Looking for nerdy girls (M for F characters)

[Kilaar]

Hi, there. Hello, and thanks for having a look at my little slice of Elliquiy.  I'm still fairly new here, but I've managed to lump most of my ideas into one place at this point.  Please do have a look around, and if you think we might hit it off, send me a PM.  Though some might seem fairly elaborate and specific, my ideas are meant to be conversation starters.  You can also check out my active stories for samples of my writing and posting pace.

What I'm looking for First and foremost, I'm looking for friends.  I've been at this long enough to realize that the best stories are written with people I can connect with OOC.  That said, I have no desire to cross boundaries or really even know anything super specific about the person on the other end of the keyboard.  I am, however, looking for someone I can exchange ideas with, and that requires a certain rapport beyond the normal transaction of concocting a story with a stranger on the internet. Like anyone, I have a pretty busy life.  Stories are often my escape, so I'm looking for something that is mutually satisfying to my partner and I; a story that stays in my head in those in-between moments and preoccupies me during day-to-day monotony.  Moreover, I'm often inspired by real life:  That lingering smile exchanged while walking around town, the elephant-sized sexual tension at work, or an obnoxious and loud fan of the other team at a sporting event.  These are the kinds of random things I'd like to be able to talk about, as they often lead to incredibly fulfilling stories. More Specifically... (Flavors of the week) Long term, like-minded partners for short and/or long term stories Faceclaims:  Yuuie (1, 2) - She epitomizes the kind of gal that does it for me. My recent idea:  The Streaming Nerd:  Making Her Dreams Come True (In post below this one) Where I write I prefer long-term stories in most circumstances, but I can appreciate well-written and engaging real-time exchanges as much as any other guy.  I'm particularly interested in finding a few good IM (Discord or Google-Talk probably) partners to write with when schedules overlap. Right here! (Forum posts) Discord Google Docs Email

The Basics - Please read Communication - I'm a pretty laid back guy.  For me, the excitement in a story comes from writer synergy and realism much more so than it does any arbitrary kink. I'd rather find someone like-minded to create a story with than find a warm body who wants me to shoehorn them into my cookie cutter. Plot & Realism - Maybe not totally plot, but some plot. In other words, a story has to make sense. Yeah, I can appreciate porn as much as any guy, but if I'm going to spend the time creating something with someone, I want there to be more of an underlying point than a simple sex scene. Expect to spend time talking with me about circumstances, characters, and what we each hope to get out of a story up front. It'll make the end result that much more satisfying. Concise - Write to your heart's content, but don't ever strive for a certain length. Sometimes ten paragraphs fall out of my fingertips. Sometimes it's just one. Please don't feel like either of us needs to meet any literary minimum so long as we're moving the story along and creating something engaging. Faceclaims - Love them.  I have a list in this thread of some favorites, but you certainly don't have to limit yourself to them.  Please do understand that the ubiquitous rail-thin model face and body do not do it for me, and nothing turns me off to an idea faster than a faceclaim I do not find attractive.  If nothing else, plan to spend some time working with me here.

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[Kilaar]

Ideas
Full-on ideas, plot fragments, and stories that I've either retired or are currently in play.

Story Ideas Traditional ideas.  I'll pitch a scenario and some character basics.  Although I've thought through these a lot, I'd rather collaborate on anything.  Just about any detail in these ideas is up for debate, so feel free to reach out; even if something isn't exactly what you want.  Chances are, we can get it there, and it's infinitely more rewarding when its a tale of our mutual creation.  ;) The Streaming Nerd:  Making Her Dreams Come True Streamer gone wild, sugar daddy/baby, exhibitionism, potential swinging, and more. In ways, your character has it all.  She's resourceful, intelligent, independent and plenty capable of surviving even the crappiest of economies given her skill set.  Unfortunately, she hasn't done so well in monetizing her expertise; which is highly marketable even if she doesn't realize it.  Her prowess with technology and affinity for video games led her into a niche that she was perfectly poised to make a splash in:  Internet Streaming.  Unfortunately, that is a difficult niche to turn a livable profit in; meaning she's also stuck in a somewhat dead-end job with no real prospects for advancement while her stream is more of a hobby that generates some supplemental income.  This is her plight, and it's where I'd like for our story to kick off. Obviously, there are ways for this young woman to advance herself online.  She's not likely so naive as to be oblivious to them, and I imagine there's no shortage of commenters/followers in her streams constantly hounding her that they'd happily sponsor her on Patreon if only she'd offer up more enticing Members Only content.  Maybe she's even been approached by others in the business offering up tantalizing figures if she cares to audition.  Regardless, she has her morals, and she dare not sacrifice her identity for easy money. Enter my character.  She's likely known him since she started her streaming business; though the level of intimacy in their friendship would be shallow.  He's been a follower since early on -- a dedicated subscriber -- and has perhaps even made a few generous donations here and there.  Regardless, quite out of the blue, he approaches her with an offer of long-term sponsorship.  The details are kept to a minimum, but the dollar amount attached to the potential arrangement is enough that she could easily abandon her going-nowhere job and focus on her stream.  The first step?  Accept his preliminary offer, sign a mutually-applying Non-Disclosure Agreement, and receive a plane ticket to meet with him. ((I envision this one being more a sugar daddy/baby story than anything; with him expecting, at the onset, a couple weekends of companionship from her each month.  Over time, I'd like to see it evolve.  While we might corral them into a proper romance, with her more or less filling the girlfriend experience role for him at the onset only to fall for him later, I'm much more fond of a D/s relationship evolving from their mutual realization that they're each craving a similar and decidedly old fashioned relationship dynamic.  From there, romance, affection, and mutual attraction would serve as a backbone for structured pet play and all manner of ritual that might feed into your kinks list.  I'm thinking exaggerated gender roles (He is the breadwinner and controls major decisions while she gets to focus on other aspects of her/their lives), an eventual collar, and slave play that could span everything from simple rituals like bathing and sexplay to more enticing extremes like exhibitionism, sharing (MFM), and even humiliation. Put another way, I envision that he would eventually take her on as a dependent.  In her downtime, she would be his companion and most prized possession; while the time when he's away would afford her ample opportunities to focus on and build her online brand and business.  I have a strong preference for this young lady [1, 2, 3]  as a faceclaim, but we can figure that out together.)) Breaking Out of Her Shell Office hijinx with our very own slider to adjust the sleaze factor; From romance to blackmail. You're not sure how you got here.  After all, the guys from work are nothing new.  Most of you have been close for at least a couple years now, and you've been there longer than most of your small but tight knit group.  It took a couple months for you to fall into the groove -- to fall in with the boys -- but in the time since, you've learned a lot about them as well as yourself.  Weekly happy hours are a thing, and many of you hang out on weekends.  Your introverted ways didn't magically vanish, but you're much more comfortable in a group than you used to be, and you've learned that a number of guys in your relatively small team are into you. It's not uncommon, in the midst of these alcohol-fueled evenings, for the flirting to get a little bit much.  Perhaps, on the down low, you've even reciprocated to an inappropriate extent.  A drunken makeout session with one of your favorites could be distant in the rear view, but both of you still know it happened.  Maybe you even look back on it fondly, but he was in a committed relationship and the two of you agreed that it was a mistake; if a fun one. Which makes tonight even more perplexing.  The plan to come back to this guy's house for a few post-game drinks was not your own, but you pride yourself in that you're able to keep up with the both of them.  While so many in your group tend to take on more than they can handle, you were only just starting to hit your stride when the heavier hitters started calling it a night.  That brought the three of you -- yourself, your crush, and a close friend at work -- here.  Riding high on your buzz, you're feeling the music like you were at the bar; which's how you ended up on the coffee table to the beat of your favorite and most dance-able song. More importantly, you're loving the two sets of eyes on you.  Neither has ever been overly bashful about expressing their interest, but tonight you have a captive audience.  With neither man inhibited enough to pretend he doesn't enjoy watching you, you know good and well that this could go any way you like.  Moreover, you know for a fact that both can keep a secret.  The night is yours, and any variety of your wildest fantasies are tangible.  How will you proceed? ((Obviously, I'm leaning towards a threesome with the above, but its flexible.  This story is driven by our characters and their backstory, so we can take as much time as you'd like in picking that out.  From there, I envision something along the lines of MMF; with the emphasis being on your character and no actual M-M interaction of a sexual nature.  We could keep it as simple as one watching and the other participating; or both eagerly sharing her in a wild night that makes everyone's personal hall of fame.)) Taken/Ideas in Play Hot for Teacher Student Ageplay, illicit affairs, and steamy teacher-student goodness I'm looking for a fresh take on that ubiquitous adult roleplaying trope:  Student and teacher.  That said, we're looking at an age gap, a clandestine affair, and potentially some adultery at a bare minimum.  Bear in mind that, while I'm looking for an age gap, I'm content to pair a male 17+ with a female around 10 years his senior -- still plenty young in her late twenties or early thirties.  This puts us in an upper level high school or college environment.  Put another way:  This isn't your boilerplate inept and inexperienced boy is borderline sexually assaulted by his bombshell teacher tale. There's room in this for both characters to be youthful, and if anything I envision that common trait might make for a helpful plot mechanism to help bring them together.  While your character could be somewhat jaded and perhaps struggling with her personal life, mine has never been reluctant to share a well-meaning complement or borderline flirtatious remark.  Over time, that could evolve to more of a bond that transcends the classroom boundaries.  Before they know it, they have a full-blown romance on their hands, and in the background there's the constant risk of being discovered given the illicit nature of their connection. I've mused a little bit on a potential female counterpart for this story, but it's important that the character be your own.  As a gauge, I'm looking to take this otherwise responsible adult and watch her revert almost into the mindset of a teenager.  Clingy text-message sessions sprawling late into the night, mushy love notes on the down low, and -- of course -- raunchy fun in the backseat of a car are all fair game, and I think they're infinitely more exhilarating when one party is risking everything in her life while the other is having the time of his own.  Long term, this could easily become a full-fledged romance, with the couple making headlines in confessing their love publicly; or the whole thing could get dark and messy. The sky's the limit.  PM me if you're interested.  Jyn Erso's Bad End Star Wars, Bad Ends, D/s Staying true to the film, Jyn and Cassian successfully broadcast the stolen Death Star plans to the rebel fleet supporting them from outside Scarif's orbit.  Unlike the film, however, the pair didn't perish along with all their other comrades.  Rather than dying to the empire's decision to exercise a nuclear option on the compromised facility, they are captured.  Ideally, this is where our story would start. (SFW) Animated Felicity Jones goodness Jyn Erso awakens to a terrible ringing in her head while the sleek ship hull around her jostles with the turbulence of an atmospheric entry.  This shuffle quickly reveals to her that her wrists are bound overhead, latched together and bound securely to a beam on the unforgiving steel wall behind her.  It's impossible to know how long she's been unconscious, but her arms and wrists are suddenly throbbing as gravity's pull begins emphasizing her weight once again.  Then she spots movement and grows still. Two male figures are situated across from her.  One, his back turned to her, addressing the other:  Tall, broad-shouldered, and short-haired, he's crouched over the other; who is crumpled and bound to the wall in much the same way as she.  Given a few moments for the haze to clear, it becomes obvious that this second figure is, in fact, Cassian. "What are you doing?"  Jyn asks with a surprising air of stoic calm. Not startled in the least, the figure with his back to her only goes on about his business.  Moments later, he stands and turns, setting a piercing grey-eyed stare upon her.  The guy's not dressed as an Imperial; maybe by design?  Some clandestine agent of the empire brought in to clean up after the huge shitstorm the Rebelion unleashed?  Or maybe a bounty hunter?  He has the chiseled jaw and hardened, leather-skinned features of someone who has seen plenty of time in the field.  Despite the obvious wear, he's not a day over 40.  His smile is surprisingly cordial, and his tone is matter-of-fact.  "I'm dropping your friend off." Jyn, still visibly dazed, struggles with an increasingly high pitched ringing in her ears.  She was wounded when ferried away from Scarif, and no one has tended to those wounds in the days since.  A lack of food or water -- save from that provided by a small IV -- has her operating in an obvious lull, but after a few seconds, she goes on.  "What about me?" The man's features harden, but for the brifest faltering moment there's a tiny crack in his otherwise steeled resolve.  "You're going somewhere else," he states, and then he turns to give a couple finger presses to a touch panel on the wall.  It's not obvious what he's done until, as he turns around again, grogginess returns in full force.  A small IV, tucked into the young rebel's wrist, pumps another dose of heavy sedative into her veins.  She stirs and murmurs, but sleep takes her over. So the idea here is pretty straightforward.  While Cassian is on his way to be tortured and interrogated, Jyn is about to be delivered into a different fate.  There are two options: Bad End - This is very straightforward.  Given the personal nature of Galen Erso and his daughter's betrayal, Emperor Palpatine and his agents want nothing more than to delight in the knowledge that this proud and capable young woman is reduced to absolutely nothing.  She'll be ferried around by this bounty hunter as a perpetual servant (and payment for his taxi services), and from time to time he'll drop her off for punishments.  I like the idea that she might develop a sort of subservient relationship with him.  Her life outside his ship will suck, but their time together might actually be kind of nice; provided she behaves. Said punishments are not overtly violent; but rather meant to inflict as much psychological torment as possible.  Things like: Being delivered to a room full of former Rebellion-held prisoners full of anger towards the rebellion. Dressed up and thrown into the middle of a lavish, drug-fueled dinner party for the Empire's elite; touted as the whore of the rebellion. Provided to the highest performing Empire commandos as a reward for exceptionally decisive blows against the rebellion. Regularly bred and taunted with the inevitable fact that her offspring will be trained as Empire agents. Slightly Better End - Jyn is talented and capable, and the emperor sees her defiance as a challenge he'll happily accept.  Discreetly, she is delivered to a clandestine agent of the empire, an expert at breaking defiant prisoners and turning them to a favorable outlook.  Much more obvious D/s relationship here; with the end result more a Stockholm Syndrome that sees Jyn become one of the Empire's deadliest operatives. The Office Romance, sexual tension, potential cheating and all kinds of exploration I’m sure I’m not the only person who’s a fan of the show. It’s highly quotable and full of incredibly lovable characters, but I must offer this disclaimer:  I’m not looking to portray characters from the show. Rather, I can’t help thinking that a few of its relationships channel something tangible that I’d love to inject into an original story with characters all our own. I’m looking for something equal parts romance and sexually charged fun; something akin to Jim and Pam’s relentless tension with occasional indulgences into something a little more like to Michael and Jan’s basic chemistry. Whether the relationship is doomed from the getgo or destined for an idyllic slice of life is purely up to you and I. What’s important to me is that we come up with a couple characters who feel real; who are trapped in their own lives (not to mention monotonous and complimentary jobs) and lonely despite their relationship status. Put another way, I’m definitely looking for a connection with some drama to keep things interesting. Potential nuances of adultery, toxic elements, and character flaws are not only welcome — they’re all but requisite. Bonus points if you’re game for portraying a gal with lots of curves. Infinite bonus points if you’re game for running with one of my facecalims. (Especially Natalie). Interested?  PM me!  Her Wild Side Casual sex, prostitution, pushing boundaries The idea here is very straightforward:   Your character has listed herself on a dating app.  Think of it like Tinder; but perhaps with the twist that it's explicitly for hookups rather than something flooded with people hoping for love and long term relationships.  I'm most fond of an additional twist, that the app is geared towards matching attractive younger (18-30) women with potential sugar daddies, but the term sugar daddy often implies a large age gap.  Rather, I'd just as soon avoid age gaps and all the tropes that come along with them.  Our characters likely come from very different worlds given that they meet on an app like this, but there's no reason to limit ourselves to any specific dynamic. Instead, let's focus on your character.  While mine is likely a decent-looking well-to-do professional who's disillusioned with the dating market, yours can be virtually anything you'd like.  Here are a few potential concepts: The ubiquitous broke girl - Maybe she's in college, or maybe the degree just didn't get her as far as she was hoping.  Regardless, similar frustrations in regards to the dating market mixed with the difficulty of surviving alone seems realistic enough as a motivator to lead an intelligent and perhaps repressed woman to such an app. The betrayed spouse - Her husband had an affair almost two years ago, and the couple has been slogging through a hellish reconciliation ever since.  Perhaps her husband has been the model of sincerity through the course of their attempted recovery up until this point.  Despite it, she finds herself still holding onto anger and a fear of regret.  More recently, this repressed wife has come to realize that what she's really afraid of isn't so much ending up with a man who hurt her as it is depriving herself the opportunity for something exciting. Having only ever been with her husband, she doesn't even know if the grass on the other side is really greener, but she deserves to find out, right?  The husband need not be a part of this, but he could be.  Lots of potential drama in this one. The coworker - Perhaps my character stumbles onto a familiar face; and she just happens to be someone he's secretly crushed on at work for months.  While he'd have never approached her directly -- she has a boyfriend, after all -- he can't resist the urge to swipe right this time.  How might she react to the familiar face?  Why's she on the site to begin with? As you can imagine, these aren't the only roles that work with this story.  What appeals to me is the transactional (and somewhat impersonal) nature of the hookup as a staging point for something more.  Long term, I could see this sort of story moving into a loving long term relationship; or perhaps even a fun little experiment in pet or D/s play.  I'd rather not think too far ahead on those details until I'm talking with someone though, so reach out if you're interested. Christmas Party Office hijinx, Pet play, Adultery He's the quiet, reserved technology manager who helps keep the suits out of trouble, and she's the soft-spoken, bubbly and sweet human resources representative he secretly crushes on.  They're both aware of one another, but there's no chance in Hell they'll ever end up together; until the company Christmas party.  It was totally a fluke that he drank enough to have the balls to flirt with her; even moreso that she, in a similar state of intoxication, found herself reciprocating with lingering smiles, wandering eyes, and playful touches.  But when he grabbed her ass?  She should've slapped him. Instead, her heart skipped a beat.  What starts as a booze-fueled twist of fate quickly escalates into something sprawling and complicated, with our emboldened gentleman finding his heavy-handed tactics are met with broad acceptance from his H.R. conquest.  In most cases, a quickie in the break room should end up as a one night stand.  In this instance, my character decides to press.  Encouraged by his success and only too happy to see how far he can go, he embarks on an adventure with his newfound mistress, methodically stripping away her good girl reputation and replacing it with something lewd but considerably more honest and real. I see pet play working very well here, with the female coworker accepting assertive direction and dominance eagerly given that she's married to a pushover.  In terms of specific kinks, I'd love to explore things like drug/alcohol use, prostitution, exhibitionism and more; all while savoring the drama that comes along with a workplace romance and two-sided adultery. Branching Out Threesome (MFM), Smutty, Possible Breeding I'm looking for someone interested in a fairly smut driven story. That's not to say there's no backbone or reason behind the writing; simply that I'd like for us to focus our development in the realm of all kinds of kinkiness and fun. I'm looking for a realistic female character with a desire to explore emotional connections contrasted against basic, primitive desires.  Speicifcally, I'm looking for my character to share his wife. Let's start with a happily married couple. They've had their ups and downs. They have a solid foundation and truly love one another. Otherwise, maybe they would've moved on by now. Maybe they're even thinking about it. A dead bedroom, waning mutual interests, and the threat of thirties are all starting to chip away at the couple. Put another way, their relationship needs a spark. I want to give it to them in the form of a MMF encounter. I have plenty of ideas for how this might work. Having been married for most of their twenties, there have been plenty of opportunities for extramarital attractions and tension to develop. A work-spouse, a friend, maybe even a relative... there are plenty of ways to put this couple in a situation where the tension finally gives way to tentative exploration. What comes out on the other side?  I'd like for the encounter to be a catalyst for the marriage to be reinvigorated; a way for the couple to learn things about one another that their stalled communications could never reveal.  With the right partner, I could just as easily go for an idyllic and smutty twist where they more or less maintain this threeway, with both men essentially treating the wife as their beloved little fucktoy or breeding partner.  Plenty of opportunities for all kinds of kinks.  Equally as important, however, is that the group finds this balance.  It's all about the female character and her enjoyment, but there might be connotations of D/s or just hyper-eroticised gender roles in general. His Most Prized Posession Sugar daddy, Pet play, Exhitionism, Threesomes (MMF and/or MFF) He's a 30-something professional with a lot going for him:  Intelligent, attractive, a great high-paying job, and newly independent thanks to the recently finalized divorce.  His ex won't be a part of the story, but his past experience with her infidelity plays a large role in his new mindset.  I don't envision this character harboring any generalized resentment towards women, but he's absolutely going through the motions of eschewing his nice guy attitude in favor of something a little less likely to lead him down a road he's already been on. I'm looking for someone to play this guy's younger girlfriend.  Where they met is up for discussion, but I'm particularly fond of them having been classmates.  My character might very well be a nontraditional student; a technical type with the experiential skillset required to afford him the job he has now, but the lack of a degree has his advancement opportunities fairly limited.  Attending classes with 18-26 year olds makes it easy for him to meet someone significantly younger, and it gives them plenty of opportunities, through things like study groups and other extracurriculars, to forge a relationship. Your character is, of course, your own.  I like the idea of someone softspoken and quiet with a carefully guarded wild side.  Entering a relationship with my character affords her a variety of things that are out of reach to other students in her position:  financial independence, a mature relationship, and a very healthy/adventurous sex life.  For my character's part, I can see a desire to emphasize traditional gender roles that could very easily veer into the realm of D/s.  At that point, the usual suspects come into play:  Objectification, ritualization, and experimentation.  At the core of their relationship is love, but I'm really craving a couple who can examine their sexuality together through a romantic lens rather than a full-on romance. Other potential kinks:  Pet play, Exhitionism, Threesomes (MMF and/or MFM) The sky's the limit, so if these characters or this premise sounds interesting, please do shoot me a PM.

[Kilaar]

Favorite Faceclaims

I want to do something graphic and fancy with this, but in the interest of getting the info out here, I'll provide a simple list for now.  These are by no means the only faceclaims I'm interested in, but they're among my favorites.

Actresses

• Kristen Bell
• Kelen Coleman
• Kat Dennings
• Zooey Deschanel
• Eva Green
• Katherine Heigl
• Scarlett Johansson
• Ashley Johnson
• Sonam Kapoor
• Anna Kendrick
• Jennifer Lawrence
• Alanna Masterson
• Natalie Portman
• Kristen Stewart
• Milana Vayntrub

Internet Personalities

• Yuuie

[Kilaar]

Active Stories:

• Extinguishing the Flame of Rebellion: Jyn Erso's Descent - With jinx013
• Quelling The Flames of Rebellion - With helvorn
• Welcome to My World - With Pollydactle

Inactive Stories:

• Her Two Husbands - With fantasygirl90
• Gamer Girl - With orderNchaos
• His Girl Friday - With IllusionsandLies
• His Most Prized Possession - with beanhollow
• The Office Party - With Zealously Jaded
• WXXP:  Behind The Scenes - With orangesphere

[Kilaar]

Quite a few updates this week.  Added a post with links to current stories, tidied up my listings, added a little visual inspiration, and updated my intro thread with immediate cravings. 

Chasing Star Wars stuff pretty hard these days.  I'll probably only start one more story, and I'd love to find a fellow Star Wars fan with a desire to write the incredibly capable Jyn Erso.

Oh, and I added Gamer Girls Wanted to my plot fragments area.

[Kilaar]

Couple more plot additions.  Brainstorming something that's pretty much stolen from Black Mirror's USS Callister, but not quite ready to post that yet.  All the same, would love another partner!

[Kilaar]

Looking to establish one more regular story.  :)  I just added His Most Prized Posession to my list of ideas, and I updated the Gamer Girl Wanted plot fragment with some more thoughts.  Send a PM if interested!

Cheers,
K

[Kilaar]

Posted some updates today.  :)  Added Her Wild Side to my Story Ideas.  Craving a few IM partners, as my schedule just got a lot less crazy.  Shoot me a PM if you're interested!

[Kilaar]

Added Reverse Catfishing today.   Catching up on stories and have shifted a few stories to inactive, so looking for perhaps one more.  Shoot me a PM.  :D

[Kilaar]

Back after a break -- and have room for one more story.  Added Fun in the Sun.  PM me if interested in writing!

[Kilaar]

Added The Office!

[Kilaar]

Added Closet Slave Girl and She's Missing Something.

[Kilaar]

Added Office Fling and reorganized a bit.  Looking to get another regular thing going.  Shoot me a PM if you see anything you like.

[Kilaar]

Shifting a small handful of stories to inactive, so I find myself with a bit of bandwidth again.  I've added two new ideas -- Breaking Out of Her Shell and Hot for Teacher Student -- and would love to chat with potential partners.  PM me if interested.

[Kilaar]

Added The Streamer:  Making Her Dreams Come True.

[Kilaar]

Made a few updates today.  Removed my student/teacher scenario, as that one has been taken.  I made substantial updates to my Streamer story and would love to find the right nerd for this role.  Shoot me a PM.  ;)