Forcing https?

Started by Vekseid, August 23, 2013, 01:13:27 AM

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Vekseid

Rather straightforward question for everyone, but some complaints members have had over the past year have been extremely suspicious, so I've been thinking of doing this.

Basically, if
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Works for you, then all would be well. If it doesn't, (but http://elliquiy.com works) then let me know here, please.

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Https works fine for me.

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Works for me too, Veks. Thanks again for all your hard work. :)
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Ditto here.. works for me. ;D
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They both work fine for me. I take this as a good thing. Especially since I have really no idea what the difference would mean.
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Yes, it works for me as well. Both, in fact.

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rahatngt

Well both is working for me but to me it looks https pages are loading distinctively slow. I wonder if it would put too much load in the server but I guess you know the load profile well enough.

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Both work great, Vek. :)

Personally prefer http but that's just because I'm used to it. Don' t really know the difference.

Anyways, whatever allows the members to access the site easier! (Thank you for fixing the troll issue we all had!)
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They both work perfectly fine for me, and I'm happy to switch to a secure HTTP
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Https doesn't work on my smartphone, I get the troll page for some odd reason telling me to redo the IP numbers.

Daelen

Have you tried redoing the IP numbers from your smartphone using HTTPS, HybridHalf?
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Https is a more secure protocol for sending information. Typically doesn't make a difference, unless you're spending money on the website its on. But, in general, still just a more secure system.
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You're welcome, and if Veks has anything more to add I'm sure he can explain it better lol. As for the initial question. I've switched over to https and only seen one problem. My new message indicator isn't going away, even after checking that new message.
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I have experienced no issues using https over http. If things run smoother or are easier to administer using https, then I have no objections.

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Been switched over since you first mentioned it on the 'E is back' announcement.

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Page loads are a little slower, I'm noticing, but everything loads and works fine, so I'm not too worried about that. Given https is more secure, I'm cool with that trade off, frankly.
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Quote from: Daelen on August 23, 2013, 01:49:53 AM
You're welcome, and if Veks has anything more to add I'm sure he can explain it better lol. As for the initial question. I've switched over to https and only seen one problem. My new message indicator isn't going away, even after checking that new message.

Well if it's different between the http and https versions, it should only be temporary.

Quote from: Miss Kaia on August 23, 2013, 01:43:50 AM
What is the difference?

Using https , traffic is encrypted. This means for example the NSA can't spy on what you post in the private area here.

But there are a few deeper advantages to it.

Namely, the name of the website you are going to does not get sent over http either. This means, if you happen to be in a particularly censorship-heavy area, using https + a hosts file entry means that would-be censors would be none the wiser about your activities here, especially if I didn't direct the ip address to the site (but obviously I can't avoid that at the moment as people are still trying to find us : / )

Also, some ISPs like to cache things over http... this causes problems. They can't do this over https because it just causes random garbage.

Quote from: susiesparkle on August 23, 2013, 02:08:53 AM
Page loads are a little slower, I'm noticing, but everything loads and works fine, so I'm not too worried about that. Given https is more secure, I'm cool with that trade off, frankly.

https is slower, yesh, though most of this is only on the first load in a given period (I've got ssl caching set to a half-hour).

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Both works for me. Haven't tried https on the phone yet though.

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both working fine for me Veks.


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Both work for me, though https is slower and won't embed videos.  And I recall from when I used it before here that it tended to throw off error messages (I can't remember what they said) in threads heavy with upload links.


But I have a more basic question, as I am not quite sure what "forcing" https means.  Some of us have  tons of links in our posts to other threads on site and the Wiki, using http addresses.  What would forcing https do to these links?

Rhedyn

Both work for me on the iPad :)

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Quote from: Daelen on August 23, 2013, 01:41:36 AM
Have you tried redoing the IP numbers from your smartphone using HTTPS, HybridHalf?

I have no fucking clue how to do that. Not everyone is well versed in code like that.

Anyway, I turned off and restarted my smartphone and it works now.

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HTTPs is like two seconds slower. But they both work just fine from my phone.
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Works well enough. And I think it's a good thing if you can force HTTPS redirects for everyone across the board. That will make session hijacking à la Firesheep harder to do.
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Assuming this posts successfully https works fine for me
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Both seem to work fine for me.

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Both work the same for me.

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it works fine for me, no problems that i can tell.

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Works good for me if this posts alright!

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HTTPS works fine for me, too.

I fear that the NSA is capable of doing something like man-in-the-middle on your connection if they want to, though. But it helps protect from 'lesser' threats.

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https works for me. I personally have no strong opinions on using one over the other.
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They both work for me and I have no preference but http is blocked at work but I can get in via https in my lunchbreak so that's useful. I'd ask that https continue to be supported please.

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Quote from: Geraint on August 23, 2013, 02:20:59 AM
Both work for me, though https is slower and won't embed videos.  And I recall from when I used it before here that it tended to throw off error messages (I can't remember what they said) in threads heavy with upload links.


But I have a more basic question, as I am not quite sure what "forcing" https means.  Some of us have  tons of links in our posts to other threads on site and the Wiki, using http addresses.  What would forcing https do to these links?

New youtube links will embed, old ones won't unfortunately.

Forcing means auto-redirecting to the https version of the site. Eventually I'll probably script through and make all links https.

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Both work fine for me. Have no issues on whichever is used. Thanks for everything. Here, have a cookie *gives Veks a cookie*.......oh....you're...you're just too much. Here, have a crate. *safely dumps crate of cookie boxes next you.* There you go. Enjoy. And once again, thank you =^-^=

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Geraint

Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 04:14:50 AM
New youtube links will embed, old ones won't unfortunately.

Forcing means auto-redirecting to the https version of the site. Eventually I'll probably script through and make all links https.

So does that mean that that our current http links to other locations on site would work under https, or not?

Vekseid

Quote from: Geraint on August 23, 2013, 04:20:12 AM
So does that mean that that our current http links to other locations on site would work under https, or not?

Yes, they will work.


Psi

Working fine here, and with valid certs - most people wouldn't notice any difference unless they are power users.

Think of everyone using internet banking :)

My own personal stuff uses self-signed so thats where people would notice, but that doesnt bother the expected user (namely me)

Vekseid

Quote from: Psi on August 23, 2013, 04:45:36 AM
Working fine here, and with valid certs - most people wouldn't notice any difference unless they are power users.

Think of everyone using internet banking :)

My own personal stuff uses self-signed so thats where people would notice, but that doesnt bother the expected user (namely me)

Have had some people have issues. I'm probably going to want to make some conversion scripts - for signatures at least.

Dez

Both work for me.

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Geraint

Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 04:14:50 AM
Eventually I'll probably script through and make all links https.

I hope that means all internal links, and not all outbound ones as well.  That would bring Finders and Seekers to a screeching halt.  Tumblr and Pinterest don't appear to be https sites but they automatically answer an https link with an http address.  But on other hand Photobucket (where a lot of that stuff is hosted), sits and thinks about it for a minute or two and then times out.

AurelieCatena

HTTPS works fine for me too.

Vekseid

Quote from: Geraint on August 23, 2013, 05:01:46 AM
I hope that means all internal links, and not all outbound ones as well.  That would bring Finders and Seekers to a screeching halt.  Tumblr and Pinterest don't appear to be https sites but they automatically answer an https link with an http address.  But on other hand Photobucket (where a lot of that stuff is hosted), sits and thinks about it for a minute or two and then times out.

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Considering the fact that until recently I didn't know a difference existed much less what the difference was I have no idea what I've been using.  I can assume that both have passed through my computer so I'll have to say that both work fine for me. 

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No probs from me either, except with that initial slowness that others have mentioned and even then it's still faster than before the server move, so all's good.
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Looks good, and I support using secure over non.

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I'm using the secure version of E right now, so it does indeed work. Additionally, I'm using a Witopia VPN as well - since I'm funny like that. So far no issues.

Oh, and both on a Mac and an iPad.

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No noticeable change for me.

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Works for me, and I'm happy to see the site switch to a secure http! :)


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Both seem to be working just fine on both my PC & my phone.

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Both work well for me, both on my iPhone and my pc's Chrome browser.

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Quote from: Napanee on August 23, 2013, 06:54:21 AM
I'm using the secure version of E right now, so it does indeed work. Additionally, I'm using a Witopia VPN as well - since I'm funny like that. So far no issues.

Oh, and both on a Mac and an iPad.

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Actually, you know what... After saying I see no issues, I do actually see one. When I come to the Post Reply page to post a reply, If I sit on the page for more than half a minute while I'm typing up the reply, when I hit Post or Preview, the request will hang and I won't get my content posted or previewed. I have to disconnect my VPN, Reconnect my VPN, and then reload (go back and then hit the 'reply' button the the previous page) the Post Reply page after having cut and pasted my reply from the first (failed attempt). If I post the text up quickly and hit Post/Preview it works fine.

This is not a one off. I've posted 3 PMs and this will be my second forum reply of the day. It has happened each time since I moved to the https version of the pages. It NEVER happens with the http version.

Oh, this is all on an iPad. Not tested on a mac yet.

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If you want to read a bit more about the gradual move to HTTPS from a semi-technical standpoint, feel free to check out this article.

We've shifted all of our corporate web sites to https simply for the increased security, even with scenarios where we don't handle authentication requests. My team hasn't found performance hits that we weren't able to overcome with good design, properly built headers and proper configuration. Plus it made transitioning over to more secure areas of our site seamless.

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I would prefer HTTPS. It works fine this end.

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HTTPS works fine.
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Works for me. I haven't noticed any differences as of yet.

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All good here, Throw the switch!

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works like a charm here.

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I've been using HTTP since I first got here.  It's working with me and I'm always on my laptop at the time.
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I run through an encrypted VPN, so my privacy issues are already resolved, but since I run through an encrypted VPN, one might also infer I am generally for security.  Anything that makes it harder for governments to spy on what people do is a-okay with me.  ;D

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I've somehow been using https since the server move, and all works fine, except for that new message alert not going away like someone else mentioned. 

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Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 02:10:17 AM
Well if it's different between the http and https versions, it should only be temporary.

Using https , traffic is encrypted. This means for example the NSA can't spy on what you post in the private area here.

But there are a few deeper advantages to it.

Namely, the name of the website you are going to does not get sent over http either. This means, if you happen to be in a particularly censorship-heavy area, using https + a hosts file entry means that would-be censors would be none the wiser about your activities here, especially if I didn't direct the ip address to the site (but obviously I can't avoid that at the moment as people are still trying to find us : / )

Also, some ISPs like to cache things over http... this causes problems. They can't do this over https because it just causes random garbage.

https is slower, yesh, though most of this is only on the first load in a given period (I've got ssl caching set to a half-hour).


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Works and I fully support moving to https vekseid.

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Both work for me as well.

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No problems for me using Firefox.  I don't know if the browsers people use would make any difference, but in either case, it's fine with me.

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Worked for me in multiple browsers -thumbs up-

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Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 02:10:17 AM
Using https , traffic is encrypted. This means for example the NSA can't spy on what you post in the private area here.


I think that you meant to say  "the NSA can't spy on you quite as easily"   :)

That being said, both work for me.

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Both work for me as well.

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It usually works for me, but in the past I have had situations where https does not work but http does. The error I get is that the https site is not secure, so my work won't let me connect to it. *shrug* Unfortunately, I have NO idea why that is or what error code or anything like that it is, else I'd give it to you. It only happens once in a while though, and for the most part I connect via https.

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Both work for me, though my concern isn't for myself, but for others... there are some apps that allow tethering from phone to a PC or tablet without having to pay extra for the service from your provider that block https. I ran in to this issue with a lot of my IMs at one point when my net was down at my old apartment for several days and I was trying to tether. I would have had to buy the full version of the app to make it work, and frankly... I got the app in the first place so I wouldn't HAVE to pay.
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both work equally well for me. It does however default to http://

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Interesting behavior when posting videos:

I've switched over to the https: address for Elliquiy, and I'm noticing some strange behavior with embedded videos.

1) Putting in just the http: url without tags works as before. (embeds the video)
2) Framing the http: url with 'noembed' tags doesn't work (leaves the video embedded with 'noembed' tags on either side.)
3) Framing the http: url with 'url' tags posts it as a link with no embedding.

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Quote from: Baalborn87 on August 23, 2013, 02:55:09 PM
both work equally well for me. It does however default to http://

Web traffic is http:// by default, when both are available; unless instructed by the client (you) to use https://.  Secure websites, like Paypal and such force https:// in order to encrypt data.  Shopping sites for example (like Amazon, Best Buy, and what not); use a mix of both.  They encrypt all sales transactions, which contain personal information (such as credit card information and such), but leave all "browsing" activities, unencrypted.

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>_> For Veks, Apparently JMs tool does not function in https.

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No worries. Works fine for me.
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https version of the site works just fine for me, and I prefer it.

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Works for me, no complaints here.
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#126
Works for me.

A bit slow though.

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     It works for me, tried Explorer and Firefox.

(Firefox seems much faster.  Don't usually use that so not sure if it is a general difference or specific to this.) 

And I'm on wifi in Central Asia at the moment, if that makes any difference to the roster  :-)
     

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Quote from: Nessy on August 23, 2013, 07:55:36 PM
It works for me, but like someone else, now I can't get rid of the new message message.

Try clearing your cookies and cache.   That helped me when I had that issue before.

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Https works fine for me, at least for the most part.

I noticed that some previously-embedded videos from Youtube are now only showing up as hyperlinks, and that's both on the https and http version of the site.

The site also switches back to regular http when I click on your link to come to this thread.


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Both seem to be working fine with me, and HTTPS is equally as fast (though I've used it most of the time anyway) for me.
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I actually made a ruleset on HTTPS Everywhere that essentially simulates the effect of the proposed change. So far, I find no oddities anywhere.
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Quote from: Josietta on August 23, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Try clearing your cookies and cache.   That helped me when I had that issue before.

Going back to the the http:// site was easier, and cleared it right up.
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I'm all for HTTPS, as long as it's more secure.

As a Canadian National, I'm not comfortable with the potential spying by a foreign agency.  I know it happens and for the most part what we do here isn't very important, but...  I don't know, I just don't like it.  So HTTPS is OK for me.
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Both are working well for me so far.
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Quote from: stormwyrm on August 23, 2013, 09:25:29 PM
I actually made a ruleset on HTTPS Everywhere that essentially simulates the effect of the proposed change. So far, I find no oddities anywhere.

Could I get a copy of your ruleset for E until this change is implemented?
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For those of you who are interested in trying out the HTTPS Everywhere ruleset. Copy/paste this into Notepad and save it as Elliquiy.xml.

<ruleset name="Elliquiy">
  <target host="www.elliquiy.com" />
  <target host="elliquiy.com" />

  <rule from="^http://(www\.)?elliquiy\.com/" to="https://elliquiy.com/"/>
</ruleset>


Then, in Firefox, go to Help->Troubleshooting Information and under the Application Basics section, click on Open Containing Folder. There a window will appear and you should copy the Elliquiy.xml file inside the HTTPSEverywhereUserRules folder. Then restart your browser. These instructions of course are specific for Windows. Not sure how it's done on OS X or any other OS but it boils down to putting the ruleset in the folder where user rules are stored, and restarting the browser (or alternatively disabling and re-enabling HTTPS Everywhere).
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Good on my end, I believe.

Rook Seidhr

I've had an HTTPSEverywhere rule forcing https access site-wide ever since I joined E, and it works fine except for uploading files to the wiki. I have to turn it off and use http to get that to work.

Athem

Same here, except I use the option in NoScript (for Firefox) to force https.


Naomi75

I suppose whatever works for you works for me! LOL Thanks for asking but I'm tech challenged so I defer to your judgment!

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realisticwordweaver

Search does not work for me either ways

Indyo

Works fine here, Veks :)
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Quote from: stormwyrm on August 23, 2013, 11:53:04 PM
For those of you who are interested in trying out the HTTPS Everywhere ruleset. Copy/paste this into Notepad and save it as Elliquiy.xml.

<ruleset name="Elliquiy">
  <target host="www.elliquiy.com" />
  <target host="elliquiy.com" />

  <rule from="^http://(www\.)?elliquiy\.com/" to="https://elliquiy.com/"/>
</ruleset>


Then, in Firefox, go to Help->Troubleshooting Information and under the Application Basics section, click on Open Containing Folder. There a window will appear and you should copy the Elliquiy.xml file inside the HTTPSEverywhereUserRules folder. Then restart your browser. These instructions of course are specific for Windows. Not sure how it's done on OS X or any other OS but it boils down to putting the ruleset in the folder where user rules are stored, and restarting the browser (or alternatively disabling and re-enabling HTTPS Everywhere).

Could you add securecookie to that and check to make sure it works, please?

<ruleset name="Elliquiy">
  <target host="www.elliquiy.com" />
  <target host="elliquiy.com" />

  <rule from="^http://(www\.)?elliquiy\.com/" to="https://elliquiy.com/"/>
  <securecookie host="^(\.)?elliquiy\.com$" name="(ElliSMFCookie11|PHPSESSID)" />
</ruleset>


Sparrowhawke

Quote from: CaughtByMoonlight on August 23, 2013, 01:19:41 AM
They both work fine for me. I take this as a good thing. Especially since I have really no idea what the difference would mean.

Exactly my thoughts. Both sites are working fine for me.

Vekseid

Quote from: Sparrowhawke on August 24, 2013, 03:45:50 AM
Exactly my thoughts. Both sites are working fine for me.

Some consumer/consumer accessible (hospital, etc) ISPs are censoring Elliquiy. This will make that less likely.

Some ISPs are inappropriately caching things on Elliquiy. This makes that impossible.


bigdean777

Worked fine on my laptop and phone.

Remec

Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 01:13:27 AMBasically, if
https://elliquiy.com

Works for you, then all would be well. If it doesn't, (but http://elliquiy.com works) then let me know here, please.

Worked for me, took me right to the opening page and a entered with no problem.

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Quote from: Vekseid on August 24, 2013, 02:52:02 AM
Could you add securecookie to that and check to make sure it works, please?

<ruleset name="Elliquiy">
  <target host="www.elliquiy.com" />
  <target host="elliquiy.com" />

  <rule from="^http://(www\.)?elliquiy\.com/" to="https://elliquiy.com/"/>
  <securecookie host="^(\.)?elliquiy\.com$" name="(ElliSMFCookie11|PHPSESSID)" />
</ruleset>


This seems to work just fine for me. No oddities so far.
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Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 01:13:27 AM
Basically, if
https://elliquiy.com

Works for you, then all would be well.


https works from here


Quote from: Riveda on August 24, 2013, 01:20:40 AM
I've had an HTTPSEverywhere rule forcing https access site-wide ever since I joined E, and it works fine except for uploading files to the wiki. I have to turn it off and use http to get that to work.


https @ the wiki worked also, but i didn't try the uploading of any files.   

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I'm fine with going all https, but I hope you fix the bug with private messages. When I click on the new private messages it continues to be new messages even after I read them and sent replies. I also get a pop up that asks if I want to load unsafe parts of the website.

Other than that I didn't encounter any problems and from what I read https has some huge benefits.

Haibane

Quote from: stormwyrm on August 23, 2013, 11:53:04 PMThen, in Firefox, go to Help->Troubleshooting Information and under the Application Basics section, click on Open Containing Folder. There a window will appear and you should copy the Elliquiy.xml file inside the HTTPSEverywhereUserRules folder. Then restart your browser. These instructions of course are specific for Windows. Not sure how it's done on OS X or any other OS but it boils down to putting the ruleset in the folder where user rules are stored, and restarting the browser (or alternatively disabling and re-enabling HTTPS Everywhere).
I have Firefox 23.0.1 and I don't have a "Open Containing Folder" in the "Application Basics" section.

I do have a "Profile Folder" button but when selecting that it opens Firefox's profiles folder.

Am I in the right place?

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#160
Quote from: Haibane on August 24, 2013, 08:52:34 AM
I have Firefox 23.0.1 and I don't have a "Open Containing Folder" in the "Application Basics" section.

I do have a "Profile Folder" button but when selecting that it opens Firefox's profiles folder.

Am I in the right place?
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#161
Quote from: dragonsen on August 24, 2013, 09:00:18 AM
Ye, you are in the right place.
There isn't a "HTTPSEverywhereUserRules" folder either.

This is what I'm seeing after opening the "Profile Folder" button:





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It seems to be working fine for me with both sites.
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PC/Laptop - Check
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When I get home I'll give it a whirl on my 360 and PS3, will update then.

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Quote from: Vekseid on August 24, 2013, 02:52:02 AM
Could you add securecookie to that and check to make sure it works, please?

<ruleset name="Elliquiy">
  <target host="www.elliquiy.com" />
  <target host="elliquiy.com" />

  <rule from="^http://(www\.)?elliquiy\.com/" to="https://elliquiy.com/"/>
  <securecookie host="^(\.)?elliquiy\.com$" name="(ElliSMFCookie11|PHPSESSID)" />
</ruleset>



This rule worked for me too. Upload feature on wiki section worked fine too. \o/



Oreo

Whoa wait! I can get on E through my Xbox and PS3?

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Quote from: Oreo on August 24, 2013, 12:57:35 PM
Whoa wait! I can get on E through my Xbox and PS3?

WHAT IS THIS SHENNANIGANRY!?!?!

*Waits eagerly for the answer*

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Why not? as long as you have a web browser on it and an internet connection. Hell, you could probably get on with a Wii too.


Falanor

Quote from: Oreo on August 24, 2013, 12:57:35 PM
Whoa wait! I can get on E through my Xbox and PS3?
Both have web browsers on them.  Granted, the 360 is using IE.  I've not done so in a long, long time, but I'm game for giving it a whirl in case it can be done.  Then I'll just need to get a wireless keyboard and mouse that can stand up to the occasional defiant Kaylee cat deciding to walk across my lap...

Oreo

Quote from: Falanor on August 24, 2013, 01:22:08 PM
Both have web browsers on them.  Granted, the 360 is using IE.  I've not done so in a long, long time, but I'm game for giving it a whirl in case it can be done.  Then I'll just need to get a wireless keyboard and mouse that can stand up to the occasional defiant Kaylee cat deciding to walk across my lap...
Ah I can even plug a wireless keyboard into the USB? I am just wondering in case a PC ever fails - and I need my fix.

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#172
Quote from: Haibane on August 24, 2013, 09:18:11 AM
There isn't a "HTTPSEverywhereUserRules" folder either.

This is what I'm seeing after opening the "Profile Folder" button:



Do you have the HTTPS Everywhere addon installed?

This Firefox add-on can be downloaded and installed from here: ( It does not appear to be available directly from Mozilla's add-on page )
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere







Falanor

Quote from: Oreo on August 24, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
Ah I can even plug a wireless keyboard into the USB? I am just wondering in case a PC ever fails - and I need my fix.

Yeah, before the cat, I used to have a damn nice set up where I could quickly enter passwords and such for things on it instead of having to use the controller and that fun keyboard interface...

Haibane

Quote from: TaintedAndDelish on August 24, 2013, 01:33:27 PM
Do you have the HTTPS Everywhere addon installed?

This Firefox add-on can be downloaded and installed from here: ( It does not appear to be available directly from Mozilla's add-on page )
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
I didn't have it installed. The OP didn't say anything about having any plug-ins added. I've done so now and its all working beautifully. Thank you very much!

TaintedAndDelish

Any time \o/

The OP suggested that https would automatically be used on elliquiy.com instead of http - therefore the https everywhere add-on would not be needed. For those using https-everywhere, the https rule given in the code block tells the add-on specifically how to handle pages from elliquiy. ( effectively, to always replace http with https in the url ).

Now that you have https anywhere installed ( assuming you have also restarted your browser after installing), your browser will attempt to connect to all websites using https first, then http if https is not available. More accurate details should be available on the link I posted previously.

Haibane

Thanks, I think that's going to be useful. I appreciate the help.

bigwad73

The only issue I'd have is that sometimes, when I travel, I tether to my phone if I can't get to a wireless network (and more, one that lets me get to E).  The software that I use doesn't work for https sites, at least, the free version doesn't.  I'd have to upgrade.  Oh, and I'm cheap.
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Https works for me just fine. :-) Thank you Veks.

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Yeah... I'm afraid I don't know the difference. ???

Either work for me really.

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I would have no problem with forcing it. I already use it since as far as I'm concerned, more secure is always better.
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Quote from: Snickerz on August 24, 2013, 05:35:17 PM
Yeah... I'm afraid I don't know the difference. ???

Simply put, with https, the information that you send and receive is scrambled. This prevents others ( nosy neighbor, spooky government, etc.. ) from reading/recording everything you read and post on E and whatever other sites you visit.

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I thought only financial sites or shopping sites could/needed to use https?

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Quote from: CriminalMindsFan on August 24, 2013, 10:07:01 PM
I thought only financial sites or shopping sites could/needed to use https?

Plain HTTP is not only vulnerable to sniffing attacks, but also session hijacking, where some attacker grabs your session credentials and is capable of impersonating you to the site in question. Think of what would happen if someone did that to a social networking account (which E is pretty close to being actually). There are ways of mitigating this without using HTTPS but HTTPS is the easiest solution and solves plenty of other security issues besides.
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Quote from: stormwyrm on August 25, 2013, 02:44:07 AM
Plain HTTP is not only vulnerable to sniffing attacks, but also session hijacking, where some attacker grabs your session credentials and is capable of impersonating you to the site in question. Think of what would happen if someone did that to a social networking account (which E is pretty close to being actually). There are ways of mitigating this without using HTTPS but HTTPS is the easiest solution and solves plenty of other security issues besides.

Legally speaking, Elliquiy is a 'social network', at least as far as exemptions and safe harbors are concerned.

Geil

I've been using https here for over a year. Aside from the embedded video visibility issues already pointed out the only problem I've come across is not being able to manage PMs properly. I posted workaround here but that workaround is to temporarily not use https.

I've just checked that the problem still persists on my most up to date install. I can't create new PM labels whilst using https.  Will forcing https and the wrapping up/redirection of http links now make that workaround impossible?

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https works for me as well, though I don't even see http or https when I browse the site normally. Right now it's just https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?action=post;topic=183098.0;last_msg=8794316

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Https works well on both my home and mobile devices, so no real complaints here, Veks!

Also, do you capitalize something like https when it's at the beginning of a sentence, even if it's 'proper' form should be all lowercase?
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Actually, since it's an abbreviation, it would be written in all uppercase (HTTP or HTTPS).  Since that part of a web address isn't case sensitive, dropping it to lowercase in the middle of a sentence has become common.
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HTTPS Works great for me, so no worries on the force

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Both work fine, on my phone and my PC.

As for the question of whether to capitalise, convention is that web addresses and email addresses are written all lower case. I don't think there is any more reason for it than there is a reason for the @ symbol in an email address - the person who wrote the original hypertext transfer protocol simply started writing them that way.

Incidentally, as hypertext is one word,  if it were treated as an abbreviation it would be HtTP, with the first t in lower case.

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Both links work just fine for me :)
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I wish security was even tighter in fact, you can google elliquiy and your screen name together and find something you posted in.

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Quote from: Vekseid on August 23, 2013, 01:13:27 AM
Rather straightforward question for everyone, but some complaints members have had over the past year have been extremely suspicious, so I've been thinking of doing this.


Works fine for me, and sounds like a good idea.

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Either works for me. It seems like a good idea though to make it a bit more secure here.

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Quote from: TaintedAndDelish on August 24, 2013, 02:08:32 PM
Any time \o/

The OP suggested that https would automatically be used on elliquiy.com instead of http - therefore the https everywhere add-on would not be needed. For those using https-everywhere, the https rule given in the code block tells the add-on specifically how to handle pages from elliquiy. ( effectively, to always replace http with https in the url ).

Now that you have https anywhere installed ( assuming you have also restarted your browser after installing), your browser will attempt to connect to all websites using https first, then http if https is not available. More accurate details should be available on the link I posted previously.
Sorry to report that I have had to disable the HTTPSEverywhere plugin as its a possible source of crashing my browser and the system. Since installing it a couple of days ago I've had 2 BSODs and 2 complete system freezes where nothing would work at all except the Power Off button ;) HTTPS Everywhere has been the only system change I've implemented in the last I don't know how long and despite the PC being 2.5 years old I have never had a single BSOD on it before.

The crashes always occurred with Firefox open and after typing in a reply to a forum (sometimes E, sometimes elsewhere). I'm using Firefox 23.0.1 and it may be an incompatibility issue.

I know this may be going off-topic from Vek's thread and if it is I apologise for that but as its related to a solution suggested on here to always try to use https where possible I thought I would post my experiences.

We can take this to the computer help section if preferred.

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They both work for me so whatever you decide is fine with me. Love the site and thank you for all your hard work to keep it operating for us.

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Both work well for me ^^

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My computer tends to https me on sites wether I enter http:// or not so its okay for me.
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Quote from: Haibane on August 26, 2013, 04:50:11 AM
Sorry to report that I have had to disable the HTTPSEverywhere plugin as its a possible source of crashing my browser and the system. Since installing it a couple of days ago I've had 2 BSODs and 2 complete system freezes where nothing would work at all except the Power Off button ;) HTTPS Everywhere has been the only system change I've implemented in the last I don't know how long and despite the PC being 2.5 years old I have never had a single BSOD on it before.

The crashes always occurred with Firefox open and after typing in a reply to a forum (sometimes E, sometimes elsewhere). I'm using Firefox 23.0.1 and it may be an incompatibility issue.

I know this may be going off-topic from Vek's thread and if it is I apologise for that but as its related to a solution suggested on here to always try to use https where possible I thought I would post my experiences.

We can take this to the computer help section if preferred.

Probably should if you wish to keep using it. I had a bunch of issues with it myself, but that was when it was first released.