Overlords (Pathfinder Mythic Sandbox)

[Snake]

I built a mythic vampire once. he was nigh-unstoppable it was awesome :3

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ah, mythic vampire is template on itself (my bad not realizing it)! Well, you can be regular templated vampire and get class levels and pick a path etc, but if you take mythic vampire template (cool powers), you gain all the stuff the mythic vampire got access to (and what I can see it's otherwise +3 CR template so can have 20 levels class levels or add couple more templates). However the mythic ranks take all possibillity of picking path abilities.

So it's choice between playing mythic vampire (which is truly badass vampire as vampire can get), or play regular vampire (with all perks and drawbacks) and pick path ability if you do not pick templates or base race which is monstrous with monster HD.

So choices are between;

Regular vampire (human/elf/half-elf etc) unchained rogue 20 (pick a path and perhaps cr 1 template atop this)

Regular vampire (human/elf/half-elf etc) unchained rogue 20 (take mythic ranks and get pick freely from path abilities or pick unique abilities, perhaps take some mythic vampire stuff as unique abilities but so you need pick lower abilities first before able pick higher level stuff, so thus not able pick eclipse ability in 10th unless you take all mythic vampire stuff and you count then as same as if taken mythic vampire from start)

Mythic vampire (human/elf/half-elf or monster who can turn vampire minus it's monster hd/cr from levels) unchained rogue 20 (not pick path abilities at all)

If asking myself, I would take mythic vampire always as it negates some weaknesses being one, your able block sun, blood drain 30'ft off you, create illussions with mists and able throw stuff with telekinesis and able to fly either bat wings or floating (or swarm of bats for flavor).

[firepyre]

Is taking a mythic monster path allowed as an option even for lower cr creatures? I'm leaning towards playing a quickling ninja gunslinger, and dual initiative actually fits really really well with the concept.

[Snake]

Geez I think I just made the most powerful char I have ever put time into.

an unchained monk with a mythic rank of 10 XD talk about "You are already dead"

He's a dimensional assault monk too. he can flank enemies with HIMSELF. shit. XD

[Zaer Darkwail]

Is taking a mythic monster path allowed as an option even for lower cr creatures? I'm leaning towards playing a quickling ninja gunslinger, and dual initiative actually fits really really well with the concept.

I allow it :).

Geez I think I just made the most powerful char I have ever put time into.

an unchained monk with a mythic rank of 10 XD talk about "You are already dead"

He's a dimensional assault monk too. he can flank enemies with HIMSELF. shit. XD

Don't tell me said monk is named Goku :P. However get extra anime style points if you instead say; '...you'll have been torn to pieces.'

[Snake]

Nah. I just used one of my normal psuedonyms cuz I can't think of a better one: Hiro I'm not good with names

but at least I found a really good pic.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Also for tip for villain building (fluff wise), here is link for TV tropes for all tropes associated villains; http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Villains

[Snake]

can you PM me a cliff notes version? My connection hates that site with the fury of a thousand suns

[firepyre]

Eh. I think, for me, that prize would go to my 18th level gestalt tengu swordmaster. If he got into melee, you're fucked.

Turn 1 teleport beside them.

They so much as twitch? Smack the fool.

They attack? Smack them twice

They run? Smack, denied

They cast? Smack, denied

They teleport? Smack, denied

Arrows and bullets? Cut them out of the sky

Catapult? Cut it down.

Magic? Cut it!

You can make some crazy stuff with gestalt.

[Snake]

I didn't know Gestalt as allowed, I can turn the bullshit to the max with my monk by adding fighter or something XD yay feats.

[firepyre]

Haha. Sadly it's not. I was talking about another game, actually.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Yeah, no gestalts allowed here :P. Here in spoiler are short note of all possible tropes (if want deeper detail can copy paste it).

Villain Trope List

     0% Approval Rating: The villain is unpopular with his/her underlings.
    Absolute Xenophobe: Will destroy anything not of their own kind.
    Abusive Parents: Very not nice towards their kids.
    Abusive Precursors: Just because they created that race or this fancy technology doesn't mean they have to be nice towards them.
    Accuser of the Brethren: Wants The Atoner to suffer for what they're trying to atone for and doesn't want them to be redeemed.
    Activist Fundamentalist Antics: They're antagonists because they're trying to force their fervently-held beliefs on others.
    Adaptational Villainy: Someone becomes more villainous in an adaptation.
    The Adjectival Man: If people call him "the [X] Man" — especially if its "the [X] Man of [Y]" — he most likely isn't going to be nice.
    Adorable Evil Minions: The villain's forces are not always hideous or monstrous.
    Affably Evil: If they weren't the villain, they'd be nice to be around.
    African Terrorists: Ruthless militants from a (likely impoverished) sub-Saharan African nation.
    The Aggressive Drug Dealer: They really don't want you to walk away from a deal.
    A.I. is a Crapshoot: Artificial intelligence goes out of control.
    Alas, Poor Villain: The villain is so nice or troubled that you can feel sorry when they meet their demise.
    Aliens and Monsters: Threatening non-humans are evil by default.
    Aliens Are Bastards: Blasting planets and abducting cows does not make a nice extraterrestrial.
    Alpha Bitch: High in social status, low in kindness.
    Alto Villainess: Her voice is as low as her morals.
    Always Chaotic Evil: An entire race or species is evil and aggressive.
    Amoral Afrikaner: A white South African involved in a morally questionable line of work, often with implied racist undercurrents.
    Amoral Attorney: An evil, opportunistic lawyer.
    Angry Guard Dog: Grr! Snarf! Bark! Bite!
    Animal-Themed Superbeing: Supervillains (and superheroes) are fond of animal motifs and have powers based on them.
    Antagonist Abilities: Villains tend to have much more raw power than heroes, forcing the latter to get creative.
    Antagonist in Mourning: A villain grieves a hero's (real or apparent) death.
    Antagonistic Governor: Fictional governors are often greedy, ambitious, and prone to abuse their powers and subjects.
    Antagonistic Offspring: The villain is the hero's own son or daughter.
    The Antichrist: The ultimate enemy of the faithful on earth.
    Anti-Role Model: This character shows us what not to be like.
    Anti-Villain: A villain who isn't truly evil- ambiguous, maybe.
    Arc Villain: Not the villain of the whole story, just of a little story arc.
    Archnemesis Dad: The protagonist's father is the main villain.
    Armies Are Evil: Soldiers portrayed as violent thugs, or as expendable pawns for corrupt leaders.
    Arms Dealer: Sells weapons for a living, to either side.
    Arrogant Kung-Fu Guy: All ego and power, no discipline.
    Artifact of Doom: This weird doohickey, medallion, or statue causes a lot of problems through its powers or presence.
    As Long as There is Evil: Evil will always pop up as long as evil exists.
    The Assimilator: They want you to be a part of them.
    Ass in Ambassador: A diplomat who acts as undiplomatic as possible.
    Asshole Victim: They suffered a nasty fate, but they kind of deserved it.
    Ax-Crazy: Insane and violent.
    Babysitter from Hell: You really shouldn't leave your kid with this person.
    Bad Boss: Doesn't care about his underlings whatsoever.
    The Bad Guys Are Cops: Law enforcement isn't always on your side.
    Bad-Guy Bar: Where all the nasties hang out to play pool and start fights.
    Bad Guys Play Pool: A favorite pasttime at the Bad-Guy Bar.
    The Bad Guy Wins: Sometimes the villain has his day. Too bad, heroes!
    Bad Samaritan: Think this guy is helping you out of the goodness of his heart? Think again.
    Bad Santa: Jolly, present-giving, and loves kids? No no no, not this Santa!
    Bad Is Good and Good Is Bad: Morality is subjective, at least for villains.
    Baddie Flattery: The villain compliments the hero.
    Barbarian Tribe: Primal, chaotic warriors who excel at pillaging and burning.
    The Baroness: She's seductive, icy, and oh so evil.
    Bastard Bastard: The illegitimate child or heir is evil or a jerk.
    Battleaxe Nurse: When a nurse isn't nice.
    Because I'm Good at It: The villain only does things because s/he is good at it.
    Beta Test Baddie: They feel incomplete, so they take out their rage through evil.
    Better the Devil You Know: It's a better idea to stick with a bad situation you know about than a new situation that could be worse.
    Biblical Bad Guy: People based on villains from The Bible are definitely evil.
    Big Bad: The number one villain, responsible for everything bad that happens in the story.
        Big Bad Duumvirate: There's two Big Bads working together! They might not get along, though.
        Big Bad Ensemble: Multiple Big Bads in the same story, but not necessarily on the same side. They still might not get along.
        Big Bad Friend: The Big Bad was once such good friends with one of the main characters.
        Big Bad Slippage: The Big Bad slowly becomes evil.
        Big Bad Wannabe: The villain isn't as big of a threat as s/he seems.
        Ex-Big Bad: You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself stop being the villain.
    The Big Bad Shuffle: Villains are working for other villains.
    The Big Bad Wolf: A powerful wolf from classic fairy tales. Talents include disguise, gale-force breath, and a voracious appetite for pigs, little girls and grandmothers.
    Big Red Devil: Devils and demons are colored bright red.
    Bishonen Line: A villain's powerful transformation is prettier and more humanoid.
    Bit-Part Badguys: They're villains, but don't really do much.
    Bitch in Sheep's Clothing: They seem nice, but they're really anything but.
    Black Cloak: What better way to obscure yourself than wear a conspicious black cloak?
    Black Knight: A powerful, mysterious knight who wears black armor.
    Black Shirt: They're waiting for the Big Bad to come to power so they can serve him/her.
    Black Widow: She likes her men rich and dead.
        The Bluebeard: He has a lot of dead wives.
    Blob Monster: Amorphous and amoral.
    Bloodbath Villain Origin: The villain's Start of Darkness began with sudden mass murder.
    Bomb-Throwing Anarchists: Revolution and overthrowing of hierarchy through violence and destruction.
    Breaking Out the Boss: The underlings rescue the villain.
    Breakout Villain: The villain is popular enough to be used more often.
    Bright Is Not Good: Bright colors can be dangerous.
    The Brute: The muscle of the villain's gang.
    The Bully: A scumbag who enjoys tormenting those weaker than them.
    The Butcher: He didn't get that nickname from being nice to people.
    The Butler Did It: The butler is the most likely in old-style murder mysteries to be the murderer. An old cliche.
    The Caligula: A ruler who is completely, murderously off their rocker.
    Cannibal Clan: The family that eats people together, stays together.
    Cannibal Tribe: A tribe of people-eaters.
    Card-Carrying Villain: Evil and proud of it.
    Carnival of Killers: A wide assortment of assassins, usually attracted by an open contract on someone's hide.
    Cartoonish Supervillainy
    Cast as a Mask
    Character Alignment:
        Lawful Evil
        Neutral Evil
        Chaotic Evil
        Stupid Evil
    The Chessmaster: Always has a plan, and uses people as pawns.
    Child Eater: Primarily preys upon children.
        Eats Babies: Literally.
    Child Hater: Hates children and wants to make them suffer.
    Childhood Memory Demolition Team:
    Chronic Backstabbing Disorder: Always betrays the people they work with.
    Chronic Villainy: Can't seem to escape being evil.
    Church Police
    Churchgoing Villain
    Circus of Fear
    Classic Villain
    Clock King
    Les Collaborateurs
    The Collector
    Colonel Kilgore
    Combat Sadomasochist: This villain gets off on pain — both yours and theirs.
    Commie Nazis: Combines the worst traits of fascism and communism.
    Complete Monster: The worst of all villains; a villain who is pure evil.
    The Computer Is Your Friend
    The Conqueror
        Conqueror from the Future
        Galactic Conqueror
        Multiversal Conqueror
        Young Conqueror
    Conflict Killer
    The Conspiracy: An evil organization that controls everything behind the scenes.
    Contagious A.I.
    Contrasting Sequel Antagonist
    Corporate Samurai
    Corrupt Bureaucrat
    Corrupt Church: A good church gone bad.
    Corrupt Corporate Executive: An evil business exec out for power and greed.
    Corrupt Hick
    Corrupt Politician
    Corrupt Quartermaster
    The Corrupter: Wants to bring out the worst in everyone around them.
    Cosmopolitan Council
    The Cracker: An evil hacker who breaks into systems with criminal intent.
    Crazy Survivalist
    Create Your Own Villain: Sometimes a villain's origin is the result of the hero's own actions.
    Creepy Child
    Creepy Crossdresser
    Creepy Doll
    Creepy Twins
    Creepy Uncle
    Criminal Convention
    Crooked Contractor
    Cruella to Animals: An animal-abusing villain.
    Cult
        Apocalypse Cult
    Culture Police: The enemy of free expression.
    Cute and Psycho
    Daddy's Little Villain
    Dangerous Deserter
    Dark Action Girl
    Dark Chick
    Dark Lord on Life Support
    Dark Magical Girl: A Magical Girl who serves the cause of evil.
    Dark Messiah
    Dark Mistress
    Darth Vader Clone
    Dastardly Whiplash: A classic stereotypical villain with top hat and twirly mustache, who likes to "mwahaha" a lot. Relegated to the realm of parody these days.
    Decadent Court
    Deadly Doctor
    Dean Bitterman
    Deceptive Disciple
    Demonic Dummy
    Demon King Nobunaga
    Demon Lords and Archdevils
    Depraved Bisexual
    Depraved Dwarf
    Depraved Homosexual
    Depraved Kids' Show Host
    Designated Villain
    Despotism Justifies the Means
    Devil, but No God
    Devil in Plain Sight
    Diabolical Dog Catcher
    Diabolical Mastermind
    Digitized Hacker
    Dimension Lord
    Diplomatic Impunity: I have diplomatic immunity! I can do anything, and you can't stop me!
    Disappointed by the Motive
    Disc One Final Boss
    Disproportionate Restitution
    Disproportionate Retribution
    Dirty Communists
    Dirty Cop: A cop on the take, or just plain corrupt.
    Dirty Coward: Out to save their own skin at other people's expense.
    The Dog Was the Mastermind: When the true enemy is hiding in plain sight.
    The Don: The leader of The Mafia.
    Dracula: The lord of all vampires.
    The Dragon: Second-in-command to the Big Bad.
        Dragon Ascendant: When the Dragon takes over after the current Big Bad's defeat.
        Dragon Their Feet: When the showdown with the Dragon happens after the Big Bad's defeat.
        Dragon with an Agenda: A Dragon with seperate goals from the Big Bad.
        Dragon-in-Chief: A Dragon that is a greater threat than the Big Bad himself.
        Co-Dragons: More than one Dragon.
        Demoted to Dragon: The current Big Bad being revealed as the Dragon to a bigger threat.
    Dragons Are Demonic: The villain is an evil dragon that might also just happen to be symbolic of evil itself.
    Dragons Are Divine: The villain happens to be a dragon god.
    The Dreaded: The kind of guy who strikes fear into the hearts of others, to the point of scaring them when they see him.
    Driven to Villainy
    Dystopia Justifies the Means
    Egomaniac Hunter
    Eldritch Abomination
    Embodiment of Vice
    The Empire
    The Emperor
    Emperor Scientist
    Enemy Mime
    Enemy to All Living Things
    Enemy Within: The villain is actually within the hero.
        Superpowered Evil Side
    Enemy Without
    Enfant Terrible
    Enigmatic Minion
    Enlightened Antagonist
    Enthralling Siren
    Eunuchs Are Evil
    Even Evil Can Be Loved
    Even Evil Has Loved Ones
        Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas
    Even Evil Has Standards: There are things that this guy just WILL NOT do.
    Even Mooks Have Loved Ones
    Everybody Hates Ares
    Everybody Hates Hades
    Evil Albino
    Evil All Along: Character turns out to have been behind the bad things that happen all along.
    Evil Chancellor
    Evil Chef
    Evil Colonialist
    Evil Counterpart
    Evil Cripple
    Evil Debt Collector: Pay up or else, deadbeat!
    Evil Diva
    Evil Duo
    Eviler Than Thou: A villainous force claims themselves to be superior to the others.
    Evil Former Friend
    Evil Genius
    Evil Gloating
    Evil Hero
    Evil is Cool
    Evil Is Not a Toy
    Evil is Sexy
    Evil Jesuit
    Evil Knockoff
    Evil Laugh: MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
        Un Evil Laugh
    Evil Luddite
    Evil Matriarch
    Evil Mentor
        Sensei for Scoundrels
    Evil Minions
        Archived Army
        Mooks
            Elite Mooks
        Airborne Mook
        Faceless Goons
            Gas Mask Mooks
        Giant Mook
        Helpful Mook
        Henchmen Race
        Hordes from the East
        King Mook
        Kung-Fu Proof Mook
        Mascot Mook
        Mecha-Mooks
        Merciful Minion
        Middle-Management Mook
        Minion with an F in Evil
        Mook Lieutenant
        Mook–Face Turn
        Mook Depletion
        Mook Promotion
        Night of the Living Mooks
        Nocturnal Mooks
        Personal Mook
        Psycho for Hire: A hired agent who's in it for the sadism.
        The Psycho Rangers
        Punch Clock Villain
            Halfhearted Henchman
        Quirky Miniboss Squad
        Replacement Mooks
        Slave Mooks
        Sociopathic Soldier
        Stealthy Mook
        Stompy Mooks
        Superpowered Mooks
    Evil Nephew
    Evil Old Folks
    Evil Orphan
    Evil Orphanage Lady: A Child Hater who runs an Orphanage of Fear.
    Evil Overlord
    Evil Plan
    Evil Poacher
    The Evil Prince
    Evil Puppeteer: A villainous puppeteer or ventriloquist.
    Evil Reactionary: A villain who wants to return things to an older time, no matter what they have to do or who gets hurt in the process.
    Evil Sorcerer
    Evil Sounds Deep
    Evil Sounds Raspy
    Evil Teacher
    Evil Twin
        Evil Brunette Twin
    Evil Uncle
    Evilutionary Biologist
    Evil Vegetarian
    Evil Versus Evil
    Evil Weapon
    The Extremist Was Right
    Face–Heel Turn: When a hero goes evil.
        Tragic Monster
    Face of an Angel, Mind of a Demon: Often used to feign niceness.
    The Fair Folk: Think faeries are all sweetness and light? Think again!
    Fair-Play Villain
    Fake King
    Fallen Hero: This villain used to be a hero before undergoing a tragic fall from grace.
        Fallen Angel: When an angel falls from grace, be afraid. Be VERY afraid.
    False Friend: A "friend" that turns out to be anything but.
    Falsely Reformed Villain: A villain who pretends to change their ways to further their latest evil plan.
    The Family That Slays Together
    Family Values Villain
    Fantasy Axis of Evil
    Fantasy-Forbidding Father: Wants to stamp out their kid's dream in favor of something more practical.
    Far-East Asian Terrorists
    Fashionable Evil
    Fashion-Victim Villain
    The Fatalist
    Fat Bastard
    Fat, Sweaty Southerner in a White Suit
    Faux Affably Evil: His so-called niceness is all to hide his evilness.
    Femme Fatale
    Femme Fatale Spy
    Fetus Terrible
    Feudal Overlord
    The Fighting Narcissist
    Filler Villain
    Film Felons
    Five-Bad Band: The Evil Counterpart of the Five-Man Band.
    Forced into Evil
    For the Evulz: What the villain does, he does because destiny says so, for his own amusement, or just because he can.
    Forgotten Friend, New Foe
    Former Regime Personnel
    Four Eyes, Zero Soul
    Friendly Enemy
    From Nobody to Nightmare
    Full-Circle Revolution
    The Fundamentalist: This villain always wants to be right, and anyone who disagrees with them is
    The Gadfly: Someone who like to insult everyone because they enjoy seeing the resulting reactions.
    The Gambler
    The Generalissimo: The evil oppressive dictator of a Banana Republic.
    General Failure
    General Ripper
    Generic Doomsday Villain
    Giggling Villain
    The Gimmick
    Girl Posse
    Girl Scouts Are Evil
    Glory Hound
    Glorious Leader
    A God Am I: Don't just play God; BE GOD!
    God Is Evil
    God of Evil
    God Save Us from the Queen!
    Goldfish Poop Gang
    Good Girl Gone Bad
    The Government
    Greater-Scope Villain: A bigger threat than the Big Bad that doesn't have as big of an effect on the plot.
        The Dark Side
    The Group
    Grand Vizier Jafar
    Greedy Jew
    Green and Mean
    Hair-Raising Hare
    Hair-Trigger Temper: Everything pisses this villain off.
    Hanging Judge: Runs his court like his own personal fiefdom; don't count on any justice if you're brought before him.
    Hard-Coded Hostility
    Harmless Villain: A bad guy who poses no real threat and is more likely to foil his own plans than other people.
    The Hashshashin: The original Assassins.
    Hate Sink: Someone who is created to attract hate from the audience.
    Have You Come to Gloat?
    Headless Horseman
    The Heartless
    The Heavy: The antagonist that does the most work in driving the plot forward.
    Heel: The villain in a Professional Wrestling match.
        Foreign Wrestling Heel: The evil foreign heel in a wrestling match.
        The Giant: Large and in charge.
        Gorgeous George: An effeminate wrestling villain.
        Wrestling Monster
    Heel–Face Mole: Thought I turned good? SUCKER!
    Heroes Act, Villains Hinder
    Heroism Addict: A villain who engineers dangerous situations so that they can stop them and be a hero.
    Hero Killer: Anytime this guy shows up, the good guys don't stand a chance.
    Hero's Evil Predecessor
    Heteronormative Crusader
    He Who Fights Monsters: A "hero" corrupted into villainy by revenge.
    Hidden Agenda Villain
    Hidden Villain
    Hijacked by Ganon: A previously defeated villain returns as a new threat.
    Historical Rap Sheet
    Historical Villain Downgrade
    Historical Villain Upgrade
        Apocalypse Hitler
    History's Crime Wave
    Hive Queen
    Hope Crusher: Wants to drive people into despair and suffering.
    The Horde
    Horde of Alien Locusts
    Horny Devils
    Hostile Animatronics
    Hostile Hitchhiker
    Hungry Menace
    Illegal Guardian
    Imaginary Enemy
    I'm a Humanitarian
    Implacable Man
    In Love with Your Carnage
    Incidental Villain
    Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain
        The Family for the Whole Family
    Insane Admiral
    Insane Equals Violent
    Intellectually Supported Tyranny
    Intercom Villainy
    Interim Villain
    Invasion of the Baby Snatchers
    Invincible Villain
    Jack the Ripoff
    Jackass Genie
    The Jailer
    Joker Immunity
    Jumping Off the Slippery Slope: A character's ambiguous moral orientation is proven as evil.
    Just Between You and Me
    Just Like Us
    Just You And Me And My Guards
    Kaiju
    Karma Houdini
    Keeping the Enemy Close
    Kick the Dog: A despicable deed done by him in different ways.
    Killer Cop
    Killer Gorilla
    Killer Robot
    Killer Space Monkey
    King Koopa Copy
    The Klan: Fictional portrayals of one of the most infamous hate groups in America.
    Kneel Before Zod: Bow to me, hero! Acknowledge my supremacy!
    Knight of Cerebus: Everything was lighthearted and funny until this bastard showed up.
    Knight Templar: A "righteous" villain who goes way too far.
    Kosher Nostra: The Jewish Mafia.
    Lady Macbeth
    Last Villain Stand
    Laughably Evil: This villain's purpose is often to make you and the audience laugh.
    Lawman Gone Bad
    Leaking Can of Evil
    Lean and Mean
    Legion of Doom
    The Legions of Hell
    Lesbian Vampire
    Light is Not Good: Think he's a good guy just because of his "good" magic and light-themed clothes? Think again!
    A Lighter Shade of Black
    Living Doll Collector
    Living Shadow
    Living with the Villain
    Loan Shark
    Loners Are Freaks
    Loony Fan
    Love to Hate
    Lower-Class Lout
    Mad Artist
    Mad Bomber
    Mad Doctor
    Mad God
    Mad Science Fair
    Mad Scientist
    Magnificent Bastard: Outsmarts everyone else and looks good doing it.
        Bastard Understudy
    Mailer Daemon
    Make My Monster Grow
    Make the Bear Angry Again
    Make Way for the New Villains
    Malevolent Masked Men
    The Man
    The Man Behind the Curtain
    The Man Behind the Man
    The Man Behind the Monsters
    The Man in Front of the Man
    Man of Wealth and Taste: Villain is rich and fashionable.
    Maniac Monkeys
    Manipulative Bastard: A villain who manipulates the characters through their emotions.
    Mascot Villain
    Master of Illusion
    Master Poisoner
    Master Race
    Meet the New Boss
    Mega-Microbes
    The Men in Black
    Middle Eastern Terrorists
    Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds
    Misanthrope Supreme
    Mistaken for Granite
    Mister Big
    The Mob Boss Is Scarier
    Mobile Menace
    The Mole: An evil character who has infiltrated a good guy group.
    Monument of Humiliation and Defeat
    Monster Clown
    Monster Sob Story
    Monster Suit
    Moral Event Horizon: An act so horrible and unforgivable that it ultimately lands him with eternal hate from other characters.
    Moral Guardians: Crosses over into Well-Intentioned Extremist or other Knight Templar territory.
    Morally Ambiguous Doctorate
    Morally Bankrupt Banker
    Moral Pragmatist
    Moral Sociopathy
    Most Definitely Not a Villain
    Mouth of Sauron
    Murder, Inc.
    Murderous Mannequin
    My Country, Right or Wrong
    My Master, Right or Wrong
    Mysterious Backer
    Mysterious Mercenary Pursuer
    Narcissist
    A Nazi by Any Other Name: A villain or villain organization with heavy Nazi undertones and/or inspiration.
    Nazi Grandpa
    Nazi Protagonist
    Near Villain Victory
    Nebulous Criminal Conspiracy
    Nebulous Evil Organisation
    Necessarily Evil
    Nepharious Pharaoh
    Nerd in Evil's Helmet
    Nice Character, Mean Actor
    No Antagonist
    Noble Demon
    Noble Top Enforcer
    No One Sees the Boss
    Non-Action Big Bad
    Non-Malicious Monster
    No Song for the Wicked
    Not Evil, Just Misunderstood
    Nothing Can Stop Us Now!
    Not Me This Time
    Not-So-Harmless Villain: He looks like he wouldn't pose a real threat... but he actually does.
    Obliviously Evil: This guy has no idea that what he's doing is wrong.
    Obvious Judas
    Obviously Evil: You can tell he's evil just by looking at his appearance.
    Offing the Mouth
    Offing the Offspring
    Omnicidal Maniac
    The Omniscient Council of Vagueness
    One Bad Mother
    One-Winged Angel
    Opportunistic Bastard
    Opposing Sports Team
    Order Is Not Good: Because Order likes to oppress freedom and not even looking at people individually, it's often a villain materials compared to Chaos.
    Orderlies Are Creeps
    Out, Damned Spot!
    Outside-Context Problem
        Outside-Genre Foe
        Technologically Advanced Foe
    Overarching Villain
    The Paranoiac
    Pædo Hunt: Pedophiles are especially evil.
    Paid Harem
    Path of Inspiration: An evil religion that disguises as a good religion.
    Pedophile Priest: A holy individual with an unholy interest in children.
    Peek-a-Bogeyman
    The Peeping Tom
    People Puppets
    Perky Female Minion
    Perverse Puppet
    Piggybacking on Hitler
    Pirate
        Ghost Pirate
        A Pirate 400 Years Too Late
        Ruthless Modern Pirates
        Sky Pirate
        Space Pirates
        Submarine Pirates
    Plaguemaster
    Planet Eater
    Plot-Irrelevant Villain
    Poisonous Captive
    Poisonous Friend
    Poisonous Person
    Poke the Poodle: A mildly bad deed committed by the villain (usually the incompetent type)
    Police State
    Polite Villains, Rude Heroes
    Politically Incorrect Villain
    Predatory Business
    Predecessor Villain
    President Evil
    The Prima Donna
    Psycho Electro
    Psycho Ex-Girlfriend
    Psycho Lesbian
    Psycho Prototype
    Psychopathic Manchild
    Psycho Psychologist
    Psycho Supporter
    The Punishment
    A Pupil of Mine Until He Turned to Evil
    Pure Is Not Good
    Put Them All Out of My Misery
    Pyromaniac
    The Quincy Punk
    The Quisling
    Rabid Cop
    Raising the Steaks
    Red Scare
    Regent for Life
    Regularly Scheduled Evil
    Religion of Evil
    The Remnant
    Renegade Splinter Faction
        Renegade Russian
    The Renfield
        The Igor
    Reptiles Are Abhorrent
    Repulsive Ringmaster
    Restart the World
    Retired Monster
    Rich Bitch
    Right-Hand Cat
        Right-Hand Attack Dog
    Right-Wing Militia Fanatic
    Rival Turned Evil
    Robotic Psychopath
    Rogue Agent
    Rogues Gallery
    Rogues Gallery Showcase
    Rogues-Gallery Transplant
    Rogue Protagonist
    Rotten Rock & Roll: Villains having rock as their theme music.
    Rule of Two
    Sadist: This guy really loves to make others suffer, doesn't he?
    Sadist Teacher
    Satan: Self-explanitory.
        Satanic Archetype
    The Savage Indian
    Scary Amoral Religion
    Scary Dogmatic Aliens
    Scary Scarecrows
    Screwy Squirrel
    Schoolyard Bully All Grown Up
    Sealed Army in a Can
    Sealed Evil in a Can
        Sealed Inside a Person-Shaped Can
    Secondary Color Nemesis
    Secret Circle of Secrets
    Secret Police
    Serial Killer
    Serial Rapist
    Shadow Archetype
    Shadow Dictator
    Shady Real Estate Agent
    Shoot the Messenger
    Siblings in Crime
    Silent Antagonist
    A Sinister Clue
    Sinister Geometry
    Sinister Minister
    Sinister Shades
    Sissy Villain
    Sixth Ranger Traitor
    Sleazy Politician
    Sliding Scale of Antagonist Vileness
    Sliding Scale of Anti-Villains
    Sliding Scale of Villain Effectiveness
    Sliding Scale of Villain Threat
    Smug Snake: He has such an over-the-top-ego that we just can't stand him.
    The Social Darwinist
    The Sociopath
    Soft-Spoken Sadist
    Sorcerous Overlord
    Sorting Algorithm of Evil: Each major enemy or group of enemies become more powerful than the first.
    The Spymaster
    Stage Mom
    Stalker with a Crush
        Prince Charming Wannabe
    Standard Evil Empire Hierarchy
    Standard Evil Organization Squad
    The Starscream
    Start of Darkness
    Starter Villain
    State Sec
    Straight Edge Evil
    Straw Hypocrite
    Straw Nihilist
    Stronger Sibling
    Sudden Sequel Heel Syndrome
    Super-Persistent Predator
    Supervillain
    Supervillain Lair
    Suspiciously Idle Officers
    The Svengali
    The Swarm
    Swiper, No Swiping!
    The Syndicate
    Taxidermy Is Creepy
    Team Killer
    Teens Are Monsters
    Terrible Trio
    Terrorists Without a Cause
    Theatre Phantom
    Thematic Rogues Gallery
    Then Let Me Be Evil
    They Look Just Like Everyone Else!
    This Cannot Be!: Once his plans are foiled, he voices his disbelief that it happened, despite the evidence staring him in the face.
    Those Two Bad Guys
    Those Wacky Nazis
    To Create a Playground for Evil
    Token Evil Teammate
    Token Motivational Nemesis
    Tom the Dark Lord
    Torture Technician
    Totalitarian Utilitarian
    Tragic Villain: He became evil, all right, but it wasn't by choice; it was by something tragic instead.
    Trapped in Villainy
    Treacherous Advisor
    Troll
    Tykebomb
        Laser-Guided Tykebomb
    Übermensch
    Uncanny Valley Girl
    The Unfettered
    Unhand Them, Villain!
    Unholy Matrimony
    Used to Be a Sweet Kid
    The Usual Adversaries
    The Usurper
    Utopia Justifies the Means
        Perfection Is Impossible
    Vain Sorceress
    The Vamp
    Vampire Vannabe
    Very Punchable Man
    Vicious Vac
    Vile Villain, Laughable Lackey
    Vile Villain, Saccharine Show
    Villain Antagonist
    Villain Ball
        Villain Ball Magnet
    Villain by Default
    Villain Corner
    Villain Cred
    Villain Decay
    Villain Episode
    Villain Exclusivity Clause
    Villain Forgot to Level Grind
    Villain Has a Point
    A Villain Named Khan
    A Villain Named Zrg
    Villain of Another Story
    Villain Opening Scene
    Villainous Vow
    Villain Protagonist
    Villain Song
        Villain Love Song
        Villainous Advice Song
        Villainous Lament
        Villain Recruitment Song
        "The Villain Sucks" Song
    Villain Respect
    Villain Sue
    Villain Takes an Interest
    Villain Team-Up
    Villain Teleportation
    Villain with Good Publicity
    Villain World
    Villainous Breakdown: When things happen that don't go according to his plans, he completely loses his composure.
    Villainous B.S.O.D.
    Villainous Cheekbones
    Villainous Crush
    Villainous Friendship
    Villainous Glutton
    Villainous Harlequin
    Villainous Incest
    Villainous Legacy
    Villainous Underdog
    Villainous Valour
    Villainous Widow's Peak
    Villains Act, Heroes React
    Villains Blend in Better
    Villain's Dying Grace
    Villains Out Shopping
    Villains Want Mercy
    Villainy-Free Villain
    The Virus
        The Corruption
    Visionary Villain
    Walking Spoiler - Usually, if a character is one of these, they turn out to be a villain unbeknownst to both the characters and the audience.
    Wardens Are Evil
    We Are Everywhere
    We Have Reserves
    Welcome to Evil Mart
    Well-Intentioned Extremist
        Not So Well-Intentioned Extremist
    Western Terrorists
    White Hair, Black Heart
    With Great Power Comes Great Insanity
    What Measure Is a Mook?
    Who's Laughing Now?
    Wicked Cultured
    Wicked Stepmother
    Wicked Toymaker
    Wicked Witch
    Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds
    The Worm That Walks
    Worthy Opponent
    The Wrongful Heir to the Throne
    Yandere
    Yellow Peril
        Dragon Lady
    You Have Failed Me: He callously punishes those who fail to do as he orders with the death penalty.
    You Have Outlived Your Usefulness: When he decides he no longer needs other people, he just simply offs them. Callously.
        Shoot the Builder

[Knarfy]

Will item creation feats translate to discounts on gear?

[Snake]

Bummer. XD that'd be a little too insane here.

and my char hasn't used up his gold yet. do we have to buy up everyday supplies and shit too? Like mundane supplies like lanterns, rope etc? Or is that assumed to be around given the fortress nature of the setting?

Hiro is like : Affably Evil (think a LE version of Cayden Cailean,cept the booze is poisoned or somethin XD); The opposite to arrogant kung-fu guy (He believes in discipline, being a monk. MOre about discipline than "rule of law" though);

Generally more affably evil, fun guy to hang out with, just don't piss him off.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Item creation feats turn into discounts on gear yes. On yourself or your own minions (but not others minions or other people's gear).

Also as idea perhaps humanoid form of our red dragon spoiler of virgins is one following;

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You use gold for everything you char owns. Also if you do not invest on magical wards or warded doors or magical comforts in the keep, the keep will be absent without them in the game. That's why I recommended 1/5 of your wealth very least invested on keep itself if not want get any minions under your control and name.

[Snake]

A minion too? Hmm. I've probably only used slightly less than a mill on the char I created here.  So yeah that may be a huge list of what the char owns though.

But mundane, everyday shit: that gets tiresome to catalog cuz it'd have ot be just so damn much XD

But somehow it's also appealing to someone that's really detail oriented. Hell I can have followers that worship me as a god! (since one of my path powers is "divine source" XD)

[Zaer Darkwail]

I can allow a loose budget of '1 million gp spend on non-magical/minor magical mundane things' to cover misc things. Including golden dragon carved portable bathtub.

[Re Z L]

So I just discovered there Kobold Press released this:  Advanced Races Lamia guide book, which includes rules for a base race for a Lamia!  Sadly it has +Str, +Cha, and -Int...would it be feasible to swap the Str bonus to Dex, and the Int penalty to Wis?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Nop, either use standard lamia matriarch as earlier you suggested or default ones in the guide as they are. But it matters little if you use feats, PrC's and such with matriarch lamia.

[Lockepick]

Eh, mythic vampire as some neat stuff, but it's pretty tough to use one of my path abilities just for the exciting ability to go near garlic.  >.> Eclipse is cool, but that cool factor would also cost 12+ MP/day just to function with the party. 

Ultimately: I'm more excited by the Trickster Path than I am Mythic Vampire. 

I'm still thinking rogue, but going to keep looking at more races/templates.

[Snake]

perhaps factored into the fortress cost you mention?

[Zaer Darkwail]

You can invest gold on the keep that way yeah. But in end gold needs spend and figured out what stuff is in keep. You could tell 1 million worth of art objects, but need be specific what kinds of arts, authors or items do have are there. As mentioned default keep comes already with posh furniture so no need money for any mundane living in keep in posh quality manner (so toilets, baths, rooms etc all covered for). Most what interest are are walls still made of stone or magically reinforced adamantine is what I am asking here, magical wards, guardians, magical functions (light control by magic, guild members teleport in keep at-will, extra layers or towers or functions in keep besides blacksmith or stables).

[Snake]

oh I see. Well I'd say a solid wall, portcullises, towers, etc XD  There's vids on YT going over waht proper fortifications are.

[Zaer Darkwail]

There is a wall and a gate but no moat (paid in gold what sort moat).

[Snake]

Ideally you'd need archer towers within bow shot of each other, the gate needs murder holes, a portcullis to slam down. etc etc. :3  I may donate whateve ri have left for that.