then I am afraid your HDD might be broken or Windows stopped working.
What you can also try is starting Windows in safe modus, spam the f8 button after you turned on your pc.
When you start it using the windows disc? first try to see if it starts with that, if not, try the repair function that is on the cd, you can choose repair when starting up with the windows 7 disc.

Keep me up to date,

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Galactic Druid

Quote from: AngelicFaith on August 22, 2012, 05:10:00 AM
Ok, first: If you have your windows 7 disc, try starting it up using that.
Second: this looks to be a HDD error, seeing that it had an error loading your operating system.
If starting it up with the original windows 7 disc doesn´t work, then I am afraid your HDD might be broken or Windows stopped working.
What you can also try is starting Windows in safe modus, spam the f8 button after you turned on your pc.
When you start it using the windows disc? first try to see if it starts with that, if not, try the repair function that is on the cd, you can choose repair when starting up with the windows 7 disc.

Keep me up to date,

Ron

Well.... crap. Going through my media discs, it looks like the 7 one is missing. I found the original recovery disc which will put it back to Vista, but the windows 7 upgrade disc is AWOL. I'll see if I can hunt it down, but if it's not in the two places I know to look, it's gone for good.

In the meantime, I'll try safe mode while I search.
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Galactic Druid

Safe mode resulted in the same 'error loading os' message. Now I'm not even getting the courtesy of a loading screen before it happens.

What is wrong with me?  I have all the original media for everything in this bundle. Mice I don't even own anymore, 3 different video cards of drivers, several plug and play devices I never even installed, but no windows 7 disc. I may need to reformat to vista, if that will even work.

Okay, let's say it's a worst case scenario and this is an HDD crash. would I be able to save anything if I don't try reformatting? I'm just wondering if I have anything to lose at this point...
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AngelicFaith

#7
well, all i can think of now is that you need the windows 7 disc... You can try borrowing it from someone else.
once you have the disc, use the repair option on it. It seems that windows somehow became corrupted.
If the repair doesn´t help, go to the store where you got the pc from, and ask them to backup your files, because then you will need to do a complete refreshment on your pc A.K.A reinstalling windows.
OR, you can try make a boot USB stick with Ubuntu 10.10 and you can backup your files through that.

I have both windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.0 on my laptop for if my windows stops liking me.

*Edited*

Ubuntu 10.10 is no longer supported, you´ll need to download the latest instead.
link: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
you can choose between 32 and 64 bit, if you got 4GB or more RAM, choose 64 bit.

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gaggedLouise

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 05:25:50 AM
Safe mode resulted in the same 'error loading os' message. Now I'm not even getting the courtesy of a loading screen before it happens.

What is wrong with me?  I have all the original media for everything in this bundle. Mice I don't even own anymore, 3 different video cards of drivers, several plug and play devices I never even installed, but no windows 7 disc. I may need to reformat to vista, if that will even work.

Okay, let's say it's a worst case scenario and this is an HDD crash. would I be able to save anything if I don't try reformatting? I'm just wondering if I have anything to lose at this point...


Wow, that sounds bad. If you opt for leaving it in for service (as sounds likely), have them try to ghost or backup the hard drive to a new one, and do it as soon as possible. That might well work even if you can't get the HD to start at this point. It's quite possible to copy or ghost a HD even though the connecting gates to the motherboard are dead, or even if the drive has suffered some damage. You don't want to lose all that was stored on the machine.

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Galactic Druid

So bottom lining it, don't try reformatting it, right?
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AngelicFaith

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 05:55:27 AM
So bottom lining it, don't try reformatting it, right?

Yes, don't reformat it right away.

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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 05:55:27 AM
So bottom lining it, don't try reformatting it, right?

Exactly, better leave it in with some tech guys you trust - or do it with somebody else's Win7 disc. Preferably an OEM one, or it might run into trouble if the machine is a different brand, has a different processor and so on.

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Galactic Druid

What is OEM? I may need to take it to the geek squad...
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Oreo

From experience beware the Geek Squad. Their first response is to wipe out everything on the HD. Plus they took 5 weeks to replace my motherboard. :P If it is still under warranty, maybe, but if possible look for a repair shop. They are generally cheaper and try to save your stuff.

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gaggedLouise

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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 06:30:52 AM
What is OEM? I may need to take it to the geek squad...

A copy of Windows (or any software) that's been bought separately, not bundled with hardware (the latter is a retail copy). So it's a "clean" copy, without any presets, tweaks or system add-ons to match it to what's hardwired into the machine. Lots of machines are sold with Windows preinstalled and then the install may have modifications to optimize it with that particular machine line. It won't be anything you notice from the outside as a user, if you would compare how the system shows up in two different Windows 7 machines, but the mods are there and sometimes (not saying always) they will create errors and stop the install if one tries to load Windows from the install disc on another machine with different hardware.

Happened to me when my old pc broke down this summer. After it had been rebuilt, it turned out I needed a new copy of Windows XP. I'd bought it without any OS and installed the system twice before from mum's XP SP1 cd which she had gotten with a different machine, it had worked fine at those times, but now it stalled and I had to get a new XP SP3 OEM cd. Fortunately I could get that at a good price, and a legal copy, from the repair man.

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Sarah Morgan

First off, I'm not tech savvy when it comes to computers, so I probably can't help with fixing whatever the problem is, unfortunately, but I wanted to drop in and wish you luck on being able to fix it without a reformat.  Keep us posted on how it goes, and I sympathize with having no fun writing with your phone!  A friend of mine lets me use their iPhone sometimes, and I'm definitely faster in typing on the computer than I am with that!

Last time I had to have the computer looked at in the shop, it literally took the guy like three months to get it back to me.  Most of them are quicker than that though, and if I remember right I think the guy was the only one working on the computers he got, with no one to help him and doing it from his house, so that was kind of a special case.

gaggedLouise

#16
Louise agrees with Oreo that some (knowledgeable) geeks tend to just go for clearing everything in order to troubleshoot, and taking an inordinate amount of time to do something one didn't ask them to do. Repair shops are better, or the place where you bought the can if they do their own servicing (ask them about this, some of them will ship it on to another support firm and then you're left sitting).

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SaturnCeleste

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 06:30:52 AM
What is OEM? I may need to take it to the geek squad...
Original Equipment Manufacturer.  When it went to the blue screen, did you happen to get any of that written down?  Also, is your computer making a noise when it's on?  Do you know what size your power supply is, and can we  have a little info about your computer please.
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Adammair

Ok, first, DO NOT reformat before trying any of the mentioned ideas. That being said, Try to get your hands on a Windows 7 disc (any version should do. I have a Win 7 Pro disc, that I could loan you, just PM me your info, if you can't find a copy nearby) and use the repair function after booting from it.

Also, look into the Ubuntu Linux option, as well. You may have to use a friend's computer with a DVD burner, to make a copy of the disc image onto a writable CD/DVD, but Ubuntu is totally free, and it's the hot new thing in Linux. It's supposed to be very user-friendly. It has a slightly different interface from Windows, but it should get you through.

Here's hoping you can get your issue solved as soon as possible, with as little loss of data as possible, as well. *crosses his fingers, prays, chants, does a rain dance, etc.*

Afterwards, MAKE A BACKUP of everything on your computer, as well, and store it in a safe place, in case something should go wrong, again, Heaven forbid. I can't stress the backup enough. BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP!

Galactic Druid

I think I've tried everything I can tonight. I need some sleep. Thanks to e trying who offered help and advice. I PMed you, Adam.

I've been putting off gettin an external HD for far too long. The moment this is behind me, that's my first investment.
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SaturnCeleste

Good luck and if you game and if you hear noises when you start your computer you might want to check into a power supply, they go out often, believe me.  Anymore with today's games and usage I recommend at least a 650 or higher--again depending on if you play PC games.
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mayovagn

This does sound like a HDD issue.

Yes, don't for gawds sake take it to the geek squad.

If you can first thing I would do is buy a replacement hard drive, as its likely yours is actually dying.

Course, I may know what I am doing...

If you do this, and you can source a copy of win7 (you could pm me about that...), depending on your asus (laptop presumably asus don't make a lot of desktops) you can turn the lappy over and find the hard drive panel, (a lot of netbooks don't have this) and take out the old drive, slide in the new one replacing any hard drive furniture from the old to the new.

The use the win7 disk to install the operating system on the new disk. All your old data of course is not still on the old hard drive, so you will need an external hard drive solution to take care of that should you decide to go this route.

A copy of hirens boot disk is highly recomended to ensure you don't have ram or other issues.

I think you mentioned it could be running hot, grab some canned air and hose out your vents and fans carefully.


*Hugs*



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Sarena

Hon, I have my Windows 7 disc, full install OEM, not an upgrade disc.  See the PM I sent you for more details.  *hugs*
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Galactic Druid

Quote from: SaturnCeleste on August 22, 2012, 08:05:29 AM
Good luck and if you game and if you hear noises when you start your computer you might want to check into a power supply, they go out often, believe me.  Anymore with today's games and usage I recommend at least a 650 or higher--again depending on if you play PC games.

I'm pretty sure it's not the PSU. It's very new (650 for the record), and everything else seems to be booting fine.
Quote from: mayovagn on August 22, 2012, 09:00:32 AM
This does sound like a HDD issue.

Yes, don't for gawds sake take it to the geek squad.

If you can first thing I would do is buy a replacement hard drive, as its likely yours is actually dying.

Course, I may know what I am doing...

If you do this, and you can source a copy of win7 (you could pm me about that...), depending on your asus (laptop presumably asus don't make a lot of desktops) you can turn the lappy over and find the hard drive panel, (a lot of netbooks don't have this) and take out the old drive, slide in the new one replacing any hard drive furniture from the old to the new.

The use the win7 disk to install the operating system on the new disk. All your old data of course is not still on the old hard drive, so you will need an external hard drive solution to take care of that should you decide to go this route.

A copy of hirens boot disk is highly recomended to ensure you don't have ram or other issues.

I think you mentioned it could be running hot, grab some canned air and hose out your vents and fans carefully.


*Hugs*



M.

Desktop actually. And here's the weird part. I got the PC just as 7 was coming out. I had to fill out a mail in for to get 7. The reformat disc will bring me back to vista, and the 7 upgrade isn't an official windows product, it's an Asus disc that does an upgrade to 7 from the installed vista only. The product key is the windows certification sticker on the side of my tower.

Heat isn't an issue for me, I'm happy to say.

If I get a new HDD and install windows on it, do you think the keycode on the sticker on my PC will work?
Quote from: Sarena on August 22, 2012, 09:47:52 AM
Hon, I have my Windows 7 disc, full install OEM, not an upgrade disc.  See the PM I sent you for more details.  *hugs*

I love you.
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gaggedLouise

#24
Quote from: ThatRPGuyIf I get a new HDD and install windows on it, do you think the keycode on the sticker on my PC will work?


It should; the product key isn't one-on-one linked to a given machine or a given hard drive. It worked for me a few years ago when the HD had stopped responding to the motherboard and I had to reinstall: after getting a new drive in I used the old recovery cd (which was originally a retail copy from my mother's pc, bought a year before I acquired this one) and rebooted XP from that one. Both in the original install and in that reload, the disc came from a different machine of a different brand. It should be the same in Windows 7, and linking the system's legitimacy to a specific hard drive (the one that's in the machine when it's bought) would have been really stupid.

Bar codes are linked to what edition of the system it is though, so if you had Win 7 Home Premium and her OEM dvd is for Win 7 Enterprise it could mean a bit of trouble. But yes, borrowing it sounds like a great solution. Hope it works out.

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Adammair

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 02:34:06 PM
If I get a new HDD and install windows on it, do you think the keycode on the sticker on my PC will work?
Quote from: gaggedLouise on August 22, 2012, 02:56:26 PM

It should; the product key isn't one-on-one linked to a given machine or a given hard drive. It worked for me a few years ago when the HD had stopped responding to the motherboard and I had to reinstall: after getting a new drive in I used the old recovery cd (which was originally a retail copy from my mother's pc, bought a year before I acquired this one) and rebooted XP from that one. Both in the original install and in that reload, the disc came from a different machine of a different brand. It should be the same in Windows 7, and linking the system's legitimacy to a specific hard drive (the one that's in the machine when it's bought) would have been really stupid.

Bar codes are linked to what edition of the system it is though, so if you had Win 7 Home Premium and her OEM dvd is for Win 7 Enterprise it could mean a bit of trouble. But yes, borrowing it sounds like a great solution. Hope it works out.

With all due respect, Louise, and no insult intended...I'm not 100% certain that this is the case with Win 7. I know you can perform a repair installation with a different disc than that which is registered to the computer it's installed on. So long as you don't register it when it asks you to, you should be fine. Anymore, Micro$oft is very much against piracy, and they do somehow check to see whether the operating system installed on the computer matches the parts in it. I believe they match mainly to the motherboard, since that is the least likely component to be replaced by your average user. When I recently installed a new motherboard in my desktop, I got a pop-up type thing, saying that Windows had detected a change in the hardware and needed to be re-registered (or possibly 're-validated', I don't remember the exact term.) and so I clicked 'Validate online'. It took only a few seconds but I haven't had a problem with it.

mayovagn

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 02:34:06 PM
I'm pretty sure it's not the PSU. It's very new (650 for the record), and everything else seems to be booting fine.
Desktop actually. And here's the weird part. I got the PC just as 7 was coming out. I had to fill out a mail in for to get 7. The reformat disc will bring me back to vista, and the 7 upgrade isn't an official windows product, it's an Asus disc that does an upgrade to 7 from the installed vista only. The product key is the windows certification sticker on the side of my tower.

Heat isn't an issue for me, I'm happy to say.

If I get a new HDD and install windows on it, do you think the keycode on the sticker on my PC will work?
I love you.

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Its generally easier to swop out a HDD on a desktop than it is on a laptop if you need to. If the drive is going wonky its likely best to swop it out now. If it isn't of course it still wouldn't hurt to have a device to back your data up to.

Of course, it helps to have a little bit of comfort with building and maintaining IT kit in this situation. *Grins*


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Galactic Druid

Hopefully they do match by the motherboard and I'm safe. Of course, I haven't tried repairing windows yet, I may just get lucky. I'm not optimistic though, those scratchy noises were bugging me.

Is running a bit choppy a sign of HDD death?
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Galactic Druid

Okay, so here's my biggest problem; I don't know for sure if the problem is the HDD or something else. If it is the HDD, I don't know if the problem is that the disc died, or I got a virus. It's possible, I just switched from norton to a free AV.

The solution I thought of; I've got an old PC sitting about. I take the HDD from that, put it in my current PC, run the recovery media on it so I basically have the vista machine that it was when I first got it. It's not ideal, but at least it'll be enough to get me online and let me know the HDD is the only problem while I wait to be able to get a 7 OEM disc.

Is this a good idea, or will I just make things worse on myself?
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Sarena

That might actually work, and if it does and you find out that you still need to get the 7 OEM disc I have, then we can meet up and I can give it to you.  (Please keep in mind that I'll need to have it back.  :P ) If you find out that the HDD is dead, then there are still those other two options that we talked about, hon.
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Adammair

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 04:03:04 PM
I'm not optimistic though, those scratchy noises were bugging me.

Is running a bit choppy a sign of HDD death?

Scratchy noises has me thinking it's hard disk related, as that may have been the read/write heads scratching the surface of the platters that your information gets stored on. I believe running choppy can indicate that your HDD is having trouble.

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 06:07:52 PM
The solution I thought of; I've got an old PC sitting about. I take the HDD from that, put it in my current PC, run the recovery media on it so I basically have the vista machine that it was when I first got it. It's not ideal, but at least it'll be enough to get me online and let me know the HDD is the only problem while I wait to be able to get a 7 OEM disc.

Is this a good idea, or will I just make things worse on myself?

Can you give us any more information about the two drives? ie, size/capacity, whether the old one has been wiped of data first, how old the old computer is, how old the new computer is, etc. My gut tells me that you shouldn't have a problem, if you are confident enough to swap the HDD out of your old system into your new one, but it's not a guaranteed fix. Was the old comp running Vista and the new one is running 7, upgraded from Vista? I know I'm asking a lot, but sometimes little things matter (or maybe it's just my OCD kicking in ;D ).

Aadreal

If the HDD is dead, I'd be willing to donate to a "Help Guy get his butt back online so he can post for me" fund.  *nods*

Sarena

Adammair, I do know that the new one (which I just learned from him is 5 years old, so he's trying to avoid sinking anymore cash into it) was running Vista and had been upgraded to Windows 7.

Quote from: Aadreal on August 22, 2012, 06:43:19 PM
If the HDD is dead, I'd be willing to donate to a "Help Guy get his butt back online so he can post for me" fund.  *nods*

Heh I'd contribute to that cause.
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Adammair

Quote from: Sarena on August 22, 2012, 06:46:01 PM
Adammair, I do know that the new one (which I just learned from him is 5 years old, so he's trying to avoid sinking anymore cash into it) was running Vista and had been upgraded to Windows 7.

It's possible, then, that if the old computer is older than 5 years, it was running XP, maybe. Not that that would necessarily be a problem, except in finding updated drivers for any newer hardware that wasn't supported by XP. If he's able to get online with the old HDD, then he should be able to get the drivers. *shrugs* I'll shut up, now, because I'm sure I'm just adding a lot more questions than I need to, to solve the problem.

mayovagn

Quote from: Adammair on August 22, 2012, 06:42:12 PM
Scratchy noises has me thinking it's hard disk related, as that may have been the read/write heads scratching the surface of the platters that your information gets stored on. I believe running choppy can indicate that your HDD is having trouble.

The running choppy thing is likely either OS bloat (Not so common by 7), HDD issues or Ram going wonky.

The best way to eliminate the two hardware issues is almost certainly a good hard copy of Hirens boot disk and some advice from a friendly tech on how to use it to eliminate possibilities.

Of course to download a copy of hirens restored from the interbutts and burn said disc you do require a working computer... *Apologetic shrug* Though I could mail you one from the great white north via anonymous mailings if you fling me a PM.

Seriously, everyone should have a copy of Hirens. Its so massively bloody useful.

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Sarena

Where would one get a copy of Hirens and how much does it cost?

I ask, because ThatRPGuy and I live near enough to each other that I could get a hardcopy of it to him if I knew where/how to get my hands on it.
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mayovagn

Quote from: Sarena on August 22, 2012, 07:33:20 PM
Where would one get a copy of Hirens and how much does it cost?

I ask, because ThatRPGuy and I live near enough to each other that I could get a hardcopy of it to him if I knew where/how to get my hands on it.

Sent you a PM on this. *Grins*


M.
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Sarena

Quote from: Adammair on August 22, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
It's possible, then, that if the old computer is older than 5 years, it was running XP, maybe. Not that that would necessarily be a problem, except in finding updated drivers for any newer hardware that wasn't supported by XP. If he's able to get online with the old HDD, then he should be able to get the drivers. *shrugs* I'll shut up, now, because I'm sure I'm just adding a lot more questions than I need to, to solve the problem.

He just texted and told me that the old harddive has Vista as well. So, hopefully, he can put that harddrive in and it'll work, then maybe he can follow some of the tips on this page and recover files form the old harddrive. 
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So this is new. I thought I'd try one more time to turn on my PC before I mess with it, and this is the message that greeted me.


Can someone translate that? I'm pretty sure it means 'your disc is borked' in english, right?
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mayovagn

Your HDD is definitely bad.

SMART is error reporting built into hard drives.

If its showing bad, well, that's really not a good thing. Don't fire up that hard drive again till you are ready to try to recover data from it.

Sorry Guy, it looks like you are either going to have to transplant or buy a replacement drive.

*Hugs*


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Well, fuck me. The HDD I was going to transplant from another computer doesn't have the same connectors that the one on my current PC. I'm screwed and broke.
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
Well, fuck me. The HDD I was going to transplant from another computer doesn't have the same connectors that the one on my current PC. I'm screwed and broke.

New one is likely SATA old one is likely IDE.

Sata is a thin, usually red, cable which just slots in easily to the back of the drive.

IDE is an older style ribbon cable that has a tab to locate the top of the cable to make it easy to locate which way round it plugs in to the drive.

Your motherboard on your new computer likely has at least one IDE channel on it which you could use to connect the older drive to the new system. However it may or may not have the older four pin (molex) style power connectors on the power supply.

So you may still be able to use the old drive and cable.

Sorry, this is kinda tricky over the interbutts.


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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
Well, fuck me. The HDD I was going to transplant from another computer doesn't have the same connectors that the one on my current PC. I'm screwed and broke.

That's what I was worried about, Guy. Sorry, man. I'll help in any way I can.

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Quote from: mayovagn on August 22, 2012, 10:09:43 PM
New one is likely SATA old one is likely IDE.

Sata is a thin, usually red, cable which just slots in easily to the back of the drive.

IDE is an older style ribbon cable that has a tab to locate the top of the cable to make it easy to locate which way round it plugs in to the drive.

Your motherboard on your new computer likely has at least one IDE channel on it which you could use to connect the older drive to the new system. However it may or may not have the older four pin (molex) style power connectors on the power supply.

So you may still be able to use the old drive and cable.

Sorry, this is kinda tricky over the interbutts.


M.

Holy crap, you're right! I was able to pull that whole connector ribbon right out!!
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 10:26:12 PM
Holy crap, you're right! I was able to pull that whole connector ribbon right out!!

Duh! I used to do this for a living! *laughs*

*Dances*

Just pull the power (larger of the two red cables) on the dying drive till you are ready to try to grab the data off of it!

You can pull the data cable as well as power of course, yet you NEED to pull the power so it can't spin up till you are in a position to try to recover from it.

Other than that, carefully install your surrogate drive and see if you have a four pin molex power that will fit it and have at seeing if the thing will fire up with the other drive. Though windows will likely throw a hissy fit that hardware has changed over either drivers or not being genuine.

Still that would nevertheless put you much closer to a working computer again. *Hugs*



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Alright, it's all hooked up, I'm going to try it out!
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Finally, some good news! When I went to put my PC back in it's spot, I found the windows 7 upgrade disc!! After I run the recovery media to get my computer in order, I can still have 7!
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mayovagn

*Smiles*

Upgrading is never as good as a full install disk of course... *Grins*

Yet its still better than not having it at all.

I can heartily recommend xubuntu if you fancy making a break from microsoft products of course... *Grins*

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I tried booting it up, the computer refuses to acknowledge there's a drive there. I'm sure I plugged it in right, there's no other slots to plug in an IDE ribbon on the mobo. I can't get it to notice the drive (yes I did plug it in in terms of power too) in either the BIOS or the recovery program's detection.
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mayovagn

Check in the bios and see if its detecting the IDE drive at all and if it is look in the boot configuration.

The IDE detection is likely in the early part of the bios screens, yet without being sat in front of it its hard to say for certain.

You have both the ribbon (Data) and the four pin (Power) plugged into the drive right?
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*nods* the ribbon is plugged into the drive and the only socket on the mobo it would fit in. My PSU has like 5 free 4 pin supplies, so I picked one and plugged it in.

When i hit DEL to enter setup and look at the BIOS (I have no idea what I'm talking about), I see a bunch of SATA; no device detected messages, with one slot that is detecting my DVD drive. There's not even IDE in the listing.
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:08:22 PM
*nods* the ribbon is plugged into the drive and the only socket on the mobo it would fit in. My PSU has like 5 free 4 pin supplies, so I picked one and plugged it in.

When i hit DEL to enter setup and look at the BIOS (I have no idea what I'm talking about), I see a bunch of SATA; no device detected messages, with one slot that is detecting my DVD drive. There's not even IDE in the listing.

Yeah, sata did muddy the waters a little for legacy drives... You may be able to change the 'Sata mode' though careful with that as it can have unexpected results. Best bet is wander the menus and read things without changing them until or unless you find something that looks 'right'.
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There was one option that said I could detect SATA as tiehr IDE or A-something, I didn't change it though, as it was already set to IDE.

Now that you mention it, I saw the word Legacy in there somewhere....
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:16:59 PM
There was one option that said I could detect SATA as tiehr IDE or A-something, I didn't change it though, as it was already set to IDE.

Now that you mention it, I saw the word Legacy in there somewhere....

The option you likely need is almost certainly in there somewhere. If I had the machine in my own hot little hands I could find it fairly easily. *mutters*
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Come move to Texas! I'll poke around a bit more, but I don't want to change too much. The drive only has like 50 gigs of space, I'm either going to need to replace it or my whole damn PC.
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:16:59 PM
There was one option that said I could detect SATA as tiehr IDE or A-something,

Probably ATAPI? *gives his final suggestion before bowing to the supremacy of those who know more about such things than he does, with a sad sigh, that he couldn't help more*

mayovagn

Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:20:45 PM
Come move to Texas! I'll poke around a bit more, but I don't want to change too much. The drive only has like 50 gigs of space, I'm either going to need to replace it or my whole damn PC.

Sounds like you just need a drive and an operating system. What is the model of your motherboard?

I can possibly look up the manual for it and locate the option you need.


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Ummmmm, I'm not sure. It's a prefab PC, an ASUS to be specific. I still have all the recovery media. My current plan is to just go buy a new SATA HDD when I can afford one, plug it in the same way the broken one was, boot from the recovery media to install everything, then use the 7 upgrade disc.
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:26:42 PM
Ummmmm, I'm not sure. It's a prefab PC, an ASUS to be specific. I still have all the recovery media. My current plan is to just go buy a new SATA HDD when I can afford one, plug it in the same way the broken one was, boot from the recovery media to install everything, then use the 7 upgrade disc.

Usually with Asus motherboards the model number is stamped on the board in white lettering if that's any help. *Smiles*
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Alright, let me go pull it out again...
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:31:53 PM
Alright, let me go pull it out again...

That's what she said! (Or in old tyme brit speak 'As the actress said to the bishop)
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I see a sticker with a barcode and some numbers buring under some cables and the processor's casing. Is that what I want?
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 22, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
I see a sticker with a barcode and some numbers buring under some cables and the processor's casing. Is that what I want?

Its usually stamped in white directly onto the board rather than being on a sticker. The barcode is likely the part or serial number.

Model number if not there can possibly be found in the bios...

*May is falling asleep here, offering the baton to someone else to help Guy through the night*
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Damnit, now I have to go plug it back in?

Aww, I think i'm done for the night. With any luck, I'll have a new SATA drive tomorrow or friday and I can stop messing around with my BIOS completely.

Thanks for all your help May, even if we didn't get it running tonight, I now know what to look for, instead of going to the store and asking "I need a hard drive that doesn't plug in with the ribbon thingie, but the small thing that says P18 on it instead. hurr durr", so that's worth something right there.

Maybe I'll get an awesome HDD. Supposodly, data transfer rate was the only thing holding this PC back...
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mayovagn

Ask for a Sata desktop hard disk drive.

Make sure its at least a 7200RPM model (Most are, though you can find slower 'green' drives, faster spinning drives cost lots of money)

Buy the largest capacity you can reasonably afford.


And I am really going to go sleep.  (Honest!)
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Looking at newegg, it looks like the 10000+ RPM ones get expensive, almost expensive than a solid state drive (are those worth it?$100 for a 150 GB...) depending on size. It looks like 7200 is standard, so I'll avoid going green (that sounds terrible, lol), and get myself a decent drive. Thanks May! You're awesome.
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*laughs* I was going to suggest NewEgg. :D

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Ugh, look at the message, Phone typing is painful. It even makes my grammar suck.
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Galactic Druid

I'm afraid someone has you beat by roughly 2000 miles, Kaia. Also, like I said earlier, I did manage to find mine.

Not to mention, my current HDD is borked up the ding ding, so an OS repair isn't going to mean much right now.
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Galactic Druid

Tempting, but I think I really wanna go for a new one after all the trouble, make this thing last...
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Kaia

Ah well there is that.  Just hurry lol

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Galactic Druid

I wonder how many people have looked at my two threads here, "Do I need to keep paying for virus protection?" and "What just happened to my PC?" and suspect the two are related...
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*hugs you*  The thought had occurred to me, yes.  BUT I really don't think the two are related, hon.  Your computer was five years old, things like this happen.
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If the antivirus you switched to is the one recommended on the other thread, that's not an issue. Looks like the vagaries of electronic old age, unfortunately.
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Drives fail. It sucks. This is why we always insist on timely and comprehensive backups of all personal data. *Grins*
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Update; my friend in IT had a SATA drive to donate to my cause. It's only 160GB, so it's a temporary fix until I get a bigger one (which is, incidentally, what she said.), but at least it'll get me on E for a few weeks until I can afford a nice sexy new drive for my gaming.
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Glad to hear it Guy. *hugs*
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Yay for friends in IT. It's good to know you will be up and running on more than your phone.

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Friends in IT deserve all the favours they get in return. ;)
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Friends in IT eat very well, I'll tell you that much.

I'm Guy, May, Gav is Gav.

Okay, temporary HDD is plugged in, let's fire this baby up!!
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Oreo

* Oreo crosses fingers, toes and anything else she can think of

It's hard totpye crosseeyd.

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Well, let's slip on the dancing shoes and have a party!! Whooo-hoooo!



I am so glad things are back in working order. It feels so awkward without our PC sidekicks.


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Galactic Druid

Recovery media/windows recognizes the drive! Reinstalling all those bits and bobs my computer needs!!
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*hugs you tight and crosses fingers*
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-also crosses fingers- Hope it works!

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Anyone know if the speed difference for a SSd is worth the price difference?
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DutchSpawn

depends, I always go for 7200RPM. I only look at how much i can store on it :P

Galactic Druid

Computer is 90% fixed. Updating virus protection and installing video drivers, and it'll be back to it's old self.
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 24, 2012, 12:00:43 AM
Friends in IT eat very well, I'll tell you that much.

I'm Guy, May, Gav is Gav.

Okay, temporary HDD is plugged in, let's fire this baby up!!

I was tired and you know what I meant... *Le sigh*
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Everything is basically fixed now. Just one thing left. I went to turn it off to bring it to where it belongs, and it gives me the message "Now installing windows updates: 0 of 90" that was 4 hours ago. It's on 60 now.
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That sounds about typical for MicroSloth.  ;D  (Says the WinXP user.)
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Yay for the update. I have a spare laptop. I dread the updating the next time I use it. It has been sitting there since last November. I hope you're up and running soon. ;D

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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 25, 2012, 01:13:30 AM
Everything is basically fixed now. Just one thing left. I went to turn it off to bring it to where it belongs, and it gives me the message "Now installing windows updates: 0 of 90" that was 4 hours ago. It's on 60 now.

Yep. The dread Automatic Updates strikes again.

Quote from: Oniya on August 25, 2012, 01:16:49 AM
That sounds about typical for MicroSloth.  ;D  (Says the WinXP user.)

Very typical.

Galactic Druid

Up to 80, then come installing steam, seeing if I still have any of my saves Via cloud, and crying because I can't afford GW2.
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I wonder just how genuine that was...
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If your really worried about your system and your data there are a couple of things you can do.

Hardware Redundancy

Regardless of what form of drive you have - ATA / SCSI / SATA / SAS / SSD.

With two drives you can "Mirror" the drives, so if one drive fails the other keeps going.  (Never "Stripe" two drives unless you only want speed)
With three drives you can "Stripe" the drives - two drives contain your data - one contains a "Parity" bit - which means if one of the three drives fail, it can be rebuilt from the other two.

Mirroring requires 50% more storage then you actually get.
Stripping + Parity requires at least 1 HD more then you actually get.
More complex methods do exist - I have a dedicated NAS that uses 4 drives, and at work I maintain a couple of SANS that have 12 or 16 drives.

However - this only provides hardware redundancy - not backup capability.

Backup
For full coverage you should have the following.

A Live System / Data Set - your Computer.
An Incremental backup of your Live System / Data Set - often to a NAS.
An Offline Copy of your System - updated at fixed points in time, or before major updates.   (Sometimes this can be a rotated incremental backup)

Unless its in three "Digital Locations" its not truly safe.
The offline copy should be located somewhere other then next to your computer.

You can further increase this with Cloud Storage (Assuming you trust it..)
Dropbox lets you sync documents, as do many other services - Wuala, Google Drive, Sugarsync etc.
There are also solutions that let you backup online - I use Crashplan, which backs up my machine incrementally to both a local copy within my house, and to the cloud automatically. (I paid for the latter option)

Galactic Druid

Dear God! After several days of being on E via phone, and keeping my gaming restricted to a DS, this screen seems way too big. It's at least twice the size of a phone! XD

Seriously though, I feel like I need to readjust. Anyway, back online! Now, to my group game! RPGuy away!
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*giggles* I am just glad you are back on your computer, love!  It's been a rough few days! 
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I'm glad to be back! Though I still suspect slight sarcasm on the sympathy over my lack of Guild Wars 2...
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Oreo

I'm genuinely sorry you can't get it. I know all too well how frustrating it can be when other costs pop up and steal our fun time plans. I hope you can get it soon. Did your Steam saves remain safe in the clouds?

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Galactic Druid

That was to Sarena, she's the one I detect sarcasm from. I'm pretty sure she likes me being undistracted. =P

Only my most most recent games. Skyrim and everything before that are gone.
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Oreo

AAAccck. I hope you had finished Skyrim.

>_> Yeah, that might be sarcasm. *wanders away giggling*

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Galactic Druid

Kind of, I had a few quests I still wanted to do, but my mage was retardedly overpowered anyway, it may be more fun to start fresh.

I'm just glad my Ys Origin save is in tact. As fun as that game is, there's one boss fight I never want to do with a certain PC ever again.
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Quote from: ThatRPGuy on August 25, 2012, 06:34:23 AM
That was to Sarena, she's the one I detect sarcasm from. I'm pretty sure she likes me being undistracted. =P

Only my most most recent games. Skyrim and everything before that are gone.

Quote from: Oreo on August 25, 2012, 06:37:01 AM

>_> Yeah, that might be sarcasm. *wanders away giggling*

I am sure I have no idea what y'all are talking about. *walks away, smugly whistling*
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I never have automatic updates turned on. I nlite or vlite a copy of the windows OS I want to install with either updates ripped out or turned off.

Then never turn them on. Ever.

Security risk? Not really. I keep my security software up to date and will install pertinent security patches if it makes sense to do so. I disallow almost all scripting by default in my browsers and only white list stuff that I actually need and block almost all ads. (Major vectors of infection) I have been doing this since I switched from win2k to XP and never had any kind of infection in all that time.

I will not have microsoft taking over my computer remotely to 'update' the OS whenever they feel like it.

I will do it myself when and if I think it necessary to do so.
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Quote from: mayovagn on August 25, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
I will not have microsoft taking over my computer remotely to 'update' the OS whenever they feel like it.

I will do it myself when and if I think it necessary to do so.

Amen to that! I want to be just as brave as you, if I grow up, may. ;)

mayovagn

Quote from: Adammair on August 25, 2012, 10:48:20 AM
Amen to that! I want to be just as brave as you, if I grow up, may. ;)

I'm not sure anyone should want to grow up 'may' *Grins* May is a twisted and insane individual. *Smiles*
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Let me offer my congratulations for your return and wishes for everything to work out from here on.  I've been lurking but keeping my mouth shut.  That is such a revolutionary concept for me. ;D

Welcome back.

Adammair

Quote from: mayovagn on August 25, 2012, 10:51:38 AM
I'm not sure anyone should want to grow up 'may' *Grins* May is a twisted and insane individual. *Smiles*

That's funny, so am I. We'd get along famously. *maniacal laugh*