Non-Adult Deity Group Role Play

[Interested]

 All participants would put themselves in the role as deities with specific powers related to a topic of their choosing in character creation. Some overlap of portfolios (the topics I mentioned earlier) are permissable. For instance, Ares was a god of war, just like Athena. There would be different ways of raising the power of these player controlled gods. For example, you could take animal/human sacrifice, worship, or even soul theft, life force feeding/etcetera, to slowly grow in your personal powers. You could even create something more akin to a titan, demon or perhaps dragon than an anthropomorphic god, instead.

Power Levels of the Deities: Let's discuss this a little. I really want us to be the very pinnacle of power. . . and yet I want us to grow.

Here is a list of Portfolios for players to choose from (Though portfolios are not limited to these)=

(Any specific school of magic. You cannot choose "magic" because that's too broad of a portfolio)
Love
Healing
Beauty
Fire
Earth
Wind
Water
Animals
Plants
Knowledge (As in logic, reason, sophistication, education, learning and study)
Wisdom (Perhaps cunning, foreknowledge, common sense, empathy, and discipline)
War
Lightning

Character Creation:
Name:
God of: (There are three points to be used in order to put into Portfolios. If you want three Portfolios, for example, you must buy them with 1 point each. If you want one, then you'd put all three points into one Portfolio to make yourself even stronger with that portfolio)
History: (Life before godhood)
Appearance:

It should be noted that the role play takes place during a time that interested players voted from.

Would you choose creating a world of your own, and thus start in Primeval times, with Cavemen and dinosaurs?

What starting in the Bronze Age?

The Iron Age?

Hell, any age from Prehistoric Ages to futuristic Ages? (I'm hoping we would choose 2060-2200 myself.)

[Primarch]

So do we rule over a specific civilization? Because if we did we could set up "period" threads, each one some centuries or so after each, with events in prior "episodes" making a difference or controlling the direction it goes? Consider me interested, although i'd like to know more about the set-up before I commit. If possible, I'd like to reserve War & Lightning until more information is made available on the game. 

[Interested]

So do we rule over a specific civilization? Because if we did we could set up "period" threads, each one some centuries or so after each, with events in prior "episodes" making a difference or controlling the direction it goes? Consider me interested, although i'd like to know more about the set-up before I commit. If possible, I'd like to reserve War & Lightning until more information is made available on the game.

It is possible we would create our own civilizations. Or cooperate to make our own civilizations.

[KaiiVii]

I might be interested, depending on what we are actually playing out. I would like to note my interest in the god(dess) of Animals

[Interested]

I could NPC an Over-Deity who would be in the background while the players would actually play the game out, making the world OR remaking a world in ruins.

[KaiiVii]

Remaking things is always fun

[Interested]

What about starting later like I suggested?

Would you suggest starting out in futuristic times, cavemen (restarting) Or some thing more like Medieval or Bronze Age?

[KaiiVii]

Any really, Although I would prefure the restarting with cavemen or restarting in Future times.

[Interested]

Any really, Although I would prefure the restarting with cavemen or restarting in Future times.

Interesting. Restarting in future times sounds like it has role playing potential.

[KaiiVii]

There are definately a few different ways it could go, depending on how you wanted to do it.

[Interested]

I'm interested in seeing what the players think. . . Would they rather have High Fantasy in a futuristic setting, for example?

But if the decision is left up to me, I would definitely decide on putting out the choice between Remaking the World From Cavemen levels to Remaking the setting at Futuristic times.

[KaiiVii]

I suppose we should wait for some more opinions then xD I hope this takes off though, I'm kinda excited

[Interested]

Good!:o)

If more players don't chime in, then I'll just take off.:)

[Primarch]

But if the decision is left up to me, I would definitely decide on putting out the choice between Remaking the World From Cavemen levels to Remaking the setting at Futuristic times.

I'd rather start at caveman level, we can after all work up towards future times, thus experience more periods while we have less options for that by starting much later.

[Interested]

I'd rather start at caveman level, we can after all work up towards future times, thus experience more periods while we have less options for that by starting much later.

Good idea. There'd be ruins on the world left behind by previous people.

[KaiiVii]

Maybe a plot about conflict between the people who want to recover the tec of older times and those who think it is cursed?

[Primarch]

Good idea. There'd be ruins on the world left behind by previous people.

Which I assume our Gods would have been a part of in their mortal lives? Since if we do start off as cavemen period our gods must have also been cavemen, unless they were apart of some now long extinct society that wiped themselves out with Nuclear Fire thousands of years ago or some such, and human life is just re-developing from scratch. : D

[Interested]

Which I assume our Gods would have been a part of in their mortal lives? Since if we do start off as cavemen period our gods must have also been cavemen, unless they were apart of some now long extinct society that wiped themselves out with Nuclear Fire thousands of years ago or some such, and human life is just re-developing from scratch. : D

Yep. :)
Sort of like Planet of the Apes, only not with Apes.

[KaiiVii]

Wait are we playing 'gods' aka just powerful regular or magical people, or Gods, Devine in reality?

[Interested]

Wait are we playing 'gods' aka just powerful regular or magical people, or Gods, Devine in reality?

Depends. . . if we decide to remake the world either as Spiritual beings that were brought forth by a mysterious force or if we decide to be Spiritual beings also mysterious enchanted by a magical force of energy.

The result would be the same.

[Primarch]

Depends. . . if we decide to remake the world either as Spiritual beings that were brought forth by a mysterious force or if we decide to be Spiritual beings also mysterious enchanted by a magical force of energy.

The result would be the same.

I'd rather be either someone who has always existed as a god or become the divine embodiment of his "portfolio" as we've put it upon his death due to life deeds.

[KaiiVii]

I agree with always having been a god.

[Interested]

Hmmm......Neat.:)

[Primarch]

Well this Godly being must return to his plane of existence and slumber a great slumber before the next age of man. But by all means feel free to continue discussing and plotting in my absence, I'll review tomorrow morning and assuming we're ready post an character bio.

By the way, the portfolio's above, are they all rather literal or strict in their meaning? Or would perhaps a God of "lightning" have control over storms/weather in general or is it really just limited to what it says on the lid?

[Interested]

Well this Godly being must return to his plane of existence and slumber a great slumber before the next age of man. But by all means feel free to continue discussing and plotting in my absence, I'll review tomorrow morning and assuming we're ready post an character bio.

By the way, the portfolio's above, are they all rather literal or strict in their meaning? Or would perhaps a God of "lightning" have control over storms/weather in general or is it really just limited to what it says on the lid?

Literal. For instance although I suggest that particularily powerful gods of Sky or some such could be able to control lightning. Just not as well as equal ranked lightning gods.

[sinoraa]

I am interested in joining in on this, but I have a hard time seeing how it would play out, how each player would interact with each other, how we make it more interesting then. "And so when time began there was cave men....then there were space men....And somewhere along the lines some gods, did or said something."

[Interested]

I am interested in joining in on this, but I have a hard time seeing how it would play out, how each player would interact with each other, how we make it more interesting then. "And so when time began there was cave men....then there were space men....And somewhere along the lines some gods, did or said something."

Oh, trust me, I've done this many times. As long as the game lasts, it's always fun. ALWAYS.

The gods could create magical artifacts, shape the world's terrain, create magical schools (that mortals could use), create entire races of people, (Such as elves, or something) having demigod children, etcetera etcetera.

[KaiiVii]

Could I assume we could also have our mortals war amongst themselves?

[sinoraa]

Alright count me in....DIPS ON GODDESS OF WATER, AND THE SEA!!! I always loved how people had to pray to Poseidon, or drown....Such is the power of me!!!

[Interested]

Could I assume we could also have our mortals war amongst themselves?

Yes. That's definitely allowed.:)

[KaiiVii]

Sweet :D I'm really looking forward to this

[sinoraa]

Btw, I kinda lost track of the debate but can I have a physical form for my god? Basically I was thinking a giant serpent resting deep below the sea, like Hymir from the Norse religion.

[Interested]

Sure. :)

As long as it's not too too big.

[sinoraa]

What would be to big? I was thinking it would at least be big enough to tear apart ships... Snakes as generally five/four times the size (in length) of their prey....How big is a ship?

[Interested]

Your picture is just fine.:)

[sinoraa]

That is not enough for a god! He was taken down by a rope, and a hook. When we get to modern day, that thing would be shredded in the boats engine, if it tried to ram it. Fuck a whale would probably eat it by accident.

[Interested]

That is not enough for a god! He was taken down by a rope, and a hook. When we get to modern day, that thing would be shredded in the boats engine, if it tried to ram it. Fuck a whale would probably eat it by accident.

"Size matters not!" Yoda says. Later in the game you might be pretty large, but actually, even as a human sized god, you'd be powerful enough to wipe out entire armies. No need to worry about size.

[Primarch]

Would it be possible for our ranks in a particular portfolio to grow over time as our power grows? Or perhaps even if we wipe out "NPC" Gods/Goddess adding their portfolio's to our own? I assume there will be more gods then us three. :P

[Interested]

Would it be possible for our ranks in a particular portfolio to grow over time as our power grows? Or perhaps even if we wipe out "NPC" Gods/Goddess adding their portfolio's to our own? I assume there will be more gods then us three. :P

Oh yeah, Absolutely, although I sincerely hope there'll be more than three of us.

[KaiiVii]

I might be able to pull the boyfriend over to see if he is interested

[Primarch]

We don't appear to be attracting any others. Perhaps we should start putting in bios? Maybe people who are interested in it could take up more then one?

[Interested]

Yes and yes. GOod ideas Primarch. Your Emperor is proud.

[KaiiVii]

How many 'aspects' can we have then?

[Interested]

Hmmm Good question. Let's not have a maximum number of aspects, and instead have a limited number of "Avatars" Say. . . 3. . .

[KaiiVii]

I claim Plants Animals and Earth? I will post a profile Asap

[cryptkeeper0]

I would like to claim knowledge. As the god of knowledge you shall be forced to study and learn for 12 to 20 years of your life, just so you can get into a stable position in life, and just so you will have to continue to learn things to the day you die. *laughs manically* But since we are starting so far back i guess I'll teach humans how to make fire.

[Primarch]

Yes and yes. GOod ideas Primarch. Your Emperor is proud.

Excellent. Tomorrow I'll put in my War/Lightning God, and perhaps a Fire Titan.

[Primarch]

Name: Ríoghan
God of: War (2 Points), Storms (1 Point)
Religion: Ríoghan is venerated by early civilizations as the Father of all Champions, a one eyed but ever watchful God who encourages his faithful to raise shield to protect those who cannot protect themselves, and to lash out with the sword against those who are without honour. While as a God of War he of course promotes fighting, he has no interest in his warriors killing at random, those who seek his favour are encouraged to truly test their mettle against foes and beasts as mighty as they are themselves. As is the nature of war however, that his scorn is a terrible thing. While his Champions always aim to protect their own and the weak, those who go to war without the ideals of Ríoghan are nothing in his eyes, they are wicked and unfaithful. Their cities are to be torn down and destroyed, so that the faithful may spread their borders and their faith.

The head of Ríoghan's faithful is and ever has been a woman. The finest warrior woman of all his faithful will be visited in her dreams by her predecessors who will bless her as the Champion Mother and even though all men fight for her glory, it is not to aim to win her hand. For the Champion Mother of Ríoghan is to be untouched by man, for on her death she was ascend to his great hall in the heavens to be his bride and a dozen of her favoured warriors will escort her as her honour guard. The Champion Mother will then join all other brides of Ríoghan to be at the side of their God, where they may help him guide his chosen people. Their Honour Guards will feast, drink and fight with their battle brothers, preparing for the end of times when Ríoghan's great warrior host will be called for the war to end it all.

Avatars
The Hoplite - War - Adorned in brass coloured armour made by metals known only to the Gods, "The Hoplite" represents organized warfare and honourable champions. No mortal can hope to compete with his grace, skill, agility and of course, his godly weapons and armour he is not un. He is happy to teach his style of war to the faithful, however such a thing will have to wait until the world is ready.

   

Name: Tenerious The Dread Beast
Titan of: Fire, Death & Pestilence (1 Point each)
Religion: There is very little in terms of a "religion" floating around the titan Tenarious, but Elders whisper that he lives in the center of the world where he was locked away in ages long past.
However, the lock that binds him is the faith of man, and their deeds are the key.
It is said that when the wicked run the land and the gods are forgotten, the dread beast will be set free from his foul chambers so that he may walk the earth once more...
and every breath he takes will be the death of a first born, every step a mile of burned crops. His hunger for death and destruction is endless for it is burned from his stomach before it can provide him sustenance.

*****

I just realized, since we're basically going back to the dawn of humanity, its rather hard to establish any kind of religious history.....I had a great religious backstory thought out for Ríoghan (which will now be forward story I guess. :P) That being said, what should we include? Since our initial worshipers are going to be quite primitive I imagine, how much detail/what do you want?

[Interested]

If possible, we could begin with cultures more "Mayan" perhaps "Incan" based on South American Stone Ages rather than Paleolithic cavemen.

So. . . Maybe a few hundred years?

[Xenolord]

You guys still need peeps for this? Because if you do, I'm totally in!

[Interested]

And now, we have enough players, if the others of you who have already posted are still in.

We will still accept new players though.

[swordwind]

Are you saying we have 3 avatars to control and then were a god?

[Interested]

I mean, you control 3 avatars to control while you are a god.

Sorry if it sounds confusing.

[swordwind]

Consilium  -God of Wisdom(Wisdom 3)
Long ago a man of unknown understand was birth into the raging turmoil of the world. What he saw was a place unlike any other and he knew that something had to be done to protect it from the harsh reality that it would slowly evolve into. But to do such he needed something have other look upon and worship. Something that would draw their attention and make them believe within him. Something beautiful, something they would love, something that would heal their pain and allow them to push through the hardships they would face. He thought and thought about what he could do for the people that he saw walking upon the earth, then it came to him. These traits couldn't be place within one being, but they could be placed within three. So he went to work and created three women that would walk the lands, to guide those that didn't know where to go, what to do, and someone to believe within. With his hard work he created his daughters.


Amor- Avatar of Love- Portfolio (Love 3) People needed someone that would draw their inner passion and turn it on. Someone that would drive people to their limits because they wished to be. Someone that people could grow to love. Amor was the first daughter that Consilium created. With her by his side he could continue to push his goals because he desired it, and whenever he thought things wouldn't work he gazed upon her and he found a way to continue on.

Forma- Avatar of Beauty - Portfolio (Beauty 3)
Forma was the second that Consilium created. She would be the beacon that people would look upon to come to Consilium way of thinking. She would show the people the pinnacle of their greatness, in a physical sense, and draw them like a moth to the flame, her name would spread across nations with her beauty and others would speak of her for years to come.   

Sanitas- Avatar of Healing - Portfolio (Healing 3) Sanitas was the last that Consilium created of his three daughters, because even love and beauty could push one to their limits or draw them to their greatest heights, some people had pain that no one could cure, that's where Sanitas came into being. She could purify the body, mind, and soul, with her powers. She would rejuvenate the weak and make them strong. Allowing them to follow the path that Consilium would lay before them.

[Interested]

Consilium  -God of Wisdom(Wisdom 3)
Long ago a man of unknown understand was birth into the raging turmoil of the world. What he saw was a place unlike any other and he knew that something had to be done to protect it from the harsh reality that it would slowly evolve into. But to do such he needed something have other look upon and worship. Something that would draw their attention and make them believe within him. Something beautiful, something they would love, something that would heal their pain and allow them to push through the hardships they would face. He thought and thought about what he could do for the people that he saw walking upon the earth, then it came to him. These traits couldn't be place within one being, but they could be placed within three. So he went to work and created three women that would walk the lands, to guide those that didn't know where to go, what to do, and someone to believe within. With his hard work he created his daughters.


Amor- Avatar of Love- Portfolio (Love 3) People needed someone that would draw their inner passion and turn it on. Someone that would drive people to their limits because they wished to be. Someone that people could grow to love. Amor was the first daughter that Consilium created. With her by his side he could continue to push his goals because he desired it, and whenever he thought things wouldn't work he gazed upon her and he found a way to continue on.

Forma- Avatar of Beauty - Portfolio (Beauty 3)
Forma was the second that Consilium created. She would be the beacon that people would look upon to come to Consilium way of thinking. She would show the people the pinnacle of their greatness, in a physical sense, and draw them like a moth to the flame, her name would spread across nations with her beauty and others would speak of her for years to come.   

Sanitas- Avatar of Healing - Portfolio (Healing 3) Sanitas was the last that Consilium created of his three daughters, because even love and beauty could push one to their limits or draw them to their greatest heights, some people had pain that no one could cure, that's where Sanitas came into being. She could purify the body, mind, and soul, with her powers. She would rejuvenate the weak and make them strong. Allowing them to follow the path that Consilium would lay before them.

I'm sorry Swordwind. Theo thers posted their gods right.

Your avatars all are vessels of your spirithat you use to effect the outside world.

[swordwind]

 ??? huh

I'm a bit lost on that reply, their avatars. Meaning they interact with the world they are sent out into. So....how is this wrong or right?

[Interested]

I mean, like, the Avatars are kind of like an extension of a deitie's will.

[Primarch]

I updated my first bio, on another hand if anyone wants to plot a connection/relationship between their characters and mine I'd be quite interested.

[KaiiVii]

Name: Aelin
Goddess of: Plants, Animals and Earth
Religion: The aspects of Aelin are often worshiped both together and as a whole. When a mortal feels the need to speak to her they often journey deep into a wild area to leave an offering to speak in thanks or prayer. Aelin-of-Animals is the one that is affected by a Hunter's Prayer after a successful hunt and it is she that might keep the unthankful hunter unsuccessful for a time. She does not like the cutting down of her trees to make great cities and her favor is reserved for those who live close to the earth and herself. Harvesting plants for food or cutting down diseased wood is another mater altogether, as long as those mortals are thankful for her gifts.
Appearance:
Earth Avatar: A short and stocky lady with earthen skin tones and mossy looking hair. Her vivid green eyes convey her deep emotion in her mind and clothes made from flowing cloth.
Plant Avatar: A tall dryad seemly covered in papery tree bark. Naked but flat chested and obviously in human. Large eyes and no mouth and a small nose. Small vines sprout from her head as if they were hair.
Animal Avatar: Her form varies from types of animals. She always blends in with her surroundings looking completely natural but has an obvious aura of divinity to mortals.


(I want to draw something for them but Its not going tooo well)

[Primarch]

I just changed history to "Religion" and wrote about early civilizations understanding of the god and how to give worship. You could do that. :D

[KaiiVii]

Good idea...I think I will

[Tomalak]

Would anybody mind a late arrival?  I did something like this in High School, and it was a blast!
Shame I didn't keep it active...

Have you considered doing a 'in the beginning' story?  Or are primal deities even allowed?  I know if I got involved, that's the kind of thing I like to portray.

[cryptkeeper0]

god of knowledge: Proterious
history: He  rose up from the void of the universe as order came from chaos. He watched the creation of all things taking down there very structure and organization. In intricate detail he took down all that there was to know and continues to dissolve all new information. He observes all happening in the universe.
Avatars:
utoris: A tall skinny grey being with no visible mouth and large all observing eyes.
The book of knowledge: a book whose pages have no writing but can be read by those it chooses to allow them to read. Filling the head of its reader with the knowledge it allows them to read.
The tool of expression : A tool that takes the shape of what ever its user needs and allows them to express there ideas and knowledge to a level of detail and fluidity that they couldn't do with out it.

[RubySlippers]

Name: Taa

Goddess of: Commoners 1, Idleness 1 & Freedom 1.

History: As a mortal was a creature of leisure over work and hardly industrious not that she minded doing things she liked if it made her money but never work.

Appearance: A earthy beautiful mortal woman often in little more that flowers and a simple tunic and smells of natures bounty that oddly varies by the person one might smell flowers and another soft freshness after a rain whatever they most find beautiful in nature to smell. Her hair is earthy dark brown and eyes blue like the purest sea.

Religion: Her followers tend to work enough to get by but she encourages learning and invention focused on peaceful applications supporting dieties along these ends with the end goal a society someday freeing mortals up from drudgery as much as possible so they may focus on enjoying their lives. A goal others do likely oppose since ideally no one would work or do anything that is unenjoyable forever at a certain point. Her faith is not a rich one but one rather that is of intrinsic riches extra hours to savor, a friend to spend time with, a lover or lovers, a walk in the woods or a nice swim and yes earning money at what you find enjoyable. Her holy places are libraries open to all she encourages learning and everyone being equal in this poor or rich, most have recreational things to do, gardens, baths, healers and centers for inventors to meet and work on progrssing the mortal race in good ways. In rural areas she has sylvan temples that focus on advancing food producing science and learning and tend to be at hot spring areas. Her clergy are generally wise over attractive as the main consideration favoring clergy that set the example. Holy days are April 1st [All Fool's Day] where the cult pokes fun at the mainstream and frolics more than usual and pranking others that are serious is expected. May 1st [May Day] is honored as a day to just enjoy the spring and mortal good things. But she encourasges lots of festivals and parties and most temples have many, many local lesser holy days. Her cult is very popular among the common folk and no few elites prone to support leisure for different reasons.

However she abhors slavery, leaders that mistreat the poor over the wealthy but accepts the fact some are going to be over others always until she brings True Harmony, placing unseen or seen chains on others against their will and those that are uncharitable.

Avatars

Busty Peasant Girl: A older teen form with a voluptuous well fed body and scent of roses, often in a well worn dress showing off her form. [Commoner Aspect]

The Perfect Sloth: A perfect Sloth that can talk often lounging around some nice spot. [Idleness Aspect]

The Unbound Slave: A scantily clad enough for modesty woman in broken chains ans scarred from the lash with a wild look this is her harbinger form the one she takes when very angry to see her is to see your doom and her wrath when driven forth is ferocious. She rarely acts directly rather she will lay a curse or horror in place that will work itself out to undo that she is angry at. Note it may take alot to get her this angry but she rarely cools her temper once roused. [Freedom Aspect]

[RubySlippers]

I can see I'm going to be the popular deity in the game with all of you - so far. (sigh)

>:)

My character is not evil just wants mortal to never have to do anything they don't want, never go hungry or thirsty and enjoy their mortality with few if any cares someday. Might make all of your characters obsolete since she wants mortal invention to surplant the deities so we can retire from the lives of mortals.

[Primarch]

Retire? We've just started!

I gotta teach them all how to cave in each others heads properly.

[Interested]

Ok. . . We should start soon.

[Primarch]

Ok. . . We should start soon.

So how will it work precisely? Will we just RP as our avatars representing our Gods or will we be switching back between Earth and some kind of Clash of the Titans God Room?

[sinoraa]

I would disagree with that Ruby. Sense your god is so easy going, why would they worship her? There have been many gods of joy, and festivity through out the ages, yet we do not see them around anymore. What it comes down to is that people will not ask some deitys permission to have fun. But they will however fall down on their knees, and step in line if not doing so would get you a front row seat in eternal hell fire. And I find it harsh to call my character evil, she does however consider the sea hers, and rightfully so as its goddess. But if humans wish to swim around in it, drink it and clean their dirty... unmentionables... then she demands tribute. How would you like it if someone stormed into your house, uninvited, and did as they pleased?

I remember a few years back ants somehow got into my house, and built a nest in a crack in the wall... Their presence disgusted me, so I had them wiped out... So in a fashion, because they invaded my domains, I wiped out their entire civilization. Yes ants are not people, but people are hardly gods.

[Primarch]

I remember a few years back ants somehow got into my house, and built a nest in a crack in the wall... Their presence disgusted me, so I had them wiped out... So in a fashion, because they invaded my domains, I wiped out their entire civilization. Yes ants are not people, but people are hardly gods.

Same thing happened to me last summer, they were coming from a crack at the side of our driveway into the house for the sugary drinks my brother would leave around over night. They didn't get the message when I sent boiling water down their crack, so I deployed chemical weapons D:< A great plague to wipe them out!

[RubySlippers]

I would disagree with that Ruby. Sense your god is so easy going, why would they worship her? There have been many gods of joy, and festivity through out the ages, yet we do not see them around anymore. What it comes down to is that people will not ask some deitys permission to have fun. But they will however fall down on their knees, and step in line if not doing so would get you a front row seat in eternal hell fire. And I find it harsh to call my character evil, she does however consider the sea hers, and rightfully so as its goddess. But if humans wish to swim around in it, drink it and clean their dirty... unmentionables... then she demands tribute. How would you like it if someone stormed into your house, uninvited, and did as they pleased?

I remember a few years back ants somehow got into my house, and built a nest in a crack in the wall... Their presence disgusted me, so I had them wiped out... So in a fashion, because they invaded my domains, I wiped out their entire civilization. Yes ants are not people, but people are hardly gods.

She is not a diety of pleasure but rather three things - commoners (those at the bottom of the mortal systems of leadership), idleness (not don't work rather work at what you love and as little as necessary to get along) and freedom (this to include freedom from want and anything freedom entails). My dieties ultimate goal is to form a mortal society so advanced that they don't have to do anything they don't want to do, live well their mortal lives and have a harmony where change is no longer necessiated by war or other challenges. Until then her clergy focus on these in ways suited to the society now such as innovations in food gathering so that its easier and therefore they eat better giving more time for other things a bit. When artifical intellignece comes along she wqould push this to create a master AI that could run robots to do menial things for mortals freeing them up from such drudgery. I want to make needing the gods and goddesses not necessary for mortals under her care. Consider her progressive but only as loing as progress ends in no need for progress at some point.

But she is not a nice diety you step on those under you, enslave the innocent or attack her dominion she could be as big a threat as any diety just being more sneaky. Like she might create a champion of the common man, mantle him or her with special abilities and plant them among a population of slaves creating a Spartecus at a real bad time in a society like a slave revolt during a major war by a mortal that has the strength and ability to withstand damage far greater than any other around. Maybe even hidden so the God of Wars faithwould train them in the crafts needed to rise up successfully. Or she might opt just to free the slaves by carrying them off to another land. But its unlikely at large her big goal can be met its like most drwams a dream but a society might get there among mortal socieites under her auspices.

She would be worshipped due to her offering those downtrodden a friend and many will die for a friend over someone striking fear into their hearts.

And must I note true the ants were ants, you get driver ants in swarms they can kill a human and strip them down to bone.

[Primarch]

As it would happen if she was too achieve her goal and the world, no longer needing nor wanting the Gods, forgot about them it would release my Titan of fire, death & pestilence :D

[Tomalak]

But she is not a nice diety you step on those under you, enslave the innocent or attack her dominion she could be as big a threat as any diety just being more sneaky. Like she might create a champion of the common man, mantle him or her with special abilities and plant them among a population of slaves creating a Spartecus at a real bad time in a society like a slave revolt during a major war by a mortal that has the strength and ability to withstand damage far greater than any other around. Maybe even hidden so the God of Wars faithwould train them in the crafts needed to rise up successfully. Or she might opt just to free the slaves by carrying them off to another land. But its unlikely at large her big goal can be met its like most drwams a dream but a society might get there among mortal socieites under her auspices.

This sounds like an antagonist to me. 
You are setting up a character who will become angered by any who mistreat (in your character's opinion) those below them.  That's going to seem like just about everybody at some point in the game.  Is it your intent to be constantly trying to rebel against the other deities? 

[Interested]

Where should I put this?

[RubySlippers]

This sounds like an antagonist to me. 
You are setting up a character who will become angered by any who mistreat (in your character's opinion) those below them.  That's going to seem like just about everybody at some point in the game.  Is it your intent to be constantly trying to rebel against the other deities?

She is not going against deities if a commander of war treats a common warrior fairly say not hurling serfs with padded armor, wicker shields and spear as the main force to be obliterated so the cavalry flank has a better chance of working then its unfair. The same serf is trained, in good armor and shield as part of a strategy equally risking the nobility and others higher born its fine. Her commoners with learning and a sense of fairness backed by her cult would see the latter is preferable and if any refuse orders to do such an attack she would back the commoners until the commanders have more sense. Since most armies rely almost solely on "enlisted and conscripts" angering them would not be good they might lose the armed force.

And all dieites should get their worship her dream is that one that she knows is going to take a long time. But she has things to offer. Her greatest weapon is commoners being educated, commoners yearning to be equal and free to think and exchange ideas and using these tools as her weapons the weapon of liberty ingrained in the soul of mortals forged by learning and knowledge guided with no idea being off limits or taboo. Then let them guide themselves to a better world nudged by her helping out maybe not always openly. JUst make sure you cults follow her rules and you do right by mortals then no problems will be there. Like if an area refused the goddess of the seas and waters then we have an issue where you have a right to justly respond to the outrage to your due. And commoners or not should honor the god of war. Until well she makes the entire diety thing unneccessary I'm thinking of having souls that can ascend to a higher form at some point a super race that together could match any diety alone in power. Her version of a check and balance over our affairs with mortals thast could someday usurp our role. My character really wants to retire to a paradise of her own at some point and leave all this bad drudgery work to others. Until then damn it the universe for making her work.  ;)

[Tomalak]

That's a very modern viewpoint.  How did such a mindset develop in a primitive or medieval setting? 

[RubySlippers]

It will evolve over time right now its more fire good, can make with flint and sticks if you practice then we will work on a spear with a spear thrower device so you get more food. Being a visionary diety she knows its going to take time to get there like a Renaissance Period society to really get going then she can step up her game. But even in the Roman period you had Spartacus rise with a slave uprising.

[Primarch]

Where should I put this?

Light Human small groups I suppose, perhaps exotic?

[Tomalak]

It will evolve over time right now its more fire good, can make with flint and sticks if you practice then we will work on a spear with a spear thrower device so you get more food. Being a visionary diety she knows its going to take time to get there like a Renaissance Period society to really get going then she can step up her game. But even in the Roman period you had Spartacus rise with a slave uprising.

I was referring to the idea of not throwing away peasants as though their lives don't matter.  The idea of a caste system is intrinsically related to pre-modern eras.  You have a very modern viewpoint, and I'm curious how the deity develops such concepts from scratch - Why does she advocate the concept of leisure and discretion for all?

[Primarch]

I was referring to the idea of not throwing away peasants as though their lives don't matter.  The idea of a caste system is intrinsically related to pre-modern eras.  You have a very modern viewpoint, and I'm curious how the deity develops such concepts from scratch - Why does she advocate the concept of leisure and discretion for all?

Because she's a deity, her mind is infinitely complex compared to ours, and she has a "divine plan," which by its very nature should take thousands of years to run its course, if not the entire length of her worshipers existence.

[Tomalak]

Because she's a deity, her mind is infinitely complex compared to ours, and she has a "divine plan," which by its very nature should take thousands of years to run its course, if not the entire length of her worshipers existence.

That sounds like a traditional Monothiestic outlook.  Pantheist deities tend to be less long-view, or at least less egalitarian.

At this point, I'd like to state that I'm putting so much interest into this character, because she seems out-of-place to me in this situation.  That may just be my perspective however.  I'd like to get an understanding of this character before I decide whether or not to play, if that's cool with Ruby.

[Primarch]

That sounds like a traditional Monothiestic outlook.  Pantheist deities tend to be less long-view, or at least less egalitarian.

At this point, I'd like to state that I'm putting so much interest into this character, because she seems out-of-place to me in this situation.  That may just be my perspective however.  I'd like to get an understanding of this character before I decide whether or not to play, if that's cool with Ruby.

One of the joys of roleplay, we don't need to stick to such defined characteristics of the supernatural. Get to indulge our imaginations. 

[RubySlippers]

The Hebrew God was actually rather egalitarian. Every 7th Jubilee they had to redistribute all the wealth of all the twelve tribes for example evenly between all persons and this was an OLD diety concept and one note proverbs included ones to state the poor should be treated fairly. Ever read the Torah texts on laws and the proverbs its in fact pretty radical for a primitive people.

Why should mortals be treated as inferior just because as a deity there is more power to her its our duty to use that in the game to make mortals better and do good to those under our charge. The water goddess should teach men and women to fish better and give them clean water to drink not have storms smiting them. To do so makes you look like a monster that clearly is unworthy of the power you have not she would say that to the deity. Just her point of view. So mortal leaders should use their positions to do right by those that support them and treat them fairly for the greater good. If that is a neanderthal chief or future president of a mighty nation the rules are the same to her as things progress.

And didn't say don't risk common soldiers just don't toss them into the fray with insufficient training and inferior equipment especially if they didn't volunteer. Say instead of padded armor and a spear a good suit of leather armor, good shield and decent group combat trained backed up by other superior units intelligently giving the commoers a fair shake. The war god should support this its wasteful to toss untrained men and women with crap for equipment into the fray and should dishonor the warriors fighting them if they are far better prepared.

[Tomalak]

Why should mortals be treated as inferior just because as a deity there is more power to her its our duty to use that in the game to make mortals better and do good to those under our charge. The water goddess should teach men and women to fish better and give them clean water to drink not have storms smiting them. To do so makes you look like a monster that clearly is unworthy of the power you have not she would say that to the deity. Just her point of view. So mortal leaders should use their positions to do right by those that support them and treat them fairly for the greater good. If that is a neanderthal chief or future president of a mighty nation the rules are the same to her as things progress.

And here we come to the crux of my problem.  I wish everyone in this game well, and hope you have fun with it.  I am not, going to be joining you, unfortunately.  Perhaps next time?

[RubySlippers]

I played fantasy games alot, and Forgotten Realms in particular, many dieties there are nice. Lathander is alot like my character in fact as are other dieties. This is not a real world mythos game if you want Greek dieities I'd play one as a Greek diety but if we are making up our own and its not adult in nature why can't I take a diety that is nice to mortals?

I thought she would be nicer opposition than the goddess of dark evil bad things that controls hell or something, one that is good to mortals in a way that might tick of other deities when she meddles to help them. At least the commoners and those yearning for freedom in various forms. With an end goal she wants and even she is not sure how to get there yet. As a player I have ideas as a deity she is going to have to keep things simpler for now.