Canyon o' Doom!!! [Deadlands]

[BraveEarth]

Well Howdy there partner! There is big news in town, seems that Major John Wesley Powell, you know the one famous for his 1869 and 1871 expeditions through the  Colorado River into the Grand Canyon, had a bit of trouble on his third expedition. His corpse was lost to the river but belongin's of his survived. These here belongins wound up in the hand of Rutherford Ellington Dillenger known traveling Museum owner. Suddenly Mr. Dillenger up and contacts Powell's Family and the famous Explorer's Society. Something big is a brewin apparently Dillenger let it be known that he would be making a momentous announcement at the Salt Lake City Grand Hotel. Attracted by the man’s reputation, as well as rumors of involvement of the Explorers Society and Smith & Robards, journalists from all over the continent, both North and South have made their way to this distant outpost of civilization to hear what the Englishmen has to say. 

Okay so this is going to be a Classic Deadlands game complete with old school character generation, card drawing spell systems/ mad scientist creation, poker chips and gut wrenching terror. Anyone who is interested but doesn't know the background, wikipedia can help and I can help explain the loose ends. As mentioned Northern and Southern Allegiance characters are options, as well as anything you want to do. I will help with the character gen for each individual so please feel free to either PM or IM my yahoo, (Located <--- Over there). Given the nature of character turn over in Deadlands and this particular story being a bit inclusive for making new characters I'm going to start the game after a minimum of 7 join. Also anyone new to the system entirely I shall help and hopefully some other people familiar with it will band together to help make things easier.

[1SAZ]

I'm interested, but it's been a long time since I last played. That said, I'll have to hunt around for my books, but I figure we should have time while more interest pops up.

[AndyZ]

Interested

[BraveEarth]

Okay anyone interested who doesn't know that system I just found an pretty comprehensive tool on the web that would be rather helpful.

http://deadlandsclassic.wikidot.com/

Right now this thing seems like the grail to me

Edit: After reviewing it in a more sober state it isn't so comprehensive as I thought but it does lay out a good deal of the intial character gen

[Meliai]

I generally avoid games with a high mortality rate since I get attached to characters rather easily, but I've wanted to play Deadlands for AGES.

How do you plan on handling the card and chip mechanics online though?

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Tentative interest!

[BraveEarth]

Chip Mechanics are easy because of the die roller we can just assign certain colours to certain numbers and work from there, The card drawing I have two decks with me that I would prefer to use because while there is a card drawing simulator on RANDOM.ORG they don't keep track of the deck after the initial draw. And I have not found a good deck simulator.

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Dug up my player's guide and it's 1st ed. That's what you want to use, yes?

[BraveEarth]

I have the 2nd Edition although let me look up how much they changed things.

[Muse]

*Pounce!* 

Please count me in! 

[BraveEarth]

More the merrier and also Carnival Fannin' is now a Concentration of Shootin' rather than it's own skill ACtion rather than needing the skill

[Muse]

: ) anyone got a character concept yet? 

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

: ) anyone got a character concept yet?

Too many! That's the problem. I usually end up watching to see what others are fixated on and end up filling in the blanks.

[Meliai]

I've got a half-formed backstory for the daughter of a Chinese railroad worker and a railroad baron's wife, but I'm still reading through the player's guide so I haven't decided on what her abilities are like yet.
Mad science is super tempting but might be overly ambitious for my first character in the system.

[BraveEarth]

I'm gonna just pm all interested with draws after riffle shuffling 5 times between nit perfect randomness but close

[Muse]

Awesome.  :) 

I'm torn between a Huckster and a Big Guy. 

Any thoughts? 

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Despite what I said earlier about many ideas and tending to wait 'til others had theirs in, I'm definitely looking at a native American Shaman now. Never played one before (tendency towards gunslingers and Blessed).

[Muse]

I have my books now.  Le'ts see what I can churn out before sleep time.  :) 

[Muse]

Not quite done yet, but any thoughts, Brave Earth? 

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Name:  Stargazer
Player:    Muse   
Occupation: Brave   
Age:  17   
Birthday:  It was spring. 
Height:  5’9”
Weight:  155   
Build:  38D, 26, 36
Skin:  Copper
Hair:  Raven black with feathers.
Eyes:  Violet like the setting sun. 

There once was a girl among the Blackfoot people named Spring Breeze.  She was playful and whimsical, like a butterfly, flitting on the wind from one flower to another, beautiful and precious, capricious but kindly. 
   In her sixteenth year, Spring Breeze met a man with purple eyes and fell in love with him.  Many said she was shamefully doting on a white man from the traditing post, but she did not acknowledge them.  When the fall came, she no longer wandered into the countryside in search of her secret lover, but she was with child.  Her parents were furious, for they could have made a good marriage for their beautiful daughter.  Instead, she was doomed to be alone. 
   Spring Breeze didn’t care.  She said that the south wind had given her a daughter.  She would be strong—like her father.  She would be proud.  She would be brave.  She was destined to slay Manitou with strength and courage. 
   Everyone knew she was trying to hide the shame of being seduced and then spurned by a white man.  The wisest man in their band, fearing the girl would be rejected by all, even driven from her home, chastised the villagers for contradicting Spring Breeze.  The spirits would give a sign if her story was true.  ‘Til then, they should hush and judge not lest they be judged. 
   The babe was indeed a girl.  Her eyes were purple, like the sky at sunset.  The shaman declared that this was a sign that she was a true daughter of the sky, Stargazer, daughter of the South Wind. 
   Some of the Band were quite vexed.  They were forced to accept the fornicator without punishment, her bastard—clearly borne of a blue eyed white man—as one of their own.  Stargazer could feel the contempt her people had for her, veiled beneath polite words.  She was hurt and puzzled, but embraced her mother’s stories of her father with all her heart, accepting that she had a duty to protect the world from the Manitou.  Though she had no more aptitude for magic than any other of her band, she learned the warriors arts with speed and spirit.  By the time she was sixteen, she was taken on raids ith the boys of her generation. 
   While she wasn’t a big fan of some of the feminine arts, her completive spirit wouldn’t let her back down from learning them, either. She had to excel at all that she did, to prove to those who held her in contempt that she was the south wind’s daughter .
   In the quite of evening, sometimes, she stared at the stars and dreamed of adventure, glory, love and other things denied to her. 
   When the old holy man lay dying, her called her to his side.  “it does not matter who your parents are, little one.  You are who you make of yourself.  In that basket there, you will find tools suitable to the person you have made of yourself, a girl even the Manitou must fear.” 

Grit   0
Pace   13
Size   6
Wind   16

Cognition   2d10
--Artillery
--Arts
----
--Scrutinize
--Search (1)
--Trackin’ (3)
---

Deftness:  3d6   
--Bow (2)
--Flichin’
--Lockpickin’
--Shootin’
----
----
--Slight o hand
--Speed Load
--Throwin’ (4)
----Ballanced

Knowledge:  1d4
--Academia (3)
---Occult:    
----
--Area Knowledge: 
----The Black Hills (2)
----
--Demolition
--Disguise
--Language
----English (2)
----Indian Sign Language (1)
--Mad Science
--Medicine
----
Professional
----
----
--Science
----
----
--Trade (3)
----Blackfoot Crafts
----

Mein:  4d6
Animal Wranglin’
----
--Leadership
--Overawe
--Performin’ (2)
----Dancin’
----
--Persuasion
--Tale Tellin’ (2)

Nimbleness      2d12
--Climbin’ (1)
--Dodge (3)
--Drivin’
--Fightin’ (3)
----Tomahawk
----
--Horse Ridin’ (2)
--Sneak (1)
--Swimmin’
--Teamseter

Quickness   3d10
--Quick Draw

Smarts      2d10
--Bluff
--Gamblin’
--Ridicule   
--Scroungin’
--Streetwise
--Survival (3)
----
Tinkerin’

Spirit      2d12
--Faith
--Guts (3)
--
--

Strength:  d8

Vigor:  4d4


Edges: 
(4)  Belongings
(2)  Brave
(1)  Fleet Footed
(1)  Purty
(3)  Two Fisted
(0)  Veteran of the Weird West

Hindrances: 
(3)  Big Britches!
(3)  Ferener’
(1)  Habit:  Underdressed (-1)
(3)  Heroic

Equipment: 
Blessed Tomahawk X2
250

Your Worst Nightmare: 

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Two Indians? Interesting. I'm nearly done hacking together a stubborn Apache shaman girl.

You might want to see if you can get hold of a copy of Ghost Dancers somehow, there's a LOT in there about playing Indian characters. I would be reluctant to play a shaman in a game without it (but the DM has approved it. ;) ).

Blackfoot is an interesting choice for a tribe. Is she down from Canada or are you a Montana Blackfoot? We seem to be starting in Salt Lake City. Might want to add a little about what's bringing you down there to this White's funeral proceedings (or bringing you down there coincidentally, but that seems to be the thing drawing the party together).

Also, blessed weapons looks like something special (Particularly, 'Blessing' is a specific medicine in Ghost Dancers), and like a fast horse or a gun with some kind of bonus value, such things are usually only gotten through the Belongin's edge, which you don't seem to have taken? If you want them to work against Spirits/Monsters with some sort of bonus capability then you're probably looking at 'Spirit Weapon' or something similar and a point or two in Belongin's.

I'm also a little puzzled looking at your Aptitudes. I haven't played Deadlands in forever, so maybe I'm missing a rule somewhere, but I thought Aptitudes were bought from a pool based on the total of your Knowledge + Cognition + Smarts die sizes (which for Stargazer would be 24 points, looks like) but you seem to have nearly 40 points in Aptitudes, plus a bonus point spent on Edges above and beyond the total of your Hindrances (-10 points of Hindrances, 11 points of Edges).

Am I confused about character generation in this regard? Because I haven't played this game in probably close to ten years but I remember there are definitely "math errors" on the sample characters including the text sample character generation 'Ronan'.

Help?

[Muse]

Hm?  I put four points in the Belongings edge, Carny.  A sample level 3 item is "A tomahawk blessed by a powerful Indian shaman."  The cash value example for 4 is 4 times that of 3, so it seemed appropriated enough. 

Every character get's about 5 points of free skills, including 2 in Area Knowledge (Home County) and 1 in Climbin'. 

The other fifteen came from Veteran o' the Wierd West, for which I owe the GM more backstory and grant him license to make my life very, very interesting. 

I don't usually use that when I make deadladns characters--except for really interesting concepts--but this seemed a very short campaign.   

*  *  *

I chose Blackfoot because I meant to base my roll playing off of the book Fool's Crow.  And don't think anyone expects a game like this to be too terribly authentic, but I like to have a good guideline. 

[BraveEarth]

I think you underspent your Aptitude points Given you have the aforementioned 39 levels and I count 41 total without subtracting your given 5. Your edges are off and for Veteran you have the table I have to draw from.
Nine: Insane
This dude’s mind’s not what it once
was. Give him a mental illness from the
mad scientist’s Dementia Table.

1–2 Absent Minded: The scientist tends to forget everything but his work. He might forget
to wear his pants one day or eat raw coffee the next. Whenever he needs to
remember an important detail, he should make a Fair (5) Smarts roll. If he fails, he
can’t remember it.

[Muse]

*laughs*  ooh, fun. 

And thank yuo, I'll fix it. 

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Hm?  I put four points in the Belongings edge, Carny.  A sample level 3 item is "A tomahawk blessed by a powerful Indian shaman."  The cash value example for 4 is 4 times that of 3, so it seemed appropriated enough. 

I have no idea how I missed seeing that.

The other fifteen came from Veteran o' the Wierd West, for which I owe the GM more backstory and grant him license to make my life very, very interesting. 

And I have no idea how I missed seeing that, either! What the heck, eyeballs, wake up...Okay, you can see why, having missed a fifteen-point Edge, I was confused about the point quantity! *Ponders* VotWW is tempting. Very tempting.  But I already got double jokers on the draw. XD Best not tempt fate further!

Still, oh man, 15 points...I have a problem in that my character's 'concept' foundation as it were as a Raven Shaman is VERY expensive (Raven costs double, and to be useful as a shaman it really helps to have at least one ritual at 5, and a 5-point guardian spirit (*COUGH* 10 points for Raven?!) is also crazy useful...It adds up fast so... yeah, kind of leaves very little for the rest of the character. So she's kind of an inexperienced youngster with powerful mojo...And not a lot else.

Makes VotWW look AWFUL tempting. >_>

I chose Blackfoot because I meant to base my roll playing off of the book Fool's Crow.  And don't think anyone expects a game like this to be too terribly authentic, but I like to have a good guideline.

Yeah, I think there are serious limits to how much one can expect as far as cultural authenticity (particularly since Deadlands twists things around a bit) but one can try to at least poke about and make an effort rather than a John Wayne movie cliche'. :) I actually have friends on the Navajo rez and have met a few Apache, so...TINY bit more comfortable trying that! I don't imagine anyone will scream about authenticity, and I can't imagine anyone will be offended so long as you've tried to do a little homework and obviously are not mocking the idea by camping it up with a Hollywood stereotype.

[1SAZ]

Just giving everyone the heads up, I'm still sorting out my character, though I'll be playing a huckster assuming there is no objection. Otherwise, things should be quite interesting.

[Meliai]

Tucking my nowhere-near-complete character sheet in a spoiler here as I need to restart my laptop and can't be bothered to save it as a text file or anything. Feel free to nab the code if you want, I find character sheets are generally mucheasier to read if they're not in one super long column.

Anywho quick questions in regard to aptitudes. Is the number of points in an aptitude the number of dice you roll for that aptitude, or the number of dice you add to the relevant ability's dice pool? There's a good chance my eyes are just jumping straight over the the explanation in the book but as it stands I can't figure it out.

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Xiang Tù "Jackrabbit" Li


Corporeal     

Deftness - 3d8                              ___  Bow ___  Filchin' 1__  Lockpickin' 2__  Shootin'              Pistols ___  Sleight o' Hand 1__  Speed Load ___  Throwin'         ___  ________

Nimbleness - 2d10                            1__  Climbin' 2__  Dodge 1__  Drivin' 1__  Fightin' 2__  Horse Ridin' 2__  Sneak ___  Swimmin' ___  Teamster

Quickness - 2d6 3__  Quick Draw Strength - 2d6                                Vigor - 2d8

Mental

Knowledge - 3d8                          ___  Academia ___  Area Knowledge ___  Demolition ___  Disguise 1__  Language              Chinese ___  Mad Science ___  Medicine ___  Professional 1__  Science              Engineering ___  Trade

Smarts - 2d12                                ___  Bluff ___  Gamblin' ___  Ridicule 1__  Scroungin' 1__  Streetwise 2__  Survival ___  Tinkerin'

Mein - 2d6                                    ___  Animal Wranglin' ___  Leadership ___  Overawe ___  Performin' ___  Persuasion ___  Tale Tellin'

Cognition - 4d12                            ___  Artillery ___  Arts 2__  Scrutinize 3__  Search 2__  Trackin'

Spirit - 3d6                                  ___  Faith 2__  Guts

Pace: 15            Size: 6            Wind: 14          Grit: 0           

Edges:                                         2 - Belongin's (Incredibly fast horse) 1 - Eagle Eyes 5 - Fleet Footed 1 - Gift of Gab 1 - Sense of Direction

Hindrances: 3 - Curious 5 - Night Terrors 2 - Superstitious

Equipment:

Your Worst Nightmare:

Appearance:

Background:

Personality:

[BraveEarth]

NUmber of dice you roll.

[BraveEarth]

So I found a rather excellent dice roller online for the system and after testing it to make sure it isn't too favorable on either side I am presenting it.

http://greywolf.critter.net/deadlands/dieroll.htm

Also want to know how everyone is coming along with their characters.

[Chazy]

This game still open? Been waaaaay too long since I last played Deadlands. And that was table top too.

[BraveEarth]

Yes this game is still open I'm looking for a few more to join just to be on the safe side. I'll get you a draw in a bit.

[Chazy]

Anymore room for another player???

[1SAZ]

Yes this game is still open I'm looking for a few more to join just to be on the safe side. I'll get you a draw in a bit.

Quoted for ease. Yes, there is room.

[Chazy]

Ty. I guess I missed that post. *thwaps self* Anyways, got my draws. Will look into character creation tonight when I get off work.

[Muse]

*Waves*  Are we still doing this, Brave Earth? I'm really excited.  :) 
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[BraveEarth]

We are, Andy dropped out and I'm just waiting on character information and hoping that a few more will come join.

[Chazy]

Grrrr  >:(. I can't find my book anywhere. Damn it.

[Sessha]

 I'm considering joining this and if I did I might bring in a Blessed Priest. *runs off cackling to crack open the old Fire and Brimstone book*

[BraveEarth]

>.> How come no one likes the Rangers or the Agency?

[Sessha]

 Because alot of players don't like being tied to one or the other. They like to go where they please in that reguard.

[Chazy]

I need help creating my character. I can't find my book anywhere. *cries*

[Muse]

Yahoo me,  Chaz, I e got your back 

[BraveEarth]

Okay i need all who are still following this thread to raise their hands if they have completed their characters just because a few had their's up half done

[Chazy]

Still looking for my book. But thinking of playing an ex calvery soldier, possibly a captian, that is now a texas ranger *smiles*. I thought about a huxter and just play a gambling gunslinger but since it has been a long time since I played, I figured it be best to just play a mundane gunslinger/ranger.

[BraveEarth]

Chazy please IM me then so I can discuss a few things with you

[Muse]

Still here. 

was my character approved accept for the math errors? 

[BraveEarth]

Yes it was

[Chazy]

I am still here. Finally found my book. Sent the GM my introduction for my character. Working on the details of the background now. Then I need to make some changes to my character before I send him to the GM for approval.

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Just back in town after massive familial obligation shenanigans that lasted two weeks. Not a death in the family, no, but two people I might murder at this rate...

Anyway, if you are still interested in doing this, BraveEarth, I'm still interested. I don't know how many people are still around? I will try and dig up the notes I took previously on my character and get it done tomorrow or Tuesday. Probably Tuesday as tomorrow will be catchup day at work.

[BraveEarth]

I'm still around it looks like we have 4 maybe 5 all together which works in our favour ^.^ Sadly given the time of year this might be a slow game. I've been obsessing over the system a great deal atleast. I would like one more but I'm not going to hold up the start for that.

[Meliai]

I'm still interested, just didn't want to pour a couple hours into a character when it looked like we weren't going to get enough PCs to pull it off.

Also of someone could take a look at the crunchy bits of my sheet and let me know if she's going to be slaughtered three posts in that'd be great. Like I mentioned before I've never actually played this game and the system itself is honestly really counter-intuitive.

[BraveEarth]

Looks like you underspent your Aptitude Points You spend 1 per level if that was the confusion. If you want to up your survival chances Size is the the key because of how the wound system works. Also keep in mind armor helps soak some of the damage roll as well. Guts is always helpful given that you will see a great deal of Guts Checks in any game. Also the Fightin' Aptitude needs a Concentration. From what I'm reading your character seems to be a tracker sort you may want to look into a Long ranged Pistol or Rifle... 

Also to all listening Smith and Robards is located in The City of Gloom, which is Salt Lake City. So if you want to go shopping for anything esoteric like that you can and not have to wait for shipping. Just throwing that out there.

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

I'm still around it looks like we have 4 maybe 5 all together which works in our favour ^.^ Sadly given the time of year this might be a slow game. I've been obsessing over the system a great deal atleast. I would like one more but I'm not going to hold up the start for that.

Haven't found my notes yet, might have to rebuild from memory.

Wanted to point out that because things usually DO slow down so much around the holidays, it might not be a bad plan to spend December sort of roleplaying the party into a party...Creating cross-connections, backstory, flashbacks and past interactions that bind the characters together beyond 'You have all been given this mission'...And then launch in January?

Just a thought!

[BraveEarth]

I don't mind that idea so long as everyone else doesn't.

[Chazy]

Works for me. Just adjusting my character a bit before resubmitting him for approval.

[BraveEarth]

Alright I am officially done for this semester so anyone needing help with their characters or have questions or suggestions. Please speak up.

[Muse]

Still here, bro. 

Do I know the effects of the blessing on my tomahawks?  Or is it a mystery? 

[BraveEarth]

I'm looking over my relic creation guide and the ghost dancers book and Haven't quite decided yet.

EDIT: Muse given that Carnival is going to be using that Source Book and it gives Indian PC a bit of an edge with some things I would reccommend looking it over. Atleast to gain a Guardian Spirit.

[Chazy]

My appologies folks. My grandmother passed away last friday and that was the final straw with not able to see my kids and getting somewhat depressed during the holiday season, I am sinking into a deep slump. All the drive I have is to just lay down and pray this nightmare will end. I need to shake this melencholy before it consumes me from within. Will have the next three days off so will do my best to catch up then. Thank you for your patience.

[SGTDan]

This still going?

[BraveEarth]

This is still going... Like we discussed elsewhere. Although Holidays may kill it.

[Chazy]

Or slow it down to a stand still till the holidays are over.

[BraveEarth]

Well that stand still could lead to momentum and interest being lost in the game is all.

[Muse]

  Still ready and eager! 

[BraveEarth]

How is everyone doing now that the holidays will soon be winding down?

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Welp, I had to reconstruct this from scratch. Unfortunately, all I could find was my PMs to you, BraveEarth, and none of my earlier scribblings. Somewhere out there is a file with it, but...

Anyway:

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Name: Diehw'-Hashta'al-Ga'ageh (Sparrow She Sings To Raven') (That's probably just "Sparrow" to you, billigana.)
Player: Carnival of the Goat
Occupation: Medicine Woman
Age: 17
Birthday: Mid-Winter
Height: 5'1
Weight: 105
Skin: ruddy bronze
Hair: Black
Eyes: Brown

Grit = 0(1 for Harrowing, due to Ghost Medicine Way)
Pace = 12
Size = 6
Wind = 18

Edges:
Arcane Background (Shaman): 3
Guardian Spirit (Raven): 10
Belongin's (Anointed Paint): 1

Hindrances:
Bloodthirsty: -2
Enemy (Comanche): -3
Illiterate: -3
Stubborn: -2

Favors:
Bless Item (Blessing) (double)...Special.
Pact (Blessing) (double)...Special.
Healing (Earth) (double)...Special.
Shapeshifting (Ghost)...1 AP from spirit gives 90 minutes of Raven form (gear does not come with).
Horned Owl's Fury (War)...2 AP gives wpn +1 die of dmg...Lasts 6 rounds.
Spirit Warrior...(War) Each AP adds 1 lvl to Dodge, Fightin’ or Shootin’ Bow...Lasts 4 hours.
Strength of the Bear...(War) 2 AP gives d10 Strength, 4 AP gives d12+2 Strength...Lasts 6 rounds.
Wilderness Walk (Apache - Does not count against max favors.)...2AP, +8 to Sneakin', impossible to track...Lasts as long as it is concentrated on. Doesn't work within 50' of any inhabited areas/settlements.

Cognition (1d12)
----- Arts: Carvin': 1
----- Ritual (Paint): 3
----- Search: 1 (free)

Deftness (3d6)
----- Shootin' Rifles: 2
-----  Ritual (Sand Painting): 3

Knowledge (4d8)
----- Area Knowledge (Apache County, AZ): 2 (free)
----- Language (Athabaskan(Jicarilla Apache)): Native (free)
----- Language (English): 1
----- Language (Indian Sign): 1
----- Medicine (General): 1
----- Tribal Customs (Apache): 1 (free)

Mien (2d6)
----- Performin' (Drummin): 1

Nimbleness (3d12)
----- Climbin': 1 (free)
----- Dodge: 1
----- Fightin' (Tomahawk): 4
----- Horse Ridin': 1
----- Ritual (Dance): 5
----- Sneak: 1 (free)

Quickness (2d6)

Smarts (1d12)
----- Survival: 1

Spirit (4d12)
----- Faith: 1
----- Guts: 2
----- Ritual (Spirit Song): 5 (free with 5-point Guardian Spirit)

Strength (4d6)

Vigor (4d6)

Gear: Horse, Blanket, Winchester '73 Rifle, 100 rds ammo, Tomahawk (Stone Head), Buckskin chaps (Armor -2), Hide Shield (+1 die to Dodge), Coup Stick, Fancy dress shirt, Moccasins, Duster, Jackknife, Anointed Paint, Pouch of Tobacco, Pouch of Salt, Drum, Medicine Bundle, $22.35 in Union money.

Sparrow has been effectively made unwelcome in Apache lands...Not cast out, but certainly not loved...Due to her mother's participation in the Raven Cult. Worked as an Indian Scout for the Confederates and possibly for some bounty hunters. Northern Utah Territory isn't Apache country, but its southern end fringes on Apache and Navajo territory, and the Navajo are relatively Apache friendly as the Apache fight some of their battles for them. Sparrow could easily be tied to the party due to a vision (one nice thing about visions, they can be pretty damned arbitrary! If Raven said 'Find such and such a bunch of whites and help them, well...There you go!) She does not have Kemosabe, hates sleeping in town, drums at odd hours of the night and early morning, and her English is poor. The neighbors will love her. Honest.

Edit: Tweaked her possessions a little, on reflection. Still very much a work in progress! Need to hammer on her background, her fear, etc.

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

P.S. Muse, do you still need help with Ghost Dancers? I PMed you, sorry about the delay.

[Chazy]

well, I am still dealing with the holiday blues. With my grandmother dieing, not able to see my kids, and getting sick over the holidays.......I think I am good considering. Still alive at least.

[CarnivalOfTheGoat]

Very sorry to hear, Chazy. Hope that things look up for you soon.

[Muse]

  Carny is helping me out, but I'm away from my computer 'til friday.