A Tribute to Heath Ledger

Started by Lancis, January 24, 2008, 09:45:30 AM

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Lancis

I am surprised I dont already see this here...

Hats off Heath, you were a good actor, may good give you a good part. :)

dead at 28 what a shame
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Archangel

I agree, the world lost another good one, at a far too young of an age.

i remember him in the short lived TV series "Roar"... I love that show.
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Was a shock to me as well
I loved "A Knight's Tale"
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Yeah, "A Knight's Tale" is where I remember him from the most, along with "Ten Things I Hate About You". I'll admit he had a really nice smile, it seemed really sincere.
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Trieste

I was talking to my mom about this yesterday. They said on the news that they would be going through the new Batman movie for anything that could be 'insensitive'. I turned to my mother and was like "God, I hope they don't rip up the last movie he made because he died." and she answered "Yeah, that'd be a shame. I can't see any family wanting to do that but you never know."

A little less sexy in the world makes me sad. :(

Spookie Monster

I'm afraid that I've never been too familiar with Heath Ledger or his work.  I mean, I vaguely understood that he was in A Knight's Tale and Monster's Ball and Brokeback Mountain, but as I didn't have any connection to those films, I didn't have any connection to him.  I did know that my sister rather liked him in Roar, that Terry Gilliam liked him, and that he's the Joker in The Dark Knight.  I did have a favorable impression of him, therefore, because for me my sister's word is gold, Gilliam's a genius, and the Joker's an engaging villain.  Still, my favorable impression was based on loose, secondhand sources.

Now that Ledger has died, however, I'm getting a feeling for the positive impact that he had on people's lives.  I'm not getting it by reading his biography or watching his movies, though.  I'm getting it simply by watching the faces and listening to the voices of the people who did know him and who are familiar with his work.  When these people say, "This is a tragedy," they're not just saying, "This is a tragedy for him and for his family"; they're saying, "This is a tragedy for me and for all of us."

I'm better with cookies than with words.  Instead of embarrassing myself further, therefore, I'm going to draw from a classic:

No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.


R.I.P., Ledger.

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Elvi

He was a young and budding actor, who knows, he may have been another 'great' hell knows we could do with some.

However....
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4183635&page=1

Sometimes people really make me sick and that's all I'll say on the matter because this is niether the time, nor the place for the ammount of anger and disgust I hold for people like this....
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Trieste

The WBC exists to piss people off. They are the shock jocks of the Christian world. They ar ridiculous, a laughingstock.

They do not deserve your rage; I think Mr. Ledger himself would have laughed it off as ridiculous. Who knows, he still may be doing so. So there you have it, if you want it.

Elvi

Laughing stock maybe, but to do something such as this (and what they have done) is, as I have said beyond disgust.

The people who are being burried are beyond caring, it's those who cared for them that I show concern for.

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kongming

I know, it's completely disgusting what they are doing. It's a bit easier if people just think of them as "real life" trolls, and take the usual anti-troll methods (ignore, grade them on trolling technique, refer them to 4chan, imitate them at every moment in strange methods), but they are still interfering with something that is emotional for a lot of people, and I can't really think of a proper word for how they're acting.

Childish does come to mind, though, other than the fact that most children would show more sensitivity.
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HairyHeretic

Contemptable is a fairly apt description of their behaviour.

I feel certain there's a fairly nasty spot in the afterlife being prepared for them as we speak.
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There was one thing that I found in that report that I did find ironicly funny.
It really makes me wonder how these people's minds work.

He, [George Amado, the general manager of New York City's Frank E. Campbell funeral home], refused to elaborate further, saying, "The family doesn't want us to give out any information."

"They are going to try and hide the body like a bunch of ghouls so we can't protest. The only thing in this country people worship more than filthy sex acts is the dead," Phelps-Roper [daughter of the church's controversial founder Pastor Fred Phelps], said.
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kongming

Quote from: Elvi on January 24, 2008, 07:55:38 PM
"They are going to try and hide the body like a bunch of ghouls

Since when did ghouls sneak into graveyards to hide bodies rather than steal/eat them? And these are the clerics, they know all about undead!

QuoteThe only thing in this country people worship more than filthy sex acts is the dead,"

I agree. Let us stop worshipping the dead. If anyone has died, we must not offer them worship or pray to them or anything. Sorry, Jesus, you're out of here.

*facepalm*
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Quote from: Elvi on January 24, 2008, 06:08:26 PM
He was a young and budding actor, who knows, he may have been another 'great' hell knows we could do with some.

However....
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=4183635&page=1

Sometimes people really make me sick and that's all I'll say on the matter because this is niether the time, nor the place for the ammount of anger and disgust I hold for people like this....

i refuse to let the anger that people like this get the best of me.  they don't deserve my notice - they are worse then cockroaches.  I do think that they deserve a special place in hell. Heath Ledger was a beautiful sweet person and nothing they can do will change that.  My only hope is that karma takes it's toll on these...  less then people.  that's the last thing i'm going to say on the subject - instead, i'm going to focus all my thoughts on thinking good thoughts for his family, those he's touched, those who loved him.  Only small people full of nothing but hate would ever stoop to this level.  i pity them.
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Sabby

I really, really enjoyed A Knights Tale. I never really know the actors names, so I had no idea that that guy was Heath Ledger until after it was mentioned here. Now that I think about it, he seemed so genuine. What a brilliant actor, and I could see him being a nice guy in person :)

So early in life... "Now reaper can enjoy his show"

And on those inbredded, brainwashed hicks... seriously, I support the whole 'believe what you will' ideal, but these guys can honestly just go get run over by bus's any time they're ready. If I saw Phelps rolling around on fire, I wouldn't even urinate on him to save him.

Though, I did get a giggle when he announced Australia as The Country of Sodomy. Dude... we originated from convicts >.>

Caeli

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I first saw him in "The Patriot", and then in "Ten Things I Hate About You". I fell in love with his smile - I agree, it always seems so genuine for each character, and he just has that wonderful charm that always makes me sigh and stare at the TV while I hug my body pillow. <3

And with all those people who are going to "picket his funeral"... seriously. It's just ridiculous. There are no words to describe the stupidity of people who believe that that (or picketing funerals of military men and women who died in Iraq) is actually going to do anything but raise disgust and ire towards them.
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kongming

Quote from: Sabbat on January 25, 2008, 09:38:52 AM
Though, I did get a giggle when he announced Australia as The Country of Sodomy. Dude... we originated from convicts >.>

Except for South Australians. We're pretty much the non-convict state. I like to think of myself as a noblewoman who missed out just due to place of birth.

Anyway, god apparently hates America (there's a website by that very name), Canada and Sweden. So now Australia. So, let us assume these crack-addicts are actually his PR department and they seriously have any idea what the big G thinks, then who doesn't he hate, so far? Slowly but surely, they're building the list up.
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10 things i hate about you was just on tv too... oh, he was the best part of the whole movie, too.  Those eyes... *dreamy sigh* 
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Lancis

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Heath played a gay man, as an actor, and was in no way gay himself...

that group is wasting their time, in my home state, picketers have been barred from Military funerals the govenor ruled that funerals "were private and not public events." Since the ruling this group has only been rarely seen here... anyway..

Sorry Heath god rest ya.

Also on IMDB the Dark Knight movie is listed as "Post Production" making me guess that we will see it with Heath as the Joker, likely with a dedication to heath in the Credits.. and for now on the official page Warner Brothers has done this

http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/HeathMemorial.html


One would wonder what will happen to the movie that he was in production for The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus...



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MadPanda

So long, Heath.
My deepest sympathies to the Ledger family for their loss.

(observe moment of respectful silence for the departed)

As for the WBC, I will say only two things.

First, while it is understood that these people are nothing more than attention whores who glory in the fury and anger they spark in others with their insensitive grandstanding...it galls any decent person to see such attitudes thrown about, and silence may be read as consent and agreement rather than a mature attempt to handle a cheap bully.  Therefore although to comment is to give them what they want, one often feels compelled to express outrage at their juvenile antics. 

(And to any Canadians in the audience, we US citizens are really, really sorry this guy burned your flag on the steps of your Supreme Court simply because you decided that gays are human beings.  If he tries to enter your country again, kindly stamp him 'return to sender' and ship him back.)

Second, it was once said that those the gods wished to destroy, they first drove mad.
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LOL...I can only laugh at the idiocy of the WBC.

>_> Seriously, movies like this are made for entertainment, NOT to show the actors portrayed in them as their preferences.

I remember there was a DVD that came with Brokeback Mountain that talked about Heath having a hard time doing the movie.

Heath, sorry to see you pass before your time...I didn't recognize you till I saw the story in Yahoo! News.

We can only wonder what happens and continue on as best as we can after losing such a great actor...and yes, he would've been a great actor. Anyone can see that.
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I don't think they are all up and arms because Heath is gay (he's not, it was a role in a movie) their all nutting out because "He is glorifying a disgusting, sinful lifestyle and your all making him a hero for it"

I only just now found out the Joker is Heath. He plays an amazing crazy man :)

HairyHeretic

Quote from: kongming on January 25, 2008, 10:08:10 AM
Anyway, god apparently hates America (there's a website by that very name), Canada and Sweden. So now Australia.

Ireland too apparently.

The picture they have on the page uses the heads from the Notre Dame team icon/mascot, and the Lucky Charms leprecaun. For a group so fond of lawsuits, I wonder how they'd react to one against them for copyright infringement of some kind?
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Well, the forces of kindness and decency will yet have their vengeance.

One of the kids in my voice acting class is planning a movie-and-booze wake for Mr. Ledger.  We're going to drink Fosters and watch all of his movies back to back.
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Now I might feel bad when I mock his portrayal of the joker in comparison to jack nicholsons awesome version of the joker. *sigh*
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Lancis

today I witnessed a show called "The Soup" a show that revels in the dirt in Hollywood today the host flat out said witha  picture of heath behind him "We have never mentioned him much on this show, but thats because he was a decent human being."

To hear a smut jockey say such is great and shows the true character of the man if the only ones with anything bad to say dont really matter.
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Elvi

Bloody hell.....
How many times does this happen, it really is very, very sad....

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080206/tts-uk-ledger-6409add_2.html
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Trieste

For fuck's sake...

QuoteMedical experts said it was highly unlikely a single doctor would have prescribed such a mix.

"If someone has an overdose death with that kind of toxicology report, it's usually an indication that they were either doctor-shopping or purchasing medications either on the street or on the Internet," said Andrew Kolodny, a psychiatrist at Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn.

Irresponsible. Uncalled for. Shame on him.

It's unlikely that all of that would be prescribed together, unless Ledger is like 98%* of Americans (yes, including imports) who don't finish their prescriptions and save them for when they feel they need them. Especially with many doctors wary of prescribing relaxtants and painkillers, if you don't need to take that last percocet, you're not going to throw it away. You're going to tuck it in your medicine cabinet and save it for when you feel you need it.

Same with just about every other prescription.

It's also a bit easier to get whatever you want prescribed when you are in the entertainment industry. Unless you want to be known as "That doctor who wouldn't prescribe Heath Ledger painkillers so he could get on with filming his next flick." Yeah, right.

And I'll note he had NyQuil in his system when he was reported to have had pneumonia. Who wouldn't? Give me a break. It's ridiculous. It was a mistake, there was nothing shady about it. He did not commit suicide. It was an accident. Let him rest and let his family bury him. Jesus fucking christ.

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Elvi

It's sad that it is so easy to 'pop another pill' and you're right Trieste.
In a place where you don't have to pay a huge sum for drugs, it's far easier to hand them back to the doctor or pharmacy for disposal. (We have just done that very thing, getting rid of things that we no longer take or need.)

In this case however, I think it's more a very sad case of depression mixed with exhaustion, mixed with pressure of work.
Again, another has fallen by the way side, simply because he tried to cope with it all by himself.

Cases like Heath's get plastered all over the media, cases like Fred Smith from number 38, don't.

If anything should be learned from this, it should be don't mix your own medical cocktail, know what you're taking and stick to the dossage.
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Quote from: Elvi on February 06, 2008, 06:40:41 PM
Cases like Heath's get plastered all over the media, cases like Fred Smith from number 38, don't.

That's for sure. My Dad was a prescription drug addict for more than twenty years (70s to 90s), taking benzodiazepines, mood elevators, anti-depressants, narcotic pain-killers, and antihistimines in various combinations through those two decades. And contrary to that doctor's opinion, they were ALL prescribed by the same doctor. It's just more fashionable now to say that doctors don't do such things, and far less likely that the situation with anyone less than famous will lead to any significant oversight or later review unless an egregious pattern develops and comes out through lawsuits or some such.

But even then, the most likely cause of Elvis Presley's death was a drug allergy that a dentist overlooked.

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QuoteMedical experts said it was highly unlikely a single doctor would have prescribed such a mix.

"If someone has an overdose death with that kind of toxicology report, it's usually an indication that they were either doctor-shopping or purchasing medications either on the street or on the Internet," said Andrew Kolodny, a psychiatrist at Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn.
There's a case going on here in my home state (Kansas) that has shut down a clinic because the Doctor there and his wife have been charged with over-perscribing medication. Something like 56 people have died over the past few years of overdoses from that particular clinic... so it's possible, however unlikely, that Heath actually got such a perscription from an irresponsible (or flat out criminal) doctor.

Here's the tribute I posted on another forum for Heath the day after his death. I thought I would share it because this man was one of my favorite in Hollywood. I real treasure with a great passion for his work... and it really showed on film.

Quote from: meHe got his start with the fantasy TV series Roar, but he really became one of Hollywood's bright young silver screen actors, with a face the ladies swooned over and men wanted to punch because of the swooning. He was well on his way to becoming one of the premeire actors of his generation. With Ledger's role in Brokeback Mountain, he's certainly done it all, from the memorable to the controversial. Probably playing the comic world's most recognized villain in this summer's Dark Knight, but the films I'll remember him most for are his roles in The Patriot and A Knight's Tale, primarily because those are the roles that for me most play on my imagination. I sit back and really wonder what it would be like to be the characters he portrayed in those two films.

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