Two 8th grade girls attack/strip 5th grade boy.

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QuoteFORT MYERS, Fla. -- A Fort Myers mother says she feels powerless after her 11-year-old son was pinned down at his neck and stripped naked by two middle school girls.

At first glance the minute-long YouTube video looks like kids playing. But it soon takes a disturbing turn as the boy cries out for help, humiliated and pinned down to the ground.

"Mommy!," he yells.

The video, which has since been taken down, shows two Dunbar Middle School girls holding the boy down in broad daylight, inside a gated community.

The boy begs the girls to stop as the rip off his bathing suit, leaving him naked lying on the ground.

The title of the video, which was online for more than 24 hours, says the boy is getting "owned."

"I'm surprised these girls can just do that and get away with it," said the boy's mother. "Or there are no repercussions."

Fox 4 is not releasing the names of anyone involved.

The mother says Fort Myers police filled out a report but weren't much help at first.

The officer "said he didn't know if there was a crime committed but said it looked like a prank."

The police report taken Tuesday described the incident twice as a "prank" and says "police incident closed."

"Nobody cares, nobody cares," the mother said. "If this was my son doing it to a little girl there would have been lights and sirens at my door."

Shortly after Fox 4 contacted police they showed up at the mother's daughter. A spokesperson for the department says it has nothing to do with the media's involvement in the story.

They tell us the plan was always to follow up.

We wanted to talk with Chief Doug Baker about the case. After agreeing to an interview, he backed out because he didn't want to cause the boy further embarrassment, according to spokesperson Shelly Flynn.

Fort Myers attorney E.B. Newberry says at the very least this is a misdemeanor battery because the girls touched the boy against his will.

She says it could even be considered child pornography.

Newberry says if the situation have been reversed, the boy most likely would have been arrested - and admits there's a "double standard."

"Kids need to know they can't do these things and get off without anything," said Newberry. "But I also don't think that their future should be ruined either. It's a Catch-22."

And that is something the boy's mother is struggling with. She's not sure if she will press charges but feels the girls should face some sort of punishment.

Fort Myers police confirm this would have been a misdemeanor battery charge. They say unless the mother is willing to press charges there's not much they can do.

They say they are looking into what charges, if any, the YouTube element could bring but wouldn't elaborate.

"I think they should be held accountable for what they did," she said. "You can't do this to people. What gives you the right to do this?"



"The officer "said he didn't know if there was a crime committed but said it looked like a prank.""

That's what really bothers me...He said it looked like a prank, them stripping him against his will while he cried for help. I mean, What the hell. :/

The girls posted the video they recorded of the act up on youtube, and it stayed up for 24 hours, no doubt humiliating the boy even worse than if they hadn't done that...I think this shows some differing sides in our society...2 girls stripping a boy is considered a "Prank" while two boys stripping a girl is "Sexual Assault" :/

Buuuuuut..there is some good news...even if the mother won't/doesn't want to press charges, apparently Anonymous already has their names and addresses, soooo...something is going to happen to them.

Still, what do you think, E, should she press charges?...I think she should, as many as she can. :/

meikle

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People shouldn't be allowed to say 'catch-22' until they know what it means.

QuoteBuuuuuut..there is some good news...even if the mother won't/doesn't want to press charges, apparently Anonymous already has their names and addresses, soooo...something is going to happen to them.

I don't think vigilantism qualifies as good news!
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Quote from: meikle on June 05, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
People shouldn't be allowed to say 'catch-22' until they know what it means.

I don't think vigilantism qualifies as good news!

I dunno..they have to be punished somehow. :/ Sure tossing them to Anonymous may be going to far, but hey, they shouldn't have done it in the first place. And posting it up on Youtube just made it even worse...

meikle

It 'may be'?

Sending a bunch of vigilantes after a pair of thirteen year old girls is absolutely not a good thing, especially when you consider their history when it comes to young girls.
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QuoteA Fort Myers mother says she feels powerless after her 11-year-old son was pinned down at his neck and stripped naked by two middle school girls.

Quote"I'm surprised these girls can just do that and get away with it," said the boy's mother. "Or there are no repercussions."

Quote"Nobody cares, nobody cares," the mother said. "If this was my son doing it to a little girl there would have been lights and sirens at my door."

QuoteAnd that is something the boy's mother is struggling with. She's not sure if she will press charges but feels the girls should face some sort of punishment.
Fort Myers police confirm this would have been a misdemeanor battery charge. They say unless the mother is willing to press charges there's not much they can do.

Quote"I think they should be held accountable for what they did," she said. "You can't do this to people. What gives you the right to do this?"

I'm sorry, but I'm putting all of this on the boy's mother.  If she thinks they should be held accountable, she should hold them accountable.  She is not powerless - in fact, she is the very person with the power to make this go forward.  She is showing her son that he can not count on her to stand up for him.  He calls for Mommy, and she just wrings her hands and says nobody cares.
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Malefique

I agree, the mother should show some guts and demand at least restitution in the form of a public (online Youtube video, perhaps) apology and some statement from these girls that shows they understand this wasn't funny and it wasn't acceptable.  But so should their parents.  If my child had been the victim I'd be yelling for that public apology at least, and if they were the culprit I'd be explaining to them exactly why they had done wrong, and making them make that apology even without being called to, not to mention grounding them for a year and banning them from the internet except for school projects under my supervision.  But I also blame a media culture which promotes this kind of assault as 'pranks' and tries to make it acceptable.  I don't know how widespread it is in the US, but in my own country people have been severely hurt and even killed in so-called 'happy slapping' incidents - an elderly Asian man was assaulted last year by hooligans while walking his little grandchild home, and he died of a heart attack with a bewildered toddler standing by him.  The culprits had filmed their 'prank' and run off to send it to their friends.  I think we need to redefine these things not as pranks but as assault, and then we can see them for what they are. 
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Quote from: meikle on June 05, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
People shouldn't be allowed to say 'catch-22' until they know what it means.

+1, especially if they're an attorney.


A bit more on topic, this is clearly an assault and the distribution of nude images of a child.  I somewhat agree that the mother should be more proactive in her demands, but I am most disturbed by police calling this a "prank".  I agree that there are serious inequalities here based on the genders of those involved.  Though it is possible that the incident is not sexually motivated, the same can be said of any sexual assaults.  The motive is often power, not sex, which I believe getting "owned" would be all about.  The girls deserve punishment, but it should be befitting their intentions and the harm done to the victim.  From what I've seen, I would not consider them sexual predators, but some punishment is in order, perhaps community service and sensitivity training.  At the very, very least, an apology is in serious order.
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Shjade

Looked up a news clip of the event in question - blurred and shortened version of the original tape, but I was more interested in the audio and general sense anyway - and I would imagine part of the disparity probably comes from the generally low-key action. Yes, he's clearly pinned down, unwilling and stripped - problem. It seems to me like he was holding back a little, though (no, not in a "secretly he was into it" way, more like an "I don't know what I should do" or "should I hit girls" kind of way), which always makes things a little weird for an audience in addition to the reverse of the expected gender being victimized.

Shitty situation all around, pretty much. If I were that kid I'd want to deck them both, but somehow I don't think that'd go over too well, either.
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I think if the boy's mother was even remotely more antagonistic (I think she cares more for her son's mental being more) the girls would be in jail (or on bail) awaiting criminal molestation/pornographic charges. I think if the DA was a bit more aggressive like some I've seen in other parts of the country, both those girls would be on the short bus trip to the sex offenders list.

It seems in this situation (aside form the folks at Anonymous jumping in) that moderate behavior has been taking charge in the case. Of course the girls need SOME punishment.

Alliance

I'm not surprised the police called it prank. Let me tell you a little story of my childhood for a second. I was bullied, yes even by girls, a lot. One day me and my younger brother and older sister are going for a stroll at the park near the school. When some of the kids who bullied me were around and yes they were girls. I was alone at the time, my sister was attending to my brother who fell down. Well the girls stop verbally assaulting me, yelling at me, calling me names. I'm going to ignore them and walk away. But they follow me and my siblings. I mean they literally were following us around and they get another boy to come over as well. They start yelling at us calling us chickens. Finally the boy comes up and pushes me from behind. Told me to fight him. Well I'm just going to walk off. Instead he punches me in the face. I got a tooth chipped and a bloody nose. And the girls are still harassing us until we get back into the neighborhood. We know were these girls live and we know their address, we also knew who they were. Well my sister calls the police. The police arrive and all the kids are around. We take our statements.
And the police tell the parents, "We do not know which one is lying". I was the one covered in blood here, with a chipped tooth still have the chip too.None of them were touched and we wanted to ignore them.

So I'm actually not surprised that the police say it looks like a prank. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

To the topic at hand, I do think the girls should get some form of punishment. Be it vigilante or be it an actual police action. I believe in vigilante justice when its called for and in this case I think its called for. I think that is if the mom wanted to.

One more thing about the police. The police tend to not take younger folks seriously. Because they are kids, they may discriminate against age. I do not think these girls should get away scot free.

They do not have any consequences towards their actions, thus they'll do it again.

RubySlippers

Go to the FBI and ask they investigate both girls for the interstate transmission of child pornography and a hate crime, why pussy foot with the local police. And what misdemeanor this was a sexual battery, creation of child pornogrophy, distribution of child pornography and a hate crime based on gender.

And I would sue YouTube for leaving this video on and abetting a crime and child pornography, sue the girls parents for not supervising them on grounds of mental distress and all medical bills.

They were right if it was two boys doing this to a girl heads would be rolling.

meikle

The fact that there are people advocating sending adults working outside of the law after thirteen-year-old girls is pretty disgusting.
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Quote from: meikle on June 06, 2011, 12:51:11 PM
The fact that there are people advocating sending adults working outside of the law after thirteen-year-old girls is pretty disgusting.

I'm honestly surprised the DA didn't get them for child porn charges.. a lot of them would have them on the offenders list before they could say 'owned' again.

meikle

Which is, let's be clear, equally disgusting and a pretty clear sign that the justice system is not working.

There might be circumstances where something you do during your childhood should impair your ability to ever be a functioning member of society, but pantsing somebody probably isn't it.

Our justice system really shouldn't be built around vengeance.
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Quote from: meikle on June 06, 2011, 12:53:50 PM
Which is, let's be clear, equally disgusting and a pretty clear sign that the justice system is not working.

There might be circumstances where something you do during your childhood should impair your ability to ever be a functioning member of society, but pantsing somebody probably isn't it.

Our justice system really shouldn't be built around vengeance.

Tell that to the DA that tried to put a pair of 16 year olds on the Offenders list for getting caught making out in a car at a local 'Lookout point'.

meikle

Usually when you say "tell that to", you follow it up with like, a situation where the aforementioned fact would be out of place.  "I think XYZ is okay!"  "Tell that to person unjustly harmed by XYZ!"

In this case, uh, okay?  Yes, that's a disgusting case, too, and my point stands?
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Quote from: meikle on June 06, 2011, 01:33:11 PM
Usually when you say "tell that to", you follow it up with like, a situation where the aforementioned fact would be out of place.  "I think XYZ is okay!"  "Tell that to person unjustly harmed by XYZ!"

In this case, uh, okay?  Yes, that's a disgusting case, too, and my point stands?

I think it would be a travesty actually but given that the girls actually posted the assault online I think they need to be prosecuted for something. Behavior like this needs a charge, with probation most likely, to keep them from escalating further. Sorry if I didn't make clearer in earlier posts.

Oniya

There's something just - sociopathic about posting video of yourself attacking someone.  Not only does it show that you were callous enough to beat someone up without provocation, it shows that you are proud of what you did.  Oh yeah, you and your buddy are such big, tough people, beating up a kid three years younger than you, two on one, until the kid's calling for Mommy. *eyeroll*

Absolutely no empathy in those two.  None at all.
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Quote from: RubySlippers on June 06, 2011, 06:10:48 AM
Go to the FBI and ask they investigate both girls for the interstate transmission of child pornography and a hate crime, why pussy foot with the local police. And what misdemeanor this was a sexual battery, creation of child pornogrophy, distribution of child pornography and a hate crime based on gender.
...no.

There was no sexual battery. He was exposed, but no assault of a sexual nature took place - it's just regular assault/battery at most.

Creation and distribution of child porn you could argue about. I don't know if you'd be able to make a passable case, but you could try.

Hate crime based on gender? There's nothing to support that. They aren't insulting him for being a boy, they're just laughing at him and humiliating him. It doesn't seem like he was targeted specifically for his gender, more because he was an easy target.

Wanting some repercussions for their actions is a good thing. Going way overboard on what to throw at them isn't.
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If I'm not mistaken, the fact that he's under 12 already serves as an aggravating factor.
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It's chilling that a pair of preteen girls are capable of this sort of thing. It sends shudders down my spine. What sort of adults will they grow into? Were this to happen in my community, you would bet that I would be lobbying for them to AT LEAST be required to attend counseling.

Oh my god, it makes my skin crawl. Kids can be super cruel - and writing it off as 'kids can be unkind' is a form of complicity that makes my blood run cold. I agree with Oniya in this: the mother has power that she should be using to protect her son and try to make sure these girls don't do more harm down the road.

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Quote from: Wolfy on June 05, 2011, 12:22:12 PM
Still, what do you think, E, should she press charges?...I think she should, as many as she can. :/

I don't really follow why there's a question of her doing so in the first place.  Unless I greatly misunderstood my criminal procedure classes, it should be the DA's decision whether or not to pursue charges at this point.

EDIT: However, either way, yes I think charges should be filed.

Alliance

Quote from: meikle on June 06, 2011, 12:51:11 PM
The fact that there are people advocating sending adults working outside of the law after thirteen-year-old girls is pretty disgusting.

My father did. When I was bullied.

I think at some point you have to do something for yourself by yourself.

I never advocate they go after the daughters. Do talk to the parents. Do establish boundaries and what you will and won't accept. Obviously if it was dire enough to get the police involved, just because the police advocate it as a "prank" doesn't mean you have to.

meikle

Quote from: Alliance on June 06, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
My father did. When I was bullied.

I think at some point you have to do something for yourself by yourself.

I never advocate they go after the daughters. Do talk to the parents. Do establish boundaries and what you will and won't accept. Obviously if it was dire enough to get the police involved, just because the police advocate it as a "prank" doesn't mean you have to.

Uh, "talk to their parents" and "yeah, send vigilantes after these children!" are totally different ideas.

You don't have to accept it as a prank.  You do have to accept that taking the law into your own hands is stupid and incredibly criminal.
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Maybe you guys could start up a dialogue or another thread on the merits and downfalls of vigilante justice?

Oniya

Quote from: Alliance on June 06, 2011, 03:50:45 PM
My father did. When I was bullied.

I think at some point you have to do something for yourself by yourself.

I never advocate they go after the daughters. Do talk to the parents. Do establish boundaries and what you will and won't accept. Obviously if it was dire enough to get the police involved, just because the police advocate it as a "prank" doesn't mean you have to.

The bit that Meikle is referring to (and I agree with the point made) is that people are siccing 'Anonymous' on the girls.  This is the Internet equivalent of giving a rabid badger a dose of speed and launching it with a catapult in the general direction of the target.  You will most likely see far more damage done than appropriate or intended, and enough collateral damage to make the target miss the entire point.

Non-law-enforcement people that should be sent in:  Teachers at the middle school, in the form of a general, across-the-board anti-bullying campaign.  Parents - namely, the girls' parents and the victim's parents, in the form of a moderated sit-down with the girls.  Counselors - a full round of them, for all the kids involved.  The boy is going to need help dealing with the trauma, and someone needs to figure out what the root of the girls' behavior is.
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Alliance

Quote from: meikle on June 06, 2011, 03:58:47 PM
You don't have to accept it as a prank.  You do have to accept that taking the law into your own hands is stupid and incredibly criminal.

So what?

You let it happen? When none of the authority will listen to you. Think you're lying. Think you're making up stories. Because they believe the majority over you.

You're going to sit back and let it happen.

That's how situations escalate.

meikle

There's a video.  Nobody is going to think they're lying.  The mother herself said she doesn't actually want to press charges.

I want you to say that you approve of sending criminals after teenage girls, though, if that's really the point you're making.
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I'm of two minds here; legally, I think the girls should either be put in juvenile detention for a day or two (not a long time, just enough to scare them silly) for assault. And their parents should be talked to, and they should have to attend counseling classes - and hopefully they'll not be allowed on the internet for a long, long time.

Then again, from my own personal standpoint...and I know that this is probably wrong...I see it as rather fair that they've having /b/ sicced on them. Afterall, if you're old enough to post a video of you assaulting someone and stripping them naked, humiliating them, on the internet...well, you're going to get some backlash. The fact that they knew it was wrong and thought of it as funny (they did say that they 'owned' him)...they deserve to be taught a lesson. I hope that no one takes it too far and actually physically assaults them, of course. As far as I know (and I could be wrong about this) no one from 4chan has used the information to physically stalk or assault someone...just to send prank pizzas, strippers, etc. to their house. Frankly, after what they did to the little boy, I think they deserve it.

In short; if you're old enough to use the internet like a disgusting, sadistic troll...you're going to get trolled in return. It may not be right, but I just can't bring myself to feel bad for these girls in this situation.

Alliance

Quote from: meikle on June 06, 2011, 05:29:35 PM
There's a video.  Nobody is going to think they're lying.  The mother herself said she doesn't actually want to press charges.

I want you to say that you approve of sending criminals after teenage girls, though, if that's really the point you're making.

I'm not saying sending criminals on her. I am saying take the situation into your own hands. Don't rely on others to help you. Don't rely on anyone, but yourself. You knew what happened, you knew how it happened. And if the police aren't going to help then you have to do it yourself. Establish a boundary line with the parents, make it known that if it happens again or if you catch wind of another situation you will press charges.

You cannot sit at home and do nothing about it. To me that is neglect of a child.

Ironwolf85

......
this was just appaling,
first of all please stop debating vigalantisim it is off topic and might get this forum locked down.
second that kid is going to be fucked up for life, I say this from experience, when I was in 4th grade the second time round (yeah i had to repeat it, but I was a year ahead anyway so it made no diffrence) aside from being made fun of, and bullied on a daily basis. we were playing a game of tag on the playground when I tagged a girl on the chest (having not fully sexually developed, though my mother was a nurse and I knew the anatomy, I just didn't care) she freaked told the teacher, it caused a major scandal in the school, I was almost brought up on charges of sexual assault, for a fourth grader having THAT as your introduction to sexuality is not a good thing.
To this day I have problems with approaching women I like in real life, I am only recently getting my act togeather sexually and com ing out of my shell.
I am now 22 and finally starting to get the balls to even oogle a woman let alone talk to her...
thanks justice system!
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(Actually, as long as the conversation stays civil, the worst that might happen is a thread-split.)

As a parent, I know I have to advocate for my kid, as well as keep my kid in line.  All sets of parents here need to be reminded of that.  My little one was threatened in school, and the first I heard about it was from her Nana.  I took it straight to the principal.  Now she knows that Mommy will stand up for her, and she comes to me first.  Her first year in school, she was also caught doing some things that she shouldn't - and Mr. Oniya and I sat her down and had a 'serious' talk with her.  We haven't had another report of the same problem since.

Catch these things early, show the kids the right way to behave.  It works.
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Ironwolf85

My parents handled it well which is why I'm not more screwed up, heck other than getting bulled in school, when I got home I had a perfect nuclear, slightly religious but not fantatical, stern but understanding family.

so i can imaghine what this kid is going to be as an adult without that support system... it won't suprise me if he winds up feeling more confortable about sex with guys because of these girls harassment of him.

I'm not trying to start another debate, I just think that homosexuality can be learned or born in. for me it's kinda complex, and before the debate starts, I don't think gay parents create the conditions to change one's sexuality. Trauma relating to women, especally such as what we witnessed on this video, during sexual development can cause anxexity, making one feel more confortable with males, this might not cause it, but this can be a contributing factor towards the changing of one's sexual prefrences.
Freud aside...

Basicly I think the poor kid is going to have a poor opinion of, and be incredibly tense around women later in life because of this incident, and because of his mother's failure to help him, and he's probably feeling like the adults are letting the girls get away with doing this.
this means this truma will be all the deeper.

sorry i'm getting all intelectual psycho-anylizer again.
and Oniya, from what I hear you are raising your kid well and she'll be a decent person when she grows up.
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meikle

Quote from: Ironwolf85 on June 07, 2011, 01:53:14 PMit won't suprise me if he winds up feeling more confortable about sex with guys because of these girls harassment of him.

What happened wasn't cool but I think you're making kids out to be a lot more fragile than they are.
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Quote from: Ironwolf85 on June 07, 2011, 01:53:14 PM
it won't suprise me if he winds up feeling more confortable about sex with guys because of these girls harassment of him.
I'm not sure I understand the logic.

I can see something like this possibly leading to a more anti-feminine response in the boy as he develops, but I'm not seeing where the male interest would come into it. If anything, assuming he's straight prior to the assault, I'd see it either causing overall withdrawal from romantic interests or, possibly, the opposite - inspiring a more hostile/aggressive interest in women than he might have had otherwise as payback. I just don't see where the "guys are for me" element pops up as a result of being attacked by a couple of girls. I'm sure it could happen - brains are strange - but I'd be confused by it as a response to this.
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Envious

My stars, if that was my little boy in that situation, I would be all over the place making sure that those girls were just as humiliated. And eye for an eye is a terrible justice system, but what they did was unforgivable and disgusting and shameful and the fact that the police acted so flippantly and that the boy's mother is so conflicted just riles me up more.

What those girls did was wrong. Sure, going after them in an equally vicious manner is not right, but I can't help but feel that how this is being handled is completely wrong.

Ironwolf85

Quote from: Shjade on June 07, 2011, 02:09:23 PM
I'm not sure I understand the logic.

I can see something like this possibly leading to a more anti-feminine response in the boy as he develops, but I'm not seeing where the male interest would come into it. If anything, assuming he's straight prior to the assault, I'd see it either causing overall withdrawal from romantic interests or, possibly, the opposite - inspiring a more hostile/aggressive interest in women than he might have had otherwise as payback. I just don't see where the "guys are for me" element pops up as a result of being attacked by a couple of girls. I'm sure it could happen - brains are strange - but I'd be confused by it as a response to this.
I was going to mention this as well... but i was a bit afraid of people freaking out at me after what might have already been an inflamitory post.
I had a suprisingly open psych teacher, we picked debate topics out of a hat, me and another classmate got "causes of homosexuality" and I got the nuture side and I still remember the stuff from it.
Prudence, justice, temperance, courage, faith, hope, love...
debate any other aspect of my faith these are the heavenly virtues. this flawed mortal is going to try to adhere to them.

Culture: the ability to carve an intricate and beautiful bowl from the skull of a fallen enemy.
Civilization: the ability to put that psycho in prision for killing people.

Noelle

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was almost positive that sexual assault/abuse/trauma as a cause of homosexuality was already tossed out of legitimacy.

Ironwolf85

I see... then again this is research from 2006... so i guess I'm outdated...
regardless of my complete screwup anyalisis, the kid's gonna have serious trauma, though we have no idea how it will develop as he grows up.

persionally I'm a bt scared of what those hackers might do to the girls, and I wish the mother handled it better, might help her son overall.
Prudence, justice, temperance, courage, faith, hope, love...
debate any other aspect of my faith these are the heavenly virtues. this flawed mortal is going to try to adhere to them.

Culture: the ability to carve an intricate and beautiful bowl from the skull of a fallen enemy.
Civilization: the ability to put that psycho in prision for killing people.

jewess

They should definitely go to the police and press criminal charges if possible. People have no idea how cruel girls can be to each other and to boys, people just ignore it. Not cool.

Wyrd

Hey Wolfy! Do you know if Anonymous has launched any sort of operation yet against these perpetrators. I'm dying to see if they do anything.
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Ironwolf85

Prudence, justice, temperance, courage, faith, hope, love...
debate any other aspect of my faith these are the heavenly virtues. this flawed mortal is going to try to adhere to them.

Culture: the ability to carve an intricate and beautiful bowl from the skull of a fallen enemy.
Civilization: the ability to put that psycho in prision for killing people.

Callie Del Noire

I imagine the family phone number has changed, as have any email accounts the girls own, and possibly their cell phones. As well as their parents.. The junk mail might be a bit big and I'm sure there isn't a delivery resturant that delivers to their area that hasn't had their address red flagged.   

Odds are by the time they are 20 or so this might blow over.

Braioch

-shakes head-

That mother should definitely be pressing charges, those girls need to learn that what they did was extremely wrong. (fucked up comes to mind actually >.>) I seriously cannot fathom what made them think this was funny or amusing. I too seen the censored video in a news clip when I was looking up the story and it's just sick to watch. How they could laugh while he was screaming and crying like that is past my understanding.
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Caela

What makes me sick is that because it's two girls doing this to a boy it is considered a "prank". I don't give damn about gender, this is NOT how you treat another human being! The boys mother should be pressing every charge she can and those girls should be juvenile hall and in some serious counseling. This sort of behaviour doesn't just come out of the blue.

DarkAngel

Now see if that was my son, There be fucking hell to pay.. I just wouldn't put up with the stupid shit.. Hell I take the parents of the girls to court and sue them for everything they got just to show them then need to be more of control on the two little bitches that got away with it..

Hell I hire someone in their class and make sure it was another girl and have them do the same thing to them.. and make  sure they typed Owned on the video..

Shjade

Quote from: DarkAngel on June 22, 2011, 01:09:35 PM
Hell I hire someone in their class and make sure it was another girl and have them do the same thing to them.. and make  sure they typed Owned on the video..
Because fighting fire with fire never goes badly.  ::)
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OldSchoolGamer

What bothers me the most is the double standard re gender: you know if two older boys did that to a young girl they'd be looking at at least ten years of confinement and forced sodomy, followed by a lifetime as a "sex offender" pariah.  It's the American way.  Yet older girls do it to a younger boy and the system says "meh."

Shjade

Quote from: OldSchoolGamer on June 23, 2011, 11:46:25 AM
What bothers me the most is the double standard re gender: you know if two older boys did that to a young girl they'd be looking at at least ten years of confinement and forced sodomy, followed by a lifetime as a "sex offender" pariah.
I doubt it. They'd likely be much more aggressively prosecuted, but they're still 8th graders - way too young for that harsh a penalty over such a minor offense. Yes, it's a humiliating assault, but the girls didn't even touch him after stripping him as far as I could see. He wasn't raped; he was publicly exposed. There's a pretty big gap between those actions.
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Wolfy

Quote from: Shjade on June 23, 2011, 01:34:36 PM
I doubt it. They'd likely be much more aggressively prosecuted, but they're still 8th graders - way too young for that harsh a penalty over such a minor offense. Yes, it's a humiliating assault, but the girls didn't even touch him after stripping him as far as I could see. He wasn't raped; he was publicly exposed. There's a pretty big gap between those actions.

he probably felt violated all the same.  :-\

Shjade

I'm sure he did. However, how he feels does not determine the severity of the crime.
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Oniya

Out of curiosity, has there been any more news from actual news sources about this?
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