Roman Campaign: Pathfinder (Interest)

[swordwind]

I keep getting e-mails asking if I'm ok so I figured I'd stop on by and try to run a game. Here is what I've been messing around with.

Roman Campaign: The Shadows within the Empire

Welcome to my Roman campaign. Here you’ll get to experience the glory of the Roman Empire in a unique setting.  From coming to face the might savage warriors of the barbarian tribes, maneuver the dangerous political pathways, and come face to face with your own possible demise, anything can happen.   

All of you will be united in the common goal of making your house rise to power. The name of that house is TBA. (Still need to get its name.)   But each of you can have your own personal goal, a dream or desire that you would like to accomplish.  This goal can even go against the rise of your house. But let’s avoid any inter-party conflict, unless it’s cool. I will need this goal before I can move forwards with my campaign. So think someone up and submit it to me. So I'm looking for one person to be an aspiring noble or political player. 

The World:
Due to my limited research of the time period, and my lack of resource books……I can give you the following. Rome, Gauls, Greeks, misc barbarian tribes, and some eastern nations will exist within my world and could cause you to go to great lengths to meet with them.  But you will all start within the Roman Empire. Romans are a religious nation with a very strong military. In my world this is amplified by the outlawing of all magic items.

This includes wondrous times, magic armor and shields, alchemical goods, and ioun stones.   

Mages are exiled or killed as soon as they are discovered and magic not granted by the gods is considered heresy.  All romans take this very seriously as they don’t wish to displeasure their gods.  The barbarians are more shamanistic and understand magic is a wild thing and sometimes can be controlled. They believe in primal magic. So their warriors show this on the field and in their tribes. Greeks understand magic, use it to improve their social standings, and use it in war when needed. The eastern nations also enjoy magic but they believe it is dangerous and avoid its usage if they can. They believe in practical sciences over magic. 

Restrictions: 
Due to the time period some things will not exist in my world. Here is a list, based on where you’re from and the nation it is in. 
In game terms:

The world: No ninja’s, samurai, summoner, or gunslingers.  No wondrous items in any market (unless I say otherwise), or magic items. Wands, Scrolls, potions, do exist though. 

Romans: Paladin, Clerics, Inquisitors, Oracles are power people in this part of the world. Wizards, sorcerers, alchemists, witches, magus’s are exiled or killed if found within city walls. 
Barbarians: Very shamanic so Druids, rangers, barbarians, oracles, witches, are powerful in the world. Wizards, alchemist, and magus’s are killed or viewed with high dislike.   
Greeks:  Wizards, alchemists, maguses, monks are strong people in this land. Druids, witches, sorcerers, barbarians are frowned upon
Eastern Nations: Wizards, alchemists, maguses are strong people in this land. Druids, witches, sorcerers, barbarians are frowned upon
Armor and weapon rules:
We are playing in the Bronze Age so I need all of you to learn the bronze rules for weapons and armor. Located here:  http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/special-materials#TOC-Bronze
Rapiers, Asian/eastern weapons, heavy armor just doesn’t exist. All versions of lamellar armor exist, along with splint and banded mail. Bronze age weapons exist on the table for bronze age weapons.

Gaining Magic: Magical items are extremely rare and only can be gained by accomplished people of merit. So for you people you get to pray for your magic. 
Temple System: 
As romans are a religious group of people the gods favor them for their praise with limited magical assistance from time to time. So to gain an enhancement to your gear you spend time praying and donating goods to a local temple.  This will allow you to gain a magical enhancement with a catch for you to remain loyal to Rome and its gods.
In game terms: 65% of total pricing for a magic bonus for weapons and armor and rings.
Sidenote:  Other nations and other gods will also follow this ruling. 
Wondrous items:  Toss them out the window.         

Character Creation: 
Name: 
Nation: (Where you from?)
Deity: (Everyone follows some god)
Weapons and Armor:  You can start with magic armor, weapons, rings, alchemical items, and basic gear. If you decide to have magic I need to know the god your following and how you upkeep your tithe to the temple. 
Background: 
Overall Goal in life: (What drives you to do what you do?)
Minor goals in life:  (What would you like to do before you meet the gods?)
3000gp starting wealth
2 traits
25 pts buy. 

Race rules:  During this timeframe everyone really doesn’t get along with other races. So NPCs act a particular way when around you. And your social standing can be impacted because of this.
Human: No issues with any other humans. Your nation and speech will come into effect when you travel to other lands and nations. 
Dwarves: You’re a midget and people view you as such.  Follow the same rules as humans. 
Elf:  Everyone hates you save barbarians. Barbarian’s tribes respect you.
Gnomes:  Midget that is good at repairing things. Viewed more like a slave race to everyone save the eastern nations. 
Half-elves: Viewed as humans as long as they appear to look like one, otherwise viewed as elves. 
Halflings: Viewed as human children unless found out, then viewed as slaves. 
Half-orcs: Romans & Greek’s hate them. Barbarians love them. Eastern Nations concerned about them. 

Aasimars, Dhampir, Fetchling, sylph, Tiefling, Undine, Oread, ifrit, Changeling, suli, kitsune, vishkanya: Strike fear or awe into other races and nations based on how they interact with people.  Eastern nations are more open to not care about you. Barbarians will want to kill you or follow you based on your skills. Romans and Greek’s will want to outright murder you unless your protected by a house, or are an ambassador.

Catfolk, Drow, Goblin, Hobgoblin, kobold, orc, ratfolk, tengu, grippli, merfolk, nagaji, samasran, strix, vanara: Go crawl under a rock and hide. 

Game Starting: TBA

Character knowledge: Mainly is based on where you come from. The world is in a setting of general peace with skirmishes happening at the borders and weaker towns are normal taken over or burned to the ground. Your starting city is Acci, a decently sized port city ontop of a hill overlooking the Rems Sea. Acci has trade dealings with Greek’s on the other side. You ship out stone from the quarry and import lumber. They worship Neptune primarily, and a host of other roman gods.   

Your house is located just outside of the city and is in disrepair. Your lord has sent multiple requests to improve his standings but nothing has been received.  With the local magistrate not answering your calls your patrician has decided to seek aid in a nearby coastal city of Burrium for a chance to collect the needed funds to improve his home. 

[MrBubbles]

This is amazing, but I've just got to ask; what level are we starting at? The wealth suggests 3rd, but given the lack (or rarity) of magic items it could possibly be more or less.

Also how do you feel about the Hybrid Classes? Things like the Hunter, Shaman, Brawler (especially Brawler, I'm feeling that for this campaign) or Warpriest?

[swordwind]

Thank you MrBubbles.

To answer your question the advanced book didn't exist when I had the idea in my head. But I wouldn't have any issues with those classes.(Played a few of them. Brawler was always something I thought could be cool.) Also when it comes to magical items I said you couldn't buy them locally. But you can start with them. So 3k is still the starting amount. Money can be spent on things other then combative items. Just give a reason why that fits into the setting.

[Morganatic]

How far east do the Eastern nations go? Considering some sort of character who's come across on the fantasy equivalent of the Silk Road, probably from Persia/Bactria somewhere. Depending on what era of Rome you're looking at, there's a whole lot of trade going on between the Empire and Central Asia during that time, and lots of interesting possibilities for weird syncretic religions and philosophies being brought in to the Tellus Mater, ideally with some Zoroastrianism and similar motifs thrown in. It's an interesting period of cultural contact, and I can definitely see the historicity of a representative - trade, political, cultural, or religious - getting posted (or stuck) with a Roman house (there's a whole bunch of Persians hanging around in the later Roman empire, like Surena, the Parthian ambassador), but it seems like the Shadows within the Empire Romans are a bit different? Rules-wise, Herodotus wrote a bunch about the asceticism, aversion to lying, and archery skills of the Bactrian and Zoroastrian people he met, so Zen Archer monk might fit the bill for being something that the Western nations are aware of, but is just a little bit different ... maybe aasimar as well, to just underline that 'like us, but not quite like us' feel. Would that be OK?

Echoing MrBubbles in saying this sounds interesting!

[MrBubbles]

Thank you MrBubbles.

To answer your question the advanced book didn't exist when I had the idea in my head. But I wouldn't have any issues with those classes.(Played a few of them. Brawler was always something I thought could be cool.) Also when it comes to magical items I said you couldn't buy them locally. But you can start with them. So 3k is still the starting amount. Money can be spent on things other then combative items. Just give a reason why that fits into the setting.

Awesome! The Hybrid classes really do feel like they'd be right at home in a Roman campaign, what with Brawlers pretty much being wrestlers and Warpriests fitting right in as Aquilifers.

However I'm still curious as to what level the campaign starts at, since there can be big differences in character design if the campaign starts at level 5 rather than level 1.

[Chulanowa]

I'm kind of interested, but... some things seem kind of rough.

We're starting in Rome... So.. are arcane classes and nonhuman races allowed, or not? Do they have to be "undercover" or something? How does that work?

[swordwind]

Morganatic: I could see that working.  I know that Romans had quite the interest in other cultures. So maybe. Just remember the race plays a part in the world. So come up with a reason people will respect you.

Chulanowa: You can be a non-human race. Just make sure you cover the reason why you are in the country. You could even be a slave.

MrBubbles: I didn't notice that I didn't have the level in their. You're all level 3

[kckolbe]

Wow!  This seems really cool.  I love to see a real setting. 

My only question is that since the Romans kind of wanted the Greeks to adopt their life as opposed to force their compliance, might they have been kinder to Greek casters?

Thinking of playing a Roman bard masquerading as a cleric.

[Chulanowa]

yeah, the romans were really big on assimilation, in an extortionist sorta way - "Real nice culture yewz gots here. yup. be a real shame if sommat wuz ta happen to it, yuknowuddimean?"... and really pathfinder assumes the presence of arcane magic for its balancing. i guess it depends on what sort of encounters you're looking at, though

[Foxfyr]

If you're looking to play an arcane caster in disguise, the false priest archetype for the sorcerer seems like a perfect fit for this situation. Ante  up on it by giving them a celestial bloodline and they would likely do very well at disguising their arcane power as divine.

I am personally looking into submitting a Warpriest character. We will see what sort of inspiration I can come up with. :)

[MrBubbles]

Wow!  This seems really cool.  I love to see a real setting. 

My only question is that since the Romans kind of wanted the Greeks to adopt their life as opposed to force their compliance, might they have been kinder to Greek casters?

Thinking of playing a Roman bard masquerading as a cleric.

Actually it was the other way around; Romans were enamored with Hellenistic culture and considered it the proper way for a civilized people to live. By the 1st century BC it was considered a must for every rich young man to both study in Greece (specifically Athens or Rhodes) and learn to speak Greek as well as Latin. In fact, I distinctly remember a note written back in the 1st century AD (from a book of primary sources dealing with the Empire) that specified the ideal wet nurse is of Greek origin, as she would speak to the babe in Greek and thus teach it (and I'm trying to quote it exactly here) the "true, great language."

Sure there were Greeks and Romans who despised each other and wanted nothing to do with the other's culture (Cato the Elder comes to mind,) but the Romans were absolutely fans of Greek culture (and Etruscan, which is where they acquired a taste for gladiatorial games.)

[kckolbe]

Very true, worded it poorly.  If you look at how Roman Mythology is just Greek renamed, especially.  But my point stands.  If mages were popular in Greece, then the Romans wouldn't be *too* antagonistic toward them.

[MrBubbles]

Oh, another question; how are you calculating health?

[swordwind]

Health will be average or you can roll it.

[kckolbe]

Leaning more toward Arcanist.  If I go with the White Mage archtype, I can occasionally cast a cure spell, which will help with the masquerade.  Now all he has to do is make up a minor, obscure god that he "prays to" for his powers, and he'll be set.

[D12]

Eeeheheehe. So much interest!  ;D

I've been looking for a roman / greek / bronze age game for a while; and the mute oracle I have in mind bares a lot of sideboob so setting on E is a bonus!

Gonna be a mute oracle...

What's the gods, just the roman pantheon? Plan is to go with Selene.

[Chulanowa]

I'll brainstorm something at work!

just... anything other than another goddamned Paladin.

[swordwind]

I do require a person to be the head of the house for ease of play and direction. But if you prefer to have a NPC be the head of the house that is fine. Just had to ask that question.

[kckolbe]

*Willing* to be head of house, but since my char already has a goal and a secret, I feel like he works best as a family member to the head of house.

[Foxfyr]

My character might be a good candidate to head the noble house. I am making him well-rounded rather than a specialized social savant, but I should still be able to fill the role well enough.

I am going with a Warpriest using the Forgepriest archetype who worships Vulcan since that just fits together so well. I am a suing Vulcan's weapon is the Warhammer and that Strength is one of his domains. Seeing as my character both worships Vulcan and his class gives him Craft Magic Weapons and Armor, what would it take for him to enchant his hammer and/or shield as +1?

[D12]

My character is set to be a support healer / enchanter; and also a deaf mute (deaf oracle curse) So probably a bad candidate for house lead all together.

I'm kind of digging the fact that Deaf oracles get Silent Spell added to all their spells free, and that Command, Forbid Action & Murderous Command all only have Verbal Components.

My Oracle can compel someone to murder their friend just by looking at them.  >:)

[MrBubbles]

My character's shaping up to be a melee combatant, so nothing in the way of social skills besides the basics, so he'd probably be a poor candidate for patriarch. He's going to be a retired wrestler once known as "The Bronze Colossus" due to his size and strength, but he's definitely softened with years of leisure. Currently he's a brawler, but he*could* be made into a Phalanx Fighter for extra AC and immediate bonuses to damage, but making a standard land-owning Hoplite feels a bit on the safe side.

[Pockets]

Possibly interested, would you be opposed to a permutation of the Arcane Archer? One that requires Divine Casting instead of Arcane casting?

[kckolbe]

That sounds like a really good idea Pockets.  also from a selfish perspective it makes my character a little less suspicious since there will already be another member of the House who practices his or her face in a slightly uncommon way.

in fact it seems that there will be a lot of divine casting in this group so my characters shouldn't really stand out at all as long as he doesn't cost anything to uncleric-y. 

it looks like I'm going to go back to playing a bard since the skills will come in handy Plus that seems an easier character to pull off the illusion with with his higher charisma and more spells in common with clerics.

if Loki decides he doesn't want to be the head of house then my character should be able to fit that role.

[RubySlippers]

Wow, okay thinking about a few ideas I take it Rogues are widely a common class being so flexible. And noble house is not the only path to power I'm thinking merchant house rising in some land who can buy power. Who cares about titles when you can fund three armies on your own if needed. (someday)

[Pockets]

On a side note, Druids, Hunters, and Rangers might be the Clergy of some of the more nature oriented gods like Demeter and Artemis. (Their roman names elude me at the moment.)

[RubySlippers]

Update, I'm thinking of being a Sibyl and a Priestess of Luna - Goddess of the Moon. And will be a Rogue 2/Oracle 1 with her pronouncements and oracles given well designed BS that can have multiple interpretations based on how they are read and might not take place for a long time.

[Morganatic]

Hmm, I might back out of this - I've been thinking about how a βαρβαρος would fit into a Roman house campaign, and it might be a little tricky. Anyway, have fun y'all! :D

[Foxfyr]

Character Sheet
Name: Aldrick
Nation: Roman
Deity: Vulcan
Weapon & Armor: Breastplate with light shield and a +1 warhammer.  If possible, I imagine his tithe to the Vulcan temple would be through donated masterwork items of his own make for them to do with as they deem necessary.
Background: Despite his upbringing as a minor noble, Aldrick was taught the importance of hard work and the rewards one can attain from such endeavors.  Perhaps it was a result of being so far from the aristocracy from the Roman capital or the way local government seemed to always put the needs of his kin as a lower priority, but Aldrick is surprisingly self-sufficient by noble standards.  While he is no stranger to social gatherings of the aristocracy or other political matters, he has found that his true passion lies in the forge.    It is there that he meditates and pays homage to Vulcan amongst the smell of burning charcoal and the rhythmic pinging of metal striking metal.

It had almost been a year since his father had died unexpectedly, leaving him as the oldest of his siblings to inherit the mantle of patriarch to his house.  The past several months had passed and it would seem that much of what little influence his house had with the local government had died with his father.  An unfortunate turn of events as a severe storm had rendered his house in a state of disrepair and the magistrate seems to be taking his time in fulfilling his request for aid.  It has finally come to a point where Aldrick decided that matters could wait no longer seeing as his estate was a reflection of his authority.  It was time for him to take matters in his own hands.
Overall Goal in Life: To make his house the foremost in power and influence within the Roman Empire.
Minor Goal in Life: To master his skills at the forge to a point where Vulcan would personally imbue his works with the power of the gods.

[kckolbe]

Kinda looks like Rob Lowe.  Looks good, though, mind if my char is his younger brother, just one or two years?

[Foxfyr]

Sounds great to me, it would be fun to have familial ties with this campaign.  :-)

[swordwind]

Loki: I like your character and the idea behind him. Should work just fine.

Pockets: I wouldn't want to have to customize a class. So I'd say no.

[Pockets]

I will withdraw at this time then.

[kckolbe]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=145633

Name: Hadrian
Nation: Roman
Deity: Trivia; pretends to worship made-up minor deity Nihes
Weapons and Armor: Longsword and light shield, chain shirt
Background: As most sons of higher status, Hadrian had the benefit of a proper education and tutoring at combat, the latter aided by his older and more combat-inclined brother, Aldrick.  He has never been his brother's equal in combat, but that was hardly something to be embarrassed by.  Hadrian is still an above-average fighter.  His keen mind and trustworthy appearance led him to the discovery of the ultimate taboo in Roman law: arcane.  Hadrian was instantly fascinated by it and decided he must learn more at all costs. 

Being the second son to an already pious House, Hadrian was sent to the temples to study the divine, and he impressed many of the devout with his knowledge of the gods, as they were unaware that his thirst for knowledge of the gods was not to better serve them, but to hide his true calling.  He surprised few when he announced his devotion to Nihes (NIE-hees), a minor god of research.  This god was heretofore unknown among the clerics of Rome, and Hadrian claimed that the god made his existence known to him during a night of study.  He then explained that it was important to ensure that all gods received special attention, and given his natural charm (perhaps the only clear advantage Hadrian had over his brother), his explanation was met with praise.  In truth, he offers minor prayers to Trivia.

It had almost been a year since his father had died unexpectedly, leaving Aldrick to inherit the mantle of patriarch to his house.  The past several months had passed and it would seem that much of the attention his house had received from the local government had died with his father, leaving Hadrian with more freedom to pursue his real studies.
Overall Goal in Life: Fascination with magic, real magic.  Not a borrowing of some power from the gods, but the real thing.  Ideally, he wants magic to become sanctioned in Rome, but he dares not overtly support such a cause for fear of drawing suspicion.
Minor Goal in Life: Hadrian knows his duties to his House, knowing that its increased influence means more influence and resources for him.

[D12]

Question: Are there local languages in addition to the Common Tongue? Gaulish, Greek, etc?

[D12]

Image, warning, slight nsfw

Sheet
Name: Junia Lunae
Nation: Rome
Deity: Luna
Equipment: +1 Bronze Dagger, 6 Potions of Cure Light Wounds, Anointing Oil
Maintaining Tithe: Professional Priestess of Luna
Background
Junia was born at night. She was a difficult child, owing to the fact that she was born deaf. Her parents failed to discover this for the first three years of Junia's life, and in truth it wasn't her parents who discovered Junia's deafness at all. At three years old Junia still couldn't speak, and was 'diagnosed' with Lunacy. Her parents brought her to the temple of Luna to pray for a cure, and it was there that the priests of Luna who discovered that Junia was not afflicted with Lunacy but was cursed with deafness. Her own family was ill-equipped for the struggle of raising a deaf child and 'donated' Junia to the temple of Luna.

From the age of three on Junia was raised by the temple of Luna in place of her family. She has never learned to speak properly, but her keen mind has enabled her to learn to reads the lips of others fairly effectively and she is able to understand the language of both true romans, ancient Greeks, and the northern barbarians.
Major Goals:
Personal: Become the high priestess and / or avatar of the Goddess Luna.
Professional: Spread the worship of the Goddess Luna and improve her church's standing within Roman culture.
Lofty: Create a permanent lunar eclipse to replace the sun in the sky with the moon.

Minor Goals:
Personal: See the world. Junia has never traveled far beyond the city, and even within the city seldom travels outside the influence of the temple of Luna.
Professional: Spread knowledge of the Goddess Luna; inflict awe and / or fear of her power in the peasantry.

[RubySlippers]

Question: Are there local languages in addition to the Common Tongue? Gaulish, Greek, etc?

Greek is the big international language, Gaulish would cover the major number of Barbarians and not sure after that.

[D12]

Greek is the big international language, Gaulish would cover the major number of Barbarians and not sure after that.

Yeah. I just wonder, are we say Greek = Common Tongue? We all automatically speak Greek as 'Common'? Or do we speak Roman / Latin / whatever?
Or does it not even matter?

[RubySlippers]

Even in Rome most commerce was done in Greek, academic and official documents were in Latin and it was the Roman language. Educated people though knew Greek it was to vital a language not to know.

[Chulanowa]

Greek is the big international language, Gaulish would cover the major number of Barbarians and not sure after that.

Greek would indeed be the "common tongue" - it dominated Greece and the Balkan region of course, but also Egypt under the Ptolemies, and shared equal status with Persian in Seleucid territories. The Greek alphabet was the common writing system across non-Latin Europe, from the Slavs in the east, all the way to the Belgae and Celtiberians in the west (though they spoke their own languages.) Even the Romans considered it a trade language and language of the learned.

Phoenician would probably be the second-most widespread language after greek, being a major trade language. Carthaginian influence spread it around hte Western Mediterranean, south into Africa, plus of course its homeland in the levant (where it remained a spoken language using hte Latin Alphabet until the 7th century or so.) Among the Romans themselves, it would of course be third, after Latin and Greek (you probably didn't want to speak Phoenician after the Punic wars...)

There were several Celtic languages, which can roughly be divided into three relevant continental groups - Gaulish (In France, Italy, and Switzerland), Celtiberian (in Celtic Iberia, of course) and Noric (southern Germania and central-eastern Europe.)

other relatively common languages of the period and area would be Illyrian, Dacian / Thracian, Late Kemetic, and Persian.

"Rare" languages would be Germanic, Slavic, the remaining Celtic languages (galatian, Lepontic, belgian, breton), Etruscan, Paleohispanic languages (Iberian, Basque), Old kemetic, Hebrew, and the Berber languages. These might all be less rare among long-lived races from these regions, elves and such.

Which brings a question - are there "racial languages"? How deep into "fantasy history" are we going here, are there Elvish nations beyond italia? Was Sicily a gnomish holding until its capture by Carthage, then Rome? Are Carthaginians Dwarves?

[Muse]

 Is it too late to express interest? 

  I confess I loved this idea when I first saw it.  Then idea of a group as cosmopolitan and known for their ingenuity as the Romans having a superstitious backlash against the science of arcane magic struck me as so dissonant to the setting I thought I was going to find everything else rang equally false.  Looking back over I see it's just a weird quirk to a setting otherwise showing promise of verisimilitude.  It'll probably turn out to be a plot point. 

[swordwind]

I've no deadline for interest takers Muse.  But I'll send a PM or two in a day or so to the people I like.

Which brings a question - are there "racial languages"?
Yes.

How deep into "fantasy history" are we going here, are there Elvish nations beyond italia?
No. Other races exist but not in large numbers. Maybe deep in the woods. Half-breeds are not uncommon.

Was Sicily a gnomish holding until its capture by Carthage, then Rome?
Of course.....not. Gnomes are more or less midgets to everyone.

Are Carthaginians Dwarves?
No. Good idea now that I think of it though.

[kckolbe]

I have to wait a day or two?!  I can't stand the suspense!

[Chulanowa]

So here's a quick question. Any way I could treat the falcata as a martial weapon rather than exotic? The character i'm planning comes form Iberia, and I'm figuring, the falcata was invented and used extensively there, they wouldn't see it as "exotic."

[Muse]

Name: Aoiffe
Nation: Gaul
Deity: Gaulic Pantheon
Weapons and Armor: +1 Silver Sickle (With Master's permission.) 
Background: Aoiffe grew up in Gaul, apprentice to a Epona--one of the Learned (a druid.)  Though Epona was a keeper of peace among the Gaulish tribes, she did not believe anyone should be unable to defend themselves.  She taught her student to defend herself with staff, dagger, and sickle. 

When Aoiffe's home town fell to the Romans, she defeated three soldiers before the Centurion subdued her.  Impressed by her beauty and strength, the Centurion sold her--and her teacher's silver sickle--to an arena.  Aoiffe was forced to fight other women to the death as an amazone gladiator.  Her only greater horror than dying in the arena was wondering whom she would be next forced to murder. 

Something about her touched the heart of a rich man named Hadrian, and he purchased her away from the arena to serve as his servant and concubine.  Hadrian quickly won her loyalty--first out of gratitdue and masculine prowess, but she quickly came to love his inteligence and artistiry for his own sake.  She even pledged to wield her teacher's sickle for his defense and in his service, so long as he didn't ask her to murder. 

Overall Goal in Life: Repay Hadrian for saving her by being a loyal and loving slave girl, and helping him acomplish his goals. 
Minor Goal in Life: Maintain her duties to the gods of Gaul, keep history alive, and become a spiritual teacher as best as she can in her new roll in life. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ve2W1vsizw_wVsAWDoUU5EICzFlwhKpViIs7FBS9vU/edit

[swordwind]

Chulanowa: Ok. I'll allow it. But that weapon isn't from rome so I hope you get a blacksmith and untold skills to make more for you......

[Chulanowa]

Shouldn't be a problem - it's a simple weapon design that is pretty common around Rome (in fact, Romans were the weirdoes, with their straight-edged blades. Freaks.) Besides, you're not gonna go aroudn sundering weapons left and right, i'm sure  :D

[RubySlippers]

I wanted to note Greeks were deemed citizens of the Empire maybe under natives, but largely assimilated, so unless a slave you would be well regarded unless an arcane user.

[Foxfyr]

Shouldn't be a problem - it's a simple weapon design that is pretty common around Rome (in fact, Romans were the weirdoes, with their straight-edged blades. Freaks.) Besides, you're not gonna go aroudn sundering weapons left and right, i'm sure  :D

This is the bronze age, roll a 1 and the thing is broken. Roll another and it is destroyed if I recall correctly.

[RubySlippers]

Here is  my character a passing burglar and serious charlatan who is a Sybil. Well a seriously good bullshit artist giving her "divine insights" to those seeking her "counsel" for donations. Think a modern psychic sort using a lot more show and some basics of the profession to look good. LOL

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=148024

I figure she would be the guest of the house until she arranges her own place nearby to give seekers attention for donations.

Of course as a Rogue she has other skills just in case.  ;D

Yes you can have two Archetypes if they don't share changed or altered features.

[Muse]

This is the bronze age, roll a 1 and the thing is broken. Roll another and it is destroyed if I recall correctly.

I beleive it said masterwork and magical items were exempt though? 

[Chulanowa]

Yup, masterwork weapons and armor lack the fragile qualities.

of course, it's maybe easier to just point out that Rome is well into the iron age, and uses steel for pretty much all their equipment (arrow and spearheads being a notable exception, sicne htye're disposable and mass-produced...) as did all their neighbors.

Can't make a lorica hamata out of bronze, after all!

[D12]

Clearly all these non-human races running about are slowing down the technological advancement of glorious Rome.

The moon demands we cleanse the lands.  :D

[Chulanowa]

Name: Alize Etexo
Nationality: Roman
Ethnicity: Iberian
Race: Human
Class: Swashbuckler 3
Gender: Female
Deity: Whoever needs praying to!
Sheet: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=146822

   Alize was born on the sea, or at least close enough to count; her father was a merchant out of Ecci, her mother a Iacetani he had taken a fancy to keeping aboard his vessel (so to speak.) The sea, her barbarian blood, and her fathers' mercenary ways would come to form the girl's future quite easily. By the time she was twelve, her mother had taught her where to stab a man who was causing  problem. By sixteen, her skill with the rigging and book keeping had her in her fathers' good graces.
   of course, Ruio had plans to just marry her off, like any other asset in his ledger. The trouble with that was that he didn't want his daughter marrying some savage Hispanian, or - gods forbid! - a Phoenician or Gaul! ...But the 'proper Romans" he envisioned for her future never appeared. Evidently a half-barbarian girl who could put some legionnaires to shame wasn't seen as worth the trouble. Unable to recoup his "losses" (i.e., the years he had spent raising a daughter) he suggested she find some way to put her talents to use.
   He probably didn't have piracy in mind, of course. Oh it started innocently enough, she offered her blades to another captain to fend off pirates, and amused by the notion of a girl claiming to be a soldier, he took her on. This didn't end well when plunderers swept off from the Sicilian coast. Well, it didn't end well for the pirates. A few tips like this helped Alize hone her skill and get real practice... but also exposed her to the waveswept life of sailors, full of wine, song, brawling, and whoring.
   It wasn't long before the lure of greater profits drew her to a new ship, a new captain, and a lot of risks to her neck. It was a wild time, and the Greek and Carthaginian traders her crewmates plundered rarely gave up without a fight.
   Though they tried to steer away from Roman cargoes, as such ships were dangerous sport indeed, it happened on occasion. One of those times, the ship yielded after a brief skirmish and - rather unbelievably - the two captains shared drink and stories! Whether one had been a former partner or the other a former pirate didn't seem to matter... and though Alize had been propositioned plenty of times before, it had never been with a job offer!
   She now plies her trades - the art of the blade, a passing grasp of most languages, and solid knowledge of ships - in the employ of a noble house in ecci.

   Overall Goals: Maybe it's cliche, but Alize craves adventure. She's an explorer and wants to see new lands, learn new tongues, share wine with Scythian and Meroe alike, and keep their sons and daughters awake at night. She has an overwhelming lust for life, and wants to seize as much of it as she can as soon as she can.

   Minor goals: ...But as they say, while in rome... She knows she needs better social graces, at least as the Romans reckon them. Especially if she's going to be taking hte silver of a noble house (through pay, rather than tipping over their dining cabinets.) She's not willing to let her combat skills sit idle, though, and often seeks out someone to test them against. part of her wants to "beat" her father in the merchant game... but she knows she has neither the patience or skills for that. yet.

[D12]

I've been looking through some of the other applications and, I hope this isn't out of line, but I have questions:

Loki Aesir: How do you have so much HP? I thought we were doing average or roll; are we still getting max for Level 1 or did you roll? 8+4+4+3+3 = 22 (1st+2nd+3rd+Con+FCB)?
You're having 'crafted' most of that stuff right, so you're paying half-price?
Can you have weapon focus in a shield? It's not a weapon. I know you can attack with it but it seems like; I'm pretty sure you can't have Weapon Focus in claws since they're not a weapon (they're a natural attack).
What're you calling Vulcan's Favored Weapon? Are you saying it's the Warhammer?
Since Masterwork bonuses and Magic bonuses to Attack don't stack, I'm a little confused as how you have a +7 to hit with the Warhammer. My math has it at 2+3+1 (BAB+STR+Magic)

kckolbe: How do you have so much HP? I thought we were doing average or roll; are we still getting max for Level 1 or did you roll? 8+4+4+3+3 = 22 (1st+2nd+3rd+Con+FCB) ?
I think you should only have 1 Bonus Spell for First Level with 18 Charisma. (Probably just shuffled your stats, I did the same thing a number of times)

Muse : Am I doing the math wrong here or something? Warpriests, Bards and Druids have d8 as their HD. If you have a d8 as you HD and +1 Con, 22HP is as high as you can get without rolling; and that's assuming we're getting full health for First Level. (And I didn't include full health for First Level on my own sheet, and she could really use it.)
Are we using third party? Isn't Open Minded a Psionics Unleashed feat? I don't think it uses Psionics iirc but I thought I'd ask.

RubySlippers: I'm not actually sure about that archetype thing, but that's not my call to make.
There is no Cure Minor Wounds spell in Pathfinder like there is in 3.5. As far as I know, there's Virtue but no Zero-Level spell that restores HP.
Are we allowed to take a drawback for an extra trait? I took Mute for the sake of flavor but if I can get an exta trait for it…

Chulanowa: Swashbucklers also have d8 as HD. Are there a bunch of rolls I'm not seeing here?
Shouldn't your daggers & chainshirt be fragile & bronze?

Ya'll do please look at my sheet too. I'm sure there's something somewhere I missed or messed up or could be made better. I've never made a Deaf oracle before and I feel like I missed or misread something somewhere regarding HP and really should read up on the hybrid classes more.

General discussion: are the hybrid classes any good? I made a Warpriest once but the game fell through and I never got to play him. They seem… niche-y.

[Muse]

  Swashbucklers have d10 hit dice and full base attack, Dee, unless you're talking about the rogue archetype instead of the Advanced Class Guide swashbuckler. 

  Let me look at my hit points again.  Maybe I rolled. 

[D12]

I may have been looking at the wrong Swashbuckler entry.
In my defense, who's bright idea was it to create a class with the same name as an archetype anyway?

[Muse]

Okay, 24 hit points looks right to me. 

1st hit dice 8
2nd 5
3rd 5 
Because the mean result of 1-8 is 5.  (0-8 is 4.5, but you can't get a 0  on the dice.  If the GM prefers I do it that way I can.) 

So that makes 18. 
Constitution +3 =21
Favored class bonus +3=24.  (Or 23 if we do the average dice rolls the other way.) 

Open minded is indeed from Dreamscarred Press.  (It's not a psionic feat, but it's an upgrade of a feat from the Expanded Psionic Handbook so they got to update it.) 

If the GM doesn't like it I'll manage without 3 skills somewhere and get something more useful in combat. 

[Muse]

Oh, and full health at first level is standard for pathfinder, D.  The GM is of course free to say do it otherwise but I didn't see anything that said we were doing it differently. 

[D12]

Okay so that's what I was doing wrong, rounding to 4 instead of 5.
Good to know since Oracles (my character) also have d8 as their HD.
We are getting full health for first level? I know it's standard for PF when you're starting at first level, but I didn't know if; because we were starting at 3rd, we just went with average.

[Foxfyr]

I've been looking through some of the other applications and, I hope this isn't out of line, but I have questions:

Loki Aesir: How do you have so much HP? I thought we were doing average or roll; are we still getting max for Level 1 or did you roll? 8+4+4+3+3 = 22 (1st+2nd+3rd+Con+FCB)?
You're having 'crafted' most of that stuff right, so you're paying half-price?
Can you have weapon focus in a shield? It's not a weapon. I know you can attack with it but it seems like; I'm pretty sure you can't have Weapon Focus in claws since they're not a weapon (they're a natural attack).
What're you calling Vulcan's Favored Weapon? Are you saying it's the Warhammer?
Since Masterwork bonuses and Magic bonuses to Attack don't stack, I'm a little confused as how you have a +7 to hit with the Warhammer. My math has it at 2+3+1 (BAB+STR+Magic)

I rolled and got a 6, 7 on top of full hit die at first level.
In all the previous campaigns I played in the DMs never allowed starting equipment to be reduced as though it was crafted, so I didn't want to take that liberty without his approval.
My thinking was that shield bash shows on the weapon table and shields can be enchanted as magical weapons separately from defensive enchantments, so it seemed like fair game for weapon focus.
Yeah, Vulcan is the god of the forge so Warhammer as his favored weapon made sense.
Yes, that was a mistake on my part when I updated the sheet for the magical weapon. I corrected it.

[D12]

Can you afford all that other stuff if you don't craft your items? I mean I haven't actually tallied up the cost for your equipment (I'm not that invasive) but a +1 weapon is 2k by itself, +300 for a mwk weapon and +150 x2 for two Mwk armor pieces, that's what... 2600gp... a normal agile breast plate by itself is 400gp...

[kckolbe]

Magic weapons are 65% of normal cost

[D12]

Magic weapons are 65% of normal cost

Does that apply to starting gear?

[kckolbe]

Not just weapons, btw, and not sure.  It was in the first post by swordwind.

[D12]

Yeah this part right?

Temple System:
As romans are a religious group of people the gods favor them for their praise with limited magical assistance from time to time. So to gain an enhancement to your gear you spend time praying and donating goods to a local temple.  This will allow you to gain a magical enhancement with a catch for you to remain loyal to Rome and its gods.
In game terms: 65% of total pricing for a magic bonus for weapons and armor and rings.
Sidenote:  Other nations and other gods will also follow this ruling.

If this does apply to starting gear I might turn my +1 Bronze Dagger (2k +1) into a Mwk Bronze Dagger (301) and a +1 Ring of Protection. (2k reduced down to 1300)

[Chulanowa]

As mentioned, Swashbucklers are D10 HD.
And yes, it's stupid to have named a whole class the same thing as an archetype. but that's a problem for pretty much all of the hybrid classes except for Bloodrager and Warpriest. something really dumb? There's lots of archetypes that have the same name as archetypes for other classes. And htne you have stuff like bards, who have a geisha archetype, and a lotus geisha archetype, and a dervish dancer archetype and a dawnflower dervish archetype...
I haven't finalized my equipment.

And you can have weapon focus in anything that the game treats as a weapon. You can certainly have weapon focus: heavy Shield (you'd have to specify, it couldn't just be 'shield" - and unless you have a feat for it, you couldn't focus bucklers or tower shields), as well as natural weapons (again, you'd have to specify.) You can even have weapon focus in your spells - I forget exactly what the categories are, I think it's "rnaged" and "tough" but might be whittled down to more narrow catergories like "ray," 'orb," "missile" etc.

[D12]

I knew you could have Weapon Focus (Ray) but I had to go to the Paizo FAQ to check on Weapon Focus (Melee Touch Spell) and Weapon Focus (Orb).

I'm seeing that Weapon Focus is a lot more versatile than I was under the impression it was with things like Weapon Focus (Grapple) or Weapon Focus (Bite) insert Mike Tyson joke here being street legal.

What strikes me as particularly odd is, if I'm reading the FAQs right, you could have Weapon Focus (Light Shield) and Weapon Focus (Shield Spikes) but if you bashed with a light shield that had spikes you'd only be allowed to apply one Weapon Focus bonus; which, while making rules-sense makes zero logical sense. I always assumed you had to take Weapon Focus (Shield Spikes) and use a spiked shield to use Weapon Focus -feats and Shield Bashing specifically because you couldn't take Weapon Focus in something that wasn't a weapon; and therefore needed to attach a weapon to your shield, but you learn new things when you ask questions.

Hope I didn't rub anyone the wrong way by looking at their sheets, I simply enjoy learning and like looking at other people's builds. ^^

[Chulanowa]

Bite would be covered by weapon focus (as it's a specific weapon in the "natural weapons" grouping) but grapple wouldn't be, as that's a combat maneuver. You'd have to take Improved grapple or something (in which case you get a +2 bonus, and don't provoke Attacks of opportunity, so is actually better than weapon focus would be...)

You want a real brain-wringer? Brawlers are proficient with the use of shields as a weapon but not as shields. They're proficient in every weapon in the "close weapon" group, which includes shields. but when it talks about armor, they are explicitly not proficient with shields. So! A brawler can strap on a shield, and beat the crap out of people with it, but if he tries to use it as a shield, he takes the shield's Dex penalty on his attack rolls. You cna of course get around that with mithral and darkwood... but it's still a big dumb 'huh?"

[D12]

Honestly that's the sort of thing I've come to expect from the Hybrid classes. I don't really have any support for feeling like they're dumb classes, but I really wish Paizo had just done something to make multi-classing a more viable thing rather than just introduce single classes that are explicitly just two classes mashed together

Oh also; Weapon Focus (Grapple) is totally a thing.

Choose one type of weapon. You can also choose unarmed strike or grapple (or ray, if you are a spellcaster) as your weapon for the purposes of this feat.

link

[RubySlippers]

I just wanted to get a basic character done, within the rules, for an acceptance into the game or not. Seemed to me a conniver would be good. I'm working on her background ideas likely a free Greek woman who worked out her Con for a few years until its established. But can still deal with things as a Burglar if needed.

If the traits aren't used changes won't impact the character much.

[kckolbe]

I've been looking through some of the other applications and, I hope this isn't out of line, but I have questions:
kckolbe: How do you have so much HP? I thought we were doing average or roll; are we still getting max for Level 1 or did you roll? 8+4+4+3+3 = 22 (1st+2nd+3rd+Con+FCB) ?
I think you should only have 1 Bonus Spell for First Level with 18 Charisma. (Probably just shuffled your stats, I did the same thing a number of times)
General discussion: are the hybrid classes any good? I made a Warpriest once but the game fell through and I never got to play him. They seem… niche-y.

Sorry, somehow missed this.  I did 5s for average, since someone else mentioned that earlier.  In 3.5, though, I would have 23 (taking 4 on even levels, 5 on odd).  And I subtracted the extra bonus spell, my bad there.

[swordwind]

Sorry for any delays. I've been a little busy. I like the character ideas but I see a few things weren't addressed by some of you. All of you are apart of a house for one reason or another. So multiple houses was never an option. All I need to see now was the connection you would all have to be at said house. Be general of course. I didn't plan on the group being larger then 5 and no more then 6. After I can get a connection rather then assuming I believe I will be able to start this. Thanks.

[Muse]

Aoiffe is Hadrian's concubine.  :)  Simple enough here. 

[D12]

Junia is technically temple property, so assuming the house has made nice with the temple of Luna; she could just be like, on permanent lone to them.

[Chulanowa]

I was figuring Alize would be a sword-for-hire, possibly to teach technique to one of the younger scions of the house or something - sorta Syrio Forel, in my head.

Without the man-perm.

[kckolbe]

By the way, I'm not "married" to the Lingering Song feat, so if anyone knows of one that seems a good fit for him, let me know.

[swordwind]

Sorry for the delays. My computer ran into some issues. So I'll be getting this started on Tuesday I believe. I'll keep in touch. 

[kckolbe]

I was figuring Alize would be a sword-for-hire, possibly to teach technique to one of the younger scions of the house or something - sorta Syrio Forel, in my head.

Without the man-perm.

I'd love to see him doing a shampoo commercial now.  "What do we say to split ends?  Not today."

Glad this isn't dead, by the way.

[D12]

Oh, that reminds me, I had an alternative idea for how Junia could be related to the family:

She's actually a member of the family, just the leads' daughter, and therefore anyone who's a family member's sibling; but she was sent / given away when she was three so she doesn't really know anyone, they don't really know her. Just kind of "And this is your sister, the deaf mute who can make people do things against their will just by looking at them."

[Chulanowa]

I'm actually going to bow out of this one.

Have fun you guys  :D

[Snake]

This one still accepting players? 

And question: why would changelings be looked down upon? Other than Heterochromia, they look largely like whatever race their father is.

[Foxfyr]

This one still accepting players? 

And question: why would changelings be looked down upon? Other than Heterochromia, they look largely like whatever race their father is.

And the claws, mustn't forget the claws. I'm guessing it is a result of them being offspring of a wicked creature, particularly of arcane nature which is detested in this society.

[Muse]

  I always envisioned those as long, elegant fingernails that a girl could manicure.  :P 

[Foxfyr]

I more imagine them like the witch from left 4 dead, I mean you could manicure them, but it may require a whetstone rather that your standard emery board. After all, if they are keen enough to warrant a damage die, then you probably don't have to be as concerned about chipping them on anything less than platemail.

[Snake]

People have manicured "claws" all the time. sa long as they don't look like Sabretooth's claws (from xmen), you could get away with just claiming they're like that :3

[D12]

Appearances aside, there is the stigma of being a baby that your 'mother didn't want.' I mean it's entirely possible that someone doesn't know their mother was a hag, since they're just the period equivalent of a doorbell baby, but everybody is gonna know that mom isn't in the picture; that plus a general sense of 'weirdness' about them could probably explain any prejudice.

But that doesn't mean daddy doesn't love you just as much as all his legitimate children.  :P

[Snake]

Given how common incest was back in roman days... probably more so cuz he could just say you're only HALF related.

[D12]

Well, without TV, the internet, or tabletop role playing games, what'd you expect Romans brothers and sisters to do when their parents order them to 'play nice'?   ::) :P

[Snake]

Hit each other with bronze swords? :p

[D12]

Attempted siblicide is not playing nice :P

[Snake]

*ahem* not the "sword" I meant ^.~

[D12]

Well, I guess they would have an 'all over tan' I don't recall Romans as being big on wearing cloths. :P

[Snake]

Well they do live in the lovely Mediterranean.

[D12]

There's a reason Junia's equipped with the 'Peasant's outfit.'
mostly because it's lighter than the hot weather outfit.

[Snake]

So she's wearinga burlap sac?

[D12]

Pretty much.
Peep this homefry

[Snake]

I'm thinking of making a char for this but I prefer to use exotic races, ilke my favorites are ahalf-dragon barbarian the other is n aasimar oracle

[D12]

Pathfinder doesn't really have half-dragons, not as a playable race anyway. There's the half-dragon template but it's, like, wildly too powerful for a PC to take. There's not really an equivalent to D&D's Dragonborn.

And I'm already an oracle :P

Although it seems like the exotic races aren't really looked well upon. Old timy setting, old timy values I guess. Though what with the religion being such an important thing I could see an Aasimar being well looked upon.

I think what we really need is someone who's the head of the family. We're all working / part of the same noble house / family, but most of the characters thus far aren't really politically ambitious. We need someone who can be in charge, a long-sighted leader who can beat this collection of individuals (perhaps literally) into a party of adventurers!

[Snake]

The half-dragon template from PF is a little lackluster anyway. 

I may be able to do that. what would you think works: Aasimar Priestess (cleric) or fighter. or Human Rogue? :3

[D12]

Hm. We have magic pretty well covered. I'm a spell-focused Oracle, then we have a Bard, Druid and Swashbuckler.

I would go with the Rogue or the Fighter; I'm not sure how well to do we are on Tanks, I'm also not sure how well we are on Social Skills.

[Snake]

From what you've just said: there isn't much in the way as physical power or the like.

One thing I'm tempted to do is a Dhampir too, as they look more or less normal.

[Foxfyr]

Hm. We have magic pretty well covered. I'm a spell-focused Oracle, then we have a Bard, Druid and Swashbuckler.

I would go with the Rogue or the Fighter; I'm not sure how well to do we are on Tanks, I'm also not sure how well we are on Social Skills.

I think what we really need is someone who's the head of the family. We're all working / part of the same noble house / family, but most of the characters thus far aren't really politically ambitious. We need someone who can be in charge, a long-sighted leader who can beat this collection of individuals (perhaps literally) into a party of adventurers.

*Teary-eyed whimper*

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=226592.msg11126436#msg11126436

[D12]

We also have a warpriest with political ambitious.

Although TBH his background strikes me as too blue-collar for the family head.

[Foxfyr]

That is a fair assessment; when it comes to politics he is pretty straightforward in his dealings rather than delving into intrigue. I see his brother rounding him out in that regard, but he holds his own when it comes to determining when somebody is trying to con him and the like.  I envision him as the sort of down-to-earth noble whose backwater holdings works against your typical political dilettante upbringing.

[Snake]

So he's a backwoods cajun with ambition? :3

[Foxfyr]

So he's a backwoods cajun with ambition? :3

Not quite that backwoods if I am imagining the stereotype correctly; add a bit more suburbia and lose the accent to get it about right. ;)

[Snake]

Hahah I'm just messing with you a little Loki ;3

[swordwind]

I've no issues btw with someone else joining in with this group.

[kckolbe]

For what it's worth, you can never have too many casters.  Aldrick is a fighter first, after all, and Hadrian is currently half and half. 

[D12]

That is a fair assessment; when it comes to politics he is pretty straightforward in his dealings rather than delving into intrigue. I see his brother rounding him out in that regard, but he holds his own when it comes to determining when somebody is trying to con him and the like.  I envision him as the sort of down-to-earth noble whose backwater holdings works against your typical political dilettante upbringing.

I am really looking forward to playing Junia as a deaf mute because it'll let her delve into intrigue and guile, (and generally be creepy/odd). I figure she can read lips so communication won't really be a problem, but it does mean that Junia will always be staring intently at whomever is speaking, one of the IC reasons for her mask is so that the beak can make it clear where she's looking at all times, say something while standing behind her and she won't even know you said anything after all. Plus being mute means she has to let her actions speak for her; which I'm looking forward to writing out, and then since virtually all her spells are enchantment spells (Lunar oracle causes lunacy!) with no components at all (after her Silent Spell is applied) she can Command someone to drop to their knees before god without even moving! (Or making it clear she is the reason they're acting strangely.)

[Snake]

Name:  Remi Valerion
Nation: Gaul
Deity: Mars/Ares
Weapons and Armor:  Elysian Bronze Bastard Sword, Lamellar Leather+1, Potions
Background: Remi hails originally from a Gaelic tribe of barbarians that tried to resist the empire before being defeated and assimilated.  However, her father was a gladiator until he attracted the attentions of a well-to-do noblewoman that would go on to have her.  Though Remi always was more of a daddy's girl and took to learning how to fight as compared to ...whatever it was nobility learned; she didn't pick up on that much with a slightly abrasive and tomboyish personality.  She got by via becoming a mercenario when she was old enough to get away with it, seemingly finding favor with the god of war; she became at least recognized as such at a fairly early age for her indomitable will to fight and to win at nearly any cost.

Overall Goal in life: She wants to be a General one day; barring that though- a respected warrior in general
Minor goals in life:  Send as many enemies to see theirs as possible.

Character Sheet: http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=166429

[Muse]

Aofii kneels beside Hadrian, resting her head on his knee.  She looks at her fellow Gaul curiously?  Or is she a half Gaul?   "So, remi?  You're master's cousin?  His aunt's daughter?  And she legitimized you through adoption so you're part of master's family?"   The little Druid bites her lower lip shyly.  "Do you think when master gets me with child he'll adopt them too?"   Aoifi glances at the other potential lord of the house, the priest of Vulcan. Is she your sister, my lord?   Or your cousin too?" 

[Snake]

Hey would you rather she was a germanic barbarian? The ones that I dunno LATER SACKED ROME ITSELF? ..hey that'd be pretty cool..

[Muse]

Confusion.

I think either I have no idea what you mean or you completely misunderstood my question.

[Snake]

I think I did. XD oops.  clarify?

[Muse]

I spoke as my character-a Gaulish slave girl-to restate your character origin as I understood it.  Then I tried to suggest how we might further into grate your character into the house/family by asking how you might be related to the other pcs.  Aoifi is Hadrian's concubine, and Hadrian is a potential head of the house.  (Or potential heir?  Is Hadrian's father or grandfather still alive? ).

You said your character was a Gaul in the sheet, but your history made it sound like her father was a Gaulish gladiator slave and her mother was a woman of the house? 

[kckolbe]

Hadrian is both the younger brother as well as focused on other pursuits.  His sheet reflects that a bit better now.

[Snake]

Correct. Gauls that were assimilated were fairly often pressed into being gladiators if not soldiers from the way I understand it.

But yeah her mom was a noblewoman.

[Foxfyr]

I think the follow-up question to that is whether that would make her a sister or cousin to Aldrick and Hadrian.

[Snake]

something to explore IC? :p

[Muse]

Doesn't sound much like it to me? 

I mean, in general, you know who your sisters and cousins and aunts are fairly early in life.  :P 

[swordwind]

I like all these characters here from these players.

Loki Aesir
D12
Muse
kckolbe
Snake

I could take one more and if I've overlooked someone please step forwards. I'll have this game starts this weekend or maybe Friday.

[kckolbe]

Solid group, nice godly people. 

[Snake]

Awesome ^_^

And Loki, she could be related to your char. I have no issue with it, maybe a cousin.

[Muse]

Awesome ^_^

And Loki, she could be related to your char. I have no issue with it, maybe a cousin.

Well, we are all part of the same household.  :P 

[Snake]

Not necessarily, they could probably have allies or friends they let live there.

[D12]

Or slaves.

A good way for someone to be an arcane caster might be a slave who's magical knowledge is something of an open a secret and is employed by the family as an educator.

[Snake]

Indentured service? 

Hmm anyway. What to do to introduce my char I wanna be ...somewaht fanciful

[swordwind]

So I was wondering something since I now have the introduction made. Where would you all like this to go? What I mean by that is where would you like to play this as? I could go this way or that but I wanted to know where you're all comfortable with with one another.

[kckolbe]

I don't personally enjoy being in a non-con scene, but no issue with them happening.

[Snake]

I'm with kckolbe on this one.

[D12]

I don't mind being part of non-con myself; but don't do 'rape-bait' characters.

[swordwind]

So I'm hearing that is ok to toss into NC without issues? I won't do anything bad. I figure that place just leaves it open for everyone involved.

[kckolbe]

Agreed.  I know Muse doesn't mind NC being part of the game.

[Snake]

I can roll along with it. But don't get pissy if Remi decides to user her nearly superhuman strength to punch the offender in the nads after.

[swordwind]

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227   IC
https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227714.0 OOC

[kckolbe]

Wrong IC thread?

[swordwind]

oops https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=227715.0