"Healslut" in a D&D party (looking for DM + party?)

[snowdrop]

Hi all! :-)
I recently joined Elliquiy, this is my first thread here; please be kind ^_^;

For the longest time I've been really interested in the "healslut" fetish. For those who don't know about it: it's basically about playing a dom/sub dynamic in the traditional "healers / tanks / DPSers" dynamic in MMOs or other team-based games like Overwatch -- the idea being that the healer (or "healslut") should not only selflessly dedicate themselves to healing and buffing, keeping their allies healthy and making them powerful; but she's also there to... see to the party's other needs, and generally be used by them however they wish.

As appealing as the kink is to me, I've personally never really understood how it could work out in a video game, especially a fast-paced game such as Overwatch with very little roleplaying involved. However, I *love* D&D, and I think in the right group it could be amazing in D&D :-)



The scenario I was thinking about is something like this: A young healer girl (probably a Life Domain cleric, or maybe a bard purely focused on healing and buffing) joins a party of seasoned adventurers. Maybe they're all fighters and rogues who don't really have any healing of their own so they really need the healing, or maybe there's another reason they decide to take her aboard. Maybe my character is a runaway princess portraying as a common adventurer (I know, it's a horrible trope, but I happen to love that particular one ^_^;), and they help her out of some vague sense of loyalty or a debt... or something.

In any case, they have one condition: as she's way inexperienced, she needs to do everything she's told no matter what, since she's just an inexperienced rookie and they're all toughened veterans. They decide how she fights, what weapons they give her, what clothes or armor they make her wear (which obviously is "little to none"). This quickly turns into them giving her a "rookie's hazing", which quickly escalates to a dynamic where she's the party's "healslut" in every sense of the word.

I imagine them not only having fun with her at camp, but also tying her up and using her as bait, offering her as leverage when haggling, forcing her to fight naked as punishment for failing in the previous fight, letting the tentacled monster ravage her without interfering as they mop up the rest of the enemies, and so on, and so on... (so, yes, if it wasn't clear, I would love to have a dub-con/non-con feel to the theme :-))

However: outside the party having this weird dynamic where she's constantly abused and has little to no say as to how they fight or how they treat her, I'd actually like to play it as close to a normal D&D game as possible! So the party has a quest or a goal they work towards, they fight enemies, crawl dungeons, find loot, and so on... the party just happens to have a healslut in it :-) My character also doesn't need to be the "main character" of the story at all: the actual story / quest would be for the whole party and my character is just one part of it; just like in any other D&D group :-)

I imagine my character would several levels lower than the rest of the party; like she'd be level 1-3, while the others are something like 5-7. This would make it intentionally tough for my character to keep up, and she really *is* dependant on her party -- if she's caught by any of the enemies they're facing, there's very little chance she can make it on her own! And yes, I'd be more than fine playing a character that's way weaker than her party members: that's a big part of the fun :-)



So, I'd love to find a DM who'd be interested in planning this out together with me, and running this kind of a game! 5th edition D&D is pretty much the only system I know so that'd be my preference, but I'm also more than happy to try something else out if someone is interested in running it in a different system instead :-) Just with the caveat that I'll know nothing about the system and will have to learn...

As far as the party members go -- I'm happy with both male and female characters; just I'd love to be the only sub/"healslut" in the party, so the others should optimally be dominant-minded.

I'm also willing to play this solo, or maybe in a 3-way game, so that one player plays all the other party members, and then someone else does the DMing? That is, if it's easier to find a group that way... I'm sorry, I'm new to E, I don't really know how things work over here ^_^;

Obviously I'd be more than happy to let the DM shape the actual world and story however they like! Or I'm also happy to brainstorm together and think about how to build it all.

Anyways! Enough rambling for one post. Anyone interested in this? :-)

[Reno]

You can't have a party of adventurers without a good rogue - If this gets going, I'd take that role in a heartbeat!

[Muse]

  Well met, Snowdrop, and welcome! 

  I might be having some GMing time free up soon.  If I do, I'd love to bring you into a game.  (Reno too.) 

  If not, I'd love a chance to play. 

[Chajesdad]

     I am an experienced DM, though new to 5th Ed. If you are willing to put up with my learning curve as we play, I feel your request was almost written for me to set the story. I have gaming experience since AD&D came out, and have DMed the last 28 years, so the system is familiar with a few variants. I have the core books and a willingness to set the game up. As we build I would like to keep things to the 3 Core books, Players, Monster Manual and DMG, the only exception being my comfort with Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting makes me want to allow the Sword Coast Expansion as well.

     That said, I would prefer to play this with 3.5 or Pathfinder, since these systems would much better provide the healslut spell slots and a more dramatic  difference in the power between her and the more experience crew.

     I have just the story that will work for this concept. I want to see posting expectations and explain a few of mine and see if all are willing and able to mesh. I as a story teller need to see progression, through a scene, not overly worried about through the story since some scenes are going to take longer than others. I request 3 to 4 posts a week. I like descriptive scenes, so requesting a paragraph or more per post I don't see as too much, and the occasional personal soliloquy (wall of text) would not be out of hand, though not encouraged on a regular basis. I will try to offer good descriptions of the surroundings, I don't mind you adding something to a scene (I mentioned a table then adding a plate or candlestick would be ok) but make sure it makes sense in the scene (swinging from the chandelier is cool, just not in the jungle). Minor control of NPCs is fine, as long as its not story affecting. you can share time with the tavern wench if you pay her proper, but don't have the mayor change how much you are getting paid. Do not try to control other players. And please, come to me if there are any questions or problems between you and another player. We will definitely mistreat at least one character by definition with this game, hazing and such, but if it goes too far let's deal with it out of character so we can all enjoy ourselves.

     IF these terms are acceptable, I ask to be your storyteller.

     

     

[Ziether]

That said, I would prefer to play this with 3.5 or Pathfinder, since these systems would much better provide the healslut spell slots and a more dramatic  difference in the power between her and the more experience crew.

If a PF or PF/3.5e hybrid game idea develops from this, please poke me. I am an experienced PF player/GM, and have always wanted to explore the game without the restrictions of keeping things squeaky clean.

On that note, I am an experienced player/GM who is more than willing to teach people, although I don't have time in my life to GM right now. Even if such a game does not develop, my inbox is always open for questions.

[eBadger]

Bringing a toy along on long, stressful adventures is a fabulous idea!

I'm always up for pathfinder/3.5, willing to try 5e but new to it.  I'd also be willing to GM a solo adventure. 

[Doomsday]

Stating my interest in one of the dom roles. I know 3.5e and 5e very well, not so much 4e or PF. 5e just had a pretty nifty new book published if that sways any hearts or minds...

[Guancyto]

I'd be down for this. 3.5e would be interesting as it had CoDzilla, which means after a certain point the healslut could become more powerful than her comrades... but only if she gave up on being the healslut. :P

(As an added bonus a 3.5e cleric is much better at party favors than a 5e one.)

[snowdrop]

Yay! Thank you all so much for the interest! :-) I'm really happy (and a bit relieved, hah) to see so many people who find the idea interesting :-)

     I am an experienced DM, though new to 5th Ed. If you are willing to put up with my learning curve as we play, I feel your request was almost written for me to set the story. I have gaming experience since AD&D came out, and have DMed the last 28 years, so the system is familiar with a few variants. I have the core books and a willingness to set the game up. As we build I would like to keep things to the 3 Core books, Players, Monster Manual and DMG, the only exception being my comfort with Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting makes me want to allow the Sword Coast Expansion as well.

     That said, I would prefer to play this with 3.5 or Pathfinder, since these systems would much better provide the healslut spell slots and a more dramatic  difference in the power between her and the more experience crew.

     I have just the story that will work for this concept. I want to see posting expectations and explain a few of mine and see if all are willing and able to mesh. I as a story teller need to see progression, through a scene, not overly worried about through the story since some scenes are going to take longer than others. I request 3 to 4 posts a week. I like descriptive scenes, so requesting a paragraph or more per post I don't see as too much, and the occasional personal soliloquy (wall of text) would not be out of hand, though not encouraged on a regular basis. I will try to offer good descriptions of the surroundings, I don't mind you adding something to a scene (I mentioned a table then adding a plate or candlestick would be ok) but make sure it makes sense in the scene (swinging from the chandelier is cool, just not in the jungle). Minor control of NPCs is fine, as long as its not story affecting. you can share time with the tavern wench if you pay her proper, but don't have the mayor change how much you are getting paid. Do not try to control other players. And please, come to me if there are any questions or problems between you and another player. We will definitely mistreat at least one character by definition with this game, hazing and such, but if it goes too far let's deal with it out of character so we can all enjoy ourselves.

     IF these terms are acceptable, I ask to be your storyteller.

That all sounds great to me at least! If you feel as inspired to run the game as you sound, and already have a story in mind, it definitely sounds like we should take advantage of it :-) What kind of a setting / theme would you be looking for, or what kinds of characters? I'm not that familiar with Forgotten Realms, myself (I've always played in more or less homebrewed worlds) but more than happy to learn and roll with it!

I'm all for using 3.5 or Pathfinder if that's what you / everyone prefers. I've just literally never even looked at either of those books, so you'll need to excuse me as I stumble through the learning curve of a new system... although it probably isn't even too bad, considering the theme, that my character doesn't always really know what she's doing either -- I'm sure her fellow adventurers are happy to give her guidance! ;) Out of interest, what makes you guys say those systems would make the cleric better at party favors or provide better healslut spell slots?

Also, 3.5e still isn't free, is it? I would have to actually hunt down the rules somewhere if we're using a system other than 5e!

[Muse]

*Waves* hi Snowdrop! 

Quite the contrary!  3.5 has an extensive system refrence document.  Almost all the basic information is available for free on the internet.  Then there's pathfinder--which can be an even better choice if for no other reason than that it's system refrence document contains the entire body of rules.  Only setting material is kept out of the Pathfinder SRD. 

Take a glance here. 

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/

Pathfinder--which is arguably D&D 3.75 by a diferent publsiher--should look mildly familiar.  There's character races and classes, the same six abiltiy scores, class features and spells, skills and feats. 

The core mechanic is the same--d20+modifier vs. dificulty.  3.5 and Pathfinder have noticably more improvent, though.  In 5th edition, everyone's proficiency bonus starts at +2 and goes up every what, 4 levels? 

3rd editon isn't that streamiled, with diferent progressions and more options. 

as to the dramatic defence in power level....  Well, as an example, in 5th edition, a character of any class at third level is likelty to have a d20+5 attack roll, where a character of 7th level si likely to have d20+7. 

Compare to pathfinder where a 3rd level cleric's attack roll is probably d20+5, and a 7th level clerics is probably +9.  A seventh level fihgter's attack roll will likely be d20+13. 

So that's an example of how your healslut would probably be both dominated by and need to protection of the more senior adventurer's while still particpating. 

Also on the topic of particiating, you'll have slighlty more spells per day and slighlty more class abilties in pathfinder  (In 3.5, more spells but not more class features.)   That will make you able to provide more healing and buffing. 

Also, you can't heal large quantities of damage just by taking a short rest in third editon, so someone with supernaturla healing will be a lot more valuable to us! 

[snowdrop]

Hihi! *waves*

Oh! I had no idea there was so much information freely available! Looks like I'll be busy reading for a while... :D

I think I've heard something like that being said about the older editions, actually -- something like, high level creatures actually get ridiculously high ACs, so that lower level characters have no realistic chance of even ever hitting them? That sounded a bit silly to me, but like you said, it should actually be pretty fun for this particular story: if my character can't even really touch the enemies herself, she really needs to depend on the rest of the party in order to survive!

That's also a very good point that I guess you don't really even need a dedicated healer in 5th edition. If that's not the case with the older ones, it's another very good reason to play them, as the setup would make more sense. Is there a reason to play 3.5 instead of Pathfinder? Or is Pathfinder just the better version?

[Muse]

  :)  3.5 vs Pathifinder...  Tricky question. 

  Pathfinder is more flexible for those of us who like to come up with detailed characters and be able to represent them with the game mechanics right from the start.  3.5 has a whole lto of material that goes right tot he core dungeons and dragons settings.  3.5 you look for prestige classes that represent your ultimate charcter goals.  Pathfinder you customize your classes with archetypes. 

  *Shrugs*

  For the purposes of this game, there's nothing so overwhelmingly useful about 3.5 that it's worth more than the System Refrence Document in my humble opion. 

  Something a bit more relevent to the game might be for me to sugest some good Healslut character classes. 

   The obvious choice is, of course, Cleric.  They have all minor of healing abilties and buff spells.  They can channel posotive energy to heal everyone nearby several times a day.  (Or to damage undead.)  This abitliy is tied to the Charisma abiltiy score, while spellcasting is tied to Wisdom. 

  Next choice is the Oracle.  ORacle spellcasting is completely based.  They have a mystery, a theme of powers that gives them bonus abilty.  They also have a curse, like being half blind, or deaf, or having a limp that won't go away, or loosing knowlege of all but a few extra planar langueges during stresful situations like combat.  They have a limited spell selection, but a lot of casting abitly, and nice mystery basaed class features. 

  The last option is an archetype of the Witch called the Hedge Witch.  The Hedge Witch is based on the concept of the old healing woman or midwife whol lives on the otuskirts of town, with strange powers but wise in herb lore and heretical magic.  :)  A Heal Slut Witch would probably deliver healings pells with a kiss.  She'd have a cute pet.  She'd be very weak in physical combat, but have a good aray of spells and powers.  :) 

[Naiad]

This sounds like a really fun idea! I'd like to think that I'm fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Pathfinder, so if that ends up being the system of choice here I would be quite interested in giving it a try, although I should probably mention that I've never done a group game online like this so I might need a bit of guidance from time to time. I always tended to play divine spellcasters myself, so this sounds like a fun excuse to try something new and different. Keenly interested, in other words.

[Annisthyrienne]

I'm an experienced gamer, but not with any of the systems listed here.  I usually play a healer, and in fact my user name is the name of my favorite healer character in a game system called Arcanum set in the Atlantis era fantasy world.  But my interest in this would be to read along when you guys get the thread going.  I love a good story!  I hope you will provide a link to your thread here when it gets going.

[Chajesdad]

     For the conversations being held, it seems that we are settling into a Pathfinder game, and I am versed, if not well versed with the given system. My story is a homebrew, that allows for the Faerunian pantheon of gods and prestige classes.

     The story goes something like this. The princess of the small country has improper womanly habits, these are for you to decide, but probably needs to include some questionable chastity or virtuous characteristic. A tainted reputation and a disapproving father. The princess, after a threat of being locked in the tower, makes a plan to run away, a plan her father hears of and makes his own plan. Perhaps if she knows the harsher side of the world she may become less pliable, stronger, and more capable of protecting herself. If nothing else, she would serve the nation as a princess should. True that would normally come through marriage and diplomacy, though service she would.

     The party, a loyal but freelance group of adventurers with a rough-and-tumble style, hired to accept and show the princess the harsher side of adventuring. Perhaps she would be willing to come back to the military, the cloister, or diplomatic circles as a chatelaine, or governess for her brothers children. The party is given a task, something that would probably be suited for a group less accomplished, but the king wants to send an overwhelming response. The party will find more than they thought...

     The princess, led to the party by suggestion of her hand-maiden, found they needed the priestly assistance she was capable of providing, the leader, a person who offered an appraising look up and down their future healslut accepted after she proved her abilities and how much she needs the position. Possibly by sleeping with her and having her heal her hymen, definitely something degrading. From here we should have the introductions to the party at an opening camp outside of town...

[Reno]

Just chiming in with a grouchy old curmudgeon's strong 3.5/PF preference over later editions, with a slight bias toward PF!

(And yes, like a good grouchy old curmudgeon should be, I'm still salty about losing my THAC0.)

[eBadger]

Hmm.  Possibly a paladin of a sex cult, eager to encourage their new recruit to worship the goddess of prostitutes.  Or maybe a royal guard sent along to keep a slight eye on things, but who in fact thinks the princess needs a serious lesson in humility and is glad to get a chance to settle a few grudges at his treatment. 

[snowdrop]

The story goes something like this. The princess of the small country has improper womanly habits, these are for you to decide, but probably needs to include some questionable chastity or virtuous characteristic. A tainted reputation and a disapproving father. The princess, after a threat of being locked in the tower, makes a plan to run away, a plan her father hears of and makes his own plan. Perhaps if she knows the harsher side of the world she may become less pliable, stronger, and more capable of protecting herself. If nothing else, she would serve the nation as a princess should. True that would normally come through marriage and diplomacy, though service she would.

So, the princess thinks she's running away from her father and her royal responsibilities, while in reality the king has arranged for the party to take her in, and given them specific instructions to not go easy on her (quite the contrary, in fact) and make sure she realizes how tough the life of an adventurer can be? And while she thinks no one knows who she is, everyone in the party is well aware of her identity and what they're supposed to put her through? That sounds quite twisted, I like it :-)

I was looking at the class options Muse suggested, and I was actually quite intrigued by the Oracle class. If I understood correctly (which I very well might not have, it's all a lot to take in D:), I should know all the basic Cure spells by default; and if I went Life mystery, I could get all kinds of other healing tools; and then, if I took Merciful as the Oracle's Curse, I'd also get the Paladin Lay on Hands ability? :o Am I wrong in thinking that all would make me a pretty badass healer?

The Curse is actually pretty much what draws me to the class: the downside of the curse is that she's compelled to heal anyone who asks for her help, regardless of the situation -- that would be really fun to roleplay and fitting to the theme in general; and it would help explain why she keeps helping and healing the party no matter how they treat her. The downside would also be very fitting in action -- if someone tells her "heal me, slut!", she's compelled to drop everything and do that... instead of, say, running for cover herself!

Maybe her oracle background and Merciful curse could be the reason why her father looks down on her: her powers are strange and no one in the kingdom can really explain them, and her wanting to help everyone everywhere just makes her act way too "un-noblewoman-like"? So her father wants her to learn how rough life outside the castle can be like, what kinds of monsters people can be, and how maybe not everyone is maybe worth helping?

I'd also love the excuse to boost her Charisma as high as possible at the cost of everything else, because, you know :-) Maybe due to that she's renowned for her beauty (as well as her unladylike behavior), which maybe acts as an extra incentive for some of the party members to want to see and abuse her in any way they can~

That all said, I don't really know anything about the system or the class, so I'm not sure if any of that makes sense :-) Would it be better to just make her a cleric, which I guess would definitely be the straightforward option?

[Muse]

  It sounds to me like you have a very strong grasp on the class.  :) 

[Muse]

Just chiming in with a grouchy old curmudgeon's strong 3.5/PF preference over later editions, with a slight bias toward PF!

(And yes, like a good grouchy old curmudgeon should be, I'm still salty about losing my THAC0.)

*laughs*  you and I are going to get along great, Reno. 

[eBadger]

A couple concepts so far.  Let me know if you have any preference/feedback, Chaj and snow.

   

Maki the Blue
Aasimar Paladin

"The holy ritual of prostitution is a sacrament to The Lady!  It is an ancient art of spiritual healing and physical pleasure for alms.  I realize cultures in this region are somewhat...backward...but surely it's obvious how all benefit?  ...Come along, and stop pulling at your leash or I'll have to spank you again.  Regardless of your own inhibitions, we must all be selfless in this expedition; your own contributions to the group's success have been...humble.  This is a way to prove yourself, and every shilling we earn helps to save the people of Greenleaf.  ...Of course I know you're a princess, I'll charge suitably.  Here we are, the Smoldering Widow; this tavern's quite popular with the royal guard.  Won't it be nice to see some friends from the palace?  Stop all that noise, you sound undignified around the gag."

The Blue Lotus House is shrouded in myth and mystery, a cult that mix religion and sex in a way few understand.  Most mistake the Blue Lotus for simple, if very esteemed, courtesans.  However, their faith is deep and true.  A gathering of talented oracles, the seers use the spiritual force of sex rituals to create miracles and to touch upon the mysteries of the unknown.  The act of prostitution is considered divine and pure, both a duty and a privilege for the clergy to serve their secret goddess, spread the joy and tranquility of physical release, and provide prosperity for the House.  None are exempt from that call, but while some of the Blue show greater skill harnessing the spiritual others take the role of protectors and escorts.  From time to time, they are even knights errant, preventing foreseen disaster or righting injustice.  Few realize it, but these harem paladins are no less skilled than their more traditional brethren. 

Like most of the Blue, Maki was birthed by the goddess herself, sown by the seed of a unknown client.  The Blue served as her family and consoled her when the visions that came so easily to her sisters eluded her.  She quickly learned to love the path of protector, however, and her faith grew deeper rather than broke.  Her future with the House seemed certain and secure until the Solstice Orgy.  Every oracle touched upon the same vision: that Maki would have to undertake a journey to prevent some unknown catastrophe.  With a stalwart mien and the fondest of farewells from her sisters, she set upon a course that has led her to join a small party of adventurers tasked with tutoring a royal heir. 

   

Sir Valor Edmorten
Human Magus

"Keep up, or I won't be so nice next time."

The youngest son of a minor lord on the edges of the kingdom, Valor thought joining the Iron Guard would lead to honor and wealth.  Instead, his loyalty and service have been rewarded with condescension, his comrades' lives sacrificed pointlessly.  So when he was tasked with protecting the spoiled princess on an expedition meant to teach her a lesson, he took the latter part to heart.  He would enjoy taking out every petty indignity on the slut...and perhaps, once she's broken, he can really take advantage of the situation.  King Valor the First has a certain ring to it....

[snowdrop]

They both look lovely, and devious in their own ways! :D

From my part, I love how Maki is basically dead set on publicly humiliating the princess (which I love), and the "flavor text" was really hot!...but at the same time, someone like Valor who has a personal grudge against the royal family and really wants to take his frustrations out on the princess sounds awesome too, and might be easier to play in more situations?

No real preference either way, from me anyway, they both sound great! Whichever one feels more like someone you'd like to play, I suppose?

I've been trying to work on a more detailed concept for the princess, as well; I'm liking this picture for her looks, for now anyway:

[Kathyan]

This reminds me of my masochistic paladin character I've tried to run a few times with little success given how often games fall apart but since the point of this is having a healbot it might not be the best choice, I'm still interested though. I'll be thinking on a concept soon.

[Chajesdad]

     Maki rings truest to the story concept I have, though both are solid concepts and I do agree that Valor may have more play options. In the end, both are workable characters. Maki just runs to my flare of destiny and prophecy in a high magic world. I am going to leave it in your hands, either will work. If you cannot decide flip a coin and as the coin flips you will know which one you are hoping to play. The actual result of the coin flip rarely matters.

     Concepts should be finalized over the next week, I think starting the game would be slow through the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. That thought incurred, we could get through the intros and meet and greet portion of the game. I can easily see running with snowdrop and four players who are dedicated and willing to keep to a moving schedule. Think upon your time availability, schedules and social needs and see if three posts a week in character is within your wheelhouse, as such I will be taking character concepts and narrowing the field as I can. I am not saying I won't have six players, I am saying that I don't want a heavy crew crush the story because of scheduling conflicts across the board. I am not trying to kill the enthusiasm, this is a great concept, but I am not able to run a proper Pathfinder game with a crew this heavy.

Snowdrop
eBadger
Kathyan
Reno
Guancyto
Naiad
Muse
TFCommando
Ziether

Player level will be 7, with our healslut coming in at a high two, specifically 2700 exp.

[Reno]

Chaj: Would a Tiefling be acceptable for a character race, or should I stick with the basic races? Same question re: "Unchained" classes?

[Chajesdad]

     The tiefling would work and the drow, if of the Followers of Eilistrae would work but when we get down to the subterranean drow, in an overworld campaign... I see a severe problem with a king offering his daughter up to someone with connections that would make it virtually impossible for him to retrieve her. See my issue? This is supposed to be a lesson in the horrors of the world, not an execution or banishment.

[Chajesdad]

      Please remember, you are all part of a group that has proven its loyalty to the crown.

[Reno]

Yeah, I wasn't thinking anything fancy or party-breaking like that. This was the concept I had in mind:



"Click"
Tiefling Rogue

Christened "Click" in his youth, for the sound that would emanate all too frequently from his sleeping hollow while he fiddled and practiced with locks and similar devices, there are few, if any, among the living that know his true name. When asked,  he claims not to remember it himself, and when pressed, he becomes evasive, falling back on snark or darkly humorous anecdotes ("Well, I remember my mother calling me 'You Worthless Horned-Faced Freak' a lot, but 'Click' rolls more easily off the tongue," e.g.).

Cynical from a young age(unsurprisingly, considering his heritage and the common reaction to it), and now so jaded that he is, perhaps, the only thief who would not be considered out of place in a Wuxian Imperial Museum, Click holds no great love for King nor Crown, in spite of his well-established history service to both. Sharp-eyed and quick-witted, he observed early on that a sufficiently influential patron would excuse a multitude of sins, and who was more influential than the Monarchy? Instead of dancing at the rope for plying his trade, he was well-rewarded for it, instead; and should one of his more personal "enterprises" capture the attention of the local law, it was a heavy name to be dropped.  He was quite content with the arrangement, and took great care not to strain it beyond its breaking point. It also took him away from "civilization" for stretches of time, which was something he needed more than he would admit, even to himself. The thrill, risk, and danger of the wilds and the forgotten places made him feel alive when the daily drudgery and inanity of "civilization" would choke him.

He is usually seen wearing a strip of red cloth tied around his head, ostensibly to keep his shaggy hair out of his eyes; it also covers the two tiny, unimpressive horns that sprout from his forehead; it's become more a matter of habit or personal tradition than of subterfuge, as his round, tapered tongue is more than sufficient to betray his tainted bloodline to even a casual observer any time he speaks. Few have even seen the patch of thick, scarred flesh at the base of his spine; his lovers learn quickly not to ask about it.

[eBadger]

Really hot and fits the concept wins it for Maki!  And no worries, she has personality beyond insistent dominatrix  ;)

Any creation guidelines in mind yet, so I can start with the crunchy bits?

[Kathyan]

Really hot and fits the concept wins it for Maki!  And no worries, she has personality beyond insistent dominatrix  ;)

Any creation guidelines in mind yet, so I can start with the crunchy bits?

Well I would certainly enjoy being pushed around by an insistent dominatrix ^^ which would make me think bringing my paladin to the table if yours wasn't one already... though perhaps ::) ..., since we would be a party of 4 people of level 7 depending on the healing of a level 2-3 oracle.

So Chaj would occult characters be allowed, I'm also thinking on building a mesmerist

[eBadger]

Obviously up to chaj, but the most interesting groups I've played have been totally unbalanced. 

And if Maki has to stop in the middle of a battle to heal up, when the princess has ONE JOB, there are going to be some consequences   >:)

[Chajesdad]

     A bit of side healing may not be frowned upon, and a good reason for punishment when she falls behind the curve. Perhaps a few wands provided to the party, a full wand (50 charges) Cure Light Wounds, another 34 charges of Cure Moderate Wounds. Remember, initially the job they are being sent on is one that they are shall we say, over-qualified. To give them time and lee way to do the things that will teach his daughter what the world is like.

Not familiar with the mesmerist, though reviewing the SRD, I have no issues with the class.

Sorry all, high fantasy point-buy 20 points.

[snowdrop]

And if Maki has to stop in the middle of a battle to heal up, when the princess has ONE JOB, there are going to be some consequences   >:)

That's kinda exactly what I'm hoping for ;)

It's a big reason why I suggested in the first place that my character would be significantly lower level -- I'd hate as a player to have to pretend to do badly, and I'm definitely going to try my very best to play the best healer I can; but in the case of this story, failing is fun, so the expectations should be unrealistic :D

[Reno]

Sorry all, high fantasy point-buy 20 points.

"Unchained Rogue" seems a bit more "cinematic" than Core Rogue. Is that acceptable?

[eBadger]

That's kinda exactly what I'm hoping for ;)

Heh. Yes, me too!

[Chajesdad]

Unchained rogue approved.

[Doomsday]

     Maki rings truest to the story concept I have, though both are solid concepts and I do agree that Valor may have more play options. In the end, both are workable characters. Maki just runs to my flare of destiny and prophecy in a high magic world. I am going to leave it in your hands, either will work. If you cannot decide flip a coin and as the coin flips you will know which one you are hoping to play. The actual result of the coin flip rarely matters.

     Concepts should be finalized over the next week, I think starting the game would be slow through the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. That thought incurred, we could get through the intros and meet and greet portion of the game. I can easily see running with snowdrop and four players who are dedicated and willing to keep to a moving schedule. Think upon your time availability, schedules and social needs and see if three posts a week in character is within your wheelhouse, as such I will be taking character concepts and narrowing the field as I can. I am not saying I won't have six players, I am saying that I don't want a heavy crew crush the story because of scheduling conflicts across the board. I am not trying to kill the enthusiasm, this is a great concept, but I am not able to run a proper Pathfinder game with a crew this heavy.

Snowdrop
eBadger
Kathyan
Annisthyrienne
Reno
Guancyto
Naiad
Muse
Doomsday
Ziether

Player level will be 7, with our healslut coming in at a high two, specifically 2700 exp.

I'll drop interest considering the surplus of interest and my unfamiliarity with Pathfinder. Have fun y'all!

[TFcommando]

That's kinda exactly what I'm hoping for ;)

It's a big reason why I suggested in the first place that my character would be significantly lower level -- I'd hate as a player to have to pretend to do badly, and I'm definitely going to try my very best to play the best healer I can; but in the case of this story, failing is fun, so the expectations should be unrealistic :D

This game coalesced quickly!  Too full to hop in on (though a haughty princess blaster sorceress who knows the drill could be fun).

One thing of note for the Pathfinder meta game is that healing in combat is not an optimal action.   A cleric is better off casting buff or debut spells and attacking instead of healing, for example. Post combat healing can be handled with a wand of cure light wounds, making a healbot optional.

If the characters are aware of this IC-ly, even a well built, current level healer might not be regarded as a fully useful party member.

Side note for if/when a cleric was used... giving her a collar with her holy symbol attached to it so she wouldn’t lose it even when stripped naked by circumstances.

[eBadger]

I like the collar idea.  Also piercing and tattoo options, depending on what kinks we want to hit. 

[TFcommando]

I like the collar idea.  Also piercing and tattoo options, depending on what kinks we want to hit.

Using nipple piercings to hold ring slot items could be fun.  "This way you won't lose these... they're expensive!"  Collars for the cloak slot!  And magic tattoos are a level 5 item, so they'd be available!

I'll go ahead and make a pitch!

Scylla Menador (not her real name)

A noble daughter of (the city)(or even a bastard daughter of the king or queen), she had a powerful (elemental or infernal) bloodline which was quite inconvenient for the nobility of the city... having a powerful noble dallying with an inhuman creature like that would be quite the scandal, and she'd be living proof it happened!  To avoid that for the good of the city, Scylla is on the road as an adventurer pretty much all of the time, doing her bit for the kingdom and following her interests in history, arcane lore and sex.   She's picked up a taste for freedom that most noblewomen couldn't even dream of and has given free rein to a lot of her baser urges.  The idea of going back for good isn't as appealing as it used to be.  And now here's this cute little thing who COULD have everything she had to give up, practically going on vacation!  She'll keep her safe, but teach her some lessons too, and dirty up that purity.  It won't do her any good in the long run anyway.

So, sorceress, either a primal fire elemental bloodline (for blasting) or perhaps Infernal (for Charm), dressing (or not dressing) in the typical "evil sorceress" way.  Chaotic Good, as she's been ill served by lawfulness.

A side note... sorcerers have access to the Infernal Healing spell.  When used, "the target detects as an evil creature for the duration of the spell and can sense the evil of the magic, though this has no long-term effect on the target’s alignment."  How would the princess feel if she was forbidden to heal herself and the others used methods like that on her? :)

[Naiad]

Got a quick question for you, Chaj: what kind of environments do you envision this adventure taking us? I've got a rough concept formulating in my mind, and I'm wistfully eying the Hunter class and the potential for a roc animal companion. Think it might be interesting, both for mechanical and thematic reasons, but possibly less than practical, if we're, say, going to be adventuring and/or investigating in cities or caves very often. Do you have any thoughts or suggestions on the matter?

[Chajesdad]

Closing recruitment at this time. Please build a character concept and PM me with it, even if you have posted one here.

    At this time the party has been made aware of a need to travel to pastoral farmland to deal with widespread raiding on their borderland farms. Dense forests a swamp and low mountains are the nearby topography and kobolds and goblins have made the majority of the raids. The thing that warrants this group is that exceptional strategy seems to be used in flushing out the guard and avoiding capture during raids, even setting traps for the guard.

     There is the possibility that there will be diving into the lairs of such creatures, though there will also be overland travel and many outdoors activity and encounters.

[AndyZ]

I'm not much for Pathfinder, but I wanted to offer a suggestion:

If you're looking for one healer to keep the entire group healed, having that healer at a very low level isn't going to cut it for an actual game.  What might work, though, is having the healer at the same level as everyone but not allowing the full set of powers that a healer might normally have.

For example, CoDZilla was mentioned, meaning how clerics and druids generally get insanely powerful in 3.5.  If the healer can't cast anything but healing spells, though, you don't have to worry about that issue as much.

I would therefore suggest using normal stats but not allowing the princess access to weapons, armor, spells that don't directly offer healing or make other PCs more powerful, magic items beyond those that would help in healing, or anything like that.

Just an idea for you ^_^

[snowdrop]

Here's the concept I have for the princess right now, maybe it'll spark some inspiration in someone else~

Now off to trying to crunch through the rest of the actual character creation process -- Pathfinder sure looks intimidating compared to 5e, I have to say! :D D:

   

Princess Livia di Elandor
Human Oracle

Ability scores

Strength: 8
Dexterity: 14
Constitution: 12
Intelligence: 10
Wisdom: 8
Charisma: 20

Being the youngest child and only daughter of King Lucas di Elandor, Livia had always been seen to have an easy life in front of her. Her three older brothers ensured she would be nowhere near becoming heir to the crown, and strong and charismatic as they all were, the younger brothers had all the important military and political offices earmarked for them. All Princess Livia was expected to do was look pretty, act graceful, and be the perfect example of how the kingdom had both strong men and beautiful women.

As far as looking pretty is concerned, she definitely grew up to meet the expectations. The cute little princess grew up to be a stunning teenager, her small and petite frame supporting an ample bosom and round butt, her long, thick auburn locks being the envy of all women in the kingdom, and her disarming smile charming everyone she met at first sight.

But it was the "acting gracefully" part where Livia had quite a bit of trouble. She was always a bit of a naive and wild child. Even as a kid, she much preferred running in the woods to sitting in the palace, and got herself into all kinds of trouble on a daily basis. She loved the outdoors with all its wildlife, trees and flowers; she loved it much too much for her father's liking. He'd much prefer for her to stay indoors, study the arts and music, and prepare herself to one day be the perfect political bride.

If that wasn't enough, when Livia reached puberty, she realized she could see more in the animals and plants as she thought possible. She saw the lifeforce in every living thing around her. She could see when things were hurt in a way no one else seemed to be able to. And she realized she had the power to make them better, make them not hurt anymore.

Livia felt an extremely strong compulsion to help everyone and everything around her. She wasn't just running around in the woods for her own enjoyment -- she was running around in the woods, nursing wounded animals and sick people. And absolutely enraging her father, who was both angry at the reputation she was building and worried about her safety. Livia spent more time grounded in the palace than not, and yet she always found a way to run out and adventure once again.

Then came the last drop for King Lucas. Now a rebellious eighteen-year-old, Livia was dead set on becoming an real adventurer, a travelling healer, going around and helping people in need. Disguised as a commoner, she found a band of ragtag vigilantes who wanted to break up a crime ring in town. A battle ensued between the vigilantes and the thugs, which could have ended quite badly, if it wasn't for the King's Guard who happened to come by.

The guards instantly recognized the princess, who was taken to the king. He was furious! Not only was Livia using her strange oracle powers which no cleric in the kingdom could properly explain; not only was she risking her health and reputation getting involved with common thugs; she was most of all risking the King's reputation: if he can't even control his own daughter, how could he control an entire kingdom? King Lucas vowed to keep Livia locked up in the palace indefinitely, until she could eventually be married and no longer be his problem.

The rebellious teenager would not take it. She had already made up her mind; she wanted to be an adventurer. She would run away, now. Livia confided in her closest friend and ally in the palace, her handmaiden, and begged her to find a way out of the palace.

Unfortunately for Livia, as loyal as her handmaiden was to her, she was even more loyal to the king and the crown. She told the king of Livia's plan right away... allowing him to device a plan of his own.

[Muse]

There are archetypes that emphases healing.

Edit:  Oh, I see.  you're doing an oracle.  Sorry.  :)  I posted that from my phone while waiting for a plane. 

[Chulanowa]

Still any room for a latecomer?

[Chajesdad]

Sorry Chulanowa, we have closed recruitment and are considering trimming back a bit.

[Chajesdad]

It was made clear that we were unaware of Background Skills and such, so adding this for clarity, for they apply.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/background-skills/

[Reno]

It was made clear that we were unaware of Background Skills and such, so adding this for clarity, for they apply.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/background-skills/

Sweet. Any of the other "Optional Rule systems" in place?

[Chajesdad]

Traits and Drawbacks, though I say if you use traits, you must match one for one with drawbacks after the first. And no more than three traits.

[Reno]

Thanks!

[Chajesdad]

     I have set the OOC for the game, and set the character creation rules as well as several SRD links for reference.

https://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=278585.0

[TFcommando]

Did I get in under the wire to apply?  Not sure if I made it or not.

[Chajesdad]

Yes commando, you are inside the selection queue. Please submit your concept for a character for approval and discussion.

[HannibalBarca]

This sounds like a hilarious and sexy idea.  Unfortunately, I started playing AD&D in 1979, and played 1st Edition 90% of the time.  5% was the original D&D even before AD&D, and the other 5% was a touch of 2E and 3E.  My primary experience with 3E was Neverwinter Nights on my PC.  Never played Pathfinder.  Ah well, you're full as it is :P

[Muse]

Story's allready full anwyay, Hannibal. 

But I had to ask, would you ever be comfortable in a second edition game? :)  (Or even runnign one?  *Puppy dog eyes* )

[HannibalBarca]

Honestly, I doubt it.  I vastly prefer freeform to system RPs.  Years and years ago I ran a PbEM 1st Edition campaign, with some touches of 2nd Edition thrown in, but that was on Yahoo Groups...but I've never GMed an RP on Elliquiy, nor have I ever run a 2nd Edition game even on tabletop :/  The game system itself was always second to the storytelling, even when I was a teen and played tabletop exclusively.  I wouldn't be adverse to 3.5 or Pathfinder--as long as I was able to learn what I needed and picked up the rest along the way.

[Muse]

  Meh.  I'll resist the urge to expalin how easily freeform gets in the way of good storytelling.  :P 

  Anyways, this is a good place.  Have fun, and hope to game with you someday.  :)

[RobyntheWitch]

I am sad I am late to this, I am very big with PF and have ALL of the hardcovers, the things you miss. Still, I have played literally every lvl 20 class in the game of it, and some wonderful archtypes. If there is ever an opening, I would not mind being thought of, I have not had a game in so long...

[Zaer Darkwail]

I am sad I am late to this, I am very big with PF and have ALL of the hardcovers, the things you miss. Still, I have played literally every lvl 20 class in the game of it, and some wonderful archtypes. If there is ever an opening, I would not mind being thought of, I have not had a game in so long...

Well, keep eye on here and group game requesting GM's advertisements :). I and Muse often take leaps into DnD/Pathfinder games.

[Callie Del Noire]

Well, keep eye on here and group game requesting GM's advertisements :). I and Muse often take leaps into DnD/Pathfinder games.

Still have the occasional hunger for characters like my old Everton pc in the RPoL game you ran once upon a time

[Cythieus]

Did this ever get made? It looks like it got turned into a PF game.

[Kathyan]

It did, there is a link to the OOC a few posts up, but we lost the player who was playing the healslut.